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johnw47:
i didn't say i want to see Him fly in the clouds
see how you add lies

johnw47:
you take truth as insult

but truly you are a laughing fool:

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

Ken4Christ:
It's true that there are so many anti Christ that has been operating on earth and there are still many more even on this forum. But Jesus is taking about a specific anti Christ who is revealed as the first beast in Revelation 13. He will rule in a confederalism of ten European countries and dominate the world for seven years.

Jesus has been coming and returning but I am talking about his visible return when he comes to establish his kingdom on earth and reign for 1,000 years.

When he ascended back, the angels told those who saw him;

Acts 1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Well, I don't blame your generation of Christians. I blame ministers who have turned churches into business centers. Instead of teaching and preaching the undiluted word of God, they focus on whatever they can do to get the crowd most of which don't know the Lord or his ways.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

take the hint dope, i'm not going to continue conversation with fool,

johnw47:
you are a laughing fool

johnw47:
the generation that shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled
is the generation that's alive at the time of all the things happening that Jesus spoke of

this generation alive today might be that generation:

(wars and rumors of wars, famines and earthquakes, Many false prophets will arise,
lawlessness is increased, love will grow cold, etc.)




Jesus didn't come in power after his resurrection, like He is going to

He will come in power when he comes with His angels and has the devil
bound a thousand years, and has the beast and false prophet thrown into the lake of fire,
destroys the armys of the world gathered at Jerusalem, and He reigns on earth for a millinium

and of course three days after Jesus was executed, He rose from the dead

He wasn't seen coming on the clouds of the sky which happens at Jesus second coming:

Mat 24:30  And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.

Ken4Christ:
Are you saying that the anti Christ has come because it was part of the prophecy?

Are you saying that Jesus has returned

because he said his return shall be visible just like the sun that rises and sets?

Are you saying that the elect has been raptured?

Are you saying that every nation is walking in hatred toward Israel?

The prophecies Christ gave were many and he said they will witness them all.

Let's stop twisting the scripture just to win an argument.

The prophecies failed because of the plan God has for us the Gentiles which he hid from Christ at that time.

johnw47:
Jesus didn't come in power after his resurrection

but he will come in power when he comes with His angels

and has the devil
bound a thousand years, and has the beast and false prophet thrown into the lake of fire,
destroys the armys of the world gathered at Jerusalem, and He reigns on earth for a millinium

Writers1:
Hello brothers and sisters, this is to remind us all that our Lord Jesus Christ is still coming. Don't relent, keep faith in position.

Ken4Christ:
This is an excerpt from my Daily Devotional Study - Rhema for Living Devotional

Feel free to make your points known but with scripture references.

Thursday, December 8th.

Why Two Prophecies of Jesus Were Unfulfilled - 1.

"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."(Matthew 16:27-28).

Our Lord Jesus gave two prophecies that were unfulfilled with regards to the time frame they were supposed to happen. First of all, it's important to note here that our Lord Jesus didn't operate as God on earth even though he is fully God in human flesh. He functioned as man on earth. This was why he had to be anointed by the Holy Spirit to carry out his ministry.

So, as man, he didn't know all things. The prophecy he gave as contained in the opening text was with clarity of terms. He said that some of his audience standing with him will not taste death till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Jesus is yet to come as foretold but that generation are long dead. Now, the question is, why wasn't it fulfilled as spoken?

It's because of the present church age which was still a mystery at that time. The word mystery in this context means hidden secret. Before the death of Christ, salvation was only for the Jews because they were the only nation on earth in covenant relationship with God. At that time, the Gentiles had no covenant with God - Ephesians 2:12. So, salvation was not yet extended to the Gentiles. This is why Jesus instructed his disciples when he sent them out to preach; "... Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL." (Matthew 10:5-6).

On another occasion, he said to the Canaanite woman who requested him to heal her daughter; "... I am not sent BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL."(Matthew 15:24). Salvation extended to the Gentiles after his death when the children of Israel rejected him as their Messiah. Thus, it is written; "He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." (John 1:11-12).

So, if not for the opportunity given to the Gentiles which constitutes the present day church, the prophecy would have been fulfilled within the specified time frame. Isreal as a nation is partially blind with respect to the salvation Jesus brought. The blindness will only be removed when God is through the Gentiles - Romans 11:25-26. We will look at the second prophecy tomorrow.

Prayer: Heavenly Father, I thank you for the opportunity given to me to be a part of your kingdom. I am your son and an heir of your kingdom. Fill me with joy and peace as I look forward to the glorious return of our Lord Jesus in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.
Further Study: Ephesians 3:4-6, Romans 11:15-24.




Friday, December 9th.

Why Two Prophecies of Jesus Were Unfulfilled - 2.

"So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, till all these things be fulfilled." (Matthew 24:33-34).

On an occasion when Jesus and his disciples left the temple, his disciples drew his attention of Jesus to the temple. And Jesus responded by predicting the destruction of the temple. This prompted the disciples to ask him three questions. The first was, when will the destruction take place. The second is the sign of his coming. The last is when will this present world (age) end.

Our Lord Jesus immediately began to foretell the events of the further in chronological order. Notable amongst the predictions are; wars and rumours of war, famine and earthquakes in divers places. Furthermore, he said false prophets and teachers will arise and they will be hated by all nations which will result in their persecutions.

In addition, he predicted that the abomination of desolation that Daniel spoke about will stand in the holy place. The abomination is the image of the anti Christ that the false Christ who they will accept as their Messiah will erect in the temple of God. And everyone on earth will be forced to worship that image.

The Jews because of their adherent to the Law of Moses which forbids the worship of any other gods will refuse to worship this image. This will result in their persecution. And they will pass through a great tribulation, a kind that has never happened in the history of the world.

At the end of the great tribulation period, Jesus will come back and the elect (144,000 Jews) will first be raptured. He will defeat the anti Christ and the false Christ who are revealed as the first and second beast respectively in Revelation, chapter 13.

The crux of the narration of this event was the prediction that the generation he was addressing with witness all these events. But that generation is gone and most of the events are yet to be fulfilled. This is because of the church age which was a mystery at that time. God, the Father hid this mystery even from his Son, Jesus at that time. This is why the prediction in Matthew, Chapter 24 didn't include the church. It's about the nation of Israel. The mystery was unveiled after the resurrection of Jesus.

But after the rapture of the church, the events will all be fulfilled. The anti Christ will come and reign in a revived and revised Roman Empire. It will be a confederalism of ten European Countries. And it will be the new world power. He will only reign for seven years. The last three and a half years will be the period of great tribulation. But at the end of the seven years, Jesus will come back, defeat them and establish his millennium reign on earth. The faithful saints will be given various responsibilities and leadership over nations. We will reign with Christ on earth for 1,000 years.

Prayer: Dear Father, I thank you for the great plans you have for us as unveiled in your word. A plan that will be consummated at the appearance of our Lord Jesus. I pray that I will be counted worthy to reign with Christ when he comes to establish his kingdom on earth in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Further Study: Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13:1-18; 19:11-21.

TenQ:
The closest description of trinity is you as a human being.
1. Your Body is You:
The function of your body is to interact with the physical realm.

Your parents and friends know you by your Physical Identity
2. Your Soul is You:
Your soul is the one you identify as I, Me, Myself. The function of your soul is to express your Personal Identity. Your Will, Intellect and your Emotions reside in your soul.

You know yourself by your Personal Identity

3. Your Spirit is You:
The function of your spirit is to interact with the spiritual world. You are a spirit therefore in God's image.

God and the rest of spiritual beings know you by your spirit.


Each one of these three represent you in THREE DIMENSIONS!

DREAMHOMES6970:
So many times I hear pastors in different churches tell their members to quit any job that would not give them time to attend church services, expecially Sunday service. I know it's very good for brethren to always come together to worship, but judging from how the economy is right now and how demanding most employers are who would want you to put in extra hours and some organization like restaurants and malls whom Sundays are one of their important days, I feel it will be difficult for some of the employees to attend weekly service and for some the compulsory Sunday service. And my question is should they quit their jobs as demanded by their pastors and devote their time to church since their job doesn't give them time for church programs. Because if that is the case, in so many of these mega churches in Nigeria, I see casual workers like the janitors and security men working on Sundays in the churches. And am like shouldn't this people also be in church listening to the word of God or is salvation segregated?

Please what's ur take?

Righteousness2:
Any job that completely removes from the House of GOD is a Death trap.
No matter how lucrative it is, it is trap from the devil that will consume and Destroy you.

Osamabinladenik:
Lol, you guys always have a way to defend you silly Bible stories

Workch:
If the Genesis story is literally true, then evolution (and almost everything else about science) is wrong. Simple.

However, even the Catholic Pope doesn’t believe that the Adam & Eve story is literally true. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

And we know that microwave ovens work, mobile phones work and satellite GPS works, so not everything about science is wrong.

That leaves you with interpreting the Adam & Eve story as an allegory (for something) or as a method that the people of that time used to convey religious and cultural values.

It doesn’t make sense on any level to me, but I accept that others find meaning there.

Assume that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth and that they were of the same race. Their continued offspring would have had to evolve into all the different ethnic people of the world and this is hard to fault because otherwise there would not be such a variety of humans around the world. That is, evolution would have had to take place for the changes to occur. If that part of evolution is accepted why not the whole of evolution from primitive life to successively more complex life? Adam was possibly a complex molecule, which had not yet triggered into life.

The Bible, Tora and Qur’an does not say this, however. God made Adam in his own image, a fully modern human being. These books are wrong.

You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.

Hoodrat:
They didnt treat you right so what makes you think they thought you right?? All you Pentecostal black christian, baptist redeem, deeper life , winners chapel etc all of you need to be ashamed of yourself! every last one of you, men women boys and girls.

This are your christians that thought you the good news in jesus, this is what they did to your ancestors. God is good all the time praise white jesus.

Interesting15:
I don't experience idleness, hopelessness, and helplessness. I've never been stranded in my life.

KunleOshob:
Most people, including the pulpit-controlled flocks, believe that this concept is a well-defined and specifically mandated pre-condition required for salvation, which is found in scripture and must be achieved before death. They are correct on one point; it is well-defined, but definitely confused, in assuming that this must be accomplished before death in order to receive salvation. The orthodox view is quite simple. If you accept Jesus as your saviour, you are born again. Of course, you don't just disappear, but remain in your physical body and change after death, or when Jesus returns and raptures those fortunate enough to have made that choice.
       It is very difficult to imagine how a Christian can believe one can be born again in this life, just from the lack of logic in the phrase itself. How can one be reborn? The Bible also poses this perplexing question, and answers it, yet those promoting this concept ignore that answer completely. It takes no great effort to find exactly what "born again" means. The phrase only appears three times in scripture. A man, named Nicodemus, once asked the expert in this matter about this concept, and the transcript of that query can be found in John 3:3-8. This is how the event unfolded:
♦ Jesus said "I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
♦ Nicodemus, obviously confused by his declaration, then asked "How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"
♦ Jesus then answered "I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
♦ And to reinforce the reality of his point, he then added "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."
       Ok, that seems pretty simple. We all know the concept of spirit and the Bible is clear as to the meaning. The word spirit in the phrase "Spirit is spirit" is translated from the Greek word pneuma, pronounced pnyoo'-mah, meaning; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze. This certainly agrees with the widely accepted understanding of what spirit means. And, we can see that Jesus clearly describes the nature of "spirit" by using wind as an analogy. It should be noted that the word "tell" in the phrase "but canst not tell whence it cometh" comes from the word eido, pronounced i'-do and means; properly, to see (literally or figuratively).
       So, Jesus is saying the spirit is like the wind; it goes where it does and you can hear it, but you cannot see it. In the simplest of terms; the spirit is invisible. Nothing complicated about that. Jesus simply says that "every one that is born of the Spirit" is like the wind, which you can't see or, therefore, is invisible. Jesus first said that spirit is "not" like flesh, the prime physical component of the human body, which can be seen, and then clearly confirms that anyone, who is "born again" is not flesh, but spirit.


    The above post is NOT my original writing but it makes a whole lot of sense, thought i should share it.
Can anybody explain the part that says one must be born of water

KunleOshob:
Most people, including the pulpit-controlled flocks, believe that this concept is a well-defined and specifically mandated pre-condition required for salvation, which is found in scripture and must be achieved before death. They are correct on one point; it is well-defined, but definitely confused, in assuming that this must be accomplished before death in order to receive salvation. The orthodox view is quite simple. If you accept Jesus as your saviour, you are born again. Of course, you don't just disappear, but remain in your physical body and change after death, or when Jesus returns and raptures those fortunate enough to have made that choice.
       It is very difficult to imagine how a Christian can believe one can be born again in this life, just from the lack of logic in the phrase itself. How can one be reborn? The Bible also poses this perplexing question, and answers it, yet those promoting this concept ignore that answer completely. It takes no great effort to find exactly what "born again" means. The phrase only appears three times in scripture. A man, named Nicodemus, once asked the expert in this matter about this concept, and the transcript of that query can be found in John 3:3-8. This is how the event unfolded:
♦ Jesus said "I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
♦ Nicodemus, obviously confused by his declaration, then asked "How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"
♦ Jesus then answered "I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
♦ And to reinforce the reality of his point, he then added "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."
       Ok, that seems pretty simple. We all know the concept of spirit and the Bible is clear as to the meaning. The word spirit in the phrase "Spirit is spirit" is translated from the Greek word pneuma, pronounced pnyoo'-mah, meaning; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze. This certainly agrees with the widely accepted understanding of what spirit means. And, we can see that Jesus clearly describes the nature of "spirit" by using wind as an analogy. It should be noted that the word "tell" in the phrase "but canst not tell whence it cometh" comes from the word eido, pronounced i'-do and means; properly, to see (literally or figuratively).
       So, Jesus is saying the spirit is like the wind; it goes where it does and you can hear it, but you cannot see it. In the simplest of terms; the spirit is invisible. Nothing complicated about that. Jesus simply says that "every one that is born of the Spirit" is like the wind, which you can't see or, therefore, is invisible. Jesus first said that spirit is "not" like flesh, the prime physical component of the human body, which can be seen, and then clearly confirms that anyone, who is "born again" is not flesh, but spirit.


    The above post is NOT my original writing but it makes a whole lot of sense, thought i should share it.
Can anybody explain the part that says one must be born of water

saintokwuluora:
My brother don't confuse yourself if you believe the prophecy of Daniel, then you must as well believe the prophecy of Jesus Christ who said the day the trumpet sounds both the living and the dead that are in him will be transformed into immortality to meet him in the air.

Jvas:
Trumpet will sound eventually, though one should be much concern about when he/she will leave this world irrespective of trumpet or no trumpet

Mercury12:
What part of the Bible told you that?

drizzymtbee:
The prophecy didn't have any timeline

The trumpet will surely sound

...nobody knew about the time Jesus would be born..even many of the jews didn't believe in him...

castiello:
I disagree with you

someday the earth as we know it will come to an end either mystically or Catastrophically,

if during our time scientist are witnessing the destruction of other planets in the cosmos it’s a matter of time the destruction of earth is eminent everything that has a beginning must have an end law of nature

Hoodrat:
Those that thought you December 25 was Christ birthday

are your oppressor, you never had a mind of your own to come to this conclusion! in short a learned habit has became your norm hence with facts and evidence presented you still can not let go of the burden of men.

⚒�Baruch 4:6 Ye were sold to the nations, not for your destruction: but because ye moved God to wrath, ye were delivered unto the enemies.
⚒�Baruch 4:7 For ye provoked him that made you by sacrificing unto devils, and not to God.