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agaugust:
Most assault rifles effective range is 300m to 600m.

What is the range of SANDF R-4 rifle ? 1,000m ?

Fool...Fraud !
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Again, re-read my post

I said most battle-rifles can reach out and touch you at 1km

What is the difference between a battle-rifle and assault rifle? Do i need to educate you?

agaugust:
There are wars across lakes too wide to bridge. In full rainy season and at it's peak, no bridge can span lake Chad, means Nigerian army cannot cross into Chad except by pontoons, like rafts ferrying armour across a huge lake....the enemy on the other side will be picking you off one by one like sitting ducks.

IFV were built amphibious for a good reason, the white man is not a fool like you who thinks it's no good because you have NONE

Nigerian army has about 1,000 amphibious armoured vehicles
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1. Why go over it when you can go around it?
2. How will you supply your men on the other side?
3. What difference will 4 BTR's make?

mzilakazi:
[size=16]It is confirmed that SA former special forces and other highly trained SA soldiers are currently secretly training rag tag Nigerian military in Nigeria. The minister of defence is ordering for their arrest on their return.


@agaugust must just bury his head on the sand to see that our people are training Nigerians[/size]



http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Arrest-SA-mercenaries-on-Boko-Haram-mission-Mapisa-Nqakula-20150128

They are just the tip of the spear

Soon the AU will vote for intervention

And with german money in our pockets we will deploy to help Cameroon defend their people

And across the border Nigeria will burn

agaugust:
The Swiss made the gun manual and it has never killed it's owner or operator in world history, South Africa now manufactured an automatic system and fixed it on the gun, that AMSCOR product is a faulty junk piece and it turned the gun on it's owners, killing and maiming many SANDF soldiers....South African made junk system killed South African soldiers....deal with your bad product

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/9-killed-in-army-horror-1.374838
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Equipment mafunctions all the time

So what

Your government can barley put together an MRAP and you think you can critique us?

andrewza:
you stuck them where?

https://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx267/Jerrycan_photo/IMG_2011C4_zpsbc304ab0.jpg

Lol that civilian grade life boat

Must do wonders for the "stealth" vessels radar cross section

Typical example of Nigerians inability to impliment systems properly

Henry120:
SANDF Fairy tale defence review in a "nutshell".


There does not appear to be any real urgency regarding the Defence Review and its need to progress through the Parliamentary process enabling at least a start to be made on reversing the downward spiral of the South African military.

The latest example of tardiness can be found in the programme of the Joint Standing Committee on Defence for the first part of the 2015 Parliamentary work year.

The Parliamentary Programme Framework provides for a committee period between January 27 and February 11 for Parliamentary committees, such as defence, to meet and conduct oversight visits.

In essence it boils down to the Framework making time available for the various Parliamentary committees to work.

“It means 10 days, spanning 80 hours, of meetings could have been scheduled for the Joint Standing Committee on Defence to consider aspects of the Defence Review, by agreement the committee’s top priority. Sadly, not a single meeting has been scheduled for the committee period,” said David Maynier, opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister.
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The Defence Review was completed at the request of then Defence Minister, Lindiwe Sisulu, by Roelf Meyer and his team for tabling in Parliament late in 2012. A change of Minister ensured this did not happen and when current Minister, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, eventually tabled the document in Parliament last July, its title was changed to reflect it as the 2014 Defence Review and not the 2012 Defence Review.

Among others, the Review stated the SANDF was “in a critical state of decline, characterised by force imbalance between capabilities; block obsolescence and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems; a disproportionate tooth-to-tail ratio; the inability to meet current standing defence commitments and the lack of critical mobility”.

Taking another excerpt from the Review (“even with an immediate intervention it could take at least five years to arrest the decline and another five to develop a limited and sustainable defence capability”) to illustrate the need to get on with the job as far as turning the SANDF around Maynier points out “there is an element of urgency”.

“Every day wasted talking about the Defence Review, rather the implementing it, accelerates the decline of the SANDF.”

He is not happy about the manner in which the Joint Standing Committee intends to deal with the Review.

“Its current rubberstamp programmes envisage dealing with the 344 page document, based on 435 stakeholder meetings and 76 public submissions at a cost of nearly R11 million to the taxpayer in three meetings. These meetings are set to last 10.5 hours and will take place between February 20 and March 5.”

He has proposed an alternative of 18 meetings including briefings on military preparedness, downsizing and rightsizing, acquisition priorities and affordability of Review proposals.

“In the end it is a disgrace that the SANDF is being held hostage by lazy and disinterested MPs serving on the Joint Standing Committee on Defence,” Maynier said this week.

So its taking time to get through parliament

So what? Where does it say its a fairy tale?

Henry120:
Let me repeat, you weren't missed. You name was mentioned only in references.

Yes Nigeria has a pact with them. We seen that pact come into in the supply of BTR4E, MI-35, T-72AV and T-84 tank deliveries, despite Ukraine also been involved in ATO.

No, SANDF doesn't and have never spent more than Nigeria, we have consistently said this over the years.

Per person we spend double what you do

And you are at war while we are not

Lol

agaugust:
Sea trial video proved it test fired missiles, currently not armed with missiles but proved it can be armed if need for missiles arises. We don't need missiles to arrest pirates. NN has shifted plans to smaller missile armed boats coming from China as stop gap measures
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That video was of a seperate vessel you clown

It was a generic advertisment

agaugust:
SAN has only ONE frigate alive, the others are dead fish tanks
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Literal trolling

agaugust:
South Africa does not hide weapons , you photograph and advertise all you have, even the Mokopa missile you don't have is published for public information. Only Nigeria hides weapons, NAF has drones with PGMs and yet was saying that they don't have PGM, now after the truth has leaked out, they admit they have PGM.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/
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There is zero proof to support your allegations

agaugust:
Citation needed from military or political sources.

Dream on dreamer, your South Africa imported American special forces to fight ordinary Rhino Poachers....where were your old men recces to save you in Kruger park? Save your homeland first before you dream about other countries
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Its pretty pathetic that you keep relying on the same argument after it was debunked so long ago

Henry120:
Your A109's are grounded, all 26 of them. Defenceweb article i pasted a few weeks back proves so.

You have only 1. Again prove posted, i'm not going to repost them because of you.

Did the artical say they were permanently grounded?

Or did it say they were grounded pending their maintenance paperwork being sorted out?

Its a pity you have to resort to manipulation of the facts in your vain attempt to prove a point

Patchesagain:
Again, who says its your drone?

Henry120:
For what it's worth, you weren't missed.

Denel owns drones doesn't equate to the SANDF fielding them, or been able to afford them.

In the Ukraine, their Defence manufacturers export state of the art IFV, Tanks, LAV's, while Ukrainian troops ride in pick-up trucks and "back yard/amateur welded buses".

Do you know why this happens?........... it is because, just like the SANDF, the Ukrainian government is broke, and cannot afford to properly equip the Ukrainian military.


The Fact a defence company makes something, doesn't equate to your military fielding them.

Denel is not a private defence company

Sandf is not broke, and neither is our government

agaugust:
The NAF CH-3 armed drone costs over $1 million and has ISTAR camera/thermal imager/FLIR for target selection before launching guided missile and guided bombs with precision to hit verified and identified target, careful use will not harm civilians.

Nigerian military is the first in Africa to fight war with missile armed drones, we have the most modern military in sub Saharan Africa....JF-17 Thunder jets and Russian jets are also coming this year o !

NAF rules Africa !
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Again, who says its your drone?

Henry120:
Actually sir, it is 13 years, not 11 years. Please don't make this mistake again.


Another failure, Kobani!!.

After over 1500 air strikes on the tiny town on the border with turkey, there are still ISIS fighters in the city engaging the YPGg, whether it is outskirts or not, it doesn't matter.

One would have expected the all powerful and stupendous americans to have completely obliterated the enemy a long time ago........ No, No............ 5 months on, they are still fighting in a small town.

Someone doesnt know that ISIS have been pushed out of Kobani

Lol

agaugust:
Show us photo of DENEL civilian staff fighting as soldiers in Angola !
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1. Why a photo? You cant read?

2. Who said anything about them fighting as soldiers?

agaugust:
South Africa is a garbage factory where all kinds of thrash gets manufactured. Your AMSCOR made robot cannon turned SANDF anti-aircraft gun on your own soldiers at home and killed them in training, nobody could control the gun until all its 35mm shells were fired on SANDF soldiers that were operating the gun, thus killing and maiming your own army with your own product at home. See where Chinese are better than you? Your own guns turn against SANDF and spray them with automatic fire , nation of garbage!!!
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Equipment malfunctions from time to time no reason to say that everything we make is garbage

I challenge you to show us one thing you make that in any way compares to what we do

You yourself were salavating over Denel products on beegugugugs blog

You seem to love to contradict yourself

agaugust:
How does that change the fact that AMSCOR sold your army faulty cannon that turned around and killed SANDF soldiers that were operating it?
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Did armscore make the cannon?

agaugust:
1 million is figurative, you should know that.

Means we can build as many Igirigi as we can get engines to buy, Ford will give us 50,000 engines if we pay. DICON can produce 100,000 mortars if we pay.

All am saying us equipment you don't have in arsenal is never counted as military might, world military power ranking sites don't count DENEL products unless SANDF has them in service after purchase. DENEL won't give you free weapons, they ran into heavy debt and almost collapsed around 2012 untill government used cash to bail them out.

No free DENEL drones for you, SANDF does NOT have any Seeker drone in service and NO Mokopa missile that the drone is designed to carry.

You have neither the drone nor it's missile, Nigerian air force has combat drones armed with missiles so we are superior to you in military technology, your SANDF is a rag tag photographers club
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Who said nigeria has armed drones??

American drones crash is pakistan all the time - can the pakistanis say that they have drones now?

And yes, Denel has them and operate them for the SANDF

If denel has it, we have it

agaugust:
The American fool should first go and lecture American military that failed in Afghanistan after 11 years war against Taliban, the white-man's super power army has been defeated in Afghanistan, Taliban terrorists still control 50% of the nation and USA is withdrawing it's thosands of troops, thousands of armoured vehicles and hundreds of combat aircraft....Americans you go weep and cry over your own colossal military failure and leave the black people's Naija army alone, we are the pride of the black race worldwide.

Hey, let USA send Yankee white army to come to Nigerian military academy and learn how to recover your army vehicles back from the enemy when you lose them, Taliban rag tag terrorists are driving around Afghanistan in captured Obama Humvee vehicles till today, White House, go to Aso Rock for combat lectures !

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Who said afghanistan is a loss?

Henry120:
I almost feel sorry for you.

SAN has 4 Frigates, correct. However, SAN can only afford to keep 1 Frigate at sea. In south-Africa, grounded is just the same thing as decommissioned. Look at your A109's, all grounded. They spent more time grounded than in the air.

"Why does South-Africa even bother with a military"?......... it's absolutely no use.

We just spent USD 20 million on overhauling a frigate - we can definitly afford to operate them

We are simply performing maintenance inline with international maritime standards (see germany for example)

And A109s are not grounded - if they were how would we send them on disaster releif operations in mozambique?

Henry120:
It is an OPV. Let's talk about your single (1) frigate in service instead.

All 4 frigates are in service

They are simply undergoing overhaul and maintenance

And we have one more missile armed warship than you

Lel

agaugust:
Several soldiers beside them is clearly seen, legs in NA camouflage uniform, faces hidden for security reasons. Civilian JTF used cutlass to capture APC and artillery....LOL....Seleka used cigarette to capture SANDF Geckos .....LOL....this week is bad for South Africans on nairaland !
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Nope - its been a bad week for civilians in NE nigeria

1,6 million displaced
Up to 2000 killed in less than 3 days
16 towns flattened

agaugust:
[size=16pt]SANDF remains the real cowards until Southie army can match Naija army in achievement, go back to Bangui and collect back all your army Geckos and uniforms from Seleka rebels, Nigerian army has done again what South African army has not been able to do in 2 years.

Until Parabats and Special forces of South Africa find courage to overcome their cowardice, and collect back their Gecko vehicle from this rag tag boy smoking cigar on Mandela's property, just one of the many Geckos captured by Seleka....SANDF remains the NO.1 Cowards of Africa
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First - there is only one gecko

Second - those gecko belonged to CAR forces

Third - even if they are ours, how does a single gecko compare to all the MRAPS artillert ApCs and tanks BH has captured from you?

EVarn:
typical bantu character

agaugust:

When news said Baga and Monguno have fallen to Boko, and 2,000 died in Baga figure copied from facebook, you don't call that propaganda.

Now when Nigerian army rises up to prove to the world, BBC, and even prove to our own National Security Adviser that they are NOT cowards, fight Boko, till Boko Haram flees and abandons APC, artillery, etc, then Nigerian army of 'cowards' collects back it's lost weapons in 3 days, kills 100 Boko Haram fighters, then that is propaganda to you....LOL....candle shortage + load shedding daily bombardment can turn a South African into mental case....kolomental case....anyway, for you to be proved wrong that it is NOT propaganda and Boko Haram is being massively killede, roasted, busted, made to run like the cowards they are.....here are photos from the current ongoing battlefields....let's see how Nigerian army has thrown back the word 'cowards' into the mouth of everyone that said it from Pretoria to London.....

Until the story is covered by a reputibale news source

Its propaganda

agaugust:
Do you know why I don't usually reply your comments? You are a time waster trying to drag me back into old arguments that have been discussed and stuff proved many times over and over on this forum in the past 2 years. I wouldn't waste my valuable time repeating all over again the same things I have said and proved several times, I am not a jobless man, it seems you live on ANC cash support for the unemployed parasites society of South Africa.

Hahahahahah

You know augugnug has been absolutely wrecked when he cannot even try to respond with an argument


Augubug - you dont respond because you are getting whooped

Lolly lolzy lol

agaugust:
One lone terrorist wrecked the whole security network of South Africa with a bicycle
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Its like dealing with a child

agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Boko Haram Flees and abandons heavy weapons for Nigerian army.

NAF jets and helicopters pound Boko Haram into hell in Monguno as army re-enters town.

Nigerian army captures Baga weapons from Boko Haram as Naija Ninjas proves National Security Adviser wrong :

We are no cowards, we have collected our APCs and artillery back from Boko Haram by fire by force !

Shame on all South Africans...SANDF should go back to Bangui and collect your Gecko vehicles from Seleka ! [/size]

"The Defence Headquarters on Monday said the troops inflicted more casualties on fleeing insurgents while military locations in Maiduguri and Konduga were reinforced.

It further stated that the troops captured a large number of heavy military hardware from the insurgents.

The tweet read, “Our forces recorded some casualties. Meanwhile, ground troops are in charge and Air Force patrol on going at Maiduguri and Konduga.

Substantial amount of heavy weapons have been captured as more terrorists died in the fight which lasted till early Monday morning."

http://www.punchng.com/news/fighter-jets-pound-bharam-locations-in-monguno/

PHOTO OF APC AND ARTILLERY LOST IN BAGA, NOW ABANDONED BY FLEEING BOKO HARAM ROASTED BY AFRICA'S BEST ARMY....
https://www.osundefender.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/A-Cobra-Armoured-Personnel-Carrier-360x225.jpg
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Hahaha

More propaganda??

Boko have captured more of your weapons than you have of theirs

agaugust:
500 Rhinos were evacuated from South Africa and rushed to safety in Botswana that has a better army. SANDF. SAAF, Special Forces, Rangers, and 21 Battalion were all defeated live and direct on home soil Kruger park South Africa....see American commandos helping your army

http://www.hollywoodsoapbox.com/?p=10593

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rg-r0N5i10A/maxresdefault.jpg
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SANDF is not deployes directly for APU duties - confirmes by Commander of SANParks APU operations

Americans were here for a TV show - they did not work with the SANDF or on Public land

This is pure desperation on your part

agaugust:
You want to laugh at other peoples failure, while you make excuses to justify your own failures.

Sorry dude, life does not work like that, failure is failure...one single ANC terrorist defeated SADF, SAP, BOSS on home soil with a bicycle

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So having one guy blow up a building site is exactly the same as topping the world terror rankings, losing multiple towns and vast ammounts of military equipment and having around 2000 people slaughtered in a week?

Yeah, totally the same

EVarn:
good that you gave up mr patrick.

Yes, i have given up arguing with someone who cant even grasp the argument himself

I am not a fan of wasting my own time

agaugust:
Show us the photos and details !
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They have been posted many times