₦airaland Forum

chamboi1:
My main problem with most people from south-east Nigeria is Arrogancy. They never admit to be do anything wrong and also they don't call out their people practising this Tribalism.

We (Yorubas) are not all that great at all, but we admit wrongs. We know a lot of us like comfort zone. Yes, we know we can be tribal bigots by discriminating the Igbos or other tribes. Yes, we know we can be all Lot of things. we admit and collectively working on our wrongs.

Do what makes you happy, even it means calling yourself sophiscated. Igbos will do what make them happy, even it means calling Lagos, No Man's Land, in line with Lateef Jakande's suggestion. If you don't like us, "go to court or go and burn a market." This your nonsense ranting about Igbos must end. We are not in Nigeria to kowtow to urchins like you in particular. You represent no one important by the way.

Dentidon:
Useless toxic people should rather go back to their region. You can't hate us on our soil except you want to sink

The 'soil' belongs to Nigeria you clown. I don't need your permission to live and thrive anywhere in Nigeria. The sooner you get that into your thick skull the better for you bigoted urchin.

Now run off and go and burn an 'Igbo' market in Lagos, yeye.

Eyin accomodators, e pele o.

FYI the only accommodator here is the law of the land aka constitution. You bigots should let us have peace with your useless threads.

dexmond:
World Igbo Congress is very ignorant of how the world operates. These people have refused to understand or blatantly ignored some basic facts.

When you try to get the attention of US President using Christianity you have undone yourself! These people are Satan worshipers. They don't support justice, good, things that are right. They are are incapable of such due to their occultism. They are trying to empower the followers of Hubaal to continue to ensure that Christianity struggles. Thats why they make lots of noise when followers of Hubaal are treated badly but keep quiet on genocide against Christians around the world.

I wish WIC can see.

Please have you seen Satan before? How does he/she/it look?

Dentidon:
Where did Jakande call it no man's land? When I say Ipob are dull. Dey use your brain. You don't know it was write up..

Lol. Keep wailing as you can't read.

MudRaker:
Hypocrisy is when you leave your cursed savage region and go to another man's land and be doing busybody.

Dem no go tell una to begin pack una kaya go back yeast .

Attache by force one nijeriya parasites

Are you talking about the land the Great Lateef Jankande called No Man's Land? Or which land again?

MudRaker:
OSU,stop already.

This thing you are doing will cement your total expulsion from Nigeria .


Las las Tinubu go grant una Biafra for una .

Stop ke? When according to your estimation Lagos is within our reach? Abi you're not thinking?

Lagos first, okay?

sarrki:
It’s a different ball game now

Go on the street and see nah

I'm the street, boy. It's different for you. It's same for the rest of the world. You're on the fringe, that's why they call guys like you 'urchins'. Wake up and smell the coffee, the world has move on from your tiny mindedness.

sarrki:
Asiwaju mandate will stand

They did that through Arthur nzeribe in 1993

We won’t allow that

Also lagos matter will be settled this weekend

After the election it will never be the same again

Four years ago it was one Oba Akiolu, today urchins, four years from now, you will come back to this Lagos matter. No be juju be that?

@Op and co,

Keep the hate coming. That's the fuel we used in thriving. What happens when you turn on the heat (hate) on water (Igbo)? You give it more kinetic energy. So pls don't stop. We need more.

tolue42:
DON'T PUT MOUTH INTO OUR POLITICS IN YORUBA LAND!

Go and write that into the Nigerian Constitution and we will comply.

I know the Op is a bigot and would want to see Igbo leave Lagos, and other places in Nigeria. Well, Igbos will leave as soon as those other part of Nigeria becomes a country of the own and decides to kick Igbos out.

Until then, I'm bringing some of my remaining siblings to Lagos this week. About 5 of them. I don't know what they are still doing in the village, when Lagos is there for them to come and live in.

So guy, expect more of us. We are legion!

yaki84:
How will he win more states, from where will he win more states?

You obviously haven't been following.

yaki84:
win more states from where?

States where issues r, he already had his 25percent in those states..

Rivers, Akwaibom, plateau, lagos.

He won plateau and lagos, so even if they recount in those states, either he gets more votes but every other indices will still remain the same.

States he needs to focus his case are those core northern states.
He didnt get 25percent in any of those states.

Just like no other candidate got 25percent in SE states

If LP wins more states than PDAPC, and doesn't have the national spread, that automatically triggers a re-run. I don't know why you need someone to spell that out for you.

Saintinoo:
How many urchins live in Anambra?

This is so hilarious, but point blank. Lol

seunmsg:
Your first basis is just empty delusion. Even if Obio Akpor is taken away from APC, Tinubu will remain in the lead as the 80k votes are inconsequential. Again, Peter Obi will also lose a lot of votes as the entire votes will be cancelled and not just Tinubu’s votes. The rigging in the South east will also be exposed and Peter Obi will lose most of his votes from the region.

Your second basis is so empty. Section 299 of the Constitution as already settled the status of FCT. For all constitutional matters, FCT is treated as a state. That settles it.

Your last basis is simply based on ignorance. Did the non transmission of results directly from polling units affect the outcome of the election substantially? The answer is no. Result of the election can only be cancelled if the violation of INEC rule substantially affected the outcome. In this case, the transmission which has now been done did not affect the outcome in any way. All results from ward to national collation centers were duly signed by party agents. Non transmission from polling unit is non issue.

Clearly you didn't digest the initial post well. If you did, you wouldn't have miss this line - As citizens statisticians continued to pore through results uploaded on the INEC IREV server, expect more of such inconsistences. Obio Apkor is just a tip of the iceberg. APC will be stripped on substantial votes when the analysis is completed.

As for the constitutional matter of 25% votes in FCT, did you watch the video attached?

Concerning the issue of transmission, why didn't INEC wait until the results were fully transmitted before announcing the result. Even as we speak now, the IReV portal does not have the complete result of the election. I bet you haven't even bothered checking. The non transmission of result from polling station certainly created the opportunity for the manipulation of several result sheets, which was used for the collation, and subsequently the final result. That's why the guideline required transmission in realtime. Failure of INEC to do that, in line with published guidelines, eroded the transparency, and therefore the credibility of the process.

LP will give SW Senate Presidency when the dust settles.

No need to rush. Everyone should calm down, especially the riggers.

Godwin4444:
I am talking about north west n north east

The mistake u people make is thinking all Christian’s will vote obi so u are calculating the Christian population in Nigeria

What about ekiti n ondo that are predominantly Christian’s but didn’t vote obi?

I didn't think Obi was under the illusion he was going to win NE or NW. There are strategic states in those Zones where LP believe they could win 25%, Kaduna being a prime example. When the inflated votes are removed, you will see a clearer picture. Obi for example got 21% in Kaduna, 23.9 in Akwa Ibom . Adjustment in the figures of APC and PDP will hand him the required %, in those states, and will hand him the required numbers for national spread, and potentially deny other parties same opportunity.

Tinubu! Tinubu!! Tinubu!!!

How many time I call you? Listen and listen good. Never steal from a man that doesn't give shishi. It doesn't end well.

yaki84:
Even if PO scores the highest number of votes cast, he WON'T be declared the winner cos he doesnt have the mandatory 25percent spread in atleast 24states.

My concern now is if eventually the court declare that inec erred In announcing the winner, who between AA and PO will contest the rerun.against BAT?

LP will meticulously recount the votes, hoping to win more spread first, and more numbers. They don't really need more states at this stage, just more overall numbers. If the LP is not able to do this, then the rerun will be between APC and PDP, especially if the court insist on the 25% FCT votes.

colestephan86:
What part of the construction said that.
Show the word how intelligent and up to date you .

I do not get your question, and by way, I'm not here to show off my intelligence. There are other fora where I can do that.

For the avoidance of doubt, the constitution says AND FCT, it did not say and LAGOS or IMO, or KOGI.

If FCT was not special, the constitution wouldn't have made a direct reference to it. But that's for the court to determine, based on the 2008 precedence.

Godwin4444:
hope u know the same way others can’t get 25% in d south east is the same way many I mean many states will never vote obi

I believe u saw results of d north, so if u claim no one will support other candidates in d east they will tell u no one can support obi in d north too

Funny enough north has more states than south east, don’t forget if obi had 97% in d east which is 5 states he will have less that 5% in d north which is over 10 states n same in d south west states too


So can u see arguments n counter arguments so tell me how a student who have A in 1 unit course n F in 4 unit course can claim he passed?

Again I ask you, which North?

SE is Igbo, and Christian. Is North Hausa, Fulani, Nupe, Gwari, Igala, Tiv, Kanuri, or ...? Is North Muslims or Christians? You're failing to account for these differences that why you keep saying North. There is no more monolithic North, especially in this 2023 election. The Muslim-Muslim ticket, Tinubu baggage, Atiku unpopularity with some Northern state, and Obi meteoric rise changed the dynamic of the election. So you need to account for those rather that shouting North.

Godwin4444:
can u confidently say it that the lp won in d north or also got 25%?

It depends on which part of the north your referring too. NC, NE, NW? Cos the North is not one. The Christian population in the North surely have their own agenda.

Godwin4444:
so u believe nobody will talk about all d 97% obi got in d east?


U people talk about what u call your strength without thinking of that of d opponent n that’s a recipe for disaster

None of the other candidates can win 25% of the SE votes, cos of the way SE vote. Don't forget also that SE is almost a homogenous society, with high sense of justice. The worst that will happen in SE is that Obi might lose some votes, but that SE will give Tinubu or Atiku 25%, is highly unlikely. There is not a single motivation for SE to vote anyone of the other candidates. None whatsoever!

Winning over 90% in the SE by Obi is not an aberration.

Godwin4444:
only atiku have a case, even if rivers n lagos votes are canceled, obi didn’t get 25% in 24 states n besides evidences of rigging will b established in the south east n many of them are obvious


Atiku might have a case but he doesn’t have d figures

Forget anything like winning fct or cancellation of election, that is impossible

So if they cancel election cos some candidates that lost pleaded d election b canceled n they conduct another one, what if other candidates that lose out too says they want election cancelled again?

So the cycle will continue meaning they might canceled the election till forever cos everyone can never b satisfied especially in a case where only one winner can b declared

Looks like you didn't read or analyse the post. No further comment.

chivic:
APC will not argue for election cancellation but they will insist that they won.By the time it get to that stage ,it will be to late for them to demand for the cancellation because that would not be in their initial submission.

LP on the other hand will need to prove that they got 25% in about 24 state which they are also claiming while trying to reduce the number of state where the APC got 25% so that it will be below 24.They are hoping to knock off APC is Lagos , plateau,Rivers ,Bayelsa ,Cross river ,and one or two state from the 25% criteria while laying claims of 25% in Ogun,Ekiti,Bauchi,Gombe,Adamawa,Borno etc.

PDP on the other hand will hope that LP does not get the required 25% in the required state .They have a strong believe that LP will reduce the vote declared for APC massively which will then make them the party with the required spread of 25% and more vote than APC even if LP has more vote than them.Ideally this scenario would have lead to a runoff election but supreme court can do magic.

Recounting will strip huge numbers from APC votes and swell that on the opposition. So APC will not be in a position to insist they won. They will argue for a general cancellation of the election, or that the issues be overlooked in the 'interest of peace'. Their henchmen will float the idea of Government of National Unity. Ironically, it's the LP that will now be asking for the election to stand, with IREV result as a basis for tabulation, contrary to their initial submission. This is because LP will easily prove they won more states and had the required spread. PDP will argue for a run-off against LP. APC will come distant third, and will have incoherent position.

colestephan86:
Are the Nigerians in FCT , super Nigerians?

I'm sure that's what the constitution says. Otherwise, that clause would have been AND 'Lagos'. Which would have granted Lagosians special status. So right now, Nigerians in the FCT are 'super Nigerians.' The constitution made it so. Maybe you should consider relocating to Abuja to claim your super Nigerian status too. Don't leave too late.

yaki84:
Even if PO scores the highest number of votes cast, he WON'T be declared the winner cos he doesnt have the mandatory 25percent spread in atleast 24states.

My concern now is if eventually the court declare that inec erred In announcing the winner, who between AA and PO will contest the rerun.against BAT?

If the results are re-tallied, Obi will win more states, and increase his spread. That's the point here.

It's no news that INEC declared Mr. Bola A. Tinubu as the winner of the Feb' 25th elections. Sequel to that, some presidential aspirants have approached the court to examine sensitive material used in the election. This is a precursor to filing appeals for a redress. While we don't know exactly what the various party will be asking for, however based on several commentators on the matter, notably Former Attorney General, Mr, Michael Aondoaka, one can see the various possible angles for upturning the pronouncement of the INEC chairman.


1. Inconsistence in announced and transmitted results.

A notable inconsistence between belatedly transmitted and announced result was recently circulated online. It was the case of Obi Akpor LGA in River State, where LP were clearly short changed in favour of APC. As citizens statisticians continued to pore through results uploaded on the INEC IREV server, expect more of such inconsistences. The potential for this to reduce the number allocated to the supposed winner, while swelling the number of the supposed losers, is a very important result of this. Lagos, PH, Benue, Plateau, Akwa Ibom, are among states where the LP might garner more votes than currently announced for them. And extension, APC losing more the lead margin. Debit APC, Credit LP,


2. The Conjunctive Clause 'AND' FCT

Never in the history of Nigeria's checkered electoral history has AND assumed so much importance than now. English scholars, quasi-lawyers, and professional lawyers all however, seems to agree with the former Attorney General, Mr, Michael Aondoaka, that AND FCT is a conjunctive clause, implying obtaining 25% FCT votes is the NO 1 requirement of the election (in a manner of speaking). Incidentally, the APC candidate Mr. Bola A. Tinubu did not meet this basic constitutional requirement. It's an understatement to say that INEC hastily announced him winner, in the dead of the night, even before the first cock crow.

3. Electronic (Non) Transmission of result
It's not necessary to go into the nitty-gritty of the electoral law to determine whether transmission in Realtime is mandated by the law or not. What is important actually is what the electoral body established as part of the electoral guideline. Without gainsaying, the INEC Chairman severally announced, in different fora, that the result will be transmitted in Realtime from the polling station. This is the understanding of the candidates going into the election. Did INEC transmit the Presidential Result in Real Time as stipulated in their own guideline? NO. Clearly this is like a case of dribbling the candidates and electorates. INEC broke it's own rule. This is clearly a major reason for upturning the result as declared.

That said, what is expected of the three main candidates as this unfold?

First LP - Obi

Mr Obi will definately argue that he be declared winner of the election, based on number of votes cast, cos it's most likely the recomputed results will favour him

PDP

It's in the interest of the PDP to go for a re-run, as they might likely come second, when all the illegal votes might have been stripped from the APC candidate.

APC

APC will either push for total cancellation and fresh election, or argue for the court to overlook all those infraction, and continue with business as usual, as there is no precedence for upturning of a presidential election by the court in Nigeria. It is not clear which they will opt for.

Citizens

Waiting with bated breath,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43_mR6Z9-3w

saintrow1:
i back him, weve had enough of you ingrates

Ingrates? Your parents?