AugustineAgain: Third time and final battle was a stalemate, Israel failed to defeat Egypt and the Israelis agreed to peaceful settlement, and NEVER attempted to threaten Egypt again, the Egyptians finally broke Israel's military track record of victory.
Saudi Arabia won't last 7 days if they fight Israel.
Egypt is the most powerful Arab and African nation today, and Nigeria is beign called upon by Egypt to help them fight ISIS in Libya, they know who is the second STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA......Nigeria ! .
Egypt did not ask for help from you - post your citation again, let me educate you.
Yom Kippur? Stalemate? Israely faced a surprise attack from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Morrocco who were supported by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Kuwait and Cuba... 400 000 Isrealy's faced an army of 1 million... and defeated the million men in battle, killed over 18 000 of them, lost only 2000 men and ended up occupying a total of sixteen hundred square kilometers in Egypt and five hundred square kilometers in Syria where they were poised to strike into Cairo and Damascus - they guys who started off defending against a suprise attack ended up in the enemies country and ready to seize his capitals... you call this a draw? It is one of the greatest military victories in history
Nigeria cannot even defeat Boko Haram fighting conventionally - Cameroon and Chad have shown to be superior militarys. Its hilarious.
AugustineAgain: Show us where Nigeria begged Chad to help. Cameroon begged Chad.
MJNTF has existed for 8 years for joint border area combat, and Nigeria commands MNJTF, Chadian army is under the command of Nigerian army, same way Tanzanian army commanded South African army.
SANDF = Chadian level
Nigeria is now in the class of Egypt who are asking us to help them fight ISIS, why did Egypt not ask Chad or South Africa for military help?
They know both of you are same low level military forces not worth calling into big battles, Tanzania is better than both of you .
First, Egypt did not ask you for help.
Second, Chad has tasted nothing but victory, while your men have forgotten what winning looks like.
I hear that the Nigerian army trucks had to get their gear boxes replaced, first to fifth gear were fine... but reverse was worn out
AugustineAgain: I wanted to post this video, not that one.
Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer
lezz: Yes we know about legislation that seeks to balance the demographic structures in countries, especially the US.
Unfortunately, what is happening in southafrica is the extreme approach.
Show me where 75% of any demographic MUST be employed when literacy level us only 36%?
Show me where private companies owned by individuals are denied licence because certain groups are not employed in a stipulated percentage.
Which other country will empower by legislation that a certain demographic be employed to all positions into the entire hierarchical structure irrespective of competency? It is only in southafrica.
The only other country which employed such unnecessary, racist policy was Zimbabwe, and Mugabe has a sad story to tell.
As for telling lies, I don't. You can dub me Leslie Facts.
For the detainment,lol, incase you haven't notice, whenever military matters become overheated, socio-economic engagement are like deserts after a meal.
We naturally will rail in back to military matters eventually.
This is all completely wrong
1. Literacy rate in South Africa is 92%
2. No company is denied any licencing due to BEE non-compliance. BEE compliance is only relevant for:
A. Winning Government tenders B. Tax incentivisation C. Government subsidies.
Companies that are not BEE compliant are not punished, rather, companies that chose to comply are rewarded.
3. Competency is relevant, multiple companies achieve BEE compliance despite the fact that they employ low numbers of previously disadvantaged people in levels above middle management - due to the scarcity of qualified black managers between the ages of 40-60 - See Anglo-American and Xtrata as examples.
This policy is essential are redressing 300 years of economic discrimination, and while it does adversely affect business efficiency this is a necessary sacrifice in the creation of a new black middle class where once there was none.
Now, if you were not a peon I would explain to you that the ANC is not a revolutionary party and is infact founded on the ideals simular to those of the center right in England and Germany ( The Tories and the CDU respectively) and that their primary concern is the creation of a stable powerbase in the middle-class that will allow them to sever ties with the trade unions (who have pulled them to the left, and caused the election of our current socialist president) so that they may pursue a more center right policy (which they were founded on).
You see, plebeian, you nigerians are focused on the now and here, we South Africans are thinking about changes that will only come into place in 2-4 generations.
Now, I have indulged you enough, this thread is far too derailed. Post on topic.
EVarn: I'm afraid you will have to make do with the information i have given you,citations are rather scarce to obtain during wartime,wouldnt you agree?
Truth is truth. Fact is fact. Don't hide your inefficiency under that term.
Everyone listen, a black southafrican screaming racism!!!!
Southafrica is an official racism entity.
White is barely 9% but of all murders in southafrica, they are at the receiving end of 40%
You want to talk about racist legislation that mandates whites to employ blacks in their own built company? That gives blacks undue power to become shareholders in a white company?
That denies white job opportunity even when they are more qualified? I cant go on repeating this.
But truth hurts a butthurt.
First - you lied about whites being 40% of the victims of violent crime.
Second - that legislation re-dresses the injustices of the past and is helping to normalize the socio-economic structure of the country. Simular legislation is in place in the US, EU and Australia as well as Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia to name but a few.
You are obsessed with race. You are also posting off topic.
EVarn: We stand above mediocrity. All the weapons i highlighted are indeed produced by either DICON or PROFORCE.we produced less than 5% of our weapons,however that was during peacetime.but now because of the war against terror,we now produce 15% of our military gadgets,most of them APCs,grenades,armoured vests and drones.
The weapons and machine guns that were employed to slay you in the apartheid days have long been destroyed and the soldiers retired.. Now I understand that such brutality plays a significant role in your perception of what military might is.
What you have now are acquired military hardware your Bantu and xhosa brethren are yet to fully comprehend.
And in all your depaetments- army, airforce and navy are peopled my unqualified recruits over half of whom are medically unfit.......FACTS from your own media and defense statements.
You are welcome here to rebuild your military on the pages of nairaland where your ability to live in deceit and hypocrisy has become a new benchmark.
Until you actually give us some facts, you have nothing to contribute.
lezz: nope, you envy Nigeria for showing the world what blacks can do in a black only country. Black power having the biggest economy on the continent, producing the 6th fastest growing economy in the world.
Conducting peace keeping operations in Africa and internationally.
Expanding entrepreneurs all over Africa.
Launching 3 satellites in orbit.
Having the 3rd largest movie industry worldwide.
Being Africa's music capital.
Having the biggest concentration of billionaires... etc
All just under 55 years.
In contrast everything in southafrica is credited to the 9% Anglo-dutch settlers.
You never contributed to a thing in your country.
That is why Africa can never get any respect globally even if southafrica goes to the moon and back unaided.
You owe the Anglo-dutch everything.
When Julius Malema was addressing his supporters at outside the university, he confessed that if they seized white land, the whites would mess up the economy.
That's where Nigeria comes in. Africa's true hope and leader.
Henry240: You have 26 Gripen jets, why would you have anything short of 26 pilots?
We dont need all 26 operational right now The Gripen is not fully operational in the SAAF The Gripen is not fully integrated with SAAF weapons systems SAAF and SAAB had running disputes about maintenance contracts
InsertName: You aren't African and will NEVER be African. Could a Nigerian be born in China and become Chinese? Who in the world cares about a "mixed" nation. Funny, are Asian countries mad that they are 100% Asian? Are white countries mad being 100% white? Nigerians are PROUD being 100% Black and love the fact that the most educated, talented, richest people look like themselves(funny how you define yourself as African yet view Blackness as bad/inferior).
Yet again, we meet another clown who confuses nationality and race
AugustineAgain: Chad is doing 5% of the job and only around the borders, they are restricted by MNJTF rules and regulations.
Nigeria is doing 90% of the job.
Chadian army was out-smarted by Bokos who slipped under the noses of a whole 4 battalions of 2,000 Chadian soldiers and entered Cameroon to wound/massacre 600 innocent Cameroonian civilians that the President Biya begged Chadian army to guard and protect
Chadian air force is flown by white-men from Europe and they are busy b.ombing innocent civilians
Chadian army was asleep when 33 Bokos entered Chad 2 weeks ago and massacred Chadian civilians on the same border Chad was guarding
Chad is not even able to do it's little 5% job effectively.....Rag tag army of jokers, nothing special if they kill or capture any Bokos, even cowardly Cameroonian army does the same thing.
What has Chad done? Local farmer people in Nigeria with clubs, machetes, and hunting guns kill and capture Boko Haram...
lol, all this butthurt
Chad and Cameroon have known nothing but victory
Your army has had to swallow a heavy dose of defeat.
AugustineAgain: Israel uses the all powerful Merkarva main battle tanks, F-16 jets, artillery, etc against ordinary Hamas terrorists that have no single APC or IFV.
You think like a potato farmer on a military thread
Meanwhile, Egypt is the most powerful Arab nation today, Saudi Arabia has ZERO war experience
Egyptian army 1.5 million......Saudi Arabian army 150,000.....Egypt will eat up Saudi Arabia like indomie noodles with onion flavour .
This kid still thinks that the size of a modern army is more important than equipment
What happened when the massive egyptian army fought the tiny isrealy army? Infact - it happened twice
Henry120: There's a scrounge of terrorism/ terrorists activities sweeping the planet. From the U.S to britain- Sweden to Nigeria- Egypt- Algeria to Turkey and China, Nations and Responsible governments are increasingly involved in defeating this barbarism.
In Nigeria, we've made a solemn promise to make our country un-habitable for terrorists and have vowed to chase these terrorists to the gates of Hell.
No - you had to beg Chad to come and clear them out for you
Henry120: The only thing South-African about that Half-french Helicopter, is it's name.
Design = French Engine = French Components = French Engineers = French Concept = French
The Rooivalk is the first french helicopter built outside france.
You South-Africans can name the patria anything you like, at the end of the day, the Patria IFV that would go into service in South-Africa would remain Finish.
AugustineAgain: I said modern day war, Angola is over 20 years ago war !
SAAF has never used BVR missile in air combat like Ethiopia and Eritrea.
SAAF has never used FLIR in helicopter combat. SAAF has never used air to ground missile in combat. SAAF has never used air to ground radar on ISTAR aircraft. SAAF has never used guided bombs in combat like Nigeria.
NAF is now your boss in air to ground combat....big time !
Show me a war where South African air force ever did something like this Nigerian air force level of high technology, show me....
Henry120: 400 South-African Special forces squared off against a bunch of farmers, hunters and kids. At the end of the battle, there were between 13- 50 dead South-African special forces soldiers, a plea for help from the french and a new government installed in bangui a few hours after the encounter with the South-Africans.
Your military is as pathetic as they come.
In Afghanistan, the U.S used "daisy cutters" against insurgents armed with only AK-47's and RPGs.
NATO troops at Squad levels call in Artillery as basic infantry support.
In naija, insurgents feel the heat
I love how henry120 has to invent his own history so that he feels less insecure about who terrible the nigerian military is.
lezz: indeed it is 2 years ago. The source says your military does not have enough cash to run your jets.
Parliament is considering selling them off. You don't have qualified pilots ( just 6) and the airport facility is rotting away.
Man, it going to ge a long hard years of climbing to the level of Angola your neighbour. That's if your country has the political will power, cash and trained pilots to do their bit.
Honestly it's not even a problem that can be solved in 10 years, never mind 2.
AugustineAgain: SAAF has no aviation fuel to even fly pilots to meet standard qualifying hours. Soon your jets will be fueled with cooking oil.
Your Gripen jets have ZERO training missiles, Nigeria has training missiles on F-7 jets.
SAAF world war II pilots of 1940 is what you are using to claim champion in year 2015 ? D.ead p.ilots don't fly aircraft, SAAF has no living ace existing.
SAAF was defeated in Angolan war by Cuban teenagers flying MiG-23, SAAF was NEVER ably to fly air to air and challenge those boys, talk less of sh.ooting down any MiG-23 in combat.
SAAF has NEVER fired ANY single missile on Gripen jets, NEVER dropped any bomb on Hawk jets, SAAF combat pilots today 2015 have ZERO experience of missile combat air to air on their aircraft.
NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties of ground attack, ISTAR, and logistics in 1 year alone, SAAF has not flown ANY SINGLE combat sortie in 20 years.
The South African air force is TOTALLY D.EAD .......................................................
- SAAF achieved 18 000 flight hours last year - citation needed - I have allready shown SAAF air-to-air combat against Cuban Migs, I have also given you the name of a SAAF pilot who shot down 2 migs in Angola - Knowledege and skills in air-to-air combat is passed on from pilot to pilot by training. - NAF flew combat sorties against an enemy with allmost zero air-defence, what you did is basically the same as bombing an empty feild.
Again, I remind you: NAF has never deployed to a hostile airspace
AugustineAgain: Your 70% is papar overhead costs value, NOT technical input. Paper value....70% made up of labourers in factory assembly line, tyres, seats/chairs, footmats, body spray paint and 30 mm cannon....that's what South Africa adds to the Badger .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:49pm On Mar 01, 2015
