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iammo:




Sanusi wasnt even the heir to the throne of the former Emir of Kano, the Emir had several Sons, but since Jonathan was about to jail him , the Emirate saved his asz by making him a king even when his father was just a brother to the king and he had no legitemate claim to the throne.

Getting to the throne Sanusi forgot that his days at CBN were over and gone for good, instead he started diping his hands into the Emirates treasury buying all kind of Rolls Royce showing off on Instagram. Till the state house of assembly lunched the first investigation into his reckless spending

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Don't talk about what you don't understand... He was an heir to the throne!

No Madam, it is because you converted depositors 's funds to personal use by giving yourself and family loans that you then declare as bad loans.
Let's no forget the issues... Madam, you are a thief and have destroyed many lives by depriving them of their life savings.

You now can talk because he seems to in trouble but he is still emir and he was right about your crimes. Thank you

LuciferAkbar:
More like 45th birthday.

But just negodu the cheap beer bottles on the tables. I was expecting expensive spirits.
Is he not happy to be back to 32 years old?

Not many people have that privilege.
pocohantas would kill to return to 32.

What an ingrate!




*spits

Lucifer is a spitting cobra!
He spits on everything....

iammo:
Like i said some of you roaming immbecilee should be locked up permanently in the joke section or the Ashewo Beer parlour Joint thread, cos you can never understand political power play as it is too complex for you meme and picture throwing, like and share hungry retaaarded Dunce... no one got time to.connect the dots for a dolt

leave our favorite section out of your quarrel ooo abeg
we no dey like trouble for that side abeg..

etrange:
Niceone @OP

But all these guys saying the guy didn't cheat, at what point would you consider it cheating? Until the d enters the v? How would you feel if you saw your babe kissing another guy even if it's for a millisecond? OP made it clear he played along for a while before coming back to his senses so what's all this with it being sudden? He kissed another woman! His wife wouldn't like it; he wouldn't want his wife to do it with another man and as such, it's cheating and we all know these that is why we (including myself)believe it is better the story is kept far away from wify. Some even compare him with men who would have falling flat for it; that others do worse does not make his own less cheating. Obviously, some of don't know that s4x may or may not involve an intercourse.

Having said that, Kudos to OP for not going all the way with the lady. I believe next time, you won't even create room for such to happen cause you're smarter now. And like I said, you're not obliged to share this with wify. You know her better and you know how she'd handled it.

Great one.

It is cheating if you planned or initiated contact, my brother.
Using the same logic, can we say a woman raped against her wish is also cheating?
If someone touches a girls Bobby without her consent, is it still cheating?
If I want to shock you, you can have sex without necessarily cheating!!!
He did not cheat since there was no intention on his part... Rather, he was "cheated"... If it makes sense...

Well, Amaechi may just be insane so I won't be angry!!!

OP, don't listen to those sanctimonious children telling you to confess to your wife. It's an error and you managed the situation well. If you had used force to resist, the woman could say you tried to rape her and no one will believe you. Then you will be condemned as a rapist with all the consequences and your name will be soiled for life.

It's not everything you talk about, it is called COMMON SENSE.
To successfully manage a relationship, it is necessary to understand STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION... when to talk and when not to; When to tell the truth and when to say only what is necessary... Lying is also part of it oooo.
If you like tell your wife that she looks ugly with the new makeup and sleeping in the parlour shall be your portion
In other words, you no go see Toto chop for a long time.. and you fit come dey chop public toilet aka Ashawo

Every wise married man knows what I told you... Wife no be girlfriend ooo, especially if children are involved!!!

Blackgurl247:
Everything sex sex sex have been saying it men go plenty for hell fire than women

Hell fire landlady & commandant has spoken!
Weydon, Ma

Champella:
Ah! Senior man, how I take chance you na? Who I be to come struggle woman with you? Sorry, no vex abeg. You can have her.

You fit even send me to come dey wash your cars for one week as punishment.

Haha ha ha...
You sabi weaken person ehn.
Who dash me senior man na?
You na my person every.
Your response made me laugh hard.
It's like you left me to go so that the sweety go make me do frog jump...

Let me kuku call your number na... You just became my friend!!!

Champella:
Hi Joy,

Can we talk privately on WhatsApp? My number is on my signature or you leave yours on your signature then I contact you.

Why you come chance me na?

joyberry:
Nairalanders as usual showing their myopic reasonings,i cant marry a military woman cos of promiscuity, am not going to deny the fact that we get involved with our colleagues and superiors alot.When u are always confined to a particular space,work and live in the base,of course u become attracted to people u see everyday. We tend to marry ourselves aot too cos we understand the dos and donts of the job,drills,fire alarms and all.
About the promiscuity angle,every woman has a tendency to be promiscuous, its all about opportunity,Including the civilian ladies sef,Having performed duties at yhe main gate alot and ushered in a lot of military events, i hv seen the number of ladies who troop into the base on daily basis to hook up with senior officers.Corpers in the base hv turned to our officers sexmates and cleaners all in the hope of getting a job or becoming NAFOWA.Most of my civilian girlfriends hv begged me to hook them up with senior officers.
Am not slandering civilians here,am just trying to get a message passed accross the promiscuity angle isnt limited to military personnels alone.Most of those ypur civilian girlfriends will leave u and run away if a very senior officer ask her out, hv seen a case where a civilian female staff walked out on her boyfriend and followed a one star general for a rendezvous.
Lastly no one is making it a must to date military women, if u like one fone if u don't fancy them fine too.We are flesh and blood like civilians, nothing different about our bodies. Shalom

Reasonable response here...
Oya, I like you and I will send a private message if you are single.

Chubhie:
I also know her back then when she dabbled into illuminate when Facebook was new in town. My preconceived notions about her not withstanding, We must find a healthy way to synthesize foresight and hindsight in other to extract knowledge and understanding.

Are you saying she's broke after spending a million dollars on her bumbum? A shrewd business move?

Hanty, you can lie... Toto does not have one million dollars... Do you know how much you are talking about?

GraGra247:
She sold the SUV and yes it was in the press. She's broke!!

Testesterone infested men that can pay the price of actresses like Tonto are few and they have a wide selection of millions of fresh blood young ladies on Instagram and other African countries they can easily fly in.

Testesterone infested men also know that Tonto is highly toxic and is a loose cannon that can blackmail them in public with their secret relationship without shame.

Et tu?

Israeljones:
This one no just get work...every thread u dey answer present..

And you have been tracking him like a monitoring spirit and also answering present on his matter.
Come to think of it, it means you have been to Every single thread he has been to...
Oga you have a real profitable and valuable job called Unemployment. BMC is recruiting!!

Men are not made of just dick and sex na, haba!
It's not all men that will want to cheat not even for the flimsy reason of pants.
Chai, men don suffer... Even he-goat get small respect for prick na.. Every thing na cheat, sex, one-minute man, broke man etc...
A woman will still call you a one-minute man when she does not know what it takes to get and keep an erection. They can't get anything up but they still complain over everything. It's just a hole that most times they can't even get to be wet. The thing go come turn to abrasive but men no dey complain...
We still love our women sha...

Uyi168:
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Why always spit??

It is hatred and disdain for anything God

TVSA:
I've seen this article before, or am I dreaming?

You are right, I have posted the article before now but it is also common knowledge. It's called the Five ways of Aquinas.... Logical arguments put forward by Thomas Aquinas to prove the existence existence of God . It is a good basis to start debate on the existence of God and a good point to raise with people that think the belief in religion and existence of God is illogical.

Lucifersticlala:
You have massively contradicted yourself.



1. You said nothing can move itself so how did God move itself?

2. If nothing existed prior to itself, how did God come to existence?

3. This is similar to No. 2. It means there must be a time God did not exist.
You go further by applying a "special" attribute to God as being "a necessary catalyst for the existence of other beings". This contradicts your first & second arguments because to be a causative factor for other beings, God must first move itself & then exist.

4. This is wrong. God is not the threshold nor the maximum measure of perfection. If you say God at its maximum degree represents say, a PhD holder with a clean record & a good heart, it must also mean that God represents a mass murderer & rapist at its lower degree.

The yardstick for perfection is not God rather it is law & order which happens to be man made. For example, if the laws of a certain land legalize & glorify the killing of albinos then to be perfect in that environment, one has to become an albino killer.

5. Wrong again.

Most natural things HAVE KNOWLEDGE & God does not direct the intelligence of beings rather intelligence is derived / learnt & continuously nurtured.

Another point of note is that the words "intelligence" & "God" do not go together in the same sentence.

Thank you.




*spits

I think you just decided to argue at the most shallow level of Contemplation.
By definition, God is the uncreated creator, perfect in power and wisdom; possessing attributes of omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence having eternal existence.
As a human mortal, I don't arrogate to myself the knowledge to know and understand all things including God Himself. So for the theist, our knowledge of God is based on what is revealed in nature and in the holy inspired verifiable scriptural records.
So looking at the definition and explanations of the nature of God across many belief systems, I wonder where you find your contradiction because my definition and subsequent proofs of the existence of God are certainly consistent.
You cannot find a logical contradiction in my position apart from the hasty conclusion of error that you reached without proof and may be without truly considering the substance of my argument.
To your points:
1. You did not provide a proof of error in my understanding of nature of God against the proofs provided. By my understanding, God is the unmovable mover and that holds true because there must be a first cause to start any process- I believe we can agree on this simple logical assertion. For that first cause to truly be the first cause, it must be outside of the system it initiates otherwise then it is simply part of the system and not the first cause. To expatiate, if we take the so called Big Bang, whatever may have caused it must have been outside it. If for the sake of argument we say it's some firm of implosion, one can then ask, what imploded? and what is the origin of that which imploded? The logical answer of these questions must point to something outside of the big bang process. I claim it is a higher intelligence to cause the bang process itself. I claim it is a God.
Therefore the creator of the universe must then have been outside the universe before creating it. So I am saying that God is not part of the universe He created and so He can be the first cause in the context in the context of our debate.

2. If you are implying that things have existed eternally, then you are implicitly burdened with the task to provide the beginning of eternity because eternity is just a measure to describe time. My first points about the omniscience of
God is instructive because as far as infinite knowledge is concerned, I am humble enough to attribute it only to the divine nature of God. I believe that the human mortal does not yet understand half of the nature around us and I am content to believe that God will reveal more about Himself in an eternity, which is outside of measurable time as we know it. I know you should by now know that I am not intellectually lazy.

3. Again, unless you are able to rationally dispute the logical assertion of things not being able to move themselves by themselves without an external force, then all I see you doing is disagreeing with me not disputing my logic. I am arguing that for things to move there must be an external source of energy for the movement, I am making a claim that it is a supreme being that understand to be God.
I don't see you disputing my claim with any examples but just claiming that God as I define Him cannot be. So what is the unmovable force in your own view? And what scientific, logical or philosophical logic can you use to prove the existence of such a higher power? Because I have successful put forward a logical scientific argument about the existence of a first cause.

4. I don't shy away from the fact that evil exists but the explanation of the existence of evil is in the religious philosophy of the fallen nature of man enabled yet again by the philosophy of free will and ultimate accountability/ judgement.
As far as I know about morality of good and evil, there cannot be a logical basis to say there is such a thing as moral evil unless there is such a thing as moral good. There cannot be a moral good unless there is a moral law to determine what is good and there cannot be a moral law unless there is a giver of such a law who in the least must be moral. Such a moral being must also be able to allow the possibility of choice or freewill if he is to be a moral umpire. Otherwise he will end up being an immoral dictator. Now God is the perfection of all things good and it is consistent with moral goodness to allow dissent on the basis of choice and freewill. So the fact that evil exists in a universe governed by a perfect moral God does not negate His perfection and supreme goodness instead it emphasizes His morality hence Hence perfect goodness. For example,
A moral leader may not condone crime but to be moral he must allow his subjects the rights to make choices while specifying the consequences of their choices. Here you will also agree that the existence of crime does not in any way take away from the moral goodness of such a leader that allows people to make a freewilled choice to do good or evil.

5. Many natural things like rocks, sun, moon, rain, trees etc do not posses natural intelligence as we know it but the do conform to a an intelligent pattern that if distorted could lead to the destruction of humanity as we know it. My point here is that for unintelligent entities to exhibit intelligent behavior there must be an external intelligence exerting some control on them. For example, your car system exhibits coordinated intelligent behavior between the parts but you know that if itself, it is incapable of such intelligent interaction without the superior intelligence of its maker. Further more, if you are walking in an inhabited desert and you find a working clock, because you know the intricate processes that enable a clock to tell time accurately, you cannot logically think that the clock made itself or had no maker or a designer that is not the clock itself. The processes that govern the operations of the universe are as far as we can tell the most complex and all of human history has been about trying to understand it and the laws that govern its operations. Could you objectively, say that such a perfectly coordinated system does not have atleast, a superior intelligence to design it or operate it.
Of course some intelligence is derived but there must at least be a basis, a foundation, or a source from which such intelligence is derived. My claim is that God is the source of such intelligence, what is your own source? NOTHING?
God is the perfect intelligence, so it is a mute point to begin arguing His intelligence but we can argue mine.
My claim is that such a super intelligence is a God who is superior and definitely powerful enough to conceive, design and operate the universe without being part of it and who is not subject to the laws of its operations because He actually caused it to be. As for His origin and source, I am willing to admit that I don't know for now and I trust His revelation to clarify it in the hereafter.
Unless you are able to furnish me with a logically consistent answer to the same questions you ask, then I am willing to continue the search and understanding of the nature of God on the basis of the logically coherent information available in scientific thought and theological revelation.

*** spits?? I don't debate you out of disdain for your view point or belief so I don't find your argument irritating, it's just different from mine.if you can logical discuss your points without hasty assumption of error then we could even find a point of convergence.
Notice that I never say you are wrong because that is a conclusion to be reached at the end not at the beginning.
By the way you provide a useful opportunity to interact at a deep intellectual level.

I am waiting for your response

Lucifersticlala:
You have massively contradicted yourself.

I am waiting for proof and am open to learning

St. Thomas Aquinas:
The Existence of God can be prove[b][/b]d in five ways.
Argument Analysis of the Five Ways © 2016 Theodore Gracyk

The First Way: Argument from Motion
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Our senses prove that some things are in motion.
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Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.
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Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.
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Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).
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Therefore nothing can move itself.
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Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.
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The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.
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Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.
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The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes

We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world.
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Nothing exists prior to itself.
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Therefore nothing [in the world of things we perceive] is the efficient cause of itself.
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If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results (the effect).
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Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists.
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If the series of efficient causes extends ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now.
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That is plainly false (i.e., there are things existing now that came about through efficient causes).
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Therefore efficient causes do not extend ad infinitum into the past.
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Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument)

We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., contingent beings.
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Assume that every being is a contingent being.
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For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist.
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Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist.
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Therefore there could have been a time when no things existed.
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Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence.
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Therefore, nothing would be in existence now.
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We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every being is a contingent being.
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Therefore not every being is a contingent being.
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Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as God.

The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being

There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others.
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Predications of degree require reference to the “uttermost” case (e.g., a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest).
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The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus.
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Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

The Fifth Way: Argument from Design

We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance.
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Most natural things lack knowledge.
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But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligence.
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Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.
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Belief in God is not irrational or held by idiots as many an atheist would posit.
The best minds that the world had ever seen believed in the existence of a higher supreme uncaused causer, uncreated creator!
From Newton, Einstein, Pascal to the
the Arab scholars that gave us the blessings of mathematics, astronomy, geometry and architecture among several others...

The Pascalian Wager is a perfectly logical strategy in decision theory.

I hope we can discuss these issues with resorting to disrespect and insults

RuthlessLeader:
This is just dumb. It's like saying Humans can't fly because of free will.

Free will doesn't stop God from doing whatever he likes to humans, so why should it stop him from making sex something only married people can partake in?

I think you arrogate a lot to your self because you are smart. I very well believe you have a right not to believe in God but not the right to act as if you know and understand everything thereby trying to argue the logic of God's omniscience.
You are a mere mortal and there is a sound logic both scientific and philosophical, to belief in God.
Even if you don't believe in God as a Creator and a higher power, you cannot objectively prove God's nonexistence.
A little humility and respect for differing view points will go a long way.
Why insult the idea of what others believe in when you don't believe in anything that can be rationally discussed.
Even if no man has seen God(assuming man is able to know all things with certainty) there is sufficient logical basis for a belief in an all knowing God.

Sorry, I went on this long rant against my better judgement but I feel you are a smart person asking questions, just not asking the right way.

PS:
http://web.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/web%20publishing/aquinasfiveways_argumentanalysis.htm

Swtcherries:
All I can depict from this is that Ned nwoko used her for popularity and fame, before they started dating and got married, nobody knew Ned nwoko, so he marries her for popularity and she married him for money, at the end all I have to say is that Ned nwoko gained in all aspects and he will ruin her career and life. Watch out.

The right people know him please..
Only idle TV watchers did not know him, haba.
Politician now using his acquired item of sexual satisfaction for which yeye fame?
She is nothing and had nothing that is why dating him makes sense to her and her money worshipping likes.
I don't judge her but don't use a baseless argument in her support biko...
Most ladies will gladly do what she did and many are praying for such opportunity.
I also support her because "boyfriend" will still fvck the same pussy free of charge!!!
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celeiyke:
Not true.
Donkey n camel are expensive, far more expensive than a cow. Nobody will ever do that unless from a dead donkey or dead camel

Camels are expensive but donkeys are cheaper than goats in the north... Max, 20k...

But some slay Queens also have boreholes na!!
!

In the final analysis:
Na the same Toto wey every woman carry na him she self carry... with the added advantage that she won't come with a stupid sense of entitlement...
You may argue that it is slack but slay Queen own done slack too...
Stop body/fat/breast shaming her.
Ugly people deserve to be happy and bleeped too...

Happy "Manage" life to the bountiful couple!

Since when I discover say na the same Toto all women carry, I just change focus.
All those olosho that will be over hyping their Toto are on their own ooo...
They will be giving conditions to date as if apart from Toto and breast wey every woman get, dem get something else to offer.
The ones wey get brains no dey over hype their Toto, na the useless ones sabi over do...tcheeew

Something dey inside that coke abeg... Na science student dem pursue!

majamajic:
are u crippled ?

No, you are!
... In your brain!!!

uuzba:
God commands, Thou shall not kill.
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The civil defence guy driving the car, whether deliberate or mistakenly, killed 10 persons. That case can be judged in court. If not, God himself will judge the case and accord appropriate reward. This is after he has lived his life repenting or not repenting.
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The crowed came out and killed the two of them
You are pleased.
But God commands, Thou shall not kill.

You have all broken God's command and would face God's judgement at the end of your lives.

You have the rest of your lives to repent or not repent.
You cannot cheat God.

Son of god!!!

It's so easy to pontificate with messianic moral grandstanding when you are not at the receiving end of a terror act.

When you see people come out on the street celebrating the death of you brother or mother for his religion then your eyes will clear.

You don't live the reality we live with... everyday unreported!

Abeg face where you dey go with your jungle justice/ moral bullshit...

Don't worry, WE ARE GOING TO HELL... that's if we don't already live there.
I am from Gombe.