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dayokanu: You are missing the point

Buhari wouldnt have come out if your murderous brothers didnt start the killings.

Buhari and co just came in to set the records straight after your brothers struck

So you agree that Buhari murdered those unarmed soldiers as revenge?

eagle,eye:
When you come up with such a sensitiv topic, you should be capable of passing across your opinion to your audience without resorting to "EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL".
So because Buhari participated in the July Counter Coup, we should all over look the fact that it was A COUNTER COUP/RETALIATORY COUP, just because Igbo Officers were killed.
I like the Idealogy of Nzeogwu's Coup/Revolution, but for the fact that History recorded that no Major Igbo politician was killed in that Coup (that infact Azikiwe, Opara and others had a foreknowledge of the coup) it all boils down to one thing. "the killing of top men from other tribes".
Point B, next time you will do well to gather enough POINTS before opening up a thread in order to single out an individual and condemn him for an act that was not solely carried out by him.

I'll take the bolded to imply that you personally informed Azikwe and Okpara of the plot. Perhaps you should create a thread to educate us on that. This thread is interested in how Buhari murdered his colleagues in the counter coup, if I may remind you. So if you have nothing to contribute, take your rantings to another thread.

Now in sane countries, people like Buhari will cower in shame, guilt and regrets; and life a reclusive live, perpetually praying for forgiveness and cleansing of such blood of innocent souls staining their already darkened souls. But it's like the country is not only full of madmen, but equally shameless ignorant sycophants who worship them; urging on these dark soul to lord over their live. I hope they get what they yearn for, on a personally level, that is.

eagle,eye:
POINT B,
We can argue back and forth till thy Kingdom come.

It's like you didn't get the memo? I am not arguing with you, or anyone. Okay?

Umar Sanda: shattap dia! Did u even hav a brain at all, d guy is telling u d plain truth u r stil trying 2 twist facts.

Did u just say Buhari is a coward? So they shld hav wake d soldiers n tel dem, "bros we wan kill u" abi? If u dnt kw, Nzeogwu killd Ahmadu Bello whle he was praying, n also his pregnant wife, wat do u call dat? As far as am concern d counter coup is justifiable, u shld threw d blame at d doorstep of ur greedy n bigoted leaders, am greatly disapointd at d killing of Ndigbo dat follows n led 2 d Civil war, bt yet d blame stil remain at ur doorstep, any Hausa man wil nt tak it lightly wit u wen u kill d likes of Sardauna n Balewa.

Stop pandering to sentiments. This thread is not interested in who fired the first shot in the Jan 15 coup. It is an exposition of how Buhari, supervised and participated in the butchering, without orders, several of his unarmed colleagues, when they could have easily been arrested and detained.

I am only bringing this up simply because many did not know this dark side of the man who had contested and lost election severally in Nigeria. I am not sure if karma is toying with him, or providence is working against him. But what I am very sure reading that report is that Mohammmadu Buhari actually pulled the trigger to kill a few men who were probably wearing t-shirts, against military code of ethics and Geneva convention. The argument that Nzeogwu was responsible for Buhari's sheer barbarity in butchering his colleagues actually portray him - buhari- in more darker form. It reveals a a man whose vindictiveness makes emotionally unstable. Such people are often carry alot of darkness in the mind, and needless to add, very evil.

Let me put the above in perspective:

At the outset of planning for the coup, late General Garba says in his book '"Revolution in Nigeria", Another View', that "We intended explicitly to kill no one. The aims were, firstly, to get Decree No. 34 abrogated; secondly, to bring the coup makers of January 15 to trial; thirdly, to accord due honour to the military and political leaders - especially the Prime Minister - who had been killed."

However, as we now know, the rebellion was anything but bloodless as other agendas took center stage when all hell broke loose.Garba insists that there was no specific plan to annihilate all Igbo officers and soldiers - although it appeared so to neutral observers from the way many northern NCOs (aided by some officers and civilians) were carrying on with reckless abandon and total disregard for life and property. Garba himself admits that they went "berserk".

Garba himself admits that they went "berserk" Who were those among the original planners who went 'berserk' in the bloody orgy, butchering even unarmed colleagues, against initial plan? One name stands out, and tall - the tall one, of heart of darkness- Mohammadu Buhari!

Let's assume GEJ made the same comment. What will be the reaction of the ACN/APC goons?

Umar Sanda: dnt mind d eediot,@op is Buhari d leader of d Coup?, he is a soldier following order, and i dnt want 2 believe ur fada didnt tell u dat its ur kinsmen dat started d trouble den, n u r stil here whinning like a hungry kitten. If ur fada didnt tel u, ur kinsmen led by Nzogwu who grew up as a Northerner slain many Northern n South western leaders whle dey spare there own, u think u cn do dat n go scot free? U dnt want 2 mention d dead, yet u can mention Murtala and Ahmadu Bello? Wat a hypocrate.

U r working hard 2 discredit GMB, bt u wil nt suceed, dat hatred wil kill u n ur likes.

So that Buhari is not the leader, even though he was one of the planner and organiser, makes it right that he murder his colleagues in cold blood? And how did you arrive at the point that Buhari was following orders? Whose orders was it that he killed the men? Was it Murtala Mohammed's who stop the killings apparently because he was appalled by what Buhari and co had done?

Dear MODs, kindly promote this thread to front page. The dark past of some our politicians need to be brought to fore.

https://www.nairaland.com/1281540/how-gen-muhammadu-buhari-murdered

Olaolufred: OBJ RULED NIGERIA DESPITE PARTICIPATING IN BIAFRA WAR.
PROBABLY HE MUST HAVE KILLED ONE OR TWO BIAFRAN SOLDIERS OR CIVILIAN.
DOES THAT DISQUALIFY HIM FROM RULING NIGERIA TWICE?
YOU MAY KNOW BETTER.

Obj fought in the civil war, he probably commanded troops who killed more Biafran soldiers (in battle) than Buhari can ever think of butchering. But Obj was not know to have slaughter unarmed comrades in cold blood. Therein lies the difference between the two men - one (Obj) was a commander , the other (buhari) was just a cold blooded butcher.



Perhaps you should read it again slowly, and try to imagine the scenario:

By the time (Murtala) Muhammed got to Ikeja, Captain Martin Adamu, Lts. Nathan, Nassarawa, Muhammadu Buhari , Alfred Gom, Longboem and a bunch of NCOs were already in control of the battalion, having executed several Igbo soldiers and officers (including Major B Nnamani, one of the company commanders) and arrested many others by cordoning off the quartermaster section of the barracks or grabbing soldiers as they came out for morning PT.

(Murtala) Muhammed reportedly gave orders to stop the killing

Please tell us what is gallant (brave) in the action of Muhammadu Buhari and his gang of butchers here, in comparison with whatever Obj might have done.

Dede1: Bros, you do not need to bother about ill-informed troll who still dwells on innuendoes and silly rumors. I stopped taking the poster seriously when he\she had this to say- “Fajuyi paid with his life, when he decided to protect his guest and C-IN-C Irons”.

You can easily discern the class of intellect of the aforementioned individual by the class of goons who are fanning ambers of support for his\her goofy sketch.

My brother thanks for your wisdom,
I do not intend to entertain him. I only want to reach others who, though redeemable, yet think like him.

eagle,eye:
Point B,
I may disappoint you with my reply, but I have always believed in the saying that what is source for the Igbo man, should not be poison to the Hausa or Yoruba man.
In your righteous exultation, you have forgotten that the Hausa man will always come up with the arguement that It was an Igbo man, Nzeogwu, who first introduced coup in Nigeria. Did you ever stop to think how the other people felt when a fellow soldier(s) took up arms and went to kill both civilians and Other Soldiers in the wake of the first coup in Nigeria.
You are entitled to your opinion of Buhari being a muderer and should not try to foist your views on other Igbos and/or try to make theem feel guilt for supporting Buhari and his Ideologies.
By the way am Igbo and will defend the Igbo course, but I will not foolishly think that the events of the 60's especially the era of Coup and blood letting leading to the civil war, will make me emotionally blackmail.
Until Buhari is tried by a competent court of Justice, he still remains Innocent of all the accusations you levelled against him.

Actually, I am not disappointed in anyway to encounter a so-called Igbo defending the murder of his fellow Igbos by hausa/fulani elements, hiding under circumstance. Actually, there are quite a number of Igbos like yourself, who prefer to play the ostrich and pretend all is well even as Igbos are continually massacred in the north with the connivance of their leaders, in mold of Buhari, despite the fact that the we are not in the 'era of coups and civil war.'

I also wonder where you saw absolve Nzeogwu in this thread, or I praise him for killing civilians or his other soldiers during his naive coup. As a matter of fact, Nzeogwu is dead, and Ojukwu never won any election in Nigeria on the account of his role in Biafra.

As for Buhari being a murderer, I can only say you lied when you claimed it was my opinion. The source of the story is provided for you to verify. Buhari indeed either supervised or participated in the murdering of his comrades. Perhaps, you should be wondering how many of those Igbo officers Buhari personally killed in the orgy, his demeanor when he pull the trigger to send those surprised and half awake comrades to their maker.

It is shameful that you easily conceded that Nzeogwu and co in the first coup killed other soldiers, but when it was revealed that Buhari also participated in revenge killing Igbo soldiers, you defer to a court of competent jurisdiction. Pray, which court of competent jurisdiction convicted Nzeogwu (who was given a state burial by FG)? How would you claim you defend Igbo, yet pander to double standard when judging Igbos conducts vis-a-vis others? Some of you don't even know who you are anymore. It such a shame!

Nevertheless, I have not forced my view of any Igbos. I only aim for intelligent people (non Igbos inclusive) to know the man - buhari, better, especially in view of the revelation that he participated in killing defenseless people. What they do with such knowledge is entirely up to them.

The prediction in the post is becoming more likely. However, while I believe Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Soludo et al has what it takes to rescue Nigeria, Nigeria political permutation is not likely to throw them up at this time.

Rochas and Ngige in APC seems more likely, with the former more 'acceptable' to Nigerians. The 2015 journey is nevertheless still evolving...

Mad Cow: Check my Owerri picture thread.. I brought pictures of Freedom square. The place has even started falling apart. Strong winds and Imolites have vandalized the place.

You know one can be too sure these days which of the unknown member okija handle to check for your posts. Can you please provide a link to the thread.

Where are the MODS?
The thread is a candidate for front page. Pls see it done!
https://www.nairaland.com/1282080/group-petitions-jonathan-over-hausanisation

Bliss4Lyfe: A Murderer running for President only in Nigeria, in the real world, he did be facing charges for crimes against humanity.

That's the sad story of Nigeria.

A man who brutally participated and supervised in the butchering of his own defenseless colleagues have somehow become champion and voice of the nation. It can only happen in a country without conscience, a country with sense of justice or fairness.

People like Buhari; people with innocent blood on their head only bring curse to the country they lead.

Ngwakwe: @PointB

Thanks for the information.

Noted my brother. You are welcome.

Interesting revelations.

It is without doubt that several of Nigeria Federal Institution are generally driven with by those with primitive perspective on nation building. How can one begin to fathom police institution of a vast country like Nigeria where a major ethnic group - Igbos are deliberating schemed out. How can Nigeria progress with this kind of systematic injustice and marginalization of Igbos in several spheres of the Nigeria society.

I sincerely hope that the Presidency, National Assembly, the PSC and other agencies involved step in to correct this anomaly. The IGP Abubakar should be relieved of his duties if found culpable.

Sincere 9gerian: The building is almost completed na if not 100% completed.

Really? Do you have any picture?

automaticcarzz: You have no proof of him being a murderer. Although, he was involved in a coup to overthrow a democratically elected President without killing a single person. The proof you posted above holds no water in court of law. You may have a legitimate reason to be against him but Buhari is no murderer. Out of all the names you listed, why singling only him out as murderer? Do you have the list of people he killed while he was Head of State? If so, what was their wrongdoing?

Look at this one talking about court of law in this matter. It's like talking about court of law to prove Abiola was murdered in prison. Stop reasoning like a child my guy!

Of course GEJ should visit Baga when he hasn't nothing more important to do. Like after he has visited my village to see how the folks who voted him live their normal lives.

He should build it first. We can talk about it use, even long after he has gone!

automaticcarzz: Violence was the norm for military officers back then. Yoruba, Igbos and Hausas officers engaged in a lot of blood-letting back then. You made it look like Buhari was the leader of the pack but I saw several officers on the list were superior to him in the military. What about if Buhari was only responding to orders from the superiors? It is okay to have legitimate disagreement with Buhari, but this thing you dug up won't make anyone change their minds, be it for or against?.

I do not intend for you to change your opinion about the murderer - Buhari. I just wanted you to know that guy, despite whatever anyone will say, was involve in the planning and execution of the plot to butchers fellow citizens in cold blood. Several of them were his defenseless colleagues.

If Buhari can do this, what else is he capable of?

automaticcarzz: T.Y Danjuma was one of the culprits on the list and he happens to President Jonathan's role model. Jonathan said it himself that T.Y Danjuma was his role model as a politician.

Sad to note that. But TY Danjuma is no longer a public figure. I doubt he aspires to rule the country. We can't say same for the General, Muhammadu Buhari, who butchered his colleagues as they came out for morning PT.

Omo_Tier1: This is what a nation end up with when their institution of learning is turned into grounds that certificate cowards

I agree. Cowards that murder their comrades in cold blood; cowards like Buhari!

Biafran soldiers indeed!

slimghost: Berem is not igbo pleaseeeeeeeee. She is yoruba!!! (At least by marriage). I will stop here for now until provoked further.

lol

GenBuhari: Iam Igbo ooh!

lol. I am Barack Obama!

noblezone: I don't care whether Buhari killed Igbo officers, civilians or not!

This is not 1966, this is 2013!

BUHARI cannot and must not rule Nigeria! It is as simple as that!

From 1960 till today, only a few men had held this useless jungle of a country to ransom.
Enough is enough!

Fair enough.

I personally don't like those who have blood on their hands to ascend the presidency.

Ogbuefi_Negro: Point B.

What is your purpose with post? Do you want a discussion on Buhari's eligibility for presidential race in 2015, or, do you want to discuss his participation in 66 coup?

I couldn't careless how you choose to interpret the post. I reserve the right to entertain your or not whatever angle you choose. My basic concern is that those who root for Buhari should know the man better.

Baffling really is that some ignorant sons and daughters of Igboland will promote this man who has murdered their own flesh and blood as messiah of Nigeria. Very baffling...

A sad story of how brilliant Igbo officers were murdered by their comrade with Buhari copiously mentioned in his staring role.


http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/nigeria_facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/NorthCounterCoup.htm

In January 1966, some bunch of over-zealous, albeit naive officers of the Nigeria army took it upon themselves to cleanse Nigeria from corrupt politician. They plotted, and executed an unsuccessful military coup. Stories, and books have been written about them, I shall not attempt to revisit such especially since these folks are late (at least most of them.)

I am interested in the role a certain Mohammadu Buhari played in the July counter-coup. According to Nowa Omoruwa's account:

Planning:

"... practically all northern officers serving in Lagos, Abeokuta, Ikeja and Ibadan eventually became involved, three officers formed the innermost circle of the plot to overthrow Major General AguiyiIronsi. They were T/Lt. Col.Murtala Muhammed (Inspector of Signals), T/Major TY Danjuma (General Staff Officer II, SHQ) and Captain Martin Adamu (2nd Battalion, Ikeja).The coup leader was T/Lt. Col.Murtala Muhammed.

According to late Major General Garba (rtd), others involved in planning in the South include Captain JN Garba, Lt. William Walbe and Lt. Paul Tarfa (Federal Guards), [size=15pt]Lts. Muhammadu Buhari [/size] and John Longboem (2nd battalion), Lts. Pam Nwatkon (Abeokuta garrison, Recce), Lts Jerry Useni,Ibrahim Bako and Garba Dada(4th battalion, Ibadan), and Lt. Shehu Musa Yar'Adua (Adjutant, 1st battalion, Enugu).

Execution:

By the time (Murtala) Muhammed got to Ikeja, Captain Martin Adamu, Lts. Nathan, Nassarawa, [size=14pt] Muhammadu Buhari [/size] , Alfred Gom, Longboem and a bunch of NCOs were already in control of the battalion, having executed several Igbo soldiers and officers (including Major B Nnamani, one of the company commanders) and arrested many others by cordoning off the quartermaster section of the barracks or grabbing soldiers as they came out for morning PT.The battalion commander, Lt. Col. Henry Igboba, narrowly escaped a dragnet deployed around his house by Lt. Longboem and got away.

(Murtala) Muhammed reportedly gave orders to stop the killing

I know some will argue here that Mohammadu Buhari simply killed fellow soldiers. But does that make it right?