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Deepzone isnt even fighting or insulting anymore and people are still fighting n insulting on this thread
C'mon you guys, Enough already

I trade words with mature men and women and not riffraffs that should be in juve.

Insurance would take care of any accident.

Like AIG?

She got banned because of threads like this not her personal wars with Pataki.

I got banned by Obamaniacs. You dare not say anything against Queenishas husband, barack Obama on this site otherwise you will be banned.

@ DeepZone,
The only female aboki of nairaland and Nebraska. Yet you call me a Mushin product?

Ajegunle mack daddy, to be precise.

Thatz not the point.
Whether she is building a career or not. . . . . .I am the head of the house and will provide everything for my wife and kids.
A man looking up to a woman to add something for the bills ain't a man. . . . .He is a Arrow.

What of a man that lost his job or a man that is disabled during the marriage? Will he relinquish his headship to his working wife?

deepzone i said,every lady entering into marriage should know before hand how to effectively manage the two VIP biz.
Our mothers were working women Yet they had time for us,they cooked soup,pound foo-foo and still wore their suits to work the next day.If you think your career comes first,don't get married,If you think you family can survive without your having to work,stay at home and but if you are wise,devise a way to manage the two.
look am bored,not at all game for your arguments,sho gbo?

How many of our mothers that simultaneously managed career and family are vice presidents or presidents of a cooperation?. How many sarah palin's do we have out there?. Go to wall street and count the number of high profile women there and tell me how many of them managed career and family together. Do you think Oprah would have been that successful if she was married?

All that would be taken care of. . . . . .That is why i am working in the first place. . .
I don't have to work IF all i have to do is to take care of maself. . . .There's enough in the coffers to take me to ma grave at 70!!!
Men are working now so they can provide for wife n kids and stash enough away to guarantee ma kids stay in the top echelon for LIFE.

What guarantee will your wife have that will enable her give up her career on the premise that you'll always be there?. Statistics has shown that such an arrangement is a recipe for cheating on the man's side. What can she do?. Hannibus, you are supporting this move because it will give freedom to do whatever you want with those Peckham floozies.

Maybe DeepZone wants to take her ceritificates to HELL.

Roflmaopimp

My first priority would always be my family,my kids.i would never put work or career first,Never ! I wont wait for my hubby to give me conditions,it wont even get to that extent Cool,every good mother knows how to effectively balance the two,If you don't then don't just get married,stick to the damn career.

Your career is the major financier off your independence and the husband you are hoping on may step and leave you with those kids at the dying minute. What will you do? Go out and start afresh with 4 kids trailing behind you?

Yes. . . . . .
I am at the zenith of ma career now and i ain't even married yet.

Zenith and not married @42? When will you marry?

What about the kids??

Hand break you?

Who is gon' take care of the kids while she's building her career?? What career if i may even ask?

Are they not your kids you lazy man?

I expect ma wifey to stay at home and take care of ma kids. . . . .
Funmi is suggesting i wait till she's 40 before making babies so i can make kids like her(down syndrome)

Forget that story bro. Women have made babies even at 60 and all this opata about down syndrome and autism is caused by something else and not an old egg.

Una still believe say juju no dey when Nigerian immigration don confirm it?

riday, October 24, 2008 Printer Friendly Version
How immigration officials and voodoo aid human trafficking business in Nigeria

By Musikilu Mojeed

They are supposed to be huge barriers to traffickers, but many in the anti-trafficking movement see some security agencies, embassy and airline officials as the major leak in the bid to drive the human merchants underground.


Emmanuel Obe and NAN.
Victims of human trafficking found in a container.


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Most of those contacted in the course of this investigation were unanimous that human trafficking has continued to thrive in Nigeria because of collusion between bad eggs among security, immigration, embassy and airline officials and traffickers. These officials often take bribes in exchange for facilitating smooth passage across the borders for traffickers and their victims.

A source in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs told this reporter that France and some other European countries had complained bitterly and repeatedly "that some of our immigration and border officials and airlines had been looking the other way and allowing traffickers to have their way."

The Women Trafficking and Child Labour Eradication Foundation said some of its international partners, including its funders had raised the same concern. "It is sad that some officials are colluding with traffickers. It is a confirmation of the widely held belief that you can get anything done in Nigeria as long as you are ready to pay a bribe," WOTCLEF Executive Director, Vero Umaru said.

Ostensibly to get to the root of this and similar allegations, the National Agency for the Prohibition of Traffic in Persons, it was gathered, for four months late last year, collaborated with security operatives in eight countries for a joint and simultaneous covert investigation into human trafficking ring in the country.

The countries involved in the project include Nigeria, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom, Ireland and Netherland. At the end of the operation, which climaxed on September 24, 2007 with operatives striking simultaneously in major airports in the countries, 56 Nigerians, including top immigration officials were reportedly arrested in the eight countries.

An unknown number of victims were also said to have been rescued. The names of the immigration officers and other officials that were implicated are yet to be made public. NAPTIP's Director of Investigation, Mohammed Babandede, confirmed the operation but declined further details.

He however said, "All I can tell you is that all those implicated are being investigated. And the Comptroller-General of Immigration is not even ready to cover them up. I will also like to tell you that our investigations have shown that traffickers are well-heeled as they have money to corrupt airliners, immigration officials and several other agencies in order to get through. They give bribes to people to procure both genuine and fake passports and visa with which to ship out their victims out of Nigeria."

The Head of the Anti-Human Trafficking Unit of the Nigeria Immigration Service, Mr. John Egwu, however said he was not aware that his men were colluding with traffickers. "Nobody has brought that to my attention. I cannot deny that outright because of the tendency of Nigerians to cut corners, but I don't have any such case on my hand," the Assistant Comptroller-General of Immigration said. "But I am not ruling out the existence of bad eggs among us. As far as I know, our men have done so much in terms of apprehending traffickers."

Voodoo and the trafficking business

Another major factor oiling the wheel of trafficking in the country is voodoo. Insiders in the trafficking business say once arrangements for victims' trips abroad are completed, traffickers seal the deal by taking the victims to shrines of voodoo priests for oath taking. There, victims are made to swear that they would never reveal the identities of their traffickers to anyone if arrested whether in the course of the journey or in the destination countries.

A repented former trafficker confirmed that voodoo, known as juju in the Nigerian parlance, is playing a great but nauseating role in the human trafficking business.

When traffickers are arrested in Nigeria, victims have often failed to show up in court to testify against them for fear that they would die if they violate the oaths they took. In administering the oaths, the source said traffickers usually collect the finger nails, menstrual blood and pubic hairs of the girls in preparing concoctions. NAPTIP's Deputy Director of Prosecution and Legal Services, Mr. Abdulrahim Shaibu, said his agency had had difficulty prosecuting traffickers because "victims are afraid of juju and are hardly forthcoming."

Babandede corroborated Shaibu. "We have found out that 90 per cent of girls that have been trafficked to Europe came from Delta and Edo States and were taken to shrines to take oaths of secrecy. When they reach their destination, they take a second round of oaths. So, they are hardly willing to testify against their traffickers in courts. Our first conviction succeeded because we raided a shrine and arrested the chief priest," he said. At the time, in 2004, NAPTIP was prosecuting one Sarah Okoya, the first trafficker to be jailed in Nigeria, for attempting to traffic six girls to Spain for prostitution. But because of the oath of secrecy that they had taken, the girls failed to show up in court to testify against Okoya. NAPTIP was frustrated and it was on the verge of losing the case that it decided to raid the shrine of the priest who administered the oaths on the girls. NAPTIP eventually won the case as Okoya was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment.

One Samson Ovenseri was in 2006 accused by NAPTIP of having deceived a girl into traveling to Spain to work in a salon for a woman that needed her service. Ovenseri was arrested after the man, who was taking the victim to Spain on his behalf, was arrested at Seme border by immigration officials. The anti-trafficking agency was able to establish that the victim was actually being taken to that European country for prostitution, but the victim did not cooperate with NAPTIP officials because she had been taken to a shrine to take an oath of secrecy. Ovenseri got a one-year jail term.

While NAPTIP was prosecuting one Franca Asiboja, who was eventually jailed for seven years for trafficking young girls to Burkina Faso for prostitution, it came to light in court that Asiboja had compelled her victims to take oaths of secrecy and loyalty before a shrine called Ogoje, manned by an old priestess. For the five months that they prostituted in Ouagadougou, before they were arrested by security agencies and repatriated to Nigeria, each of the girls reportedly paid 500,000 CFA to Asiboja in daily remittances.

The agency was only able to make headway in another case when the trafficker that was then being prosecuted, Constance Omoruyi, disclosed the identity of the priest, who administered oaths on her two victims, to investigators. At the time, the victims had vanished but the priest was made to testify in court. The court jailed Omoruyi for one year.

Egwu argues that it is the oath-taking ritual that is making the Nigerian human trafficking industry thrive. He said without the practice, the country's trafficking ring would have long been busted and traffickers driven underground. "Because of the oaths that traffickers administer on their victims, the entire trafficking business is shrouded in so much secrecy. For fear that they might die if they violate the terms of their oaths, victims hardly cooperate with investigators and hardly show up in court to testify against traffickers," the immigration official explained.

He cited the example of a Germany-bound woman who was arrested by immigration officials at the Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja in mid-September 2008. When interrogated by officials, the victim first insisted that she was traveling unaccompanied to visit her father in Germany. For a long time, she refused to cooperate with investigators until she was pressed to confess that she had taken an oath never to reveal the identity of those who were taking her to Germany. "When we assured her that we had the wherewithal to render the oath she had taken ineffective, she decided to open up to us," Egwu said.

Babandede also said he and other investigators in his agency are regularly threatened by traffickers who he said send threat letters and make calls warning them to slow down on the war against trafficking or be prepared to lose their lives. "Prepare for war. Your family will get the result. Idiot," read one threat message sent to Babandede's telephone by an unknown person. "But we are not afraid. We will continue to do our job until we drive majority of the traffickers out of business," he said.

Tightening the noose

Law enforcement officials in Nigeria are fighting back ferociously against human traffickers, as new laws and a more aggressive awareness campaign take effect. The United State's Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons has rated Nigeria as having made progress in efforts to address trafficking in persons.

"It (Nigeria) increased the staffing of its National Agency for the Prohibition of Traffic in Persons to over 150 people. Officials delivered lectures on the new anti-trafficking law to immigration officials, judges and magistrates. They also delivered copies of the law to the police command in every state and various media offices, and discussed it on talk shows and state programs.

"NAPTIP established a National Investigation Task Force that set up small units in 11 states with the worst trafficking problems. It trained NITF on the provisions of the anti-TIP law, care of victims, Interpol standards, and corruption and human rights issues," the agency noted in a recent report.

To address the problem of law enforcement officers and immigration and airport authorities collaborating in trafficking across Nigeria's borders, it was gathered that NAPTIP has stepped up its intelligence arm and briefed the heads of police and immigration on the issue. The result is that both the police and the immigration service have set up anti-trafficking units, making it more difficult for perpetrators of the trade to operate. NAPTIP has also conducted trainings for border officials across the country and has also met with several major traditional leaders to raise their awareness about trafficking.

Because the war against human trafficking is getting tougher and tougher here, Nigerian traffickers are moving across the border into neighbouring Benin Republic, Ghana, Cameroun and Niger Republic, where they believe they could operate more freely, said Orakue Arinze, head of media and publicity at NAPTIP.

Some Nigerian girls were recently rescued in Ghana while they were being assisted by Ghana immigration officials to get to Europe.

UNICEF Protection Programme chief, Robert Limlim, is hopeful that the problem will subside now that the government has taken more aggressive measures: "Nigeria is clearly struggling with its own major challenges, but also using this to rally and even include other countries to fight this ring of criminals," he said.

http://odili.net/news/source/2008/oct/24/415.html

Why do you have issues or should i say why are against married women with career /working?

Inferiority complex. He's tired of women kicking his butt.

Women should make hay while the sun is up. . . .
Career and bullshit shoulda been taken care of before marriage.

Did you rise to the top of your career before marriage?

I pity the senseless male goat that will end-up marrying you. Infact women like you, may not even get married or you are just out rightly bound for destruction. What has my name got to do with you again? Wanking yourself off again with my name? Undecided

What is your problem with Igbo women? Why don't you just bloody sod off!

The mackdaddy growls from Mushin.

U need deliverance, Hotfunmi!!!

have you finished from the babalawo apprentice? Erelu is blessed and will not be your patient.

Women pull doubles in an effort to rise in their career and also have a successful marriage. It is easier for a married man to become the president of his company than a woman. The few women that made it on top mostly are in the political fields. while age is threatening a woman's reproductive ability, her eggs are depleting every month and she still needs to put in all her efforts in her career in order to break the glass ceiling. In some careers like modeling or acting, child bearing may crash your career or may not because of body changes. It's most difficult for women in corporate America because of the incessant maternity leaves and all that.

Ladies:

In a competitive world where some women are ready to give up everything including child bearing to have a successful career. what is your take as a woman if your husband threatens divorce if you don't slow down on the career thing and make babies? Will you shun him and the marriage and focus on your career or will you risk your career and listen to him bearing in mind that he may step or die after you jeopardize your career and make babies for him?. I know you can still do both simultaneously but your chances usually reduce to 10% when you try multitasking.


Guys,
Will you give her a chance to build her career if child bearing will stand in her way until she's about 38-40 or will you demand she make the babies and talk about career later?. What advise will you give your sister as a man in similar predicament?

Hausa women??

Igbo girls are some of the best chics you can ask for. yoruba girls come a close second.

An igbo woman knows how to pamper her man well.

Dem don give you chop?

shegirl71:
No we are not demanding.

Are you hausa or ibo. Your picture is very very hot tho. That is what i call natural beauty and I wish my brother will marry you,

I also saw plus queen in blue scrubs tonight and was like shooooo

karamod looks okay but the girl in front of her should learn to buy her correct size in bra.

ok, moti bese mi bo sita!!

I was not here o!!

You dey fear?. Anybody that cross your way will get pepper sprayed in his eyes from me.

The same way she claimed that the criminals in that famed TV show "How to rob a bank" were all Igbos until I posted the transcript and we say that most of the criminals mentioned in that program were Yorubas

Which program is that? when?

why haven't they performed wonders with the economy

Because Nigerians are hypocrites. It's either you worship satan or God and not both.

That disease is very prevalent in the north. Ouch

What did I do to deserve my night being messed up by you? That picture is gross.

Haba, how am I suppose to know?
Dnt Yoruba women remain virgins too?

That one is a known factor, it's Hausa women that is still a rumor.

You really do have issues.
I challenge you again to quote it here in context and you're beating around the bush
In that same post what are the other things I said.
You're making yourself a teller of half twisted truths.
post the link here for all to see and read.

E don do abegi. Some people can't even take a joke.

@post
Hausa women are Nigerians.

not all of them. some are from chad, ghana, Niger and burkina faso. I heard they remain virgins until marriage, is that so?

Nimshi is making so much sense.