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MuttleyLaff:
God manisfested in three Persons is seen all over the bible,
but God is not limited or restricted to three Persons.

Limited by English, isnt a good enough reason
Do your best to win full approval in God's sight, as a worker who is not ashamed of his work, one who correctly teaches the message of God's truth.

What has been going on so far, is challenging a doctrine thats trying to make and/or have trinity be a be-all and end-all of God's existence.

Thrice in bible history, was God asked what His name is
On three separate occassions, God was asked of His name
Three different people in the course of bible narrative, asked God what His name is.
God never said what it is instead asking the reason why each wanted to know what His name is
The second person that asked was told, by God that His name is impossible to understand or comprehend
Do you know what the answer was, that God gave the third and last person that asked a similar question?

MuttleyLaff:
C'mon now Perfectbeing, stop pulling my leg....
Of course, you know.
Dont be shy, going on, go ahead, just say it

Primesky:
Hahaha. What a pity! Did you learn biology at all?. It seems you didn't pay attention in class.

Tell me, how does a foetus form without exchange of fluid between both sexes?.

The mystery of God is clearly bigger than you. The virgin womb of a virgin woman was chosen to carry the sinless saviour. I hope you understand that?.

The blood of Mary had no play in the process, neither was that of any man involved.

Let me tell you, stop trying to use your small brain to understand the limitless God. How can an ant, think of explaining the whole universe?. The oceans are there for you to explore and discover, yet, you do not know up to 5% of it with all your wisdom and reasoning. What a shame!. But you want to explain the creator of the whole universe, with what exactly?.

All you could think about with the brain God gave to you, is to believe that you're a mistake, a chance, an oops!, who came by random process. What an unfortunate state!.

Wake and return to your maker.

Jesus loves you plenty.

zionmde:
I don't give out money on the streets. I invest in their future. If u want to join me, I can give u a means to sponsor at least 1 kid back to school this September

MuttleyLaff:
If there is a "right hand of the throne"
there equally must be a "left, bad or wrong hand side of the throne".
It's similar to the expression of wanting to be on someone's good side

Why parked at trinity.
The Bible doesn't pigeonhole God into trinity.

We know and experience God, as God the Father, and Son of God. The demonstration of the God's power
is also known or experienced through the use of the Holy Spirit but that doesn't mean God is restricted or limited to those three persons

Maamin:
Hmmmmm

1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

That is the whole of Revelation 4
Where did it mentioned that it was Jesus apart from your own opinion here?

The next chapter will help you understand who was sitting anyways! Good luck!

Maamin:
I think if I understand him clearly, he is trying to say God resides somewhere above all his creations.

That very place he reside and makes the earth his foot stool.

That place that is unapproachable 1 Tim 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Daniel 2:22 "It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things; He knows what is in the darkness, And the light dwells with Him."

Maamin:
Lol! Well done, You try

All I have been about this thread is to make you see the fallacy in trinity doctrine. It is gradually coming through sha!

Maamin:
May be I mistakenly skipped it unknowingly. So many mentions.
I try to reply all.
OK, will check!

MuttleyLaff:
What is Perfectbeing?
What is the wisdom, understanding, power, advice etcetera of Perfectbeing?
Are those different to Perfectbeing?
The wisdom, understanding, power, counsel are Perfect being, they are part of Perfect being, the same way the spirit of God is part of the Godhead which is God

Maamin:
What is so complex in my question?

How do you explain the two thrones in revelations that of the Father and that of the Son , according to you they are figurative. You promised earlier to comment on that.?

Maamin:
I asked a question and you are asking me did I read it? Read what?

Maamin:
Now Your last statement is coming true. The Son was begotten, the holy spirit was not begotten.

Maamin:
Exactly my reason to ask you to leave that out...lol!

Why trinity, why not 4, 5, 10, 100, or why not 1 as revealed in the scriptures?

OneJ:
"From heaven (Yahweh, Jehovah) looks down and sees all mankind.; From his dwelling place he watches all who live on earth". Ps33:13,14. Ps11:4,5. God's word is truth. Shalom

sonmvayina:
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LOL, we are spiritual beings inhabiting a body or dwelling in a fleshy body.. Death simply means the separation of spirit from the body, body goes to ground where it was taken from and spirit back to its original place.. Which is God..
Simply put, we are a part of God on a human journey.. We are all different versions of the same thing...
You understand now or you need more information?

Luciferhimself:
Stop telling lies again

I said "You will NOT CERTAINLY die" death didn't come from their eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil
Death came from God quickly driving them away from TREE OF LIFE!

if they had taken the fruit from tree of life they would've lived forever regardless of their eating the fruit of G&E

Let me give you proof from the book you carry around but don't read properly


22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. HE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO REACH OUT HIS HAND AND TAKE ALSO FROM THE TREE OF LIFE AND EAT, AND LIVE FOREVER.”

sonmvayina:
Yes, you are right, she was the serpent of the Evil tree in the original tale of the genesis story, it was the fruit of that tree that brought death... The serpent of the good tree was Ninghizhida.... It is about life and death,.

It means death is not real, it is an illusion as life is all there is....

She (inanna) and marduk (the divine king of heaven and earth) who the jews reverence are enemies.....

sonmvayina:
Yes, you are right, she was the serpent of the Evil tree in the original tale of the genesis story, it was the fruit of that tree that brought death... The serpent of the good tree was Ninghizhida.... It is about life and death,.

It means death is not real, it is an illusion as life is all there is....

She (inanna) and marduk (the divine king of heaven and earth) who the jews reverence are enemies.....

Luciferhimself:
Stop calling me what I'm not, I've never lied

Read the bible and tell me one single lie I told, you can't!

People say I lied to Eve but that's not true, I didn't lie to the beautiful woman but told him the unadulterated truth which God was keeping away from them

Let's check how the events unfolded

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

My reply came next

4“YOU WILL NOT CERTAINLY DIE,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “FOR GOD KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU EAT FROM IT YOUR EYES WILL BE OPENED, AND YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD, KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL.”


They ate the fruit. Now after God had gotten angry and cursed the man and the woman, he proved I never lied when he confirmed the result I said the fruit would have on Adam and Eve. check out the verse


22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.”

Compare the bolded statement above with verse 4 which I typed in red caps above and show me exactly where I lied. Those that are saying I lied are the true liars

I can boldly say I'm more sincere than God and I deserve that throne he sits on

zionmde:
RUBBISH
While there are many Christians just a hundred thousand would change their lives. so many Christian destitutes out there, some Christian kids who can't go to school because of fund and all this man could do is to fund a terrorism breeding ground where they will still gather and preach hatred against Christians
Churches and pastors nowadays, tufiakwa

MuttleyLaff:
Perfectbeing, God is a Spirit and so invisible
The Spirit of God, just like God, is invisible too, and of intangible attributes

Now the Spirit of God is not different from the Holy Spirit
because the Holy Spirit, essentially, is the total or complete measure of what the Spirit of God is

The "Holy", in Holy Spirit, signifies purposefully set aside
It also signifies wholly, meaning the entirety, fullness, the full measure, combined effect, of the Spirit of God

There is one Spirit of God, just as there is one fruit of the Holy Spirit
however there are seven flavours to experience in this one Spirit of God
and nine flavours to taste in this one fruit of the Holy Spirit

Numbers seven and nine, symbolises perfection or completeness for both God and man respectively

MuttleyLaff:
They are the essense of the Holy Spirit
Holy, when used in conjunction with Spirit, means, complete, means the total, means wholly

It's similar, in relation to believers attribute when talking about the fruit of the Holy Spirit, which are:
love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
just as the attributes of the fruit of the Holy Spirit are different to each other,
so the seven fold spirit of God differ from each other

Is wisdom not different from understanding?
Is knowledge not different from counsel?
Is power not different from obedience or loyalty?

And I have filled him with the spirit of God,
in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,
- Exodus 31:3

He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all kinds of workmanship
- Exodus 35:31

Usually the patriarchs got bursts or measures of the spirit of God to carry out God's work or agenda
You often read in the bible that the spirit of God descended on so-so and so

Well case in point, is Exodus 31:3 7 Exodus 35:31 reproduced above, about Bezalel

That was then but on the day of Pentecost we got delivery of the Holy Spirit (i.e. total or complete measure of the Spirit of God) that Jesus promised will be despatched.

Maamin:
Two thrones in revelations, why?

MuttleyLaff:
It started when the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary, at that point onwards, God began to form inside Mary's womb to be born as the Son of God



I am colour blind, I am denomination atheistic.
I see everyone as a human being period.
I dont ask who you are, what you are or whatnot

Maamin:
At what point did Jesus became the Son of God?

Maamin:
Why multiplication? Why not any other sign? Lol
Let's just leave that out

MuttleyLaff:
"Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be, in Heaven and earth, at any moment of time?"
That above is the question reproduced.
For a question such like that, I was expecting a binary answer

And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him
the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and might,
the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
- Isaiah 11:2

(1) Spirit of God,
(2) Spirit that gives extraordinary wisdom,
(3) Spirit that gives extraordinary insight & understanding that provides the ability to execute plans
(4) Spirit that gives advice,
(5) Spirit that gives power,
(6) Spirit of knowledge,
(7) Spirit that produces absolute loyalty to God.

Thank you. Hmm, kayefi.
Isnt it amazing that, its through of the power of His Holy Spirit, that God does all that He does
(i.e. or its with the help, of the power of the Seven spirits of God that God achieves and fulfils each and all that's in His Mind)

It is with the power of the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Seven spirits of God) that, God, took it on Himself to be a human being.
So in cahoot with the power of the Holy Spirit (i.e. power of the Seven Spirits of God)
became man in form, in the person of Jesus, the Son of God, God the Son.

I'll enjoy you sharing in details exactly what the point is you were buttressing

Jesus, is the incarnation of God,
the incarnation of the God who is a Spirit,
the incarnation of the God, better known for His Holy Spirit (i.e. the Seven spirits, the total or complete measure of the Spirit of God)

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Abeggy chop knuckle jaare

The Holy Spirit, just like God is invisible, is of intangible attributes
Even human beings dont send greetings to and/or from attributes

Though part of the Godhead, no one prays to the Holy Spirit.
We pray for the move of the Holy Spirit, pray for the Holy Spirit to stir,
we pray for the Holy Spirit to convict, we pray that the Holy Spirit teach or reveal things
but no one prays to the Holy Spirit
We pray to God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God

What he's saying, is, God cant be boxed in,
God is a free Spirit, who cant be limited to trinity or be restricted by trinity

Abeggy chop knuckle again jaare

Maamin:
OK let's do it like this
the God that beget Jesus is God (the father)
The one that is begotten is God (the son)

The point here is that one is father and the other is son. They can't be equal



In such case reconcile it with the Holy spirit too, since it was not begotten at anytime.