Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:35pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: SANDF has ZERO amphibious transport, we have 67....enough cargo for 50 tanks that cross a river, the tanks carry their own supplies and full tank fuel, only need little supplies till operation is over, then 67 MT-LB can go back and forth ferrying supplies weekly, that is how standard army logistics supply chain work....fool  Uhh no, 50 tanks will quickly run out of fuel. How will you transport food, fuel, ammunition, medical supplies, re-enforcements, spares, equipment with only 67 MT-LB? And if your 60 MT-LB's are being used to ferry stores - what will be doing APC work on the other side? 0/10 - apply yourself. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:30pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: There were no targets in the videos and nothing to measure 1km distance as proof .....FRAUDSTER ! Video is pretty clear. And considering it was a Bisley Rifle competition, the range will be 1km. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:29pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Boko Haram is NOT in Nigeria alone, they are in Chad and Cameroon. You need other countries to stop them from escaping across borders to rest. rearm, reinforce and cross border again to come back....common sense is missing for your head, such war will involve all countries where Boko Haram has camps and bases.
Anyway, South Africa has ZERO war experience as SANDF today. War experience is irrelevant if your men are properly trained. Example: Gulf War 1 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:27pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: In your 100 year history....SA never fought alone.
Nigeria fought alone in Biafra and Niger Delta.
In NE zone, we have borders with other countries and join forces if combat is on border line and needs to have a force that can criss cross . O wow, Nigeria fought alone in civil wars... totally relevant #ShowUsNigeriaFightingAloneAbroad |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:27pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Ask your Southie soldier battalion men to go clear Rhino poachers off Kruger park first, then your curriculum vitae will improve  . It would be illegal for the SANDF to do so - they can only perform policing tasks within 2-5km of the border or if they have a tasking issued by the relevant provincial police commissioner which is confined to road blocks or highly specific tasks within a specif urban environment (if i remember my crim law properly) Poaching has never been a major SANDF concern |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:24pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: The AU force is Nigeria itself, plus Chad, Cameroon, Niger, and Benin....the same old Multinational force with Benin added as we all share borders......The SANDF force you boasted about is MISSING in the AU team.....your military reputation is too poor to qualify 
The armies you mentioned as COIN experienced, Bwahahhaha....
South Africa....beaten by Rhino poachers, and humiliated by Seleka teenagers....one single ANC man used bicycle to rubbish SADF at home.
Uganda.....LRA terrorists kindapped thousands of Ugandan boys and girls gone missing forever in Uganda
Kenya....El-Shabab is rubbing Kneya's face in the mud inside Nairobi capital city while Kenyan army steals jewelry from hostage victims
Angola, Tanzania, Chad, DRC congo have never had real Islamic terrorist invasion, they had rebels that were well defined and visible.
Meanwhile, the AU force is Nigeria plus neighbours.....each force based inside it's own borders, only able to cross for combat and return, or do joint operations.....same old multi-national force now called AU force.....The hopes of you South Africans is dashed into pieces, you were expecting foreign troops to be deployed from all over Africa into Nigerian territory....LOL....I laugh at your miserable disappointment.....Nigeria is too big and too strong for what you imagined should happen...Sorry about your shattered dreams 
. The Au force has not been formalized, it is awaiting UN approval and funding With regards to your post about the lack of COIN experience, look at Somalia and look at North Kivu DRC - two highly succesfull COIN campaigns. Nigeria is unable to replicate these results in its own country |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:28pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Henry120: The Nigerian military has never fought alone you pathetic fool.
The MNJTF has been in existence for over 10 years. Contributing troops along the border region have always been from Nigeria, Niger and Chad. So why then does augubgug say South Africa is inferior for not fighting alone? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:21am On Feb 01, 2015 |
EVarn: well,the world will have to come to an end then.because i dont see any african country willingly volunteering its troops to fight terrorists.moreover,what will the 7500 soldiers do that our 20 000 soldiers in borno havent already done in the past?,what ability does the 7500 soldiers possess that our 130 000 strong military does not surpass?,what skill or strategy will the 7500 soldiers utilize that our 35 000 soldiers in the north east havent utilized?,most african countries dont even have COIN training and experience{SA included}.if the AU is going to set up any fighting force,its still going to comprise of chadians,nigeriens,cameroonians and it will be nigerians that heads the mission,all these countries are already members of the MNJTF and are already currently fighting BH in the north east. What do they have that you dont? - mobility - skill - a lack of corruption - moral - motivation - basic equipment - functional equipment For example, look at what the AU has done in Somalia with a much smaller force against an enemy that held a much larger area and was not only well funded but well entrenched Your army is incompetent, poorly motivated, rife with corruption and lacks complete and utter tactical nuance. With regards to COIN, SANDF and many African countires (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Angola, elements of the DRC army, Chad) have either COIN experience or are well versed in COIN training. Furthermore, COIN is no longer the type of war you are fighting. You are now fighting LICW. Your inability to defeat BH in LICW shows (yet again) what a lame duck your military is. And as to your implication that it will be led by Nigerians... why the hell would anyone let a man that cannot even successfully lead his own troops lead theirs? Just sit back and wait, AU is coming to bail you out.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:51am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: SANDF denied it . Nigerian army denied it. Na you personally see them in Abuja?
#Show Us SA Mercenaries In Nigeria...I Showed You American Mercenaries In Kruger park . Those men werent in Kruger As I have shown many many times |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:51am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Mercenaries are private men, not SANDF, did your mercenaries fight for you against Seleka in Bangui?
Those mercenaries are not your national army, or they also fly your Gripens and sail your Submarines ?
Many countries have mercenaries, not only you, they are NOT counted as a national military force.
Apartheid mercenaries will NEVER help South Africa in war, they are your sworn enemies who oppressed you in Soweto.
Reason why SANDF paid dollars to Brazil that has zero war experience to train SANDF for war in Congo DRC, why did you not get training from your own experienced mercenaries if they are truly loyal to South Africa? LOL....Private men, not your army....and those guys are enemies of ANC political organization....they are your former tormentors in Soweto ! . We sent men to Brazil so we could begin setting up a dedicated jungle warfare school in Port St Johns We have no operational history in triple-canopy jungle warfare, hence we needed to build capacity Many SADF men still proudly serve the SANDF - you see, the thing about professional soldiers is that they ignore politics. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:48am On Feb 01, 2015 |
EVarn: duly acknowledged My pleasure to be of your assistance *tips hat* |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: That's why I said SANDF is an army built to fight only in your homeland....ZERO force projection....and your friends are dreaming to come to NE zone and chase Boko Haram across lake Chad....LOL....all your whole army will drown inside water. LOL 
SANDF = Dry land only army  . According to this map of Boko Haram activity there is practically no major water obsticals in the AO So, I am not quite sure what your point was. And we dont have force projection? Ask the Angolans about our force projection
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:43am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: ....because the limited money for new SANDF weapons is diverted and paid to you as salary  Weird then that we have just begun production of the A-darter and Badger, paid for the last stage of development of the Marlin and Raptor 3 and issued tenders for 8 new frigate sized OPV's |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:42am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: SANDF standard issue rifle for your army today is R-4 with max effect range 600m. Fact ! And so? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41am On Feb 01, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:38am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Catch nothing !
The extra Badger armour is not for the body, it's under-chassis to make it resist IED and mines like an MRAP not 30mm ammo....Fool  . Nope - we use flat floor technology which uses blast vents (like the Australian Bushmaster) and not added armor |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:36am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Garrisons don't move from town to town ....fool  . So how does Boko Haram capture towns and raid other towns? Magical teleportation? Invisibility cloaks? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:35am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Lol, you need to cry sweet tears for a dream IFV not in service after 18 years delay 
There is no 37 Bagders inside factory process as we speak, no money, SANDF is broke ! No 10 Billion Rands to pay, no cash !
Now you say 12 units in service, but three of you Southies just posted this morning that you have only 5 units produced for tests.
You see how dreams can be like hypnotism ?
5 Badgers at 7 AM today, 12 Badgers at 11 AM today, express factory production of extra 7 units in 4 hours...na like baking bread in oven ?
LOL  . Read the source augustus, its quite clear SANDF is far from broke - considering trhe R10 billion has been paid |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigeria's new batch of T-72 M1 tanks arriving from Czech next week have double ERA and 90% capability of a T-90 tank . Pulling more facts from your bum? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: No Bagder in service until 2020  . What is wrong with you? Multiple sources have been posted that show: - 6 currently in service - ~30 soon to be delivered - first of 236 roll off production line late this year or early next year |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:33am On Feb 01, 2015*. Modified: 3:53am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Your answers are off the point of my question.
I said armies upgrade and change tank armour, simple fact. Stop twisting. His answer is direct The tank hull IS THE ARMOR - you cant change it unless you replace the turret or attach armor ontop of existing armor. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:32am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: American wars are big, they span large nations and regions, that would involve multiple armies because of alliances and NATO protocol.
SANDF fights tiny wars like the one in Bangui....13 hours is your army's maximum endurance  . According to you the war in Angola involved 300,000 men Is that small? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:31am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Our APC's include transporters like MT-LB with cabin for logistic supplies, they are amphibious and can shuttle between HQ and FOB
How do you think amphibious armoured brigades get supplies across water? Mumu . You only have 67 MT-LB's - that is no where enough to support an armored brigade. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:30am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Means all the story that SADF recovered damaged Olifant tanks from field and repaired them at home were all lies  . Olifant tanks suffered track damage you clown |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28am On Feb 01, 2015*. Modified: 3:53am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope, DENEL funded and owns the Badger. Army only buys finished products.
Did SANDF fund development of Mokopa ATGM and now refuse to buy it, while DENEL has exported same to another country. How many weapons development projects can your broke army afford to fund development and still fund purchases ? Fool . Denel weapons were used in the border war before they were in service with the SADF (go look up Juliet troop - highly experimental G6 howitzers used during Quito loong before introduction into SADF service) You are simply too simple to understand how our military-industrial complex works |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: The project defined the concept of the vehicle, reason why the Badger design is an obsolete 18 year old IFV concept  . Nope - project defined the need to replace the IFV Decision as to what was needed was released in 2007 - meaning that the requirements were only decided upon at that time. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:26am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: No project no vehicle, two inseparable things. Actually yes, completely seperate Look at the US Army GCV program |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:25am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Cameroon does not challenge Super powers, e.g Nigeria did in campaign against apartheid to free you and your family...say thank you  Nigerias anti-apartheid campaign was limited to issuing Visa's and writing a song |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:24am On Feb 01, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:23am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Henry120: You don't, but your 12 mothballed Gripens are filling the pinch, the inability for the SAAF to purchase aviation fuel, your sub which spent 7 years at the docks are enough proof. - no gripen mothballed - 22 000 hours of jet fuel purchased, 18000 used = surplus- Sub spent 7 years and hundreds of millions of rands being upgraded actually defeats your "proof" If we are broke I dont want to think what the Nigerian army is |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:22am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nothing like 1,000m range kill in all these fraud videos you are posting.
Youtube is made by teenagers if they wish.
The men in your fake video killed nothing, he was firing bullets into the empty air.
You have trapped yourself again, I need to bookmark this your claims....
Now show us record sniper kill with Enfield iron sights on target 1,000 m away  . Video clearly shows men aiming at and hitting targets at 1km distance with WW2 rifles using only iron sights |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:20am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigeria can fit BRV radar and BVR missiles on F-7 jet if need arises. We can also fit ATGM on Cobra APCs if need arises.
Not only you can adjust weapons in war. Fool  Since we build them - yes we can Since you dont - no you cant ' Fool |