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nwafuluozoh:
Brilliant! She intellectually took Soludo to the cleaners. One must come to equity with clean hands o. Oga CBN just learnt that in a hard way.
Point 52 is the final nail, blow, kick, straw etc that finished the tatters left of Soludo's reputation.
Enemies who keep undermining the efforts of GEJ to move Nigeria forward.
OP Jah bless you!

Thanks man,

I also believe that Soludo indeed did a hatchet job; he mixed facts with fiction and manipulated data to hit out at GEJ and Obi for not supporting his political ambition in Anambra State. He's better off being professional, vindictiveness won't help him.

A debate won't happen. It will only serve the interest of Oby, and provide drama for Nigerians.

Oby wants to advertise herself, she should find a professional of doing it. Asking everyone for debate wont cut it! Maybe she should go debate with Fani 'Ode!

Personally the image I have of Soludo as the Banking Consolidation genius wont change, neither will my respect for Ngozi Iweala Nigeria's best finance minister wane.

I think these two should find a way to work together (again) for the good of the land.

Paragraph by paragraph summary of Finance Ministry Rebuttal of Soludo’s Article (for the lazy readers)

1. Soludo's article reflected the thoughts of an embittered loser. It misquoted facts and maliciously manipulated statistics; a hatchet job!

2. Soludo wrote to please certain past leaders

3. Soludo mismanaged the banking sector, hence had no moral platform to write about mismanagement (pots shouldn't be slurring kettles)

4&5. Bank consolidation was a brilliant idea, but Soludo mismanaged it by poor regulation and supervision

6. Soludo's was to close to the bankers, and couldn't stop them from accumulating huge bad debts. This made them ill-prepare for the financial crisis

7,8,& 9. The bank couldn't cope. Sanusi transferred the bad debts to AMCON. The total was about N5.67 trillion

10. Listen! This N5.67 trillion makes up the bulk of 'contingent liability' which Soludo is holding the current administration liable for

11. Such (3-9) can only happen in Nigeria!

12. Now let's deal with the other issues

13. Too much flying puts Soludo out of touch with ground facts

14. Because oil price has fallen, and government has imposed austerity measure, suddenly every charlatan wants to attack the economy and the
executives

15. Indeed economy grew well during Obj second term, but it was because of the performance of then Finance Minister who brokered debt relieve, and she is still here!

16. Check GEJ records. When global GDP growth was about 3%, Nigeria was posting 6%!

17. Bulk of the growth was not from oil, but from Agric, Manufacturing, Nollywood, etc. It is working. Transformation = Diversification.

18. We have tamed inflation, Soludo could not!

19,20 & 21. He left inflation at 13%, we have brought it down to 8%. We also stabilized the exchange rate btw 2011 - 2014. Only fall in oil price, which affected reserves has made the exch rate now volatile.

22. We are putting measure in place to manage the drop in oil price.

23 & 24. A careless remark once made by Soludo (CEA - Chief Economic Adviser) also caused Naira to free-fall in 2003. Even Obj and CBN Governor then could not halt the fall

25. We are not making excuses, but lower production, theft and refusal to save in Excess Crude Account is responsible for lower foriegn reserve. Soludo lied; Obj produced more oil than we have now.

26. Pipeline vandalism is also causing lower production of oil

27. But the main problem is that Governors want the money in ECA shared! They have taken FG to Supreme Court due to this.

28 & 29. Soludo deliberately used NBS 2011 statistics to say 71 percent of Nigerians live below poverty line. The World Bank 2014 report says
between 2010/11 and 2012/13 poor Nigerian is dropped from 35.2% to 33.1%

30. But the NBS record was is wrong because, NBS under Soludo supervision did not use international measurement. Why not use updated data now?

31 & 32. We have unemployment problem. The CEA and NBS determine how many jobs we need to create annually so that we can measure progress. Why didn't Soludo do this when he was CEA?

33. We need to create 1.8 million job every year

34. We are creating 1.4 milion yearly in Agric, Housing, Manufacturing, Financial Services, and Creative Industries (aka Nollywood)

35 - 39. We have other special programs like Nagropreneurs, YOUWIN, Graduate Internship Program, Sure-P intervention.

40. Our debt profile increased because in 2010, government increased wages of Federal workers by 57%! Where was Soludo then? Did he allow this to happen because he wanted to prepare ground for political career by wooing organized labour?

41. Since 2011, approach to debt has changed. We have lowest number of debt to GDP ratio at 12.51%. Borrowing has reduced in 2014 even with our larger GDP. We will only borrow modestly to help us whether the present situation. We have made plans to generate more non-oil revenue and cut cost of governance. Soludo doesn't know what he's talking about saying we are reckless with debt.

42 Soludo is ignorant of what GEJ has achieved. Here are verifiable ones

43. 22 Airport refurbished, 5 new Int'l Airport terminal under construction.

44. Various roads and bridges projects completed. Some are under construction. Functional rail between Lagos-Kano, P/H to Maiduguri. Power privatization, and gas infrastructure development

45. In Agric 6 million farmer access farm input through e-wallet, up from 403,222 in 2011. Paddy rice production in Nigeria is first in history adding about 7 million MT to rice production. Addition 1.2 million MT of Cassava. Food price no longer rise as fast as before.

46. A wholesale mortgage provider is now in place.

47. Manufacturing is revived with auto policy. Nigeria also export 39,000 MT of petrochemical, sugar, textile, cement etc

48. Nollywood account for 1.4% of GDP. The present administration is the first to support Nollywood with grants. Upcoming Development Bank will support SME with 5-10 year loan at affordable rate.

49. Government started these before oil price fell; this year will be difficult, more money in ECA could have helped, but we can rise to the challenge.

50. GEJ and the Economic Team see the crisis as opportunity to diversify revenue of a diversifying economy. Soludo is wrong; rebasing is, at least, good for policy making.

51. Soludo say we are not talking about Economic Partnership Agreement with EU. Too much flying makes Soludo ignorant; Nigeria has not signed and does not proposed to sign the EPA in current form! Government policy has worldwide acclaim.

52. Soludo can regain respect by returning to professionalism! Other people he referenced will take it up with him. He failed managing the banking sector, he was rejected by the electorates, and now he's out of touch with Nigeria economy.


End of Summary


Original source:

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/175796-okonjo-iweala-attacks-soludo-says-hes-nigerias-worst-cbn-governor-ever.html

alaoeri:
Yeebos fighting yeebos because of a clueless Ijaw man thats non of my business.

Bigoted olodo!

Are yorubas not fighting yorubas because of one unlettered Fulani?

babyosisi:
1.bagging his FSLC from the womb ready to tackle WAEC

2. "London WAEC " at his doorstep while rearing cows in the field

3. Entering the army with just a teacher's recommendation that he will pass WAEC

4. Double promotion in the army for being Fulani( no WAEC O)

5. Ability to enter houses with ceiling fans and come out with his head on his neck ( WAEC notwithstanding )

6. Registering for presidio candidate 4 consecutive times ,WAEC result missing each time

7. Ruling Nigeria two solid years WAEC or no WAEC

8 staging a fake boko haram attack without being arrested ( how many WAEC holders can do that)

9. Giving abacha a clean slate as a model leader speaking WAECally

10.faking a WAEC result and being able to sorround himself with known criminals like thifnooboo,IBB,Atiku and still maintain an image of a crime fighter albeit without WAEC o



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You are wickedly brutal.

You will give some people heart attack here!

Keep it up!!

Why would Nigerians accuse Buhari of corruption?


Is perjury and certificate forgery corruption?

Is joining the army without requisite qualification corruption?

Acidosis:
My documents with IBB
My documents with Secretary of Military Board
My documents with WAEC
My documents with School Principal
My documents with Cambridge
My documents with INEC

What next??

My documents with ___________?
A) Berem
B) Bacarnista
C) Liar Muhammed
D) Shekau


Sai Thieficate.

Lol

Buhari is a joke!!

hansad:
Only in a country like Nigeria:

a man swore under oath that his school leaving certificate is with the military secretariat;

the military secretariat says that the man's certificate is not with it.


Only in Nigeria can such a man still have honour and still address people, criticize incumbent govt, and even tell people that he wants to be president of the country; --- and wait for it, to fight corruption;

yet the law enforcement agencies have yet to put the man under trial; yet some people still listen to the man -

only in Nigeria, George Orwel's Animal Farm.

"Perjury and Forgery are not corruption" - APC/Buhari

Buhari - forging his way to relevance since 1961!

"Forgery is not corruption!" - APC/Buhari

cuteboy2:
[size=18pt]Was Buhari qualified (with 5 credits including Maths and English) to join the Nigerian Army as a commissioned officer in the first place?[/size]

This is the troubling question, not all these long stories.
The electorates are not interested in the military courses he attended afterwards. Those are not in doubt.

I thought they said he scored F9 in Maths and Wood work!

agabusta:
Nobody can push a General around. He would authorize them in due course at his own appropriate time. Not because some silly FFK and PDP is diverting attention through the issue.

No problem, at least we know that:

1. We know he lied about his certificate being with secretary military board
2. He joined the army with a recommendation letter that he will pass English, Maths, and three other subject
3. We know through the dodgy result he failed mathematics and ordinary wood work
4. We know he lied about being in the same class with Shehu Yar Adua
5. We have shown that the result he presented are doctored
6. Lawyers have dragged his ass to court
7. Several Nigerians are ridiculing him social and print media for lack of certificate, etc

If he did have the result, how would all these embarrassment have helped his cause? Wouldn't it have been better if people didn't know some this about him? How does allowing this to fester help his image as "Mr. Integrity" even as election draw close?

Nowm even if it is eventually confirmed by Cambridge that he did have the result issued by Kastina board, does that in anyway help the fact that he failed Mathematics, and then proceeded to further disgrace himself by having F9 in wood work? Don't forget the news flying around that he failed all him military exams!

How do all these fit into his image as the president of highly educated Nigerians? Wouldn't Nigerian be ridiculed as the country ruled by dullard?
I am convinced that he doesn't have it (the certificate)! No politician who knows his/her onions will allow such ridicule to fester, if he/she has the power to stop it!

Buhari cannot stop this ridicule (or propaganda) because he has something to hide; perhaps something more sinister that failure in maths and wood work. Sooner or later more revelations will surface!


All these happened because Buhari failed to promptly request for his result! He is too slow, perhaps a slowpoke!

modhream:
He did not sit for the exam,yet they say he's the only one who can make the request and they release the result/certificate?.Dude,where did you leave off your brain?.I'm sure you must have been blessed with one at birth.

I can't stop laughing!

How foolish do people get these days? So you don't understand that's it people who sat for exam that can have the confidence to request for result? I still have to spell that out for you?

Wetin man no go see. Ok here is it, in primary school language!

If he did sit for the exam, let him request for his certificate or statement of result from Cambridge.

I hope your brain can synthesize this broken down piece?

Folks here are just grasping at straws.

A lowly explanation of the process by Cambridge suddenly has transformed into certificate for their unlettered principal? All I see are hypocrites and sycophants who can't even live by their their own rules.

I have news for you folks:

This Cambridge explanation CANNOT be tendered in place of WASC CERTIFICATE! How hard is it for you folk to understand this basic stuff?

This explanation does not preclude the possibility that Buhari did not sit for the exam and is only parading forged statement of result. Buhari should request for his certificate/statement of result from Cambridge to put the matter to rest!

ganase2:
Showing on AIT right now is a full report on Buhari Government and his involvement in Corruption that a lot of us, especailly the indomie generation dont know!

It's an eye opener for a lot of people. Buhari's regime was brutish, even as it lacked direction!

@op,

I will vote for him for all the reasons you stated, plus the opposition couldn't field anyone better!

pendy79:
I heard the JUSUN strike was called off for this kind of shenanigans.

Lets see who owns sovereignty either the people or PDP.
Attorney General bribing COURT WORKERS to go on strike so as to prevent people with grudges against a stupid primary from being heard and all cases against GEJ election are suspended but on seeing the tsunami coming they have decided to open Federal Courts while States Courts are still locked to deflect the anger and lack of any thing to campaign with and playing their last cards of desperation.

The patriotic Secretary General of JUSUN was right then, the Attorney General bribed union heads to call the strike, now they need the court to open so as to file this case they called off strike. Strike called off late sunday 25th January night, Okafor got his court summon Monday 26th january. They don't even have tact and commonsense in their planning.

Who are the thinkers behind the PDP? Why is being daft and and clueless a plague amongst its members and supporters? Acting without adequate plans is failure.
APC have the antidote okafor, your sponsors didn't do their homework fine. This is a no case submission.

Never in our National History did an Attorney General bribe judiciary workers union officials to go on strike to forestall intra party crisis being heard in courts but now they need to courts to do them a favour they foolishly think they can get, they have bribed again to open only federal courts meanwhile what JUSUN supposedly went on strike for IS NOT IMPLEMENTED. JONATAN will go down history as the worst president to have ruled Nigeria and his case will be worst than Laurent Gbagbo. The tsunami is coming

Tot their documentary should do the magic, let them continue to make Buhari popular, hope they have money to keep playing the Documentary till the 14th of FeBUHARI for a stupid documentary won't deter this CHANGE.

Watch out for the APC's documentary soon on your TV.

Stories for the gods.

Perhaps you should go to court with your evidence of bribery against the AG!

2pence:
Please Read.....

ONE NATION,TWO MORALITIES.

(THE REPUBLIC) By Shaka Momodu:shaka.momodu@thisdaylive.com

What started in hushed whispers and was quickly dismissed with incredulity as a mere beer parlour talk coming from idle minds, appears to be gradually turning into a scandal of monumental proportions that goes to the very heart of the Nigerian nation, barely three weeks to a crucial presidential election in which the person in question is a candidate. The more I wish the scandal goes away, the more intriguing and resilient it becomes.

I was very reluctant to make this intervention on the raging scandal concerning whether the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, possesses a secondary school certificate or not. But the more I ignore the controversy, the more worrisome the General’s attempt to so casually dismiss the grave allegations of possible fraud in his academic qualifications. The situation is murky, lurid and embarrassing with grave implications for the military and the country, and no one is providing proper clarity amid the smog of dust raised.

An otherwise straightforward issue is being explained in riddles, presumptions and evasive suppositions about a sterling military career which no one is in doubt of anyway. The doubt, however, comes from the foundation on which the referenced career was built. I have even read in some quarters that he holds a diploma certificate from United States Army War College. Well, to those arguments, I say as it is said in legal parlance, ex nihilo nihil fit, which means, something cannot stand on nothing or better still, something can only stand on something.
The constitutional qualification for a candidate to be eligible to stand for presidential election is a minimum of secondary school certificate or its equivalent. Otherwise, that person is deemed ineligible. As things stand now, Buhari’s eligibility is being questioned and all we get are emotive career profile responses spanning a lifetime, rising to the very pinnacle of the military as Head of State and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

The question now is: has the APC presidential candidate met this all important constitutional requirement? The nation is yet to get a concrete answer to this question.

Buhari’s first public statement at a press conference on the issue on Sunday failed to clear the air surrounding his academic records. If anything, it has added fuel to the raging fire. His argument that he has contested thrice before is unacceptable. He must go beyond the polemics and provide the necessary evidence about his certificate.

In a sworn affidavit earlier, the General did attest that his credentials and academic records were with the Military Board. That was the first curious move about the unfolding drama. Where are his original academic documents? As far as I know, no institution collects original certificates from a candidate for keepsake. The only copies collected by institutions and employers of labour are photocopies; original documents are only brought for sighting and then returned to the candidate. I, for instance, have my original academic documents. It is preposterous to say anyone will surrender his/her original academic certificates to an institution or an employer knowing full well that his/her entire life isn’t dependent on that institution. In any case, even if it was dependent on it, original certificates are your personal assets earned after being found worthy in character and learning. Even the most rabid supporters of the General know that original academic records are never given to institutions or employers; they are kept by the owner. I have spoken to few military officers in the last couple of days about the on-going macabre drama. They told me they have their original academic records with them. The question now is: why is Buhari’s case different? Can any of Buhari’s supporters whose original certificates are with his/her employer raise up his/her hand and be counted?

Okay, let’s even give the former head of state the benefit of the doubt that his academic certificates are with the Military Board, but he sure knows how to access them anytime he wants. And being a former head of state, his request to the Military Board for copies will be met with the utmost dispatch. Why didn’t he do that instead of rushing to swear an affidavit? Did he really need to swear an affidavit that his academic certificates are with the Secretary to the Military Board? It is worthy of note that Buhari didn’t say they were lost or burnt; he actually knows where they are, going by his affidavit. So, why didn’t he go and collect them instead of resorting to an affidavit? The army has issued a statement stating it has Buhari’s career records and not his academic records, stating further that all past military officers can request for the their credentials if they so desire. Why has Buhari refused to request for his credentials for onward submission to INEC, thereby taking the wind out of sails of this developing and embarrassing mess and subsequently putting the issue to rest once and for all? What is Buhari afraid of? Has he been living a lie all these years while pretending to be the most upright man in the country? Why did it take so long for the nation to find out the truth about Buhari’s academic or non-academic qualifications? Why is his party, the APC, unable to satisfactorily clear the air?
The argument by APC that he has commanded three divisions of the Nigerian Army, rose to the rank of a major general and ultimately became the head of state and has contested presidential elections thrice begs the question, and is neither here nor there. Where is his secondary school certificate upon which other possible academic records stand? As a matter of fact, it beggars belief that the party is making such a puerile argument, when what is needed is a robust rebuttal with unassailable facts by making a public presentation of his certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to quieten the doubts and suspicions. By taking the current position without a supporting shred of evidence, the party’s position has remained at best tenuous.

APC’s defence amounts to saying that a man who successfully committed a heist several times before he was eventually caught is not guilty of stealing because he was not caught in his many previous escapades. The question here is: can the grounds of past successful heists neutralise the fact that, that person committed a crime? Of course, the resounding answer to this is no. The fact that Buhari may have gotten away in the past and for so long because of the weakness of various institutions of state does not make it right. He has only been lucky that he operated within the regimented confines of the military establishment of a command-and-obey structure where questions of probity are hardly asked of superior officers. He probably got away in three election cycles because the rule didn’t require candidates to produce evidence of their qualifications. Added to that, is the fact that, it was taken for granted that he is a former head of state.

If Buhari is unable to provide evidence of a secondary school certificate or its equivalent, then there is a big problem. Whether he attended several military training programmes and courses is immaterial, if they were obtained without the basic qualifications to have become a commissioned officer of the Nigerian Army. The question that naturally arises from this is, which academic records did he use to join the army and on the basis of what was he promoted? Was he able to join the army and earn promotions on the strength of his ethno-religious background? Was it the quota system at play? Were entry requirements lowered for Buhari in 1962 when he entered the Nigeria Military Training College, the precursor of the Nigerian Defence Academy? What documents did he submit in the last three presidential election contests? The answer to this last question is that in the past, the rule only required a candidate to fill his qualifications, but that has changed. The rule according to Form CF001 now requires a candidate to not only fill his qualifications, he must attach photocopies of such. This was where the cat was let out of the bag. Instead of Buhari attaching his certificates as the rule requires, he ran to swear an affidavit that his documents were with the Military Board. Even if he merely filled his qualifications in the past, what were his claims? Did he swear to an affidavit to buttress those claims? If he did, won’t he then be guilty of perjury?

There are so many puzzles and fog surrounding this issue of Buhari’s certificate requiring urgent clarity. Ironically, the party that is riding on the crest of change and its candidate who has been rebranded and presented to Nigerians as a saint and the new face of change appear unwilling to subject themselves to the most basic requirement of transparency and the minimum legal requirement for eligibility. The sincerity of the change agents has been put to test, and instead of demonstrating that its “change” is not just a hollow sloganeering mantra, the APC has been foot-dragging and fiddling with the intelligence of Nigerians. And if I may remind APC and Buhari, “no one ever gets missing on a straight road.”

I have heard some people say, whether Buhari has a certificate or not, doesn’t matter, since a certificate is not what is required for one to provide good leadership. Well said. But my problem with that position is that it violates the law of the land. The more scary part of that preposition is his supporters’ willingness to tolerate this clear act of fraud by giving Buhari exemption from criminal liability of possible forgery and perjury while accusing others of corruption. And even arrogantly selling his candidacy on the strapline of integrity and unblemished record.

Now, how did Buhari spend his time before he was made chairman of PTF and after its dissolution? Has it even occurred to anyone that Buhari has never leveraged his influence and status as past head of state to support any worthy humanitarian cause such as eradication of polio, meningitis and even guinea worm that was very rampant in the North? Can anyone recall any forum where Buhari spoke to youths across ethnic and religious divides in an inspirational manner? Did he ever get invited to deliver any lecture anywhere in this country apart from Islamic events? Please, let someone correct me if I am wrong. Yet, this is the man who wants to change the fortunes of Nigeria, 30 yearWs after he left office as military head of state.

If the on-going controversy surrounding his certificate and his reluctance to clear the air with evidence is anything to go by, what legal and even moral grounds does he stand to aspire to the highest office in the land - when he cannot even meet the basic requirement of presenting his certificate? If proven that he has no secondary school certificate, then he may have perpetrated the greatest fraud in the military/political history of this country, and everything he has ever stood for will have no foundation anymore.

Think for a moment what the APC and its satellite groups - pro-democracy activists and our so-called constitutional lawyers would have done if a member of another party was the one accused of not having a certificate. All hell would have been let loose. They would be issuing statements everyday calling for investigation. But since this controversy broke, not a whimper from them. We have not heard that 60 lawyers are queuing up to defend the constitution against a possible breach by Buhari as they did to defend Speaker Aminu Tambuwal when he defected from his party, the PDP, and refused to relinquish his position.

Buhari by not producing his certificate means nothing as long as he is in APC. Talk of one nation, two moralities.


Credit :http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-one-nation-two-moralities/199605/

Beautifully articulated!

I just have to quote the whole article as every paragraph reflects the thoughts of majority Nigerians. The onus is on Buhari to extricate himself from these web of lies, deceit and fraud he's got himself entangled. The earlier the better!

@Zahra,
We have security problem because unqualified and compromised people like your father managed to smuggled themselves into the military. And because he didn't know better (due to mental deficiency/incapacity) managed to destroy the army as a result of incompetency!

hehehehe funny stuff.

Where is the presidential aspirant? Shouldn't he be the one doing the talking? Has he contracted his job to BRF or...? Perhaps he's busy looking for another dodgy statement of result to present!

Caseless:
mr smart, I thought I could engage u, until I saw the last line.

You want to engage me or engage my signature? What has my signature got to do with the topic?

In anycase you probably misunderstood me, I have no intention nor desire to engage you! I believe such exercise will be an effort in futility; Besides I have no time for the back and forth meaningless banter some of you have elevated to pseudo-intellectualism.

Bottom line is that something is clearly wrong with whatever certificate Buhari used in joining the military. It appears some sort of fraud was committed, accounting for the various inconsistencies in what was recorded against Buhari military records, and statement of result issued by the Kastina Education Board.

Now the bigger issue is who is responsible for transparently clearing all the confusion? Buhari no doubt should be at the forefront of this, as this issue keeps eroding his 'integrity', while also depriving Nigerians the opportunity to move on to more cogent electoral matters/debates.

PDP also appear to be gaining a lot of traction by continually reminding Nigerians that "Mr. Integrity" is indeed "Mr. Forger" and "Mr. Perjury" who fraudulently benefited from the military. Allowing the matter to linger hurts Buhari/APC more than it does PDP! It is therefore in the interest of PDP to continue to raise the matter at every opportunity, even if only to cause embarrassment!

In the unlikely event that Buhari becomes President, Nigerians and indeed international community will remember and view him as the dullard who scored F9 in mathematics and woodwork, among other tags which he is synonymous with.

Caseless:
your posts suggest exactly this.
Again, if you are so smart like you claim, why did you go back to to the past, dug up what was said over 50 years ago, you crested it on your signature field in red font? Smart what are you trying to achieve with that? Are you this vindictive?

I don't care what my post suggest. What I know is that I don't support PDP, I support GEJ, Obiano, Oshiomole, and Apkabio. If they happen to be PDP so be it!


The problem you have with my signature is nothing a bottle of crude oil and detergent mixture cannot fix. Go on son, give it a try. Take a sip

prelomo:
The North will also cut the supply of food ,period

Lol,

What food supply? lol

Were people eating pebbles when there were no groundnuts?

Eziachi:
So Mr educator, when you listen to Patience Jonathan, does she sounds to you as one that has ever completed and submitted a project work in the University, except University like University of Port Harcourt maybe?

What position is Patience Jonathan contesting? And what has project work go to do with spoken english?

Garrithe1st:
Taharqa, PointB and the rest Pdp e-warriors, kindly go through the link provided and see how Jarus organized the last debate we had here in 2012. His role is limited to coordination and planning of the debate.

I wonder how you think he can influence the outcome of the debate as ultimately it's the readers who will determine the side that presents a more convincing argument.

PointB gives no damn what jarus is! And PointB does not support PDP. I am way to smart for that!

Eziachi:
Maybe you haven't heard of African most revered leader of 20th century Patrice Lumumba. He did not even finish his primary education. Can you compare Jonathan PHD with Patrice Lumumba?
What has PHD in the research of prawns and crabs got to do with leadership?
Like I kept saying, my interest in this issue is not about Buhari and Jonathan or their parties but wider implications of what politicians personal interest can cause.
I have no shred of doubt that Buhari went the school he went and obtained the certificate we have a copy. Even he doesn't, all his army training had made the noise about his secondary schools certificate irrelevant.

You are missing the point!

If he didn't have the relevant qualification to have joined the army, or if he forged those qualifications, then he had no basis for whatever he did in the army. It should be stripped off him.

And by the way, it is not about PHD in prawns and crab, it's about a body of knowledge, about exposure to methodology and systematic way of doing things, cleverly inserted into the universty education system but absent in the secondary education system.

Anybody who has ever completed and submitted a project work in the University will tell about this.

Caseless:
the same way u deserted omenka's thread that explicity explains transformation in ur terms and understanding with pictures u requested for- u fled that thread despite numerous mention.

Maybe, you should revisit the thread and check my last comment. By the way, I am a private citizen and independent forumer. I am not a card carrying member of any party, and I support individual candidates, not any party.

I reserve the right to what I respond to or not and when I respond, notwithstanding how many times my mention was spammed.