₦airaland Forum

lezz:
number 1 in murder, number 1 in rape, number 1 in AIDS.
laugh to that. hehehehehe

1. Rape, we arent even in the top 5 for rape
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

2. Homicide, we arent even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

3. Violence, in terms of this South Africa is 122nd in the world, Nigeria is 151ts (which means Nigeria is a more violent country than South Africa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

4. HIV/AIDS, South Africa is 4th in the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

*yawns*

lezz:
these companies are being arm twisted to employ lazy black folks and making them shareholders.
they are corporate assylum seekers escaping inefficiencies back home.

These companies are dominating your economy and funneling profits back into ours.

Welcome to the hegemony, b1tch

lezz:
where are you, facts falsifing rough. I have presented you with all the facts that SouthAfrica is number 1 in rape. number 1 in homicide, number 1 in violence and number 1 in HIV/AIDS.

1. Rape, we arent even in the top 5 for rape
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

2. Homicide, we arent even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

3. Violence, in terms of this South Africa is 122nd in the world, Nigeria is 151ts (which means Nigeria is a more violent country than South Africa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

4. HIV/AIDS, South Africa is 4th in the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

Again, facts have shown that you are utterly and completely wrong. Only a troglodyte would continue to argue in such circumstances. But please, continue, the mental gymnastics you have to do to fuel your delusions is most entertaining.

lezz:
murder and crime is a universal phenomenon but southafrica is the world's murder capital and savagery.
now as bad as your crime rate is, it is still under reported.

This argument of yours has been debunked.

And last time I checked... violence in South Africa did not displace 1,6 million people... hmmm... which country was it that has 1,6 million displaced?

craziebone:
it is because you have Nigerians working there.

In One of the few times i was watching the big brother show and they were showing the cast names of all of the crew people, i saw 90 percent Nigerian names! I was a bit shocked that we are the ones running your company. lol. In almost every department of those companies you are so proud of are Nigerians. Nigerians make your companies work. We also make ours work too. We have the richest people on the continent. The biggest entertainment industry on the continent was concieved and built by Nigerians, fact! The first African auto mobile is Nigerian, fact! We have a world class rail network, fact! We have the best ways to distribute fertilizers on the continent.

How about a citation?

O, thats right, "its true because I say it is"

lezz:
you Gus are also unemployed.
 
The Most Murderous Societies On Earth
 
The Nedcore Project has concluded that: "South Africa and Southern Africa are probably the most murderous societies on earth, even with the probable under-reporting." The Nedcore Project claims the results of their surveys "underscore the fact that crime has become South Africa's pre-eminent sociological problem. It now eclipses even unemployment in concerns of all South Africans."

Factually speaking, we are not the most murderous society on earth - not even in the top 10
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/violence/by-country/

lezz:
really? A country where 50 murders take place daily? Let's do this math: 50*365= SouthAfrica's murder rate.

now you must be swamp mouse to believe the average black southafrican who is a savage, moroniik, illiterate, violent rapist of adult and infants with saliva drooling from his lips left open by lack of personal awarness, could come anywhere near Nigerians who are masters of there land, economy and destiny.sing me another song

Factually speaking, it is Nigerians who are illiterate.

Factually speaking, we live in a better country than you.

Factually speaking, Nigeria is inferior to South Africa in every conceivable measure - EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Factually speaking, your overly emotional posts show us nothing more than the mad jealousy you feel for South Africa.

lezz:
@ mugu patchesagain, you claimed Nigeria is a failed state and southafrica is so civilized. and you wanted sources. I told you I don't usually do the source thing because I read wide and extensive just as you lazy around in nairaland looking for a sense of purpose and ego massage. here's another citation from your government agency. read for my pleasure and your horror:he most notable aspect of the crime statistics for 2012/13 is that the violent crimes that cause the most fear and trauma amongst the public have increased. For the first time in six years there is an increase in both the number and rate of murders and attempted murders. Murder is an important indicator both because it is the most accurate of all crime categories and because it is internationally seen to be an indicator of a country’s stability. There was also a small increase in the number of sexual offences recorded by the police.

The facts about the increases in interpersonal violence are as follows:

Incidents of murder increased from 15 609 murders in 2011/12 to 16 259 murders in 2012/13.
This means that there was an increase of 650 murder cases or a 4,2% increase when comparing the total numbers of murders with the previous year.
This works out to almost two additional murders per day on average during the 2012/13 financial year.
Consequently, our murder rate increased from a total average of 43 murders per day to 45 murders per day.
Using the correct census data for 2011, the murder rate in 2011/12 was 30.3 per 100,000 population and not 30,9 as reported by SAPS in the last reporting period.
The murder rate for 2012/13 stood at 31.3 per 100,000 population which reflects an increase of 2.8% in the rate of murders (not 0.6% as presented officially).
South Africa’s murder rate is therefore about four and a half times higher than the global average of 6.9 murders per 100 000.
Attempted murder cases increased from 14 859 to 16 363, an increase of 10.1%
Attempted murder rates increased by 8,7% in the past year.
Sexual offence cases increased from 64 514 to 66 387, an increase of 2.9%.
Sexual offence rates increased from 125,1 per 100000 to 127,0 per 100000 population an increase of 1.5%.
The crimes above are not easy to reduce through policing alone.  This is because most (around 60% to 70%) of murders, attempted murders and rapes, occur between people who know each other and occur as a result of a mix of particular social and economic factors. These crimes are often referred to by the police as ‘inter-personal’ violent crimes.  Only between 15% and 20% of murders and attempted murders are the result of aggravated robbery while inter-group conflicts and vigilantism make up the rest.

There has also been an increase in robberies in 2012/13, which is a crime that the police can directly reduce through employing effective strategies. Robberies pose a particular concern as they occur when armed perpetrators directly threaten or use violence against their victims in order to steal their belongings. This can result in severe trauma, injury or sometimes death to the victim.  The total number of aggravated robberies reported to the police increased from 101 203 cases to 105 888 cases (an increase of 4 685 cases) or 4.6%.  The aggravated robbery rate increased by 196.2 per 100 000 people  to 202.6 per 100 000 people of which represents an increase of 3.2%.

Total aggravated robbery includes a number of sub-categories, most of which increased in the 2012/13 financial year:

Street or public robberies increased by 2 534 cases to a total of 60 262 incidents. This is 4.4% higher than the 57,728 incidents recorded the previous year. It means that every day on average there were 166 cases of street robbery in 2012/13.
House robberies are reported when people are attacked by armed gangs while they are in their homes. This crimes increased by 7.1% to 17 950 incidents representing an additional 1 184 households being attacked when compared to the previous year.  On average 49 households were attacked each day in 2012/13.
Business robberies increased by 2.7% to 16 377 incidents.  This crime type has consistently increased in the past eight years so it is 345% higher than in 2004/05. There were an additional 426 armed attacks on businesses in 2012/13 as compared to the previous year.
Vehicle hijacking increased by 5.4% to 9 990 incidents. This means that 28 motor vehicles were hijacked every day on average in 2012/13.This is of particular.http://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-south-africas-official-crime-statistics-for-201213/

Again, this shows us what? That there is violence in South Africa?

Quality of life in South Africa is factually superior to that of Nigeria,

"Where to be born index"
South Africa - 53rd in the world
Nigeria - 80th (LAST PLACE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

And the killer: Quality of Life
South Africa - 110
Nigeria - 2 (8 places away from the worst quality of life in the world)
http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

Thats right - of all 80 listed countries Nigeria is factually the worst place in the world to live

Thats right - quality of life in South Africa is 55 times better than that in Nigeria

At this stage there is no debate, no discussion, factually speaking it is better to be in South Africa than in Nigeria.

Your country is a failed state and an embarrassment to the continent.

Deal With It.

lezz:
is it tears I see there?
You mean you didn't see the citation or you just conveniently ignored it.


You claim southafrica is heaven to live in? You want source? You want citations? You're a slowpoke.



survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.[1] Total crime per capita was 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset.

The United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute have also conducted research[2] on the victims of crime which shows the picture of South African crime as more typical of a developing country.

MurderEdit

Around 50 people are murdered in South Africa each day.[3] The murder rate has increased by an order of magnitude in South Africa during the last 40 years,[4] though it has fallen from 66.9 per 100,000 people in 1994–95 to 37.3 in 2008–09.[5] From 2003–2009, crime decreased significantly according to official police data.[6] Between 1994 and 2009, the murder rate reduced by 50% to 34 murders per 100,000 people. The annual crime statistics released in 2011 show a continuing downward trend, except for rape, which went up by 2.1%.[7] Business Against Crime attributed the reduction to improvements in the criminal justice system and policing.[7] There have been numerous press reports on the manipulation of crime statistics that have highlighted the existence of incentives not to record violent crime.[8] Nonetheless, murder statistics are considered accurate.[5]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa

You can chew on that for your Sunday snack. LOL

Using 15 year old data shows us what?

You said we were the worlds Number 1 in terms of violence - you have been proven to be very very wrong.

The only tears I have are of laughter - your attempts to hold any form of argument with me are hysterical.

lezz:
you mean Anglo-dutch companies or seized properties by corrupt undemocratic ANC and forcibly handed to illiterate, inexperienced and docile savage southafricans.

Seized properties? Where?

"Anglo-Dutch companies"? Thats a strange way of spelling "South African Companies"

lezz:
well since the economic asylum of SA Anglo-dutch companies in Nigeria, Pretoria has been running errands for Abuja.
that would make you my political stooge/puppet.

don't forget the yellow fever vaccine and money laundry rift.

1. We still have your money

2. We are funneling vast profits out of your economy and into ours

We have a simple policy, first we embarrass you, then you over react and threaten our buisness interests - investors take note that Nigerian government is willing to do such acts and question wether it is a sound investment oppertunity - and then we continue

Its pretty obvious what we are doing, and its pretty effective - considering we are still the continents No 1 FDI destination

lezz:
Estimated HIV infection in Africa in 2007 shows high rates of infection in Southern Africa.
HIV/AIDS in South Africa is a prominent health concern; South Africa is believed to have more people with HIV/AIDS than any other country in the world.

The 2007 UNAIDS report estimated that 5,700,000 South Africans had HIV/AIDS, or just under 12% of South Africa's population of 48 million.[1] In the adult population the rate is 18.5%.[2] The number of infected is larger than in any other single country in the world. The other top five countries with the highest HIV/AIDS prevalence are all neighbours of South Africa.

In 2007, only 28% of people in South Africa with advanced HIV/AIDS were receiving anti-retroviral treatment (ART). In 2004, 2005 and 2006 the figures were 4%, 15% and 21% respectively.[3] By 2009, nearly 1 million or about 2% of all adult South Africans were receiving ART.[4]

In 2010, an estimated 280,000 South Africans died of HIV/AIDS. In the aughts, it is estimated that between 42% and 47% of all deaths among South Africans were HIV/AIDS deaths.[5] However, the Death Notification Forms Survey of 2010, which estimates a 93% completion rate, shows that out of a total of 543,856 deaths nationwide (Appendix C4), only 18,325 deaths were attributed to HIV/AIDS Diseases (B20-B24, Table 4.5). [6]

Although new infections among mature age groups in South Africa remain high, new infections among teenagers seem to be on the decline. HIV/AIDS prevalence figures in the 15–19 year age group for 2005, 2006 and 2007 were 16%, 14% and 13% respectively.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_South_Africa

Using 5 to 7 year old data proves what?

[quote author=lezz post=30534516][/quote]lol, so despite the fact that I posted citations which prove that we arent number 1 in Crime, Aids or any other of your allegations, your retort is to say that we are because YOU say so?

You clearly have some form of mental issue

Now, post citations to substantiate your claims.

Or

STFU

[quote author=lezz post=30529957][/quote]A looong post trying to talk around one simple fact:

South African companies dominate the Nigerian economy

Nigeria is part of our hegemony, you are our Economic B1tch

lezz:
I wasn't expecting you to agree. You will keep on adding your tears and flooding up your problems.

You say Nigerians are queuing up for asylum in Pretoria? I say you are being economical with the truth. Nigerians are the most entrepreneurial and mobile citizens of Africa so naturally with your redundant and docile black population in southafrica, we simply take what's yours until you are human and civilised enough to control it.
You can call that holding your jobs in trust.



Now when I was a young boy , my aunt used to work for the Nigerian embassy in southafrica and she told my engineer auncle how jobs are available after the fall of apartheid but many blacks are unqualified and unemployable. My uncle applied right from his living room in Nigeria and had offers flying in .lol . It's a true life story.
I do not dwell on emotions. I dwell on the truth.

South Africa is a grave yard filled with frustrated, drug sniffing and blame-trading citizens who like the Israelite after the desert wilderness are yearning for the days of apartheid.

"Its true because i say it is"

If nigerians are such cunning buisnessmen, why then are the majority of the top 50 biggest companies in Africa South African?

lezz:
I do not usually quote sources or rush to google. I blast you with facts learnt from my wide and extensive reading. That's just one proof the superiority of our educational system over yours.

I shall oblige you just once with a source :
Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master’s degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor’s degrees. http://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php.
Believe it or not the above facts is an except from a forum debating whether your southafrica is under curse. And the achievements of Nigeria at home and abroad was brought in as an evidence there is hope for Africa.

Now there shall be no more sources for you, nitwit slumy scum.

It is a known fact that over half of southafrican youths are school dropouts. 65 percent of your schools are without liberary.

After you were liberated by the rest of Africa in 1994 , you are still adapting to universal code of behaviour, education and urban civilization.

You are a thief when you quote me statistics of a few dutch settlement. The rest of southafrica are still years behind other Africans of western origin.

When apartheid was obliterated, west Africans filled up all job vacancies and teaching positions. You are still on the process of adopting to modern ways of living.


Now let me upload you into the 21st century, a town in southafrica is home to the 2nd biggest ghetto in the land of aliens, humans and spirits. Rats feed on human babies.

Over %68 of your puplic schools are without books and liberary. Majority of them have pit toilets.

Your xenophobic culture stems from your inability and low qualification to be employed in your own country and you unleaded terror on Zimbabweans, zambians, Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Africans who are more educated than you are.

All the cities built by the Anglo-dutch are under decay and rotting away bit by bit. You claim to generate so much power for electricity yet your cities are undergoing load shedding, hehehe.

Your companies are setting up shops in Nigeria and othet African countries to escape a harsh ANC government pplicie that empowers lazy, uneducated and drug sniffing soutgafricans to become shareholders and employees.

Spare me your stupid hogwash sources.

Southafrica is now the symble of the unfortunate stereotype that blacks always destroy and can't build.

Nigeria is helping to correct all these generalised stereotypes. Hang onto the moving train, Nigeria is taking you to the promised land where inferiority complex shall be addressed.

a long list of made-up facts and myths

Post citations or get out

lezz:
It's almost impossible arguing with little minded bushmen from southafrica. Especially you. Your first source was dated in 2013. In 2013, Nigeria was not yet the economic power house of Africa.

We bleeped you out of the waters in April 2014.

50 thousand murders takes place in jobourg yearly.

Put that with the statistics of southafrica being the ràpe capital of the world. No.2 homicide rate in the world.
HIV/AIDS capital of the world. this has infiltrated your economic and military albeit social lives.

Where did your life expectancy stats come from?. You're selling off figures from few cities of Anglo-dutch settlements of kleifontein and atonia(spell check, please). The rest of southie settlement of the bush tribes of Zulu and tswana are built with grass huts that could not hold erect a standing adult.
Your "modernised" Soweto still has gaping toilets in the open where human wastes are left in the open and a few decent toilets are under lock and key.


Bush men from Zulu and Tswana řäpë infants in a devilish, satanic, pre historic belief that it cures HIV. Whites females are open targets of räpe and molest. How is SA better to live in?

Nigeria with boko Barak is still far better than your disillusional southafrica.

If you have a teenage daughter, if you are white, you are an open target of řäp. armed robbery, and murder. And the savage black tribes can't stand each other.


Nigerians are the most educated people in America today. They are more educated than the whites, Asians and African Americans. 17% has their PhD,

Today, the world watches as the bushmen from Zulu and tswana, your tribes- men, tear down every company, economy, infrastructure and orderliness the anglo-dutch has built, and thy say you are CURSED!!!
Today apartheid villain, e Klerk is seen as a hero in south Africa because your black ANC government is worse than the apartheid days.
And as Bishop Desmond Tutu said : WE NEVER HAD IT THIS BAD EVEN DURING THE APARTHEID DAYS.

Southafrica is a living embarrassment to every black man that walk the earth.

You are quoting sources and stats that reflects one southafrica, that does not exist in your world of experience.

That's why the world is waiting for Nigeria, the beacon of hope for every black man, including you.

- 50 thousand murders in joburg yearly

15,000 in the whole of South Africa last year, and of those, half come from 13% of police districts (143 out of 1,127 police precincts)
https://africacheck.org/2013/09/19/where-murder-happens-in-sa/


So you were wrong there


- world rape capital

Not even in the top 10
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-countries-highest-rape-crime/


- No2 homicide rate in the world
Not even in the top 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


-HIV/AIDS capital
Try 4th
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

- Life expectancy
Its the official stats you clown, the average life span of the average South African

- People living in bush huts
South Africa is the 4th most urbanized country in Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_Africa#Postcolonial_period

- Soweto and toilets
74% of South Africans have access to "improved sanitation"
only 28% of Nigerians have access to such facilities
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ACSN

- How is South Africa better to live in?

Factually speaking, it is X55 better to live in. This is not open for debate.

- Nigerians better educated than Americans
First: citation please
Second: fact of the matter is that around 40% of the Nigerian population is completely illiterate.

Look, you can continue to post your emotionally charged posts and I can sit here all day and post fact after fact.

South Africa is superior to Nigeria in every conceivable measure.

Nigeria is an embarrassment to Africa and is the 17th most failed state in the world.

lezz:
you always play the victim card when you are cornered and out classed.

Your southafrica is no. 2 on continent. Stop squealing like a castrated pig and get used to it.


Stay on the sidelines and watch as events unfold. When power play is involved, southafrica can only be a ball boy in the field where Nigeria is playing.

How is South Africa number 2?

In which way?

notobs:
You Nairaland SA haters can hate Nigeria as much as you want, you are not going to stop us from taking our rightful position as the leader and first amongst African Nations. The US, UK and western media and their minions by the way are better than you guys, have been wedging this war for decades to no avail.

Nigerian economy is number one in Africa, population #1, business/entrepreneurial drive #1, military (real) not mercenary #1,billionaires #1, foreign direct investment in Africa #1, Remittance from Abroad to Africa #1etc and which ever aspect we haven't taken the #1 position we are about to in the next few years. And you haters cant do zit about it.

I just posted how all of that is hogwash

Let me do it again:

1. Business/entrepreneur
- 39 out of the 50 biggest companies in Africa are South African
- The biggest Nigerian company only comes in at the 34th spot on the table
http://www.theafricareport.com/top-500-companies-in-africa-2013.html


2. Military
-over 1700 pages on this forum say otherwise

3. Billionares
- You have 2
- We have 4

4. FDI
South Africa is the number 1 FDI destination in Africa, Nigeria is only 3rd
http://www.ey.com/GL/en/Newsroom/News-releases/News-foreign-direct-investment-in-sub-saharan-africa-on-the-rise

South Africa is the 13th most attractive destination in the world with actual inflows of $10 Billion per annum
http://www.bdlive.co.za/economy/2014/06/04/sa-jumps-two-places-on-fdi-index-but-more-is-needed

5. Remittance from abroad
People leaving your country is not a good sign - its a bad sign

But lets not stop there shall we?

Life Expectancy:
South African - 56 years
Nigeria - 52 years

Literacy rate:
South Africa -86%
Nigeria - 68%

Child mortality rate:
South Africa - 42.15
Nigeria - 72.97

Poverty Levels:
South Africa - 20.2%
Nigeria - 61%

Access to clean water
South Africa - 94%
Nigeria - 53%

Corruption Index ranking:
South Africa - 67th out of 175 countries
Nigeria - 136th out of 175 countries

Failed state rankings (the higher your score the better):
South Africa - 115th
Nigeria - 17th

Quality of life index (the higher the better):
South Africa - 110.92
Nigeria - 2.99
(Yes, its 55 times better to live in South Africa than it is to live in Nigeria)

Your country produces less than 3% of the power we do, despite your bigger economy your Government Revenues are 1/3 of ours, we are more free, more democratic.

Nigeria is not a black powerhouse, its a black outhouse, the sh1thole of Africa

lezz:
I thought there was only one southie school drop out. I forgot you are the chief dumbass here. I see, I sent you scurrying to google again.
You went and quoted a source that had the top 10 richest in Africa. You are as foolish as an ostrich.

Now tailor your lazy fingers to BBC, and a slave like you would know what's happening as of now.

Dongote is in 14 African countries already while glo, zenith, eco and a host of other firms and business scatter accross Africa. Anglo dutch companies hurried to Nigeria paying every and anything since 1994 to escape black savages and bushmen from becoming forced shareholders and running the company down.

You and your lots are still the white man's burden right there in your father land, you dripping , rustic savage douche-bag.

Buthurt, Soweto mouse.

The only butthurt one here is you

My post is matter of fact and laced with citations

Your post is dripping with emotion and has an astounding zero citations

I have made my point, the facts are clear and unassailable - South Africa is superior in all the criteria you listed

Thanks for playing

saengine:
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-37865/

WORLD CLASS SOUTH AFRICAN ENGINEERING

A-Darter missile heading for production

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/gripen_adarter.jpg

Denel's A-Darter air-to-air missile passed critical in-flight guided tests in recent weeks and production of this fifth-generation missile system is expected to start before the end of 2015.

Components for the missile are manufactured in both South Africa and Brazil and Denel Dynamics is the Original Equipment Manufacturer. Brazil has invested 300 million Reals (R1.3 billion) in the project, half of which has gone to Brazilian companies such as Mectron, Avibras and Optoelectronics, which have been working with Denel Dynamics on the project since 2006. One of Brazil's main reasons for becoming involved in the project is technology transfer and Brazilian engineers have been working closely with those in South Africa.

The A-Darter is aimed to be fitted to both Gripen and Hawk aircraft of the South African Air Force. There is also talk of integrating the infrared guided weapon onto Brazil's AMX aircraft. Brazil will initially buy a hundred missiles for its Gripens, as part of an initial production run of around 250 missiles


The missile's agility will enable it to handle close combat situations with ease and it also features lock-on after launch and memory tracking capabilities. Among its features are advanced digital processing capabilities to ensure improved performance in terms of image detection, false target rejection, electronic counter-counter-measures, guidance and control.

The Brazilian Air Force said the A-Darter is ten times more manoeuvrable than a fighter aircraft, able to perform manoeuvres that generate up to 100 g, whereas most modern fighter jets can only withstand around 9 g. Measuring 2.98 meters in length and weighing 90 kg, the new missile is notable because of the absence of the small forward wings used for control - instead the A-Darter is able to direct the thrust of its rocket engine. Maximum range is 12 kilometres, according to the Brazilian Air Force.


"Heat-seeking, the A-Darter has a guidance system so sensitive that just after firing it can make a sharp turn and hit targets that are chasing the launcher plane. Today, fourth generation missiles can hit targets that are, at best, next to the launcher plane. The guidance sensor can also 'see' more of the infrared frequency band, and thereby avoid being fooled by flares - incandescent bait thrown to confuse missiles," Tavares said.


After the successful A-Darter project, Brazil and South Africa plan to further cooperate in missile development, notably on the 100 km range Marlin radar-guided air-to-air weapon, which will be developed into an all-weather surface-to-air missile (SAM) that can be used by the South African and Brazilian Navies



Article was edited for shorter reading. And to that fool on this forum who says the Badger IFV is obsolete because the basic concept/idea was first thought of in 1997.....A Darter was first conceptualized in 1995. And is now one of the best short range air-air missiles you'll find anywhere in the solar system. Like i told you fool, we design and optimize for FUTURE requirements

Brazil is buying 100
Production run is 250

I guess SAAF is getting 150 new missiles

agaugust:
[size=16pt]If this forum becomes stale and a thread of distorted information with envy over-ruling facts and common sense, I am out until sanity returns, you Southies want to post rubbish and lies.....go on, you may just soon be the only ones left here as it becomes a pointless waste of time and intellect. [/size]

I guess he is sulking again

lezz:
it is my pleasure and for your horror that I inform you that the quest to sign a defence pact with Nigeria dated back to Mbeki.

We lead in economy, population, military, billionaires, IT, investment hub, telecominication, democracy, religion, dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry etc.

Economy - not most advanced, not biggest PP

Population - and so? Population is a curse, not a blessing

Military - 1780 pages say otherwise

Billionaires - Egypt leads Africa with 7, followed by RSA with 4 and Nigeria with only 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires

IT- [citation needed]

Telecom's - yeah totally, thats why South African firms dominate your market, also, consult the attached map for mobile coverage (pic 1)
- South Africa has Africa's 6th fastest internet connections (despite our Geographic disadvantage) and Nigeria 8th
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/04/africas-top-ten-countries-with-fastest-internet-speeds/

Investment HUB - And yet Johannesburg South Africa remains the investment and financial capital of Africa and ranks amongst cities like Zurich, Hong-Kong and Shanghai
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/204556

Democracy - South Africa is the 71st most democractic country in the world, Nigeria is only the 104th
http://democracyranking.org/?page_id=14

Religion - We have ZERO religious wars, you are in the middle of one.

"dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry" - and yet our companies dominate your markets

Clown

agaugust:
Reason why this thread goes stale and becomes less educative, more of a mess up created by you Southies.

Same reason why I said ALL South Africans are sad because Nigeria is winning her war and you want to ruin this forum in envy.

That is a CLEARLY a young guy Nigerian army Naija soldier posing after victory in photo with his enemy Bokos killed in hundreds dead !

Where do you see Chadian, Nigerieens, and Cameroonians in this photo of the battle zone? Please light more candles so you can see clearly
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Or maybe that is a Nigerian soldier standing infront of Nigerian civilians killed by BH

Maybe its a Nigerian soldier standing infront of Nigerian civilians killed by the Nigerian Army

Maybe, maybe, maybe...

agaugust:
News report clearly says MNTJF was on the ground, the Boko leader was killed form the air.

Multi National task Force don't pilot NAF helicopter gunship, Nigerian pilots fly it, so Boko Top Commander killed by NAF.....you dummy !

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Air Hinds the only way that people can be killed?

Chad has two Hinds

agaugust:
Foool

You move half of Nigerian army into 6 states and expose the remaining 30 states to infiltration by insurgents. Garrison is a standard universal militray strategy, you cover all your land.

Boko Haram has no uniform, they wear civilian clothes 99%. You can outnumber them but you cannot identify most of them the way they can identify Nigerian army uniforms, you don't know want COIN war means. LOL.

Anyway its 30,000 men on both sides so we don't outnumber them in NE war zone.

Chad and Cameroon have to enter Nigeria for their own good or else they will be in danger once Bokos cross border, see what Bokos did to Cameroonian civilians today, ran from Nigerian town Gamborou, entered Cameroonian town Fotokol and began slicing the throats of innocent women and children with knives.

If Chad and Cameroon refuses to fight inside Nigeria, they will have Bokos spreading out like water floods inside their countries and blood will flow there! The Chadians you are praising are not helping Nigeria, they are helping themselves from becoming the new victims.

If they want to chase away killers from Zimbabwe and you were informed to cross Zimbabwean border and block them from entering South Africa in anger, will you say no.....let the killers enter inside South Africa first and spread around, then we will be looking for them to fight them?

Whichever way you guys think and write rubbish on this forum, all intelligent military officers around the world have agreed that the best way to crush 30,000 insurgents is to move against them from all borders and squeeze them into the centre.

These 3 African countries have used the best military strategy in the world, and the future generation of West and Central Africans will thank them for it.

Who cares about the senseless opinion of Southies of Nairaland? We talking about winning a war for Africa against terrorism that even NATO super powers failed to defeat in Afghanistan after 13 years of hi-tech firepower war by USA and UK against Taliban
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nonsense and delusions

1. Are you saying that your entire country is so unstable that if you dont garrison every province insurrections will start?

2. Boko Haram hide amongst civilians? Do APC's, tanks, artillery, MRAPs look civilian to you? You are no longer fighting a COIN war - you are now fighting LICW

3. There are no current or credible estimates of Boko Haram numbers

4. Yes they do have to enter Nigeria for their own good - but the difference is that they have tasted only victory whereas you have mainly tasted defeat

5. We would patrol our border, let Zimbabweans deal with Zimbabwean problems

6. Which military officers agreed this? You?

7. Again, NATO did not fail in Afghanistan. They completed their COIN program, they built a nation and an indigenous Army who now has to hold it. The Taliban have never won a battle and hold only 4 out of 300 districts.

lezz:
In the 1800's you and your lots were in trees and caves as resident savages.

I'll come birch-slap you if you tell white lies again.

In the 1800s whites were busy conqouring the world

Jackass

agaugust:
Use google, fool !

"The Iraqi T-72s performed well against opposing Iranian tanks such as Chieftains and Pattons in the Iran–Iraq war. In the early stages of the war, an Iraqi battalion of T-72 tanks faced an Iranian battalion of Chieftain tanks. During the battle all Iranian tanks were destroyed, while the Iraqis suffered no losses. Iraqi T-72 had great success in the battle for Basra and the last stages of the war. 105mm M68 tank guns and TOW missiles proved ineffective against the frontal armor of Iraqi T-72s.[54][55] 60 T-72 tanks were lost during the eight years of war.[56][57] According to Iranians and Iraqis, the T-72 was the most feared tank of the Iran–Iraq War.

Kuwaiti Chieftains participated in the 1990 Iraq–Kuwait War. The Kuwaiti 35th Armored Brigade fought at the Battle of the Bridges against elements of the Iraqi Hammurabi and Medina divisions before withdrawing over the Saudi border[14] 136 Kuwaiti Chieftains were lost. Only 7 tanks managed to survive the war with Iraq."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chieftain_tank
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You have said many times that wiki is not a valid source, why do you contradict yourself now? Is it only valid when it suits you?

agaugust:
No sale of T-72 tanks from South Africa to Algeria on any arms transfer log. Algeria bought T-72 tanks from Russia and Ukraine.

Show us your source of South Africa selling T-72 tanks to ANY country in this world ! Show us arms transfer log evidence ! Fraudster !
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I just posted video evidence - are you blind?

agaugust:
Bwahahaha

He demolished every South African with that post !

Can't you see he had two sources? Voice Of America included, with full photo, names, rank, and I.D. of the official source of that beautiful press release to world media from Defence Head Quaters.

Oh Chad saving Nigeria, Chad invading Nigeria, Chad be praised like Super power....blah bleh bubble gibber gibberish statements flowing from frustrated laptops under candle light in load shedding South Africa

Nigerian army is commanding all joint mutinational operations including Chad's aircraft flown by mercenary pilots from Ukraine, so we are the boss in this final offensive against Boko Haram....Southies ashamed and their hearts are melting now in Johannesburg along with their candle wax dripping on battery powered laptops as they browse with low megabytes of data with zero megawatts of electricity...candles all the way Mandela boys....watch the VOA news online and see Nigerian army commanding Chadian army like our new students !

http://m.voanews.com/a/nigerian-official-says-military-maintains-control-despite-insurgency/2625690.html

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Where does it say that you command them?

Augustus... why the candle jokes? You do know that 90 million Nigerians have never seen a lightbuld in their lives? That your country produces less than 3% of the power we do?

90 million Nigerian who still live like we did in the 1800's

agaugust:
The white man's report was false, helicopters hardly ever bomb, they rocket, does Rooivalk helicopter carry bombs? Helicopters with bombs are rare. A bomb run brings them too close, too slow and become exposed to enemy AAA.

The foreign media wanted to deliberately praise Chad over Nigeria and in the process made himself a foolish white man who says helicopters were dropping bombs....he is just as foolish and fraudulent as you

Double fools tag team
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Rocket pods are clearly visible on those Chadian helos in the 1st pic

agaugust:
T-72 tanks destroyed their British contemporary tank, the Chieftain tanks.

Iran-Iraq war, T-72 won the tank battles destroying battalions, not dozens, I mean battalions of Chieftain tanks.

1990 Gulf war, Iraqi T-72 tanks destroyed Kuwaiti Chieftain tanks again in large numbers.

Show me a tank battle where any American/European made 2nd generation tank deafeated T-72, show me !
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citations needed