agaugust: [size=20pt] Boko Haram: Thumbs up for Nigerian military
on March 06, 2015 [/size]
NIGERIAN military has accumulated years of successful war campaigns both within and outside the shores of our country.They prevailed in the Nigerian three years civil war against Biafra from 1966 to 1970, and kept Nigeria one.
They have carried out successful campaigns in peace keeping in Africa and West Africa, including the containment of internal skirmishes in Niger-Delta, Abia and Benue States ensuring that peace returned to these places, until terrorism entered Nigeria and by 2009 and a major issue called Boko Haram.
Our military was not exempted from the embarrassment of combating a group that operated with the combined tactics of guerilla warfare and that of terrorists operating within civilian human shields. Their woes became multiplied with the existence of moles, saboteurs within their fold, while our so called foreign allies did not help matters.
When Boko Haram started attacking the city of Maiduguri and areas around Borno State two years ago, America showed up with their mesmerizing bravado. Their displays on the streets of Maiduguri was encouraging to many of us, but they soon fizzled out for reasons best known to them but not without inflicting damaging blows on the psyche of our military. They heaped all sorts of bad smear on our military, to such an extent that many Nigerians almost bought their lie that we had a disjointed, poorly equipped, uncoordinated, military with low morale.
A few in the army bought the garbage, and their confidence nose dived. Nigeria’s political class and leaders, who were plotting to cash in on the failures and challenges of the military added salt to the injury. Rather than support the government, they went about and shouted loudest, in a strange jubilation, carrying the woes of our situation to same America, who then took their time to deal the hardest blows to the war efforts.
America in response, treated our government with their utmost disrespect. Senator McCain who lost to Obama during their last presidential election made very derogatory comments about the President and Commander -in – Chief of Nigerian Armed Forces, referring to our President as ” some guy called Jonathan”.
Why did our own sons go to a looser , who his people rejected as president, to get a comment? Why did our leaders choose to laugh at the ondoing of their own home government? The answers are not far fetched.Greed and inordinate desire to get power at the centre, blinded them to forget an African proverb that says ‘it is an unwise man who laughs,when a joke is made about his mother’s buttockx’.
Any insult to our President and Commander -in -Chief is an insult to all Nigerians, and it becomes more painfully vexatious when it comes from our so called allies.
America refused to sell the weapons and military hardware we needed, blocked Europe, South Africa, and Israel from selling arms to Nigeria, and turns back to suggest how we should run our elections time table! I do not blame America, I blame the Nigerians who run overseas to mess up their nation in the name of politics. They politicize every thing applicable to life in Nigeria.
Our badly frenzied opposition party have again, recently ran to London, to hold talks about our elections. They run overseas to buy houses, go there for their medicals,train their wards there, because they failed to make Nigeria a good place like the Europeans did for themselves. And shamelessly they now want our presidential candidates to go to Europe to hold debates! How many of those listeners in Europe have PVCs to vote, and of what value to Nigerian economy will such a debate in London confer? Why don’t they learn how their allies play opposition politics?
Senator McCain congratulated Obama when he was defeated in their last presidential election, but when Buhari lost in the last election, he called a press conference where he wept bitterly and thereafter vowed never to contest again. He has just met his rich friends from the South West, and they reminded him to try and go back to pick what he forgot from Dodan Barracks now Aso Rock, thirty tears ago! Now they are shouting Change. You refused to debate in Nigeria and want to debate in London, a good sign of the change indeed.
In any case, in spite of American and European double standards in the support of Nigeria against insurgency, Nigeria has managed to acquire the necessary arms, international cooperation with our neighbours, Chad, Niger and Cameroons, with French support, to change the tide of victory in favour of Nigeria, in the war.
Our gallant military, in well-coordinated efforts regained over 70 percent of Nigerian territories from the insurgents, who still control parts of Borno State, along the mountainous Cameroonian border, areas of Sambisa Forest and parts of southern Yobe state.
In effect, it is a matter of days and the insurgents will be completely flushed out of our land without a “Caliphate”
Boko Haram is likely to resort to terrorism, with suicide bombings, etc, in the months to come. Our Military has continued to protect and preserve the unity of this country and making it stable for prosperity, and defending the country’s territorial integrity from insurgency and external aggression, providing aid to civil authority.
Last week, thousands of people marched in Cameroon’s capital Yaounde protest against Nigeria’s Boko Haram insurgency and support their nation’s army, which is fighting alongside its neighbours in the region to defeat Boko Haram. Organizers said the march was aimed at informing the public, especially in the southern part of Cameroon, about the threat posed by Boko Haram, which has carried out regular cross-border raids in the far north, to tell Cameroonians that they are at war and a part of the country is suffering, and also to discourage Cameroonian youths from joining Boko Haram. I hope Nigeria will learn, leave divisive politics in time of war, and plan protests to encourage peace and youth awareness against Boko Haram, than to protest against the government and our military.
We remain grateful and indebted to our tried, tested and trusted military. We stand by them in prayers any day any time.
Mr. Clement Udegbe, a legal practitioner, wrote from Lagos.
ChukwuCantDie: NO! This map shows northerners are uneducated ...yet Naijas GDP has far surpassed Zululands' GDP, so who is the real slave? If you Zulu kaffirs weren't so uneducated your GDP would have probably be the same as ours or even more because of the infrastructure built by the pink people but sadly for you, Zulus are the worlds dumbest humans, SA will never catch Naija again. If we had stable electricity we would already be a 1trillion dollar economy.
Why does this guy think anyone cares what he has to say?
ChukwuCantDie: The African invented the laser but yet the boer monkeys are trying to take credit for the black mans creation in the usual white way, I commend that African for his creation and I condemn that African for allowing those dirty Europeans to speak on camera as though it was their creation. Typical southie slave mentality. Zulus of 400 years ago may have been big and bad but the Zulus of 2015 are slaves and cowards.
Henry120: Like i stated earlier, the article should be thrown into the garbage section, since neither you nor the article it'self can substantiate the contents in the report.
A delusional report to self-aggrandisement with no substance.
"Its wrong because I say so"
What evidence do you have to substantiate your claims? None? Ok, shut the fvck up then
Henry120: I never expected a knowledgeable answer, thanks for proving me right.
Not only have you shown your government runs an incompetent regime, you have again proven South-Africa is a banana republic.
According to you, for every fairytale south-african mercenary, the minister of the interior calls up your home affairs minister, who then keeps this information of ex-SADF soldiers away from the appropriate authority(Defence minister)?
I mean.......... does this make any sense to you? just say you were joking.
That fat woman comes into the picture because your fairytale mercenaries are EX-SADF. People who fall under her jurisdiction.
What a pathetic country.
Your Defence minister and the entire cabinet of the mickey mouse President should be disbanded.
You run a mediocre government in south-africa.
Why are you so emotional?
Nigeria is the country that is a failed state, not South Africa - so you are literally a banana republic
The Minister of Defense is only responsible for serving members of the SANDF - she has nothing to do with PMC's
Facts are facts, we have to train your soldiers for you.
Henry120: Think........ I expect you to think saengine.
The report claims that Abuja and Pretoria have an understanding on this matter, so there should be no qualms on this matter.
Yet the same paper goes on to say that the minister is un aware of a situation under her jurisdiction which Abuja and Pretoria supposedly have an agreement on. .......... how?
This paper also claims Americans who where kicked out months ago are involved in the so called offensive. Does this report sincerely make any sense to you?
Fact is, you south-africans cooked up a story to feel relevant, and the south-african government runs a banana regime.
Who said the americans were kicked out?
I guess you cant tell the difference between American government support and private contractors?
Also, why would our minister of defence be responsible for dealing with South African PMC's? Its not her jop.
Again, facts are facts - provide a counter source or the source stands.
agaugust: Your recycled mercenary story is a fat lie, it blew it.self into pieces by saying South African, American, French, and British forces are all inside Nigeria....Nigerian army does not train with France and American training was cancelled in 2014 many months ago.
You post garbage because that's the bottom level your thinking faculty is stuck to perpetually. I don't expect intelligent thinking from a South African, your white-master banned you from that level of brainwork 100 years ago and that mental embargo is not yet lifted, it will require series of prayer and fasting deliverance sessions for many decades .
Abuja reportedly got cleared with South-Africa's top government echelon but your "minister of defence" isn't aware.
So, who's your government top echelon, it's pretty clear South-Africa runs a banana republic government.
Or maybe that South Africa is concerned about BLOW-BACK (look up the term) and is trying to publicly distance itself from the activities of its mercenaries.
And when you live in one of the most failed states in the world, you shouldent dare call someone a banana republic
Stop lying dude, you accuse people of lying, yet you patches is the resident liar on Nairaland South Africa has NO Badger production facility.
All current 6 Badgers manufactured in Finland exported to South Africa
The next 31 Badgers will still be made in Finland and exported to Southies
The total contract to the consortium is R 8.3 billion. An initial R 1.048 billion order was placed in 2007 to develop a prototype of each variant, followed by 12 pre-production vehicles. During the manufacturing phase, the first 37 production vehicles will be built by Patria in Finland, then the other 227 will be produced in South Africa.
Game Over....ALL Patches lies de.molished with one post
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What lies?
I am simply posting information from SIPRI
[size=15pt]And, you manipulated information from the source, purposly posting outdated information. [/size]
From the same source, the relevant and latest information:
“Denel Land Systems and Patria have signed an agreement regarding Patria AMV 8×8 armoured wheeled vehicle serial production and delivery to South Africa. The agreement includes 238 vehicles, out of which[b] 5 pre-series vehicles have already been delivered[/b] during the development phase. [b]The first 16 serial vehicles will be assembled by Patria in Finlan[/b]d, Hameenlinna. Thereafter the assembly will be migrated to South Africa to Denel Land Systems.” http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/
agaugust: France's air power, Jaguar jets, destroyed Libyan tanks, stopped Libyan jets. Special forces were based in French permanent base. French air force jets NEVER leave Chad, permanent base. Defense pact.
Chad is a French colony for life, they NEVER fight war alone ......Chad even has no air force ....Mercenary Europeans fly them .
I love how you are being forced to make this up.
Question is simple: What role did france play in the Toyota war?
SIPRI did not say you paid for all Badger IFVs, SIPRI only quoted paper value of contract, and they do it for all arms sales that have paper value published. SIPRI is not a financial monitor, they are arms transfer monitor, they don't know and don't care if you pay for weapons, all they care about is that weapons were transfered.
SIPRI lacks accurate data, they say SANDF has ORDERED 238 Badgers, they did NOT say you paid for 238.
South Africa ordered A400M Airbus from France and NEVER paid in full, only part payment, and still NEVER got a single aircraft, contract was cancelled.
SANDF has ONLY 6 Badger IFVs, when you get one more unit, we will be adding it up to know how much you paid for. Money, not paper document, is what buys you weapons, money, cash, not your empty talkative mouth !
SANDF = 6 Badger IFVs paid for.
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Augustus - if you wish to argue with SIPRI, an internationally recognized and respected arms deal monitor, then that is your prerogative.
The fact's are this:
- Deal for 236 Badger IFV's has been finalized - 222 will be built in South Africa, with 70% of each being South African components - 14 Badger will be built in Finland. - Licensed production has been finalized and the facility to build the vehicles has been built
The deal is done, the money paid, the vehicals on their way.
lezz: during the Libya invasion of chad, chad was undergoing a civil war.
A faction of chad was supporting lybia which was occupying norther chad. This Chadian faction provided scouts and infantry. Libya was proving Arial support and artillery.....so lybia wasn't fully engaged.
France was backing and supporting the other Chadian faction. Later in the war, the two Chadian faction united against Libya who still didn't have her own foot soldiers and infantry in Chad
And with heavy FRENCH SUPPORT, Lybia was defeated.
You have never told a complete truth in your entire nairaland existence.
Wrong war buddy
Google "toyota war"
French influence was limited to supporting a no fly zone and raiding one airfeild which had aircraft that violated it
Ground combat was all done by Chad - and they eradicated 1/10th of Libya army and captured/destroyed libya equipment worth $1,5 billion
Finland L: South Africa 238 AMV IFV 2013 ZAR8.8 b ($1.2 b) 'Hoefyster' programme (incl 222 produced in South Africa with up to 70% of vehicle incl turrets produced in South Africa); most IFV version; South African designation Badger; delivery 2015-2022
agaugust: [size=15pt]France NEVER withdraws military presence from Chad, they have permanent army and air force garrison in Chad.
The story says both France and Libya withdrew extra the battlefield forces from Chad, NOT that the France closed down it's permanent military bases in Chad. France NEVER withdraws it's permanent military garrison from Chad, the French military permanently lives and resides inside Chad.
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[size=20pt]" French troops withdrew by early November 1984"[/size]
agaugust: I quoted sources for everything I said, web links, photos, videos, etc. If you don't agree with those sources which I did NOT create, then hack into those sources websites and delete their data from internet.
Simple
No - you quoted no such information, or else, I wouldent be able to proudly proclaim you a liar.
And the few sources you did provide (Rooikat) were debunked - yet you continued to repeat the info you knew was wrong - making you a liar.
agaugust: [size=13pt]"The subsequent intervention of 3,000 French troops ended the Libyan successes and led to a de facto division of the country, with Libya maintaining control of all the territory north of the sixteenth parallel. Under an agreement for mutual withdrawal from Chad, French troops withdrew by early November 1984, but the Libyans secretly dispersed and hid their units."
agaugust: Funny how this forum has changed, go back to pages 1 to 15 and see how South Africans said ALL Nigerian weapons are inferior because they are 20 year old technology from AK-47 to Palmaria artillery.
Now when 20 year old South African technology is brought up on page 1800 they say technology has not changed in 20 years
G-6 Rhino is 20 years old and obsolescent.....deal with it....or go buy Bofors Archer ! .
lezz: you only admitted your lies as errors when you got blown off water by your own country man.
You're the chief manipulator of facts and figures on this very thread.
You lie without a sense of shame and tact.
You own up to nothing, you claim southafrica has a literacy level of 93%. that would make southafrica one of the most literate countries in the world far above nearly all the western countries.
Patchesagain, the Pharisee and cold-blooded lier.
You need to patch up your morality and honesty.
You are willing to pay any price just to get even.
Lezz, I dont have time to waste with you.
I allways back what I am saying with citations and evidence and openly admit my mistakes.
You do neither and deny any mistakes.
Stop de-railing this forum with off topic posting and personal attacks
agaugust: [size=13pt]"The subsequent intervention of 3,000 French troops ended the Libyan successes and led to a de facto division of the country, with Libya maintaining control of all the territory north of the sixteenth parallel. Under an agreement for mutual withdrawal from Chad, French troops withdrew by early November 1984, but the Libyans secretly dispersed and hid their units."
agaugust: Error ? You call your lies errors? You many times insisted Badger IFV is still amphibious while Andrewza keeps telling you repeatedly it is not, so that's another of your 'errors' ?
90% of your comments are lies, you make up fraudulent posts on this forum because Nigerian's are d.emolishi.ng your arguments per second per minute per hour per day.....you fight back with lies .
Error is an error - i confirmed it myself, no one is perfect
Badger IFV and whether or not it is amphibious is an open issue
You accuse me of lies? ok, here is a brief list of your lies
- You have 150 T-55's - You have T80 MBT's - You have Tucano's - Nigeria has Caesar SPG - Nigeria has the Bofors FH-77 B05 L52 - Nigerian FH-77B has a range of 52 km - "hundreds" of Olifant tanks lost in Angola - You have Su30's - Rooikat inaccuracy - Nigeria produces FN series assault rifles - Multiple lies about various SAM's nigeria (doesnt) have - Multiple lies about MRLS systems nigeria (doesnt) have - Your Chinese OPV's are armed with missiles - Nigeria has knee-mortars
You are the number 1 lair, de-railer and troll on this thread. Confirmed by the above list of lies.
agaugust: ....because the Archer was not available for sale at that time. Simple.
G-6 Rhino is an over 20 year old obsolescent design, most South African weapon platforms are obsolescent, e.g Rooivalk .
How are they obsolete?
You keep saying "its obsolete, its obsolete, its obsolete" by you can never tell us how/why
Age has nothing to do with something being obsolete, the T-72 is from 1973 making it 42 years old, twice as old as the G6, thus it is twice as obsolete... or... does age have nothing to do with it?
agaugust: No, you paid for 6 Badgers and got stuck when broke.
No ships, missiles, torpedoes with no names and no contract information of supplier/manufacturer.
You told lie SANDF is adding 40,000 new soldiers and kept lying until @andrewza said it's only 4,000 men.
[size=13pt] 90% of your comments on this forum are deliberate lies and fraud ! Barawo Banza ! .[/size]
Money for 236 Badgers, 6 Warships, New missiles, heavy weight torpedoes has all been allocated, projects announced and tenders issued in official governemnet documents tabled before parliament. WHO ARE YOU TO CHALLENGE THE MINISTER OF FINANCE?
[size=15pt]What is wrong with you that you are so blind with hate and jealousy that you try to argue with the most basic and simple facts? Are you so unwilling to engage in honest and open debate that you must resort to such petty and infantile measures? I doubt the moral fibre of a man who is more concerned with argument than with debate - I question the integrity of a man who would try to argue with the proclamations of a countries minister of finance simply for the sake of an argument.[/size].
[size=15pt]This thread is now pointless, Nigerians have had to resort to making things up in order to have anything to argue with us about - It is clear that they no longer have a leg to stand on.[/size]
PS: 40 000 was an error on my part which I acknowledged with "wooops".
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:08pm On Mar 06, 2015
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