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Nayah:
The father has talked! you see op, violence involves violence self control is the key

You are so correct, self control is the key indeed. When you sense the situation is getting out of hand, leave the scene to collect your senses.

I wonder how many guys on here  claiming to be more holy than the Pope have not slapped a woman INDIRECTLY, by cheating on her. Most women will tell you that being cheated on is like a slap in the face. Let me say AGAIN for the record, I dont agree to it at all, I also have a daughter and would hate to see anyone put their hands on her, Im just saying DONT BE TO QUICK TO JUDGE.

I really dont know if its that black and white as some things are shades of grey. Of course any well meaning man will say, its not a good thing to be physical with woman and I agree, but everyone has their limits believe me. As the solicitor pointed out some one could be provoked to the extent that at [b]THAT MOMENT [/b]he is no longer rational. It just so happens that we are talkning about a man/woman relationship, but why do you see well manner guys scrap. The following story will illustrate what I mean. A good friend of ours had a falling out with his wife. he didnt hit her but lets say things got heated and there was a lot of pushing, but nothing major. When we got their, I tried to calm the situation, whilst some other friend who came along thought it best to start preaching. There is no reason, bla bla bla. I was telling this guy I agree, but that he shouldnt be to quick to judge. He had a American girlfriend who chimed in. A real man doesnt do that, in the US they would lock him up etc etc you get the picture. And then she uttered something that took us all a back, even the quarrrelling couple. She said, it may be that the African culture is one that is so low that allows this. Wow. I said to her that I dont see this particular issue as an abusive husband but simple a misunderstanding that got out of control. Even my wifes friend confirmed that her husban doenst abuse her. But that didnt stop our US lady. She said that she had trained our boy well   to the levels of US standards and that he better not try that. I could see my boy was fuming. Before we knew it, they started having an argument. We were trying to calm them down, words were exchanged and the US lady uttered something like if you dont like the way we live her go back to you uncivilasied jungle. Guys it was like a Mission Impossible film. It all went in slow motion. Before we could say anything I saw my friend release a slap that could have awoken the dead. To make a long story short, comotion broke out. After some hours the scene eased. While we were in the car, my friend was really quite, I mean mouse still. About 20 minutes into the ride he said he felt so ashamed, but I just lost it when she insulted my roots. I kept quite and repeated his words : There is no reason why a man should, but before I finsihed he started laughing. So you see its not always black and white.

If this is true, then Dbanj shouldnt be surprised that the deals favours the producer. IT ALWATS HAS! Producers make more money than the singers. The singers get the glamour and fame and the producers get paid WAY BETTER! He most likely overlooked this fact since in 9ja, most people dont buy most of the music but get it free. So most of the money is made by perfomance where the artist gets paid upfront and has to settle those who wrote the music he will sing. The 9ja radio stations will also pay quite limited royalties for spins. BUT, across the ocean, its a whole new ball game. Music royalties are are traked by publishers, so the owner, writer etc (ie D Jazzy) will get paid major. Even when he co-writes a song an album such as Beyonce, thats bank. Why, he gets paid everytime that album sells. If that album wins a award, he gets it too, if they do a best ever hit album he gets paid. Commercials, jingles etc etc. I heard he also co-wrote something for JZ and is working on their upcoming album. So Im not surprised that he is not interested in writing for ONLY Dbanj. His eyes have opened to the world of music publishing. Also if Im not mistaken, Mo Hits is under the Good Music imprint so, guess who Good Music needs to settle YOU GUESSED it the writer and who is that D JAZZY. If Im not mistaken, D JAZZY also owns the label so he is getting paid major. Truth is that I dont think DBanj had much say in the transaction. It was Mo -Hits that signed and he is only, (I know his fans may take thsi wrongly by saying only) one of the singers on the roster, though he make be the star. Now you know why some stars end up broke after selling so many records etc, truth is the writers and producers made the money. Even the great Micheal Jackson in his hay day only got 25% of all sales, which back then was huge, guess who got the other 75%. Yep, the label and the writers. FYI, I have been involved in music publsihing for more than 15 years so I know how this works. I also own a music publishing company. Later.

mykejones:
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Hard as it may seem to us, the truth needs be told.
I remembered our judiciary tried dis same man in Asaba and found him nt quilty.
If d British government now prooved otherwise,why shd dey return 2 us what, in d first place,denied ever existed?
And if returnd,who gets it?
Trust my Nigerian government,they'l probably SET a COMMITEE 2 look into it. Set another commitee to oversee d first commitee,and den set another commitee to probe d first two. And before the money finally gets to it's destinatn,about half of it is gone.
Abeg,to safe us all this wahala, let dem keep it! Afteral,we r safe wt wat we don't know. No b so?

No need, they will pull an IBRU and give him 6 months. Funny she stole more than 10 times that amount (approx USD 2 BN) and got away with it. Who says crime doesnt pay.

An the biggest shame is not Ibori believe it or not, BUT the Nigerian government that was unable and unwilling to persecute him whilst a foreign l and is doing so. You know there is a saying, if you mama say you wowo, name me go tell you say you fine. A real pity SMH.

Here is good one that should be on JAMB every year.

If a nigerian politicial tells you that he will create 10,000 jobs but will need to invest NGN 1 trl of national funds to do so:
1) how much will he and his family have at the end of the investment? 2) How many jobs will be created at the end of the investment?

I warn you. Its been proven that only those that have studied applied math or who hold the Nigerian citizenship can solve this brain cracker. You give up? Answer 1) NGN 1trl 2) ZERO

There is a saying that goes, you can also kill a fly with an elephant gun, but you can also use a swatter. The thought behind it, is that one shouldnt be blinded by the intention, but should take the ramifications of such also into consideration. In both cases the fly dies, but in the former, you can imagine the damage to the surroundings, but o well the fly died right.

I think that any well minded Nigerian with no political inclinations is aware of the issues of fuel subsidy. That its removal, be it partial has its advantages is well understood, though Id like to remind everyone that most petrol producing countries (US, Venezuela, Gulf Countries) actually give their citizens rebate, I mean why not, its on their turf. Pretty silly that a product you produce costs you more to use it than elsewhere, but thats a moral question. We have been able to sustain this because of one word which we all know, ALL TOGETHER: CORRUPTION. Thats the main issue. The government created these loopholes because then they could use these inefficiencies to fill the lining of their pockets. I have lots of respect for Dr. Iweala, but was she the first to see that we borrow to maintain the subsidy? Of course not, so all those before her saw this trend too.

That she has good intentions is without a doubt, but I wonder if the method of implementation is just and fair for the masses, who once again will suffer. They suffered under the subsidy and will suffer now that its gone. Why not:

1) Educate the masses by carrying out campaigns to explain to them whats going on. I can tell you my elders in the village may have NO IDEA what the advantages are.

2) Why not phase it out in say 5 years time. I mean it has been there for donkey years, I dont think that if we dont implement now we are doomed.

Now what will happen, students can go to school, traders will have issues, and the list goes on. This will lead to mega inflation of which the masses were already having problems making ends meet. Are these politicians so far away from the masses that they dont see how they live. How can anyone survive on NGN 18K.

Its not always an issue of negligence on the part of the person, but it can be many things including keeping ones mouth closed for a long period, excessive coffee etc. The solution is very simple and is trusted and true by yours trully. Simply have mints available, offer the guilty party one as you pop one in your mouth . They will either get the message immediatly or not want to turn away your offer/gesture since you just popped one to. Its almost like seeing someone drinking may make you thirsty.

If this doesnt work, then make like a deep sea diver and inhale and hold your breathe taking in air when the coast is clear  .

werepeLeri:
Nigerians are potentially corrupt with corrupt, evil, and bizarre tendencies- they dont want to work on their individual correctness, but they want the government to be corruption free. How is that possible?

Every Nigerian is potentially corrupt and that is why I say it often that the problem of Nigeria doesnt lie at the foot of politicians but on the shoulder of every Nigerian. Beleive it or not.

You will wait till eternity if you think a man will rule this country and wipe out corruption. Not even Buhari, Ribadu or whoever you call him will ever do it unless each person decided to do it.

Even you check it- is it politicians that sit in offices and look forward to bribes before getting things done? Nope. Go to the hospitals, the nurses look for money to exchange hands to do their duties- go to the post offices, go to the government offices. Come on. When will all that be removed? My answer is never. It will not take GEJ, it will not take OBJ, it will take each our individual self.

How many of the people who shout here on Nairaland go to their offices daily and getting bribed to do their work. Many.

Stop reading mind and putting it in print before asking my permission

Detectives on Friday questioned the man suspected of losing $2 billion (1.46 billion euro) at Swiss bank UBS as industry figures wondered how such huge unauthorised trading could have been allowed.

Kweku Adoboli, a 31-year-old equities trader and the son of a retired Ghanaian United Nations official, remained in custody for a second day as police and bank officials tried to unpick a complex web of trades.

The massive losses he built up could force UBS to reduce the size of its investment banking unit and carry out sweeping job cuts, according to reports in Switzerland.

Thousands of jobs could be slashed from the bank's global workforce of 65,000, newspapers said.

Having plummeted by more than 10 percent when the losses were revealed on Thursday, shares in UBS rallied in early trading on Friday, rising more than 2.5 percent to 10.01 Swiss francs at 0700 GMT.

A picture of Adoboli emerged as a fiercely ambitious man who often worked nights in the office but masked the pressures of his job with an amiable personality and a penchant for parties at his trendy bachelor flat.

Adoboli was born in Africa but educated at a £20,000-per-year ($31,500) boarding school in Yorkshire, northern England, where he was head boy.

He graduated from the University of Nottingham in central England with a degree in e-commerce and digital business in 2003.

According to the Financial Services Authority (FSA) watchdog, he joined UBS in 2006 as a trainee investment adviser.

The trader's family said they were "heartbroken" over his arrest.

"From what the reports are saying, it could be that he made a mistake or wrongful judgment," said his father John Adoboli, a former UN staff officer who lives in the port city of Tema in Ghana.

"The family is heartbroken because fraud is not our way of life," he added. "I brought them up to be God-fearing and to appreciate decency."

Adoboli reportedly accumulated unsustainable losses on betting on share prices and currency exchange rates at a time of turbulence on world markets.

The Times reported that he had lost heavily after the Swiss Central Bank's decision last week to devalue the Swiss currency.

In a clue to the mounting losses, he is said to have posted "I need a miracle" on his Facebook page last week.

The arrest comes three years after trader Jerome Kerviel ran up losses of 4.9 billion euros at French bank Societe Generale through a similar type of trading to the transactions in which Adoboli specialised.

Senior bankers at UBS learned of the losses on Wednesday and lawyers and managers grilled Adoboli at the bank's building near Liverpool Street station in the heart of the City of London financial district, several reports said.

Police were called in when it became clear the breach was more serious.

Many figures in the banking world were surprised that UBS had failed to notice the huge losses.

Manoj Ladwa, a senior trader at ETX Capital, told AFP: "The problem is within UBS because their risk management systems weren't quick enough to pick up that this trader had built very big positions within a very short period of time.

"There should have been limits in place.

"The systems, can vary quite considerably from bank to bank and it's something that the senior staff over at UBS will be addressing over the next few weeks and the next few months."

Following the arrest, ratings agency Moody's said it was considering lowering UBS's credit rating.

Moody's said its review of the rating will focus on "ongoing weaknesses in the group's risk management and controls that have become evident again."

While the losses may be manageable, they "call into question the group's ability to successfully complete the rebuilding of its investment banking operations," the rating agency said.

Detectives on Friday questioned the man suspected of losing $2 billion (1.46 billion euro) at Swiss bank UBS as industry figures wondered how such huge unauthorised trading could have been allowed.

Kweku Adoboli, a 31-year-old equities trader and the son of a retired Ghanaian United Nations official, remained in custody for a second day as police and bank officials tried to unpick a complex web of trades.

The massive losses he built up could force UBS to reduce the size of its investment banking unit and carry out sweeping job cuts, according to reports in Switzerland.

Thousands of jobs could be slashed from the bank's global workforce of 65,000, newspapers said.

Having plummeted by more than 10 percent when the losses were revealed on Thursday, shares in UBS rallied in early trading on Friday, rising more than 2.5 percent to 10.01 Swiss francs at 0700 GMT.

A picture of Adoboli emerged as a fiercely ambitious man who often worked nights in the office but masked the pressures of his job with an amiable personality and a penchant for parties at his trendy bachelor flat.

Adoboli was born in Africa but educated at a £20,000-per-year ($31,500) boarding school in Yorkshire, northern England, where he was head boy.

He graduated from the University of Nottingham in central England with a degree in e-commerce and digital business in 2003.

According to the Financial Services Authority (FSA) watchdog, he joined UBS in 2006 as a trainee investment adviser.

The trader's family said they were "heartbroken" over his arrest.

"From what the reports are saying, it could be that he made a mistake or wrongful judgment," said his father John Adoboli, a former UN staff officer who lives in the port city of Tema in Ghana.

"The family is heartbroken because fraud is not our way of life," he added. "I brought them up to be God-fearing and to appreciate decency."

Adoboli reportedly accumulated unsustainable losses on betting on share prices and currency exchange rates at a time of turbulence on world markets.

The Times reported that he had lost heavily after the Swiss Central Bank's decision last week to devalue the Swiss currency.

In a clue to the mounting losses, he is said to have posted "I need a miracle" on his Facebook page last week.

The arrest comes three years after trader Jerome Kerviel ran up losses of 4.9 billion euros at French bank Societe Generale through a similar type of trading to the transactions in which Adoboli specialised.

Senior bankers at UBS learned of the losses on Wednesday and lawyers and managers grilled Adoboli at the bank's building near Liverpool Street station in the heart of the City of London financial district, several reports said.

Police were called in when it became clear the breach was more serious.

Many figures in the banking world were surprised that UBS had failed to notice the huge losses.

Manoj Ladwa, a senior trader at ETX Capital, told AFP: "The problem is within UBS because their risk management systems weren't quick enough to pick up that this trader had built very big positions within a very short period of time.

"There should have been limits in place.

"The systems, can vary quite considerably from bank to bank and it's something that the senior staff over at UBS will be addressing over the next few weeks and the next few months."

Following the arrest, ratings agency Moody's said it was considering lowering UBS's credit rating.

Moody's said its review of the rating will focus on "ongoing weaknesses in the group's risk management and controls that have become evident again."

While the losses may be manageable, they "call into question the group's ability to successfully complete the rebuilding of its investment banking operations," the rating agency said.

I once heard someone say to stay in a failed marriage for the sake of the kids is foolhardy, why because though the kids may grow up to say my parents were together, it may be at the expense of traumas from fighting and living in an unfriendly environment. I have actually witnessed this with a close acquaintance. Him and were in love but did not LOVE each other, if that makes sense. They had kids and tried to stick it out. After many years of fight they finally separated. You know what, they have the best relationship ever. They have gone their separate ways, but at least they are now cordial.

I have NEVER been one to advocate splitting that country, but recent events just seem to make it clear as the days go by that dividing that country may be the best thing for it. The cultural differences are just too many and even after all these years of staying for the kids, its just getting worse. Even the history books have stated that the British only kept Nigeria as one because they didn't want to administrate two or more regions. Please dont take this wrong anyone, apologies beforehand if you feel insulted and I'M NOT REQUESTING A SPLIT BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS (some of my family are actually Muslims) but this is a cultural thing. Its not working, the culture of the north and that of the south is just not working. Are the Sudanese smarter than us.

There is a Chinese proverb that says ONLY A FOOL CONTINUES DOWN THE WRONG PATH, EVEN WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TOLD HIM HE IS GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. BECAUSE OF SHAME HE CONTINUES AS HE IS TO PROUD TO ADMIT THEY ARE RIGHT AND HE IS WRONG.

Siena:
I've had one experience of attempted theft.

I got to my car, which was parked in Ridley market, Dalston, back in 1992. Only to find a lowlife scumbag trying to hot-wire my ride. He'd ripped the steering cowling off, and was trying to bypass my home-brewed immobiliser. I narrowly escaped doing jail time, after a brief, ferocious scuffle, which ended up with him having a badly broken right leg. It had to be amputated, just below the right knee. I only realised how bad I'd hurt him, when we were both in court, three months later. At the time, I thought it was just a flesh wound.

I felt bad for a short while, especially as he was 18-years-old at the time, but then thought, to hell with him. He was the criminal, and I was the one under scrutiny. I was lucky, I had good friends watching my back, and the supposed witness that claims he'd watched me break his leg, later changed his statement, which meant I got off.

Never had any more car theft, or attempted theft till date.

Let me guess this was in the UK or something. Cus only overseas can a thief switch up the charge and claim he was battered LOL. Something like that happened to a colleague in Amsterdam where stealing bikes is like normal business. When he saw his bike getting jacked, he dealt serious brushings out. I was like officer I saw it all, it was ll in self defense as the their had an object which I couldn't really see clearly. Must of thrown it away officer sir. You should have seen the guy staring at us when we gave the story. Black eye and all looking in astonishment like WTF. They believed us, we were in suits. We laughed for years about the story.

igbsam:
I was double crossed at gun point with 5 car robbers surrounding me ordering me to get down along lagos abeokuta express way, Not knowing wat to do, i didn't know where the boldness came, hoping to see how active my v6 engine is, I put the car on reverse crushing the robber standing at the back of my car cos he was caught unaware. I drove in reverse for like 10secs before putting it on drive directly facing the ones in the front. The shot at me, but cos i was approaching them with speed, they were unable to aim straight at me, while jumping off the road. I crushed the leg of another one, and the zoomed of. I didn't drive home straight, rather drove to the police station and kept my car there for like a week in order to clear my tracks. It was an experience i would never forget.

(THE JAMES BOND MELODY KICKS IN) his name is Bsam, IG Bsam. Dude you must have more than one liver, I swear.

For all you fools (full of obvious laughter) who are asking what she wanted to achieve, do you see the problem that women liberation/equality has caused. Let me explain for the less IQéd among us. If we said a man iimpregnatedand had 7 babies in 12 months would you doubt OK then she felt what a man can do I can also do So there you have it. stop being so dumb and leave her alone, na the strive to be equal to men cause this.

My people especially ladies, Im JOKING OOO.

Later, just had to cus this is so hilarious.

Long over due! Finally someone realises that in order to gain respect you must act in respect. What many people on this forum fail to realise is that canning is NOT I repeat NOT our culture, its came from colonization, slavery and western dominance. We were dumb enough and felt inferior that when we got independence we felt that this was the way to go. Please read up on this and so some investigating. These harsh practices were used by the British, Portuguese and Dutch.

No one has the right to spank a child except the parents. Are you telling me that we are so lacking that the only way to discipline is to impose bodily harm? You know the result, look at the police , look at the army, look at MoPo. Its created a society that we look to impose harm. The whole issue about, we will be like US or Europe is simply silly. Have them cut grass the old fashioned way (cutlass), sweep the school, mop the classroom, repaint the cafe, come on why do we Africans always like to give the western world excuses to have them abuse us like animals.

Ask youself what is the intention. When you punish your child, do you enjoy it, no! The intention is that he learns from it. You think back and be honest, did you really respect that senior prefect or teacher that beat you. We are not animals, we are not dogs, we are human beings.

mischi:
The UK and the us are at it again.so we are now to be HQ for Al Queda and the next thing you know they are sending "allied troops" to liberate nigerians and the world from terrorists, but only if u are deceived and dont know they are only here to set up base to get their hands on the oil in nigeria.

why do these people(uk and us) not leave countires alone and stop engineering and twisting and turning things for their own very selfish means.I think the UK and the US are the worst terrorists ever in this world,very evil governments.look at their history and you will see the trend of conquering and taking what does not belong to them all pretending to be working in the interest of the very people they are stealing from.You dont even need to look too far into history, look at what they have done in IRAQ AND sYRIA,they have started never ending illegal wars in these countires causing more harm than good.

The ordinary people are living in daily fear ,bombs going off here and there killing and maiming families in their entirety all in the  name of liberating them.why dont they go to zimbabwe or something, but how for!, no oil there,and yet they want to live in peace in their own countries, safe and sound with their heaters on on.  ,

UK and Goverment, you better stay clear of Nigeria becos this is were u will meet your WATERLOO.Nonesense!!!! and shame on GED or whatever you call urself for not being able to find the culprits and allowing these terror countries( uk and uk )to use this opportunity to invade you and steal from us or do you not want to chop your oil money or shld i say loot your oil money again?.GOD help nigeria, HE is still GOD afterall!!

The say a day without laughter is a day not lived, I cracked up reading this post . Help us out please. IS THERE ANY OIL IN THE NORTH LOL SMH . So let me get this str8, the UK and US will land in the North liberate them then make their way down to the SE . You missed your calling, you would be a great scenario writer for any new James Bond flick.

What you are insisting is actually our main problem, we Nigerians just hate it when someone tells us our breath stinks. We see it as an insult, who are you to tell me, , But in all honesty, If I were an AQ head, I would set up shop so fact in the North, it would make Usain Bolts head spin. No better place on this earth to succeed. And thats the scary part.

Um also, i dont think Musa Tanko agrees with your Oil conspiracy theory. You do know him right. Just in case you dont this is what he had to say, by the way the quote is taken out of the April 2, 2010 "Nigerian I repeat Nigerian" Sunday Times. Last when I looked they also didnt have shares in the establishment:

I QUOTE:
This week Musa Tanko, a spokesman claiming to speak for Boko Haram, bolstered those fears. “Islam does not recognise international boundaries. We will carry out our operations anywhere in the world if we have the chance,” Mr Tanko said.

“The United States is the number one target for its oppression and aggression against Muslim nations, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan, and its blind support to Israel in its killings of our Palestinian brethren.” The group draws its inspiration from the Afghan Taleban and sees Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden as its champions, Mr Tanko was quoted as saying — “although we don’t have any contact with them yet”.

Thanks for the laugh

Sorry but maybe its me, but where in the text does it state he has been convicted or that he confessed. The articles says THE POLICE SAYS[b][/b]. Usuallly someone is innocent until proven guilty. Im not saying he didnt do it but lets not rush to conclusions.

modele2:
Agree, but as was rightly said, the corrupt leaders have beget the corrupt people.

i Remember once in school when my note was seized by a technical assistant. The guy said i had to come to collect it at his house. Tot nothin of it as i knew his wife and kids and lived in a BQ close to them. I got there and infront of his children he told me i had to buy him malt before i got my note. I tried to wangle my way out of it, till he directly told me to bring money. I have never been so ashamed in my life. shame for such a conduct infront of his children who were all under 10 years old and staring at both of us. I debated leaving the note, but remembered all the important things i had there.
I had to leave his house and put money in an envelop as a feeble attempt to cover up the nonsence that was going on for his kids sake.

Its not a curse but those children would definitely be corrupt. Thats the example we see today from our leaders starting from our parents. God help us!!!

Which is my point exactly. Now do things like this gone in developed countries of course, maybe not a note book but other things. The main difference, if you report it the TA would be held accountable and would not receive any mercy. In Nigeria where there is no accountability he KNOWS nothing will come of it. Funny thing is if you report, you will even get into more trouble. There will even be some that will tell you to just SETTLE the guy. Most funny, I bet he gave you the rubish sermon that he was TRAINING you yeah right. Training my a,

So but in addition to the what I wrote, just got a light bulb moment which I wanted to share with you all. Could also be the Rose I had last night still working and its Friday

Look at it this way, even religion ( no matter your affiliation) is based on accountability. I wonder how many christians would strive to follow the narrow path if God has said:

You know what do what you want good or bad enjoy, on judgment day I wont hold it against you. You are welcome to enter the pearly gates no matter what. Can you just picture what would happen.[i][/i] Just a thought on this Friday afternoon.

I must say this is a very interesting topic and I initially hestiated to get in the mix, but I just couldnt resit getting in my own  two cents. In advance apologies, the intention is not to insult anyone my brothers and sisters.

First of all I dont know if we are the most corrupt society, but we dont do a bad job at it. I would agree that its an epidemic and very deep rooted, but its not just a Nigerian thing. Anyone that suggest that the US or Europe is not corrupt has no idea what they are talking about. I have lived approxiamtely 90% of my life ( from childhood) oversseas ( US and EU) and I can tell you that the US is also very corrupt, especially government. You would be surprised at the level of corruption. Type security scam Iraq and see what you get. A company apponited by the state department couldnt account for billions of $. Lets not get into Haliburton etc etc. In the EU same thing, an example is that Greece tampered with their books so as to get into the EU. The Greeks are known for corruption. The success of 419 is based in greed and corruption. Read what som eof them state: I have stole money from a bank, oil company I want to share etc. The recipient has to be of corrupt nature to fall victim. Most victims are overseas.

Secondly corruption/greed is a human trait, more in some than others.

The issue in Nigeria is THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!! Human beings must be held accountable for their actions with out pardon. They must also know that they are being watched and if they go against the grain they will face the penalty no matter who you are, your status, monetary, family etc. That is the problem in Nigeria. We know that we can beat accountability either by offering bribe, quoting a name or my surname. Isnt the most famous Nigerian quote when in trouble O boy do you who I am or Do you know that I know so and so etc etc. Or make we talk now which one.

The problem is from the grass rooots. Its starts at elementary school and is all facets of our society. So its not the politicians fault NO WAY. The have all graduated with PHD honors in the school of life taught 9ja style. So when they get to that office they simply carry out what they have learned as good custodians of the art they have learned.

Overseas you will be held accountable when you break the law PERIOD, no mercy. You will have the right to a fair tial but if found guilty away to the gallo you go. Some examples Madoff sentenced to life imprisonement all assets taken. Mrs Ibru forefieght US 1 BN keep all the rest and 18mths prison or house arrest, hospital arrest, Ive forgotten. The examples go on. So when a young Nigerian reads this he/she thinks corruption PAYS. Many of the guests on this forum wouldnt  mind a position in the house or senate, would you?? Why is that, cus NO ACCOUNTABILITY![/b]So to some extent I dont even blame Nigerians. Look at it this way, if you dont have traffic lights, who would stop. Even when you do, so even beat the red light.

In Nigeria at the junction [b]Corruption Steet and Greed Avenue, there are no stop lights.  

So until we create a society that is accountable from the very bottom, in pidgin All dis na talk talk we dey do ooo.

My two cents folks. Later and take care.

Siena:

Sorry bro, my mistake. I was indeed referring to the Boxer engines from the Alfa Romeo. You are right - Lanci did use V4 engines between 1920 and the early 1960's.

However, the point I was trying to get across, is that the 4 cylinder engines that the majority of Nigerians (including mechanics) refer to as "V4" in modern cars, are anything but. They are all I4.

Again, my apologies for getting mixed up with your statements regarding Lancia and early V4 engines.

No need to apologies bro, I had the idea that you were referring to the Alfa. I have to confess, I had a bit of an edge, family on wife side have been in the Italian (Fiat, Alfa etc) scene for like 40 years so I get drowned with teh info. At least you know what yr talking about. If you read the posts, seems that most didnt pick up on yr spot on comment 6cyl is NOT A V6 automatically, oh well. Also major difference between 4cyl vs 6cyl diesels/petrol. Take care and be nice to the lil lady, she is a cutie

Siena:
You're partially right - there were V4 engines of old, but not by Lancia. Lancia used the "Boxer" engine. So, horizontally-opposed engines, with the pistons lying flat either side. Often referred to as the "Flat-Four". Similar to the old Volkswagen air-cooled engines used in the Beetle and Type 2 / Volkswagen bus (Danfo).

The old V4 engines were used by Saab back in the late '60's - early '80's. Capacies were 1,7 or 2,0. The same engines were used by Ford in the early Transit, Taunus and Corsair.

Modern 4 cylinder engines in current use are either I4 (inline four) or Flat Four (Boxer).

Dude dont take this wrong but,  what are you talking about?  LANCIA PIONEERED THE V engines![/i] I didnt want to come across as a know it all hence the statement [i]If Im not mistaken. Lancia use to be well know for their racing/rally etc. Could it be that you meant boxer motor from Alfa?? Boxer motors are horizontal.

Siena:
I would only go for a V6/V8. Power delivery is much better, and so much smoother than the I4 will ever be. An inline 4 gets coarser at higher rpm, and to match a V6/V8 require the use of a balancer shaft.

And for those that feel the V6 is thirstier, think again. The extra fuel any engine demands is more to do with the engine capacity, and design. An old Peugeot 505 2,0 I4 will drink more than a 2000 Toyota Camry 3,0 V6.

Nigerians need to think beyond what their quack mechanics tell them. For those that feel an I4 engine's the bee's knees, would you buy a 2004 Volkswagen Touareg V6, then get your mechanic to replace the engine with an I4, just to satisfy his inadequacies when it comes to V6/V8 engines?

And lastly, no such thing as a V4, same way not all 6 cylinder engines are V6. Some are inline six (I6). Examples of I6 are the 6 cylinder engines used by BMW and Nissan Skyline R series.

Actually there is something as a V4 engine. Lancia were famous for building them if Im not mistaken. Though it seems some got the question confused by citing V4 and V6 which is a different issue as you pointed out ( not the same as 4cyl and 6cyl).

Need to say though that its easier to accomplish much of this in diesels though and who better than the Germans. also dont expect to see them in Jeeps and large pickups, though Kia has gotten away with it in their Sorento. Dont think you will be seeing this (for now at least) in the States as they love the huge engines. For those interested here is the link. The stats are crazy and having test driven this thing and owning an E 4 cyl, they have my vote.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/09/28/mercedes-benz-s-class-to-sport-its-first-ever-4-cylinder-turbodi/

All the reasons given for choosing a 6 cyl over 4 cyl are correct but actually outdated. In short it used to be a power issue (HP),  torque, stillness etc. The flip side was that you knew that you would pay more on fuel and possibly repairs. Nowadays auto manufacturers are discovering that with the latest technology a 4 cyl accommodates and make the 6 cyl an expensive alternative. There are 4 cyl with lots of HP, incredible torque ( torque is that ability to move force, so when you are climbing a hill or accelerating while in a high gear) etc. A good example is BMW and MB who have adopted this in many models of their 5 series and E Class respectively. Not to mention that they are good for the environment ( exhaust ext). I doubted a bit at first, but I have an E class 2010 and I was shocked at the performance and the fuel efficiency though its a diesel, is sick ( I get 17-18 KM per liter) and push the pedal on the highway (120+km). Torque is crazy. The dealer showed me the new S Class, yes you guessed it with 4 cyl. I test drove it and couldn't believe it. Who would have believed that you could make a S Class using a 4 cyl. technology means we can achieve more using less.