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Ufeolorun: back up your own assertion too.

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And match any so called south south states with names mentioned above,prefarebly your Edo state

How would matching names of a few accomplished people prove my assertion about overall numbers of professors? My assertion is based on population and about the disparities in educational achievement (assuming they exist) not being enough to make an academically overachieving state (assuming Ekiti is such a state) produce more professors than a state with a significantly larger population that is probably comparable or near the same level (whether slightly better or slightly worse) in terms of producing professors.

Also, that's a list of seven professors but one (Bolaji Aluko) is not so much more accomplished relative to some other professors of engineering from Nigeria so I'm not sure he fits in that list, and another (Peter Bodunrin) was a prominent philosophy professor - something which is not exclusive to Ekiti state (I could mention Joseph Omoregbe or Campbell S. Momoh, philosophy professors from Edo state as well if I decided to just start listing prominent philosophy professors and I'm sure many others could do the same for their states).

But a brief list from Edo state since you requested it - Emmanuel Emovon, first Nigerian chemistry Ph.D and former minister of science and technology, Thomas Emokpae, early Nigerian Ph.D in chemistry and former head of the chemistry department at Unilag, Abel Guobadia, former head of the physics department at Unilag, and Samson Jenekhe, the most highly cited engineering professor from Nigeria. Also Festus Iyayi (also a professor), Solomon Irein-Wangboje, Tiamiyu Bello-Osagie, Osagie Imasogie (also a professor of law), Osato Giwa-Osagie (former president of the West African College of Surgeons), Sunday Iyahen (former editor-in-chief of the journal of the African Mathematical Union), John Okhuoya, Anthony Imevbore, Joseph Okogun, Robert Okojie and there are others still, but there is a significant population difference between the two states, so a direct comparison wouldn't really make sense, hence my initially not bothering to list prominent professors from south south states significantly more populated than Ekiti to begin with (in addition to the fact that the number of prominent professors is completely tangential to my objection to the claim about the overall number of professors).

Paul John: Of course you can say it's someone's assumption. Aren't all post referring to a link here on NL also someone's assumption or opinion? May be you're a type that doubt the credibility of any post when it's not what you expected, well I don't have a problem with that since it's just you.
I didn't mean to go off topic at first, I was only questioning the OP that "is education not basis of civilization". When you term a set of people civilized with poor educational bar ground, then your assertion is questionable.
Again, I'm not from that state, it's just the fact that I know about them that I'm sharing. Peace
Mind sharing your home state to even know where she's ranked

It's not about it "not being what I expected." It's about thinking you can promote such an incredibly silly claim unchallenged.

You haven't shared any "facts", you've just repeated falsehoods and silly claims. How can anyone think Ekiti has produced more professors than the entire south south put together? The "south south" is not Gombe or Zamfara, but 6 states, many of which have levels of education comparable to that of Ekiti. The person who made that claim is being mischievous or is just delusional.

Hegel was an imbecile - ask Schopenhauer.

Paul John: Oh! I didn't compose it myself
http://www.lawnigeria.com/Ekiti/Ekiti.html
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekiti_State
And don't pretend you didn't see where it was stated that the state has the highest number of profs.
This's not the even what the thread is all about. Let's not go off topic.

Did I say you composed it yourself? No. That's not the point. Whoever composed it provided no supporting evidence whatsoever.

I'm not "pretending" that I didn't see something. The claim was seen and found wanting. I insist that the claim is the result of someone's assumptions and not any actual fact-finding work, otherwise those making the claim would have actually attempted to provide even a modicum of supporting evidence.

If talking about this claim is "going off topic" then you already went "off topic" the minute you first brought it up. I wouldn't let such a silly and ridiculous assertion stand unchallenged just out of fear of going off topic.

MsDarkSkin: This dictator attitude of the leaders MUST GO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrW7KTQ3PVY



Paul Biya of Cameroon should have made that list.

Why is Felix Houphouet-Boigny on that list?

Also Jonas Savimbi never ruled his country and he and his group were directly funded by the West.

Paul John: They take the lead in Nigeria. Go confirm

Paul John: I'm not from Ekiti though

Paul John: You're right about the difference.
I read an article about Ekiti having more professors than the whole profs they've gotten in S/South, can't find that now. You can't just take away the fact that they have the highest numbers of profs and doctors in Nigeria, followed by either Ogun or Ondo(those people sabi read, I respect them for that).

You were actually serious!

What a joker! You post a list mentioning seven prominent Ekiti professors and you start believing such a ridiculous claim.

There's not even any evidence that Ekiti has the highest number of professors and doctors per capita, not to talk of having the highest number of professors and doctors outright, which is extremely unlikely. Whoever wrote that article claiming that Ekiti had more professors than the whole south south needs to go back to school to develop basic reasoning skills and learn how to carry out basic research.

Paul John: Is education not the basis of civilization? If it is then, I think Ekiti should be among the first group.
This state has the highest number of Profs and doctors in this country. More than that of the whole of S/Southern states combined together.
Ileke idi and ekt bear tell them

Do you actually believe this or are you just trying to be funny?

That state probably has produced more professors than Bayelsa. However, I doubt it has produced more than any of the other states in the "South South," even if the state is producing a higher than normal amount.

Fulaman198: Ok am sorry, I stand corrected then. I thought I read somewhere from you that there are many Edo languages and not one in particular.

There are many "Edoid" languages (languages similar to Edo), but I wouldn't have said something about there not being an Edo language. Anyway, it's an understandable mistake so no big deal.

shymexx: The population of Iran is about 74,798,599 - while Saudi Arabia is about 28,082,541...

Iran is an Islamic state with a spiritual Islamic leader. While Saudi Arabia is more of an absolute monarchy country, with Islamic laws...

I didn't think you were talking about population. Anyway, the Ayatollah doesn't really run Iran's government. He just has more political influence than a Grand Mufti would in Saudi Arabia, but it's not a fully theocratic system of government or anything. And the early caliphs of Islam were more like monarchs than clerics.

Those pics. . .

shymexx: Food for thought!!

Iran is the most Islamic country in the world - and their ideology is more terrorist-esque than the Salafists(Iranians are suicidal people, read about the human wave they used during the Iran/Iraq war) - yet you'll never see a terrorist of Persian ancestry..

Persians are more suicidal than Arabs - they don't mind losing 10million people to preserve their history and pride..

Iran is the most Islamic country in the world? Where they have some Zoroastrians and Jews? I think you mean Saudi Arabia. Anyway, Iran supposedly funds several (non-Iranian) terrorist groups. Also, terrorism isn't completely alien to Iran:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/08/201184132732146192.html

This Bacile guy must be a complete dumbass to blame the death of that ambassador on lax security. He couldn't even be bothered to read that the mob that attacked the embassy had machine guns and grenade launchers before making that dumb and weaselly statement? Or did he assume the embassy actually needed a small army for protection before his movie trailer was released and translated? I don't care either way about the movie since anti-religious slander is protected by freedom of speech and he therefore has the right to express his views freely, but the way he tried to blame what happened merely on inadequate security is despicable.

ezotik: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/19/korea.beauty/index.html

Wow. That story is pretty awful. I knew this stuff was going on with Asians, but I didn't know the problem was that serious.

Fulaman198: It's true man lol, there is esan, Benin language that Uwaifo sang in, and so many others like the one in Auchi

"Benin language" = Edo language

Fulaman198: According to PhysicsQED there is no such thing as Edo language so u lie man.

Where did I say this? Please post the statement from me that you're referring to because I think you may have misread something I wrote.

At least there's up to three! Just kidding. Anyway, thanks for the info.

I've never actually read the treaty of protection between Britain and the Obong of Calabar, but one thing I've wondered about is whether the treaty - which was written by the British and therefore included terms/conditions wanted by them - actually had provisions that would allow the British to place any part of the Obong's territory under the sovereignty of another country or government (German Cameroon). I don't have any legal expertise, but it seems to me like that is something that would be relevant.

bokohalal: There was Benin City before Benin Province or Benin Division. Benin City was so named by Europeans in the 16th century in comparison to many known towns then in Europe. And just calling it Benin could mistake it for Benin Republic. Let us leave it as it is.

True - Benin City does precede Benin division and Benin province. I agree that it should be left as it is. I think what the OP has a problem with (and he does have a point) is the presence of English and Portuguese words and the use of colonial spelling conventions in these names, but in the case of the word 'city' I don't think there's really a problem.

ezeagu: Benin City to just Benin. Owere being spelt Owerri not only makes no sense since people pronounce it as Owere, but ignores the changes in orthography since 100 years ago.

Ok, I now understand the basis for changing Owerri's name and some of the other ones you mentioned. But on the 'Aw' vs. 'O' thing, isn't it likely that the 'aw' is there to indicate which kind of O sound the word uses? If Awka was changed to Oka, isn't there a possibility that outsiders might mispronounce it as 'oh-ka'? (Where the O is pronounced like the O in 'throw' or 'so')

On Benin, there used to be a Benin province and a Benin division in colonial times so it was probably necessary to distinguish between the city and the larger area that the city was in for a long time by saying 'city,' kind of like how there's NY state and New York City in the U.S. The 'city' part could be removed now, since there's no basis for confusion now, but I would assume people are used to it and probably wouldn't see it as such a big deal.

And yeah, I agree that PH should be renamed - probably after a famous/accomplished Nigerian from that city or Rivers state rather than having it retain the name of a pervert and criminal.

Is your friend related to this guy ('Deebo') by any chance?:

https://msdramatv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tinylister.jpg

killayut: About a million in Ondo and Edo states combined

https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/12/18/28574960-3fb7-467f-b576-ace7d2bea2c8.jpg

A million Ijaws between Ondo and Edo? What's the point of these kind of bizarre claims? Population isn't everything, but I think you actually believe that because it's Nigeria where there is so much deception and hunger for political power by any means from some people, you can just make up numbers.

Not that it's relevant to the thread, but it seems Igbanke has always been called Igbanke. This "Igbo-Akiri" stuff seems to have come about because of the drive to get them to join other Igbos in Delta state and leave Edo state. However, if the Igbanke people themselves corrupted "Igbo-Akiri" to "Igbanke" at some remote time in precolonial history, then people/scholars have failed to record that in official publications. But the point is that there's nothing to suggest that it's some sort of colonial corruption/misspelling or something.

Seun: It was changed to make the spam filter more effective.

I've noticed the same thing in several posts from other users as well, so it's definitely not just me. But how does it make the spam filter more effective?

I don't understand the Benin city example. Benin and Ubini are probably exonyms, but since they are recognized/acknowledged by the actual Edo people, it's not something that really is in need of changing in my opinion. If we don't have a problem with using the name and nobody else does, I don't think there's really a problem there.

Also, what are you saying about the names Owerri and Nsukka? What's the problem there exactly?

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