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I am glad you all have been given the mandate by the people to Govern your individual states.Now it is time to get down to some serious work.I noticed something about the South west and that is that housing is ridiculously expensive.Our people need proper and affordable housing.I have heard that some few individuals in Nigeria hold the monopoly over the production of construction materials so i will like to suggest an alternative to what is currently obtainable.

[size=30pt]Container Housing[/size]

Yes you heard me right,container housing.The containers which are being used to transport cargo on sea vessels are capable of providing affordable housing for low income earning Nigerians.You Governors should do some research on this idea.I believe that there are a lot of Uk/AUS based contaniner housing fabricators you can invite to Nigeria to help you set up an experimental housing development.I am looking forward to the day Nigerians can be able to buy a 3 bedroom house for just N800,000.


These U.K/AUS based fabricators can be invited to Nigeria to build  affordable container homes to train young Niegrian on how to convert container in residential homes.This of cousre will create cheap housing as well as jobs for some unemployed youths.I will also urge you Governors to allocate some parts of your state where afforable land can sold to low incoime earning people.Land especially in Lagos is discouragingly expensive.I am hoping that this situation can be reversed over the next couple of years.

I am aware that some construction companies in Nigeria like Julius berger provide such housing to their staff but what i am talking is not a temporary residence but a fully fitted permanent homes.I have been in contact with some of these U.K/AUS companies and they have told me that they no have problem going to Nigeria to work on such a project.

After studying this container fabrication idea for the past 2 weeks i realized that these containers can be used to build :

Hostels for University Students

Small community Clinics

Small Apartments

2/3 Bedroom Homes

Small Community Libraries

Small Community Schools

The usage potential of containers are limitless and i am sure more people will come up with more ideas for its usage.


Of course as per Nigeria there is the issue of electrocution that one must take into consideration.I remember when i was growing up in Lagos ,several times when our power line were over loaded the electrical cable in from of house will spark and drop to the ground in front of our gate thereby constitution a dangerous hazard to us.I don't know if such is still happening.If it is i will suggest that all electrical cable around the housing development be passed underground inside hardened plastic tubes to prevent electrical leakage in the estate.


Here is a link to a Google images page displaying several pre built container homes and designs:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=container+homes&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1600&bih=1109


One more thing,it may be i am asking for too much but i will love to see you guys build a BULLET TRAIN network that connects all the states of the southwest together.Imagine if i could travel from Lagos to Kwara in just 1hr 30 mins or less.More people working in Lagos will be able to travel home regularly to see their relatives and this will greatly reduce roads accidents not to mention the jobs it will create like Train drivers, Train hosts/Hostesses,Train Chefs e.t.c I know it will be expensive because SA spent $3.3 billion to build it's current bullet train network. However you can commercialize the industry.Let say you get 5 different bullet train companies ,they merge together to build the trains and the tracks after which they run their bullet train service independently.They take the money from the passengers and they pay some sort of tax or percentage to the State Governments of the South west as well as the FG.

I will reserve my comments until this information is confirmed.

cap28:
playmode you've made very good points up there, our people like to follow and believe all the lies that the western media feed us but they forget that the people feeding them these lies have their  own  agenda.

here is what a discerning american journalist had to say about libya:


Dont you find it strange that the western corporate media keep quiet about all that but continue to focus on the fact that he has been in power for 42 years as if the saudi, bahraini and kuwaiti royal family havent been in power for even longer or as if the west has never supported leaders who have been in power for more than 20 years like  Omar Bongo of Gabon, Mobutu of Zaire, Blaise Campaore of Burkina Faso and Paul Biya of Cameroun.

Thanks for that article bro,fascinating read. Hopefully Africans will wake up soon to realize what is actually going on.

Thatdave:
@o.poster biafran war was not premeditated but it did not take us 2 minutes to take to arms! Gaddafi ordered jet fighters to bomb protesters so they took to arms. @poster you can write all the long articles but gaddafi's time is up. Abeg Free US jet fighters. instead of stepping down like a sane man peacefully . the monster decided to throw the whole country into civil war. killing his own people. incuring count charges on himself on the international court of justice. @poster gaddafi has lost his son who led an army in this war he can loose u too.

You are a very unintelligent individual ,so because you disagree with me ,it is you the audacity to wish death upon me.I wonder what is wrong you young kids of today.No respect and no brains.If you do not have anything intelligent to say ,just shut your mouth and for your information stop wishing death on people in an open forum like this or you might just get a surprise of a life time.

1025:
@o.poster and article,
gadahfi can be a god to u and your generation but know it now that change is the only constant thing in life.
why would a mandela endure 27 yrs in prison only to rule just for one tenure and quite? only one african man is normal - mandela. our own old fool ruled as a military and then 8 yrs and the tried shifting the posts for a third term. it is a shame that we worship these goats. mubarak 31 yrs, eyadimma 40yrs and gadhfi thy god 42 yrs. is he the only living being in the country.
trace their accounts, they all have accounts in those countries they preach against. why do u keep telling us that america is bad and wicked yet u have investments there?
poster, u and your gadahfi are all deciets.

1025 ,don't get me wrong.It is wrong of Gadaffi to have ruled for 42 years but just like Fidel Castro of Cuba,if he had not done that the USA would have taken his country to the dumps.If he had stepped down a long time ago ,the USA would have installed a puppet leader on his country and they will have control over all his resources.If he had step down CIA assassins will crawling over his country by now silently assassinating people they feel are a threat to the USA's national security.

The problem with Gadaffi is that his regime is ruthless,they torture and kill opponents.That is his major flaw.However, the world needs men like Gaddaffi ,Fidel castro ,hugo Chavez and the Iranian president to keep the USA in check.

Compared to the west Gadaffi is a lesser evil.Do you you know how many people the CIA and several other covert agencies of the USA has killed all over the world.Take a look at Iraq and Afghanistan today,it is a mess because of the intervention of the west.The west is a parasite and every dangerous one at that.Obama in my book is the biggest traitor to Africans.He boycotted Nigeria ,SA and Kenya when he was first elected trying to show the world that he wanted the best for Africa but today he is proposing to build military bases in Africa,he is starting endless wars in Africa.Tell me what is the difference between Obama and George? Absolutely nothing.He promised to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but instead started a covert war in Congo and a full scale war in Libya.

He is no different from past US presidents.They see Africa as their property and they feel they can manipulate it as they please. Unfortunately we the Africans have cheered them in their campaign to re-enslave us because we know no better.We have swallowed all the garbage that their media CNN and BBC has fed us for years.Whoever they is a terrorist is a terrorist as well in our eyes and whoever they say is a saint is also a saint in our eyes.

We Africans do not use our "church mind" to decipher issues and discover the truth.We just like to be spoon fed lies.Lies that will ultimately destroy our continent and our race.Yes Gaddaffi has ruled for too long and yes he must step down but let the Libyans decide this for themselves.NATO has no business landing troops on Libyans solid ands killing Libyans.Even a 2 year old kid knows that all this uprising in Africa was orchestrated by agents of the west whose intentions are to destabilize the region give the west the perfect opportunity to strike and install their puppets.

I never liked Gadaffi but for the simple fact that he single handedly not to mention generously donate a whooping $300million dollars to ensure that Africans get connected to the world via satellite is a massive achievement on it's own.Do you think IBB,OBJ ,YARA DUA or GEJ can be so generous and selfless? capital NO ,the will instead embezzle the money and stash it in western banks or use it to buy property in the west boosting the economy of the west.

Gadaffi has his faults and i can not deny that but all our past leaders in Nigeria can not match the caliber and patriotism of the man to Africa.

SegzyJoe:
@ KNOW ALL,
You re kiddin me,  Lagos is  by far cheaper than Abuja, houses around my office are sold for [b]N950 million, Ni.3 billion, infact the least you could get in Asokoro is around[b] N600 to 750 million[/b]. So by comparison, Lagos is far cheaper than Abuja.
Am sure no diaspora can afford house in Abuja, except such is part of the looting elites[/b]

Are you serious    How big are those houses? Are those even houses at all or private resorts? I will never put that much money on a house in NIGERIA no matter haw rich i am ,that is just wrong.I heard that some of those old colonial houses in Ikoyi and VI are going for nothing less than N400million because of their location.That is just crazy.

ROSSIK:
BULLSHIIT. The minute you come with this ''blacks are bad, whites are angels'' HORSESHIIT, I will call you out.

I've literally had it up to HERE with people like you who seem to think white folks are something they are NOT.

Get this. Whites show off just as much as blacks, if not MORE. The problem with people like you is that you have a COMPLEX. When you see black folks ''living large'', it seems ''unnatural''  to you. Afterall aren't we all supposed to be broke and destitute according to CNN?

But if a white boy drives by in a Lamborghini or Rolls, it's ''ok''. Nothing to worry about.

On Oscar Awards nights, how many blacks do you see stepping out of top-of-the-range Limos in $60,000 gowns and suits?? Is it not mostly whites?

You don't even notice when they bling.  But a black man drives by in a Merc or Beemer, and ''he is showing off''. Sorry. We reject that. Get rid of your complex and stop disturbing us.

Oh please shut your trap and stop trying to appear like you are 7 foot tall. Learn to read and comprehend. Read my first comment 10 times over and maybe you will comprehend. It seems it is you who has inferiority complex because you have blown my comments out of proportion. Please point to where i made whites seem like angels?

Please use simple logic when you are debating and stop screaming like a child who is about to be circumcised. You are twisting my words in order to score cheap points and appear to other NLers on this thread that you are the better man. This is a sensible debate not a popularity contest. I am not surprised since you are one of GEJ supporters,  like your boss GEJ no logic is applied;all you do is “wururu to the answer”.

My point is very simple to understand if all your brain cells are functioning adequately. Take Nigeria as an example, politicians who embezzle money will spend in an obscene way while others starve. They will even build a $10 million dollar home in a remote village where their next door neighbor has a 2 bedroom mud hut. Rather than contribute to the development of the whole community , they  will tar only the road leading to their home.

Another example is the recent 50years celebration where your mentor (GEJ) squandered over N10billion to celebrate a failed nation. The money used to celebrate our 50 years as nation could have been used to improve electricity. But the common African mentality “embezzle and waste while others suffers” which i am sure your boss GEJ has will not let him do the right thing.

This has got nothing to do with complex, this is instead a comparison of societies. Western societies are materialistic but they develop their countries. African societies are materialistic but they do not develop their societies.

While there is greed in the west and amongst their people , they do their best to ensure that their countries are developed and that everyone has a fair chance to make it. They take care of their people. African countries do not do that , they only favour the elites (politicians and the wealthy).

You talk about the royal wedding ,can you compare the U.K to any country in Africa apart from SA? Do you hear of the prime minister of Britain embezzling money? The U.K has good infrastructure and there is social welfare for their people.Can you compare that to a country like zimbabwe where Mugabe lives in opulence but his people are dying of starvation everyday.Can you compare that to the way Mobutu seseko plundered Congo resources but his people lived in abject poverty? Can you compare that to the way BP cleaned up the oil spill in the US within 90 days but the Niger Delta has been continuously polluted for the past 30 years with no end in sight?

Do you see westerners queuing up in their thousands at African embassies trying to get a visa? Capital NO

But i am sure you see Nigerians and Africans queuing up in their MILLIONS at various western embassies because the west offers them a better life.

Have you ever head of a Nigerian Visa lottery or African visa lottery? capital NO

But i am sure you have heard of the American visa lottery and you know a few people who have used the lottery to "escape" out of Nigeria.

Got my point now? Jeez ! If you still don’t understand the message i am trying get across to you , then i suggest you contact me so i can enrol you in the nearest nursery school where you can learn the basics, ABC and all. Stop being melodramatic when you are debating, it makes you sound gay. Are you gay by any chance?I tried to be civil with you but you obviously come from the deepest part of the forest so civility is not in your genes.

It is time for us to spread the crusade all over Africa. Without the generosity of Gadaffi , Africa may be still be lacking internet today. This man Gaddaffi had many flaws but he was always about a united Africa and a progressive Africa. If you look at Libya before the uprising ,the citizens were doing ok ,i mean in comparison to Nigeria .Libyan citizens had good medical care ,good roads, internet access, running water good roads and they enjoyed a relatively good life.

This Americans and French orchestrated this uprising because they were scared of the influence he was wielding in Africa. I am going to start a face book page and post this article there, please email it to your friends on facebook and let it spread. If we do not stand together and fight the west, they will re-enslave Africa again with the puppets they are installing in African states.

Furthermore i am proposing that African countries that have been suffering from ethnic violence like Nigeria ,Cote d voire, DRC should split their countries along tribal lines so we can have peace and be forever united as Africans. The west used divide and rule tactics to en-slave us mentally. They amalgamated different tribes to create these countries and today these countries are constantly plagued by ethnic violence. We know the solutions to our problems but we do not try to solve it.

I am stating here today that i am going to dedicate my life to this cause. Someone has to do it to secure the future of our unborn generations. I have made plans to start my own youtube channel and speak on this matter. I would use every tool available to me to spread the message across Africa. The west must leave Africa. Africom must leave Africa. The CIA and NSA must leave Africa. Aluta continua!

vladimiros:
you might call it the west

but don`t be surprised if Nigeria becomes the 1st african nation in NATO,

don`t be surprised

After reading this article ,i certainly hope not.The fact is Africa has the most resources on the planet and the world cannot survive without Africa.The Nigeria should do is join the terrorist group known as NATO.If we do that, we will become traitors to Africa and the black race.It is time for the rise of the Black Empire and we have to join hands to make it happen.


[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=654637.msg8209440#msg8209440 date=1303848836]So glad the light is finally being shared. God bless you Playmode![/quote]Thank you and God bless you too bk.babe97y ,please email this article to every African or black person you know.Let us start creating the awareness so our people can be informed and mentally strong to take on and stop the attempted re-colonization of Africa.

I never knew Gadaffi did this much for Africans.Given he is a kuku man but he probably means well for Africa.Screw Obama and Sarchozy ,they are bunch of slave masters.I knew something was fishy with the way the French suddenly started intervening in African matters with their military.The USA and Europe is now a penniless dump so they want to squeeze as much juice as they can from Africa.Let us hope our dundee president grows some balls like Gadaffi and tell them to shove their foreign aid up their behinds.

The Lies Behind the West's War on Libya

By Jean-Paul Pougala

April 21, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- It was Gaddafi's Libya that offered all of Africa its first revolution in modern times “ connecting the entire continent by telephone, television, radio broadcasting and several other technological applications such as telemedicine and distance teaching. And thanks to the WMAX radio bridge, a low cost connection was made available across the continent, including in rural areas.

It began in 1992, when 45 African nations established RASCOM (Regional African Satellite Communication Organization) so that Africa would have its own satellite and slash communication costs in the continent. This was a time when phone calls to and from Africa were the most expensive in the world because of the annual US$500 million fee pocketed by Europe for the use of its satellites like Intelsat for phone conversations, including those within the same country.

An African satellite only cost a onetime payment of US$400 million and the continent no longer had to pay a US$500 million annual lease. Which banker wouldn't finance such a project? But the problem remained “ how can slaves, seeking to free themselves from their master's exploitation ask the master's help to achieve that freedom? Not surprisingly, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the USA, Europe only made vague promises for 14 years. Gaddafi put an end to these futile pleas to the western benefactors with their exorbitant interest rates. The Libyan guide put US$300 million on the table; the African Development Bank added US$50 million more and the West African Development Bank a further US$27 million “ and that's how Africa got its first communications satellite on 26 December 2007.

China and Russia followed suit and shared their technology and helped launch satellites for South Africa, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria and a second African satellite was launched in July 2010. The first totally indigenously built satellite and manufactured on African soil, in Algeria, is set for 2020. This satellite is aimed at competing with the best in the world, but at ten times less the cost, a real challenge.

This is how a symbolic gesture of a mere US$300 million changed the life of an entire continent. Gaddafi's Libya cost the West, not just depriving it of US$500 million per year but the billions of dollars in debt and interest that the initial loan would generate for years to come and in an exponential manner, thereby helping maintain an occult system in order to plunder the continent.

African Monetary Fund, African Central Bank, African Investment Bank

The US$30 billion frozen by Mr Obama belong to the Libyan Central Bank and had been earmarked as the Libyan contribution to three key projects which would add the finishing touches to the African federation “ the African Investment Bank in Syrte, Libya, the establishment in 2011 of the African Monetary Fund to be based in Yaounde with a US$42 billion capital fund and the Abuja-based African Central Bank in Nigeria which when it starts printing African money will ring the death knell for the CFA franc through which Paris has been able to maintain its hold on some African countries for the last fifty years. It is easy to understand the French wrath against Gaddafi.

The African Monetary Fund is expected to totally supplant the African activities of the International Monetary Fund which, with only US$25 billion, was able to bring an entire continent to its knees and make it swallow questionable privatisation like forcing African countries to move from public to private monopolies. No surprise then that on 16-17 December 2010, the Africans unanimously rejected attempts by Western countries to join the African Monetary Fund, saying it was open only to African nations.

It is increasingly obvious that after Libya, the western coalition will go after Algeria, because apart from its huge energy resources, the country has cash reserves of around $150 billion. This is what lures the countries that are bombing Libya and they all have one thing in common “ they are practically bankrupt. The USA alone, has a staggering debt of $US14,000 billion, France, Great Britain and Italy each have a US$2,000 billion public deficit compared to less than US$400 billion in public debt for 46 African countries combined.

I[b]nciting spurious wars in Africa in the hope that this will revitalise their economies which are sinking ever more into the doldrums will ultimately hasten the western decline which actually began in 1884 during the notorious Berlin Conference. [/b]As the American economist Adam Smith predicted in 1865 when he publicly backed Abraham Lincoln for the abolition of slavery, ‘the economy of any country which relies on the slavery of blacks is destined to descend into hell the day those countries awaken.

Regional Unity as an Obstacle to the Creation of a United States of Africa

To destabilise and destroy the African union which was veering dangerously (for the West) towards a United States of Africa under the guiding hand of Gaddafi, the European Union first tried, unsuccessfully, to create the Union for the Mediterranean (UPM). North Africa somehow had to be cut off from the rest of Africa, using the old tired racist cliches of the 18th and 19th centuries ,which claimed that Africans of Arab origin were more evolved and civilised than the rest of the continent. This failed because Gaddafi refused to buy into it. He soon understood what game was being played when only a handful of African countries were invited to join the Mediterranean grouping without informing the African Union but inviting all 27 members of the European Union.

Without the driving force behind the African Federation, the UPM failed even before it began, still-born with Sarkozy as president and Mubarak as vice president. The French foreign minister, Alain Juppe is now attempting to re-launch the idea, banking no doubt on the fall of Gaddafi. What African leaders fail to understand is that as long as the European Union continues to finance the African Union, the status quo will remain, because no real independence. This is why the European Union has encouraged and financed regional groupings in Africa.

It is obvious that the West African Economic Community (ECOWAS), which has an embassy in Brussels and depends for the bulk of its funding on the European Union, is a vociferous opponent to the African federation. That’s why Lincoln fought in the US war of secession because the moment a group of countries come together in a regional political organisation, it weakens the main group. That is what Europe wanted and the Africans have never understood the game plan, creating a plethora of regional groupings, COMESA, UDEAC, SADC, and the Great Maghreb which never saw the light of day thanks to Gaddafi who understood what was happening.

Gaddafi, the African Who Cleansed the Continent from the Humiliation of Apartheid

For most Africans, Gaddafi is a generous man, a humanist, known for his unselfish support for the struggle against the racist regime in South Africa. If he had been an egotist, he wouldn't have risked the wrath of the West to help the ANC both militarily and financially in the fight against apartheid. This was why Mandela, soon after his release from 27 years in jail, decided to break the UN embargo and travel to Libya on 23 October 1997. For five long years, no plane could touch down in Libya because of the embargo. One needed to take a plane to the Tunisian city of Jerba and continue by road for five hours to reach Ben Gardane, cross the border and continue on a desert road for three hours before reaching Tripoli. The other solution was to go through Malta, and take a night ferry on ill-maintained boats to the Libyan coast. A hellish journey for a whole people, simply to punish one man.

Mandela didn't mince his words when the former US president Bill Clinton said the visit was an unwelcome one ˜No country can claim to be the policeman of the world and no state can dictate to another what it should do. He added ˜Those that yesterday were friends of our enemies have the gall today to tell me not to visit my brother Gaddafi, they are advising us to be ungrateful and forget our friends of the past.

Indeed, the West still considered the South African racists to be their brothers who needed to be protected. That's why the members of the ANC, including Nelson Mandela, were considered to be dangerous terrorists. It was only on 2 July 2008, that the US Congress finally voted a law to remove the name of Nelson Mandela and his ANC comrades from their black list, not because they realised how silly that list was but because they wanted to mark Mandela's 90th birthday. If the West was truly sorry for its past support for Mandela's enemies and really sincere when they name streets and places after him, how can they continue to wage war against someone who helped Mandela and his people to be victorious, Gaddafi?

Are Those Who Want to Export Democracy Themselves Democrats?

And what if Gaddafi's Libya were more democratic than the USA, France, Britain and other countries waging war to export democracy to Libya? On 19 March 2003, President George Bush began bombing Iraq under the pretext of bringing democracy. On 19 March 2011, exactly eight years later to the day, it was the French president's turn to rain down bombs over Libya, once again claiming it was to bring democracy. Nobel peace prize-winner and US President Obama says unleashing cruise missiles from submarines is to oust the dictator and introduce democracy.

The question that anyone with even minimum intelligence cannot help asking is the following: Are countries like France, England, the USA, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Poland who defend their right to bomb Libya on the strength of their self proclaimed democratic status really democratic? If yes, are they more democratic than Gaddafi’s Libya? The answer in fact is a resounding NO, for the plain and simple reason that democracy doesn’t exist. This isn’t a personal opinion, but a quote from someone whose native town Geneva, hosts the bulk of UN institutions. The quote is from Jean Jacques Rousseau, born in Geneva in 1712 and who writes in chapter four of the third book of the famous Social Contract that there never was a true democracy and there never will be.

Rousseau sets out the following four conditions for a country to be labelled a democracy and according to these Gaddafi's Libya is far more democratic than the USA, France and the others claiming to export democracy:

1. The State: The bigger a country, the less democratic it can be. According to Rousseau, the state has to be extremely small so that people can come together and know each other. Before asking people to vote, one must ensure that everybody knows everyone else, otherwise voting will be an act without any democratic basis, a simulacrum of democracy to elect a dictator.

The Libyan state is based on a system of tribal allegiances, which by definition group people together in small entities. The democratic spirit is much more present in a tribe, a village than in a big country, simply because people know each other, share a common life rhythm which involves a kind of self-regulation or even self-censorship in that the reactions and
counter reactions of other members impacts on the group.

From this perspective, it would appear that Libya fits Rousseau's conditions better than the USA, France and Great Britain, all highly urbanised societies where most neighbours don't even say hello to each other and therefore don't know each other even if they have lived side by side for twenty years. These countries leapfrogged leaped into the next stage of the votes“ which has been cleverly sanctified to obfuscate the fact that voting on the future of the country is useless if the voter doesn't know the other citizens. This has been pushed to ridiculous limits with voting rights being given to people living abroad. Communicating with and amongst each other is a precondition for any democratic debate before an election.


2. Simplicity in customs and behavioural patterns are also essential if one is to avoid spending the bulk of the time debating legal and judicial procedures in order to deal with the multitude of conflicts of interest inevitable in a large and complex society. Western countries define themselves as civilised nations with a more complex social structure whereas Libya is described as a primitive country with a simple set of customs. This aspect too indicates that Libya responds better to Rousseau's democratic criteria than all those trying to give lessons in democracy. Conflicts in complex societies are most often won by those with more power, which is why the rich manage to avoid prison because they can afford to hire top lawyers and instead arrange for state repression to be directed against someone one who stole a banana in a supermarket rather than a financial criminal who ruined a bank. In the city of New York for example where 75 per cent of the population is white, 80 per cent of management posts are occupied by whites who make up only 20 per cent of incarcerated people.

3. Equality in status and wealth: A look at the Forbes 2010 list shows who the richest people in each of the countries currently bombing Libya are and the difference between them and those who earn the lowest salaries in those nations; a similar exercise on Libya will reveal that in terms of wealth distribution, Libya has much more to teach than those fighting it now, and not the contrary. So here too, using Rousseau's criteria, Libya is more democratic than the nations pompously pretending to bring democracy. In the USA, 5 per cent of the population owns 60 per cent of the national wealth, making it the most unequal and unbalanced society in the world.

4. No luxuries: according to Rousseau there can't be any luxury if there is to be democracy. Luxury, he says, makes wealth a necessity which then becomes a virtue in itself, it, and not the welfare of the people becomes the goal to be reached at all cost,Luxury corrupts both the rich and the poor, the one through possession and the other through envy; it makes the nation soft and prey to vanity; it distances people from the State and enslaves them, making them a slave to opinion.

Is there more luxury in France than in Libya? The reports on employees committing suicide because of stressful working conditions even in public or semi-public companies, all in the name of maximising profit for a minority and keeping them in luxury, happen in the West, not in Libya.

The American sociologist C. Wright Mills wrote in 1956 that American democracy was a dictatorship of the elites. According to Mills, the USA is not a democracy because it is money that talks during elections and not the people. The results of each election are the expression of the voice of money and not the voice of the people. After Bush senior and Bush junior, they are already talking about a younger Bush for the 2012 Republican primaries. Moreover, as Max Weber pointed out, since political power is dependent on the bureaucracy, the US has 43 million bureaucrats and military personnel who effectively rule the country but without being elected and are not accountable to the people for their actions. One person (a rich one) is elected, but the real power lies with the caste of the wealthy who then get nominated to be ambassadors, generals, etc.


How many people in these self-proclaimed democracies know that Peru’s constitution prohibits an outgoing president from seeking a second consecutive mandate? How many know that in Guatemala, not only can an outgoing president not seek re-election to the same post, no one from that person’s family can aspire to the top job either? Or that Rwanda is the only country in the world that has 56 per cent female parliamentarians? How many people know that in the 2007 CIA index, four of the world’s best-governed countries are African? That the top prize goes to Equatorial Guinea whose public debt represents only 1.14 per cent of GDP?


Rousseau maintains that civil wars, revolts and rebellions are the ingredients of the beginning of democracy. Because democracy is not an end, but a permanent process of the reaffirmation of the natural rights of human beings which in countries all over the world (without exception) are trampled upon by a handful of men and women who have hijacked the power of the people to perpetuate their supremacy. There are here and there groups of people who have usurped the term democracy instead of it being an ideal towards which one strives it has become a label to be appropriated or a slogan which is used by people who can shout louder than others. If a country is calm, like France or the USA, that is to say without any rebellions, it only means, from Rousseau's perspective, that the dictatorial system is sufficiently repressive to pre-empt any revolt.


It wouldn't be a bad thing if the Libyans revolted. What is bad is to affirm that people stoically accept a system that represses them all over the world without reacting. And Rousseau concludes: Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium “ translation“ If gods were people, they would govern themselves democratically. Such a perfect government is not applicable to human beings. To claim that one is killing Libyans for their own good is a hoax.

What Lessons for Africa?

After 500 years of a profoundly unequal relationship with the West, it is clear that we don't have the same criteria of what is good and bad. We have deeply divergent interests. How can one not deplore the a yes votes from three sub-Saharan countries (Nigeria, South Africa and Gabon) for resolution 1973 that inaugurated the latest form of colonisation baptised the protection of peoples, which legitimises the racist theories that have informed Europeans since the 18th century and according to which North Africa has nothing to do with sub-Saharan Africa, that North Africa is more evolved, cultivated and civilised than the rest of Africa?

It is as if Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Algeria were not part of Africa, Even the United Nations seems to ignore the role of the African Union in the affairs of member states. The aim is to isolate sub Saharan African countries to better isolate and control them. Indeed, Algeria (US$16 billion) and Libya (US$10 billion ) together contribute 62 per cent of the US$42 billion which constitute the capital of the African Monetary Fund (AMF). The biggest and most populous country in sub Saharan Africa, Nigeria, followed by South Africa are far behind with only 3 billion dollars each.

It is disconcerting to say the least that for the first time in the history of the United Nations, war has been declared against a people without having explored the slightest possibility of a peaceful solution to the crisis. Does Africa really belong anymore to this organisation? Nigeria and South Africa are prepared to vote a Yes to everything the West asks because they naively believe the vague promises of a permanent seat at the Security Council with similar veto rights. They both forget that France has no power to offer anything. If it did, Mitterand would have long done the needful for Helmut Kohla's Germany.

A reform of the United Nations is not on the agenda. The only way to make a point is to use the Chinese method for all 50 African nations should quit the United Nations and only return if their longstanding demand is finally met, a seat for the entire African federation or nothing. This non-violent method is the only weapon of justice available to the poor and weak that we are. We should simply quit the United Nations because this organisation, by its very structure and hierarchy, is at the service of the most powerful.

We should leave the United Nations to register our rejection of a worldview based on the annihilation of those who are weaker. They are free to continue as before but at least we will not be party to it and say we agree when we were never asked for our opinion. And even when we expressed our point of view, like we did on Saturday 19 March in Nouakchott, when we opposed the military action, our opinion was simply ignored and the bombs started falling on the African people.

Today's events are reminiscent of what happened with China in the past. Today, one recognises the Ouattara government, the rebel government in Libya, like one did at the end of the Second World War with China. The so-called international community chose Taiwan to be the sole representative of the Chinese people instead of Maoa's China. It took 26 years when on 25 October 1971, for the UN to pass resolution 2758 which all Africans should read to put an end to human folly. China was admitted and on its terms – it refused to be a member if it didn’t have a veto right. When the demand was met and the resolution tabled, it still took a year for the Chinese foreign minister to respond in writing to the UN Secretary General on 29 September 1972, a letter which didn't say yes or thank you but spelt out guarantees required for China’s dignity to be respected.

What does Africa hope to achieve from the United Nations without playing hard ball? We saw how in Cote da Ivoire a UN bureaucrat considers himself to be above the constitution of the country. We entered this organisation by agreeing to be slaves and to believe that we will be invited to dine at the same table and eat from plates we ourselves washed is not just credulous, it is silly.

When the African Union endorsed Ouattara's victory and glossed over contrary reports from its own electoral observers simply to please our former masters, how can we expect to be respected? When South African president Zuma declares that Ouattara hasn't won the elections and then says the exact opposite during a trip to Paris, one is entitled to question the credibility of these leaders who claim to represent and speak on behalf of a billion Africans.

Africa's strength and real freedom will only come if it can take properly thought out actions and assume the consequences. Dignity and respect come with a price tag. Are we prepared to pay it? Otherwise, our place is in the kitchen and in the toilets in order to make others comfortable.

Source : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27936.htm

Rossikk:
playmode said


Stop talking rubbish. It is not a ''color'' thing. In England there is strong demarcation on the basis of ''class''. Millions of people live above their means and have maxed out their credit. In their offices, they compete on who visited the most exotic places for holidays. Neighbours try to out do each other in the posh cars they have parked on the driveway. In France the same. In America, whites are every bit as materialistic as blacks. In fact more so. In India, the rich always make sure they are seen in ''the right places'', and that their kids attend Harvard rather than some ''local'' Indian university etc etc etc. So you need to disabuse your mind of the notion that the ''I be big boy'' mentality is a black thing. And I've no idea what you mean by African Americans' ''hood mentality''. I suspect you don't either but are just mouthing the usual ludicrous stereotypical gibberish.

Easy bro ,no need to be aggressively defensive.I did not say it is a black only thing,i meant that the attitude of "i big pass you" is common in black communities.Whites do spend a lot and they are materialistic but they do not show off the way we blacks do.A good example is the President of SA Mr Jacob Zuma. 2 weeks after he was elected his daughter had a birthday party at the cost of N10 million in one night.

The same daughter did her wedding this weekend and she hired 12 Lamborghinis for her convoy.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article1035140.ece/12-Lamborghinis-ready-for-Zuma-wedding

http://multimedia.timeslive.co.za/photos/2011/04/the-guests-of-honour-at-duduzile-zuma-wedding/

The price of that wedding is estimated to be above N200 MILLION.The nephew of Mr Zuma is also embroiled in a mining scandal where he is alleged to have had squandered the of funds of a so called Aurora mining company.

If you see Zuma's nephew you will be shocked at how obscenely fat he is.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/opinion/letters/article580535.ece/Khulubuse-Zuma-does-not-use-his-connections

He is said to be worth over $100 million.The mining company is now close to being bankrupt and the miners are frustrated but this individual who goes by the name of Khulubuse zuma resides in a $10 million dollar home and drives the Mercedes  SL66 AMG ,a car valued at over N20 million.As far as i can tell African leaders and Africans are way more extravagant than any other race on the planet.And to make matters worse African countries are always below standard in terms of development.

I don't think you will find a white ruled country where the leaders are ridiculously extravagant like a black ruled or Arab ruled country.Take a look at USA's hip hop culture ,African American and rappers like to show off with million dollar bling ,multi million dollar homes but they do not help their local community where gang banging has destroyed the lives of many.Instead they use their music to promote oppression/abuse of women and the poor.My point is we Africans like to show off but we do not help each other or those in need.We prefer to oppress than to help.

I don't think you will find any white musician or music genre that disrespects women as much as hip hop.Here is a you tube video for you see to what hood mentality is like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqla6gvq6rI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votkxZibYYU

I don't feel inferior to whites or anything ,i just feel that we Africans need to improve on our culture and general behavior so that we can have a better continent that will benefit us on the long run.This "i be big boy" mentality is what has led our country down the party of insatiable greed and massive corruption.

obowunmi:
Nigerians are elitists --- the more expensive your business, you will be quickly labeled the "hottest restaurant" to eat or "hottest place to shop" ---- even if you provide quality and dare to be priced cheap, I'm sorry for you: you will be labeled "local" --- I mean imagine primary schools going for 2 million naira and everyone sends their kids there because its the "hottest" place to be. In fact, Parents will be bragging that the school is NOT xpensive enough. suffers from xtreme capitalism, you get less for spending more. As they say, level pass level.

Well said,that is what is killing us in Nigeria. "I get money pass you" mentality or " I be big boy" mentality.To be honest i believe the mentality is not exclusive to Nigerians only ,i feel it is common amongst black people.Just take a look at African Americans and their hood mentality.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=216178.msg8206309#msg8206309 date=1303812633]Exactly. Not practical for a single home, more for a residential estate (of fairly rich people who consume lots of electricity.)

This was another caveat that the guy sort of pointed out to me. Ota isn't very highbrow. He thinks it might be a better idea to do it in somewhere like Lekki. Thing though is that Shell doesn't have any control of gas distribution in Lekki; Oando is responsible.

His own suggestion of the way to do this in Ota to build an estate near one of the universities. Share electricity with them. That way it is easier to get to this 1 MW consumption threshold.

But yeah, not really an immediately practical idea, something you can just do by yourself.[/quote]You know this is something the government should be looking into if they were serious about solving the power problem.We have so much gas in Nigeria but none of these professors in power have come up with a clever idea like this to power Nigerian homes.All they will  be doing is speaking big grammar on Tv and seting up useless not to mention time wasting commissions .Who is the minister of energy by the way?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=216178.msg8206141#msg8206141 date=1303810334]In short, it was a questionable idea not because Shell won't pipeline the gas to your site (they do this, I called the guy on the phone to confirm that what the Shell website says is accurate), but because you need to consume roughly $1100 of gas a day for it to be economical for them.

Easy to do if you do any sort of manufacturing.

Impossible as a single homeowner.

However, a large enough collection of homeowners will. A smaller collection of homeowners with say a bank+restaurant+church nearby also will. Etc, etc.

I dunno how the judges would score this. . . I'll let them speak and decide [/quote]That is a very good suggestion ,maybe a residential estate can do this for all the owners within it's estate but $1100 per day is a lot of consumption even for a factory.If i am not mistaken ,that is at least N100,000 per day and at least N3,000,000 per month

You need to power a whole town to be able to achieve that.

Big B1:
Rule number 1: If you don't want to fail face down, don't ever copy anybody's move or compare anyone's situation to yours when you're planning to return back to Nigeria.
Rule number 2: Before making your final decision, come and test drive Nigeria for at least 6 months.
Rule number 3: Don't ever make your final decision to return to Nigeria based on someone's promise to assist you in anyway.
Rule number 4: As the man, be the first to return while your family prepares to join you (at least in a year or 2)
Rule number 5: Don't be scared to meet good people, but try not to sweat anybody regardless of what they have or who they are; just be yourself @ all time.
Rule number 6: Cut your shirt according to your size, don't look like a clown.
Rule number 7: Be fair, but don't be too nice to your employees (or else your employees will see you as a mugu)
Final rule: Please don't move to Ota.

Great Advice!

@ekt bear  ,Please be careful about going home.I almost went home two years ago.My family told me so many nice stories about naija just to get me to relocate.I did my own research and alas i found out that it will be difficult for me to cope if i dont test drive naija.Our familes always want to put pressure on us to come home early but never listen to them 100% or they will mislead you.My mum the other day my was telling me that i should bring my kids homes so they can come and stay with her,in my mind ,i just said "story story' ,i won't fall that family trap ever.If my kids can not get AFFORDABLE GOOD education in najia then.I am not about to pay N500,000 for school fees.

Tpiah:
That local looking house is what somebody is boasting about?

I doubt this playmode is nigerian.

I guess the word hilltop is what's tripping you here. You feel like it puts you in the same league as obj or ibb with their own hilltop mansions, right?

Haba ,that house is local? Thank you ,monkey no fine but him mama like am.why will i want to be in the league of IBB or OBJ? Those guys stole the money they used to build their house ,i suffered and worked hard to get to where i am today. If was a loaded multi millionaire i won’t be struggling to finish the house,  i would have finished it since last year and moved in. Right now i am living hand to mouth just to make sure i finish the house before December.

Having a hilltop house is SA is not a big deal .Here hilltop homes don’t trip anybody, it is a matter of choice. Too many people here have hilltop homes ,it is not like Nigeria where hilltop homes are for a select few. Some people don’t even like hill top homes because it is extremely difficult to build on it. The contractors sometimes use explosives to blow up some of the parts where the rock is very hard or sloppy so they can lay the foundation. Be honest if it was in Nigeria the house will cost me more than N70mill! By the way i am 190% Nigerian of Ekiti/Ondo descent so please don’t question or doubt my nationality in future.

What  we are discussing on this thread is very simple and for once there is no need for fights. Nigeria makes life difficult and unbearable for its own citizens. Let me give you a quick low down on SA.

SA Government provides free housing for people earning below N70,000 per month free of charge. This houses are called RDP houses. You can google it.SA Government provides free land to those earning above N70,000 but less than N120,000  per month. The minimum wage here is N60,000 per month. If you earn above R120,000 (R6000 in SA currency) per months you can get a laond from the bank to buy a house.

SA provides free medical care for citizens and foreigners including their children. Electricity does not blink for a second, water is running non stop. If you are hard working and you have a plan to succeed, you can make it here in SA within a short time.  Come and check out Nigerian doctors, Lawyers , Pilots and businessmen here living in multi million dollar homes. Even African Americans are living here in very large homes because property is way cheaper here than the US. The likes of Oprah , Samuel  L Jackson even Late M.J all have homes here. I am not saying SA is heaven ,i am just saying SA gives everyone a fair chance to live a good life. That can not be said about Nigeria. Now answer this question:  Have you ever had electricity in Nigeria for 7 days straight in the past 5 years?

@KoboJunkie
The brief i gave to my architect is that i want an ultra modern home with straight lines and a flat  roof. I am a tech junkie so i like modern designs and modern art .I showed him a couple of other homes which were already built in SA and Sydney (Australia) so he drew design ideas from there. The guy is very good. My wife was not keen on the design at first when it was on paper  but when the house started to take shape she saw and agreed with my vision.

@Ekt bear thanks bra!

KnowAll:
Most disaporans will like to settle back home but for the hyper and over inflated prices people pay for necessities of life. Some examples


1. Why are pepole paying N700, 000.00 for a 1991 Honda Accord when in the UK u can buy that kind of car for £250.00 - N50,000.00 in the auction or £400.00 or N80,000.00  IN THE OPEN MARKET.

2. The house prices on the island is out of this world even well paid diasporans find it extortionist. You buy a house in say lekki for between N50 to 100 million that is between £250,000.00 and £500,000.00. Can you imagine paying that kind of money and your neigbours are a mechanic village, a few small block making firm and a  mammy market selling pepper and tomotoes . This kind of  loop-sided development that is taken place in lekki has to be addressed.  Most diasporans will rather use that kind of money to buy in choice areas in london, New york , and miami. You could get beuitiful condone in miami beach for less than that.

3. Take your mobile phone calls just damn to costly. I can remember using N3,000.00 CREDIT just having a normal tel chat with a freind the las time I was in Nija this has to be addressed.

4. Going out to choice areas to have a meal, I remember going to some joint in VI and a plate of pepper soup is N3,500.00 for one small peice of fish.  Haba how much is fish in lagos all these business men for lagos na go kill person oh.

5. Lets talk about clothes that is a no go area for diasporans that settle in nija, aint nothing like Sale ANYMORE. You go to those little boutiques in lagos and buy a jeans for N50,000.00 u go there 2 days later u will be charged N75,000.00.

The problem with Nigerian businessmen if they have not made 1000% profit they no go sell we should refrain from this kind of mentality to what obtains all over the world. A consistent modest profit is better than a one off massive profit.

I agree with you know All , everything you have said is 100% true.I just hate the way lagos is ridiculously expensive. I have been trying for the past 2 years to buy a property in Lekki  but all the property they have shown me so far are not even worth the price they are asking for. One Nigerian seller was asking me for N100 million for a house that  has only 4 bedrooms  with no pool on  a very small piece of land.

After searching for months i decided to build a house instead in South Africa on a hilltop which will cost me the equivalent of N70 Million naira and the house is bigger and more beautiful than most of the homes in Lekki.

By the time it is completed ,it will boast 6 bedrooms, 2 lounges ,5 bathrooms,2 dining areas, rock pool, Gym ,staff quarters, office, Entrance hall, hilltop 360 degrees view  deck ,outdoor gas Braai (grill stand),Gourmet kitchen, electronic access gate,2 bedroom flatlet and a home theatre  room.

If my house was in Lekki  ,i am sure i will spend not less than N150 million before it is completed if not more. Building a property in SA is very cheap as compared to Lagos. You get more for  your money. The house is 84 % complete ,i  am hoping that i get enough funds to complete it before December so i can move in. I have attached a picture so you can see what i am talking about.

My family is still angry that i am building a house in SA instead of naija but i just ignored them. Why should  i waste my hard earned funds on a poorly built tiny house in Lekki that will probably be flooded in the rainy season not to mention the fact that ,i won’t have electricity except i buy a gen. I want to live in a hassle free environment where electricity is constant  and there is efficient drainage systems.

I am sorry but Lagos does not cut it for me. Maybe in the future when naija gets its act together ,then i will consider buying a home there.

Another thing i like about SA is the internet.I get unlimited internet for just N20,000 per month.That means unlimited download of movies ,games ,indecency e.t.c at the speed of at least 4Mbps all day day long for 30 days non stop.We call it ADSL uncapped.

I must say however that food is way cheaper in Nigeria than SA. A plate of Ogbono here costs a minimum of N500 and that is from a cheap middle class restaurant.Cars are way cheaper here than naija,the only problem is that the cars are right hand drives like the U.k so it is pointless to export them to naija.

Local calls here are cheap but internationals calls are not.

[quote author=Nwa_Nimo link=topic=654051.msg8202895#msg8202895 date=1303759231]Yes

Problem is the North will 'Rig' the outcome of the vote with underage voters.[/quote]They cannot rig because separate elections will be held in each region.Like someone said even if the north says they want a united Nigeria ,they can not stop a separation if the other regions do not want to be part of Nigeria.

Another issue i will like to speak about is the issue of border control.Many people on NL feel that if Nigeria splits , the new nations should have open borders and people should be allowed to move freely between the new countries.If we intend to have open borders after we split then it is pointless for us split.

I feel each nation should have strict border control.Igbos in Odua should be mandated to obtain resident permits before they can reside in ODUA. Odua should also issue computerized birth certificates and I.Ds which will contain a social security number to their citizens and keep a digital database of their citizens so that foreigners do not gain access to welfare programs e.t.c The other nation should also do the same otherwise violence will erupt if Igbos are enjoying benefits like government Housing,medical aid,welfare grant,free education which are meant for Odua citizens only.We should also do away with naturalization which means a biafra ,Arewa or Nd citizen will never become a naturalized citizen of Odua even he has resided in Odua for more than 50 years.The highest permit we should give to non citizens is a 5 year residence permit which must be renewed every 5 years.We must have an efficient immigration system to ensure that our citizens are protected and our country is not overrun by immigrants.It is because of good immigration services that the USA and the U.K are able to take care of their citizens properly.

I am glad people are starting to realize that is what we need.I am planning on building a website that will be dedicated to this referendum.The website may feature a mini forum where people can share ideas.I need your suggestions on what i should name the website e.g www.splitnigerianow.com e.t.c

I think the violence in the north is getting out of hand and it is obvious that our Government can not curtail it.I feel it is better we vote for a split.We need a break from each other.This 50 year experiment has failed woefully and we are just living a lie right now.Jonathan will go down in history books if he can he can do this for Nigerians.Jonathan call for a national conference and let Nigerians vote and choose whether they want to stay together as one nation or not.

ola olabiy:
Sarcasm bro.

If so ,i am sorry.I just get all hot and ready to pop off some shells when i hear about these rotten cretins using GOD's name in vain to steal from innocent people.

[quote author=Jon.Bee link=topic=653139.msg8189892#msg8189892 date=1303581905]touch not my anointed[/quote]Abeg go siddon with this your anointed excreta .People like you make me sick.You guys will see a pastor having extra marital affairs,still you will say "touch not my anointed".Do you think GOD supports him stealing from other people? Grow a brain ,use your initiative and stop using GOD's name in vain. Nigerians are wiser now,all this fake men of GOD are being exposed and disgraced one by one.Most gullible Nigerians like yourself no longer worship GOD instead they worship pastors.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=651724.msg8177020#msg8177020 date=1303414576]If Igbos leave, other tribes in that region would be expected to leave too.

No. I want my Yorubas to spread out, from SW to N to SE to SS. Keep popping those babies

If Northerners expect non-Northerners to vacate their region, then they should expect the move to be reciprocated in the South.

So what is GEJ doing about this threats? Why can't the North just come and and tell us they dont want to be in the union again?[/quote]I dont want all the northerners to leave odua,i can't do without my ALABA RAGO SUYA    and their tasty skinny Ogufe (goat)  .

Like someone mentioned here ,we will still need some of those northern Agricultural imports to sustain the nation.The only northerners i will not allow in odua are the beggars

[quote author=FLORA.C. link=topic=651724.msg8176930#msg8176930 date=1303413560]@ndu.pls ansa ds questn.cn u compare btwn oil moni nd moni gtn 4 agric products?[/quote]Ndu chucks is right.Oil money is worthless if it is not used for the good of the people.Nigeria is a very GOOD EXAMPLE.We make more money than any nation on the African continent everyday but South Africa,Botswana, Swaziland, Kenya and even common Lesotho has better infrastructure , medical care ,housing , electricity and water than us.Many countries like New Zealand ,Australia survive primarily on Agricultural exports,tourism and mining.

sr:
i feel v.sad at the level of hatred that naijas hv towards each other, the saddest thing for me is that the politicians+elites+power mongers have successfully found that the easiest joker they can play and instantly get us divided n fighting among ourselves is the relgious or ethinic cards. anytime its played we play as they expect irrespective of individuals level of education or exposure, its enough to numb our abilties to reason. some coments by some people on this site make me wonder if there is any of us who is not a relgious or ethinic bigot.
i personally think going by the level of hatred we have we should all go our separate ways, but the question is will that mean either the sothern or northern country get peace? becouse think of it in the north the muslims can use as simple as sect difference to take arms against one another while in the south just becouse we come from different families/communities any slight issue is also enough to get us at each others throats. and come to think of it the cost of the division. has anyone given a thought to the fact all the hard earned nairas you have in the bank will instantly become worthless? has any given a thought to the economic impact and emotional consequencies? how do you compensate all the igbos who have invested heavily up north and vice versa?
i think the solution of naija problem lies in equity & justice. i believe religious & ethinic violence will never stop untill we have courageous leaders that can insure justice is always metted to those behind these acts, wether a high imam or pastor becouse i personally hold our religious leaders responsible for these violence. naija is the most religious country in the world. in the books both religions talk peace & say love thy neighbor but i wonder what these people teach us in the confines of our mosques and churches, i hold them responsible for the immense hatred we habor. i say justice & fainess is the ultimate solution to our problem.

I feel what you are saying but i must say that if Nigeria splits neither side will lose if they have good leaders .Take a look at Germany and Japan ,this are two countries that were built from war ruin with no mineral resources and today this two countries are a million times better than Niegria.

With the understanding and awareness that Nigerians have today ,it is evident that Nigeria will be divided into at least 4 countries should it get to that stage

Namely Odua, Arewa ,Niger Delta and Biafra.

Arewa which consist of the north and some part of the midbelt has notable agriculture and there is untapped Gold in some part of the north.If Arewa elect a discipline who invites over to a bunch of foreign and experienced managers ,the country will become a class A country with a booming Economy in 10 years.

Odua has offshore oil in the ondo and lagos area,bitumen in ondo ,cocoa in ondo,solid agricultural base in kwara ,ekiti,ondo e.t.cOdua can only boast of a robust fishing industry.Odua also boast a robust banking ,entertainment and telecommunications industry.If Odua was to get a president like me,the country will be on par with Australia and Canada in 15 years.

Niger Delta as we will all know is already blessed with a lot of oil and with the right president in charge,it could easily become the next UAE in 10 years.

Biafra has oil and vast amount of business brains,igbos are masters when it comes to small scale businesses.They can easily build their nation up to the standard of the USA within 10 years.

Nigeria is currently made up of different ethnic groups that do not like or understand each other so i will prefer that we split because we will be better off if we do.Biafra will have an igbo president at last ,odua will get a yoruba president,ND will get Pat Utomi and arewa will get an hausa or fulani president.

I think the best solution is for Nigeria to split.Imagine if Nigeria was divided into 4 nations,igbos living in the north,west and ND will be non citizens and will have no right to vote so the natives won't kill them over politics.If the natives feel that igbos are dominating their lands,they can simply protest to their Government to tighten the borders to reduce the inflow of Igbos.The major factor that is contributing to igbo woes today is their population.I think Igbos are reproducing at an alarming rate.There are just too many mouths to feed within the igbo race.I think enlightened igbos should initiate programs that will promote birth control among the igbo nation.

I know this may not be the appropriate section but since it is the most visisted section i decided to post it here.This is an email i got from one of my business partner a while ago :

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BLACK DO NOT READ

THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES We can continue to reap profits from the Blacks without the effort of physical slavery Look at the current methods of containment that they use on themselves: IGNORANCE, GREED, and SELFISHNESS.

Their IGNORANCE is the primary weapon of containment. A great man once said, "The best way to hide something from Black people is to put it in a book." We now live in the Information Age. They have gained the opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of their fight for freedom, yet they refuse to read. There are numerous books readily available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon.com, not to mention their own Black Bookstores that provide solid blueprints to reach economic equality (which should have been their fight all along), but few read consistently, if at all.

GREED is another powerful weapon of containment. Blacks, since the abolition of slavery, have had large amounts of money at their disposal. Last year they spent 10 billion dollars during Christmas, out of their 450 billion dollars in total yearly income (2.22%).

Any of us can use them as our target market, for any business venture we care to dream up, no matter how outlandish, they will buy into it. Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed. They continually want more, with little thought for saving or investing.

They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a business. Some even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy or FUBU, And they still think that having a Mercedes, and a big house gives them "Status" or that they have achieved their Dream.

They are fools! The vast majority of their people are still in poverty because their greed holds them back from collectively making better communities.

With the help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even jeered them, saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses that we market to them.

SELFISHNESS, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the major ways we can continue to contain them. One of their own, Dubois said that there was an innate division in their culture. A "Talented Tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are segments of their culture that has achieved some "form" of success. However, that segment missed the fullness of his work. They didn't read that the "Talented Tenth" was then responsible to aid The Non-Talented Ninety Percent in achieving a better life. Instead, that segment has created another class, a Buppie class that looks down on their people or aids them in a condescending manner. They will never achieve what we have. Their selfishness does not allow them to be able to work together on any project or endeavor of substance. When they do get together, their selfishness lets their egos get in the way of their goal Their so-called help organi za tions seem to only want to promote their name without making any real change in their community.

They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our hotels, and talk about what they will do, while they award plaques to the best speakers, not to the best doers. Is there no end to their selfishness? They steadfastly refuse to see that TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE (TEAM). They do not understand that they are no better than each other because of what they own, as a matter of fact, most of those Buppies are but one or two pay checks away from poverty. All of which is under the control of our pens in our offices and our rooms.

Yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse to read, continue to buy anything they want, and keep thinking they are "helping" their communities by paying dues to organi za tions which do little other than hold lavish conventions in our hotels. By the way, don't worry about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T READ!!!!

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What are your thoughts on what this woman has said? Does it apply to African Americans alone or the entire black nation? Is she making sense or is she talking crap?

werepeLeri:
There has been an increase in the sale of rat poisons in the diaspora. I understand those of them who wanted Buhari as against Jonathan are begining to eat rat poison as a show of disappointment to their benefactor's loss in the Nigerian Presidential elections. I have rat poisons to export to the States and to Europe in case they want more.

Sometimes i wonder about your sanity.Just like your boss GEJ, you are unable to engage your opponents intelligently instead you post childish comements and irrelevant pictures.

GEJ better check this your boy beaf in to the best psychiatric hospital in Saudi Arabia ,he is clearly nuts  

werepeLeri:
Naaaaaa - time to tell the psycho diasporians to zip it.

I concur,Nigeria will never  be one.Divide the country into  four.

shekerau to head arewa republic

Pat Utomi to head nigerdelta republic

Ngige to head biafra republic

Me to head the sovereign territory of  odua  

werepeLeri:
This man with his old Range Rover is still here talking ras.

Beaf Abeg go siddon,wetin concern range rover with this matter.People are being killed you are talking about a car.You are always trying to divert attention from your master's incompetence.Bad belle person.

And the jaga jaga Government begins.I dont know why GEJ is speaking grammar.These rioters will kill innocent people,he should send some soldiers there to suppress the violence instead of constructing vocabulary in  aso rock