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LordReed:
Quote were I wrote reproductive age.

Must be your wife that wrote this below

Actually very encouraging verses for real

FRANCISTOWN:
I wish I could see you right now and land you a knock on that your small head like a year old baby's fist.

Does not loving broccoli, watching TV, not drinking lots of water and eating tasty foods cause people to not be able to reproduce when they reach the reproductive stage?

You'd be on your back before you can say "habit" - I'm a black belt in Karate😎

That's exactly my point! (have you lost your mind!) - I've been saying just because an organism reaches reproductive age doesn't mean it automatically reproduces. While you and LordReed have been all about reproductive age!
You sure u ok?

FRANCISTOWN:
Whatever Einstein, Newton or Socrates said about God was only good for their pocket.

Since God is supposed to be the God of the whole world. No one is more qualified than the other to talk about him.

This point above remains valid to people who have not gotten their brain twisted by religious and appeal to authority's foolishness.

Yeah! Some fools follow anything and anyone. I've been trying to avoid them. Let's both avoid them together.

Like I've said b4, since we here on earth basically don't know anything, we are NOT qualified to have opinion on God based on logic. We can only comment on God based on instinct or personal experience.
And like I've said, we all experience reality differently - just because you feel God doesn't exist for you doesn't mean he does not exist for another person!

FRANCISTOWN:
Haha! What's doing this one?
Where have I denied that they aren't habits?
Do you even read to understand at all?


People with unhealthy genes still get to reproductive stage i.e people with serious blood diseases and disorders still get to procreate and pass on those unhealthy genes to their offsprings, generation upon generation.
Therefore, you just spoke another nonsense.

Wait first, what exactly do you understand?

@The emboldened, you just showed this honourable forum that you are better off working at a cassava processing factory.
Academics isn't for you. Please consider fishing.

Seriously! I'd get a better intellectual advantage if I was having this debate with a 6 years old kid.

See below where you implicitly denied it - do you see any mention that they are habits??

You are playing ignorant again.
You've already been told that reaching reproductive age does not guarantee reproduction (see diabetes example below) and eventually the bad trait should disappear
But even if you banned disseaed people from reproducing, diseases would be transmitted by carriers who have the genes without ever experiencing the disease, also by mutations.

budaatum:
Descartes might have thought therefore he was, but I buda am, therefore I think, since I couldn't possibly be thinking if I wasn't in existence.

But don't be surprised, just answer the questions if you would. I'll ignore you otherwise.

Answer what questions?
Well, we don't know the nature of thinking just as we don't know the true nature of reality. We know people
who died and came back say they were thinking while dead. Also people possessed, dreaming, etc.
But even beyond that we can't even claim to be sure it is actually what we call "thinking" going on!

budaatum:
Why do you have no way of knowing the true nature of what you experience?

Are you incapable of interpreting the data you collect from your own experiences?

Why can you not know whether your experience is reality or whether it physically exists (and you actually experienced it)?

Do your senses not work?

Wow, I'm surprised you're asking something so obvious. Did you watch the movie the matrix? The only thing we can be sure exists is thinking or something like it. Descartes summarized it with "I think, therefore I am". Though he was wrong in linking himself to the thinking

budaatum:
Are you an earthly folk?

Do you not know ANYTHING?

No I actually don't, because I have no way of knowing the true nature of what I experience as reality or whether it physically exists at all!

FRANCISTOWN:
I've said it several times. Nothing, I repeat nothing has fit into the existence of what should be called a God. This world we live in is a testament that there can't be a thing called God. If there were demons, I would have said the multiverse was created by demons.

Anyways, I'm qualified to have an opinion about God. I had a cup of tea with him yesterday.

Einstein, Newton, Socrates, etc all said they knew nothing. They were right. Not only don’t humans know anything, they're incapable of knowing anything.

You are simply NOT even close to being qualified to even have anything close to opinion as to whether anything fits into the existence of what should be called a God!

FRANCISTOWN:
Make I die if I allow make you help me save face. You made a huge blunder and I tried to point your attention towards it.

Look at this


You said according to Natural Selection

Case 1: Eating broccoli, loving going to the gym( this is different from going to the gym, as you can love something and not do it), loving bland foods. Should be seen in about 90% humans because they are good.

Case 2: Hating juicy, sumptuous steak, watching TV, loving sweet drinks and tasty drinks are not supposed to be seen in up to 10% humans.

And I explained by saying that: taking juice, sumptuous steak, watching TV isn't bad in the grand events of Natural Selection because it doesn't stop humans from reaching the reproductive stage(RS).

Likewise everything in CASE 1 does not guarantee that any human will reach the reproductive stage.

If humans didn't eat broccoli they would still survive up till the RS, mind you there are other vegs.
If humans didn't drink lots of water they'd still survive up till RS. (Lots of water is different from required amount of water)
If humans don't go to the Gym they'd still survive up till RS.

And I said those things are not determinants in evolution by Natural Selection because they are not necessary for humans' survival based on adaptation and instinct in their environment.

I repeat, Natural Selection is about survival, not your habit.
Now if your habit was necessary for survival, then it becomes a trait. Now tell me how loving broccoli is necessary for survival up until the RS

Another blunder you made was viewing Natural Selection from the view of genetic inheritance.

Please point out where I made any error or plead your ignorance and take a bow.

First of all you are LYING. You said clearly and severally that those are habits NOT traits transmitted genetically. I don't know why you lying about something you said severally and clearly!

Secondly, you are arguing nonsense again. You obviously didn't read my post where I said reaching repro age doesn't mean you'd reproduce. You have to be HEALTHIER enough, STRONGER enough, and "richer" enough to actually get a mate (competition) and be healthy enough to actually physically mate, and have enough healthy seeds to actually reproduce.
Bottom line: over millions of years those with unhealthy traits SHOULD die off, leaving only those who love "eating broccoli and going to the gym"!

HellVictorinho6:
what!

u what!

wait!

what was i even thinking!

watz hapnin!

What what?? WHAT are you talking about?! Has it ever occurred to you I make my billions doing something

FRANCISTOWN:
A prediction which came to pass is not a proof of the existence of any God.

If it were? Then I'm a god myself.

As an atheist, I do speak into people's lives and those things which I speak always come to pass the exact way I say them. I don't feel any special kind of way when I speak those things. I just say them playfully. And I've been consistent like crazy.

Like I've said,, I think the greatest flaw of the human mind (and a flaw we are NOT aware of) is that we each assume everybody experiences reality same way we do.
When infact, you can say we all live in different worlds though we are physically in same world. Life is almost entirely subjective.
When you add to that the fact that our earth is not even a speck in our small galaxy, and that our galaxy is not even a speck in the universe, and that our universe could be one of infinite number of universes.
Then add to that that you don’t know the true nature of existence or reality.
Add all that and you'll KNOW you are NOT qualified to have an opinion on God or anybody's relationship with him!

FRANCISTOWN:
Haha! Isn't this plenty like this?
Celestial being wey know everything.

I include myself. We don't know anything. We shouldn't arrive at opinions on God and supernatural through logic. We should only arrive at such through instinct and direct experience

budaatum:
Science, as in what we learn by using our senses, constantly evolves.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/mar/09/controversial-new-theory-of-gravity-rules-out-need-for-dark-matter

The theory is nothing. Someone already proposed a theory that the universe itself does not exist!

budaatum:
You definitely don't know the true nature of my existence. You don't even know what I look like or whether I can spell my name or not, so I doubt you'd qualify to appraise my opinion about anything at all.

I don't have to know you. I know you think there is no supernatural and I know earthly folks don't know ANYTHING

budaatum:
That is no a reason to now invent things in my subjective head and then claim they objectively really exist.

But if you are that sort, help me with my Ferrari desires please.

But nobody invented anything. These are encounters people have. Just because you don’t have them... I told you we all live in different realities

HellVictorinho6:
I said letz meet on watsap 2 see how we can proceed

whatever the case

I don't have time to waste.
I have to know in advance.
And the only way I can know is if I drop my account and you drop me something right here on NL

budaatum:
Science, as in what we learn by using our senses, constantly evolves.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/mar/09/controversial-new-theory-of-gravity-rules-out-need-for-dark-matter

Your senses? Do you know you can only see 0.003% of light spectrum?
Maybe things were changed by "someone"- either the dark matter or the scientists

budaatum:
You definitely don't know the true nature of my existence. You don't even know what I look like or whether I can spell my name or not, so I doubt you'd qualify to appraise my opinion about anything at all.

Shorten what? We are talking "Buddha" not "Shokolokobangoshe"!

budaatum:
I don't "believe there is a supernatural to begin with" because I know there isn't a supernatural to begin with and I love my God books.

You don't know ANYTHING. That's just a fact. You don't even know the true nature of your existence or of reality.
You are simply NOT qualified to have opinion about supernatural

budaatum:
My human mind does not have the flaw of assuming everybody experiences reality the same way I do because that would imply that everybody has trained and cultivated the senses with which they experience reality the same way I have mine, and I have not found that to be so.

I in fact do not even assume everybody perceives the reality that is acting on them without them experiencing it.


We all do live on this same earth in this same world, but just the fact we may live in different places means our lifes are subjective to us, but claiming what subjective I perceive or claim to be true, is objective, is a bit of a wuruwuru jump to me.

My life might be subjective to subjective me, but my subjective opinion is not the objective world.



Is one of them called TBJoshua?

I have no problem with anyone who claims to "KNOW 200% that God exists - because they talk with {"with"NOT "to"} him everyday", but i wouldn't do business with such people, and I wouldn't generally socialise with them or marry them, and they wouldn't ask me to I don't think.



I don't "believe there is a supernatural to begin with" because I know there isn't a supernatural to begin with and I love my God books.

You don't know ANYTHING. That's just a fact. You don't even know the true nature of your existence or of reality.
You are simply NOT qualified to have opinion about supernatural

HellVictorinho6:
Letz proceed

You sure?
I mean $400 per night range (I only deal in dollars)

budaatum:
Love the Polite. Evidence has supported it.

Thou should not make up imaginary subjective things about buda, considering you can not possibly know what or how much buda may have absorbed and or processed with buda's own mind that and because it is subject to buda. Objectively speaking that is.

What's this your obsession with Buddha? And how come you can't spell the name?

FRANCISTOWN:
I've told people things will happen and they did happen. But I've not heard from any God so far. Wait! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Yeah but you didn’t consistently do it. And you didn't tell them you were doubting what you were told about a certain MOG dying because it seemed impossible, then shortly after, TB died!

FRANCISTOWN:
Most irritating. Let's avoid such useless word please.


Now I see where the problem is. You must have misconstrued my intentions.

My emphasis from begining had been on Evolution by Natural Selection on survival based on adaptation and instinct.

You misunderstood evolution for inheritance.
You are failing to see the big picture here.

Inheritance is a very small part of evolution.
Evolution is like the entire hydrosphere, inheritance is like the river at your backyard ✌️😂

😅 OK, I'd help you save face. Only that you were arguing it for pages - and it's all there for all to read.
You'd be alright las las, insha Allah

HellVictorinho6:
Message me

Watsap

09163989689

I'm a bit on the high side. U sure u can handle it?
(I mean handle the high amount - be serious, I'm not jocking)

HellVictorinho6:
but u know am not happy with u

Seems u dont care


What can bring us closer?

Tell me

What sorta service makes u friendly?


Engage me

I do hook-ups on the low

budaatum:
Aliens are a tough sell among scientists these days even if they are a hot topic in congressional hearings and popular culture.

On Friday, the Department of Defense released a lengthy report declaring there is no evidence that aliens have visited Earth, dismissing the venerable conjecture that the government has secretly recovered alien hardware.

https://wapo.st/3TwcLVe

When you fully absorb the implications of the fact that our earth is not even a speck in our small galaxy, and that our galaxy is not even a speck in the universe, and that our universe could be one of infinite number of universes, you'd realise this news means nothing

FRANCISTOWN:
The world love irritates me, I hate it so much to death. It makes me feel like throwing up. Ew!

Meanwhile you said:


Did I say human habits are the reasons natural selection hasn't made humans like healthy foods and exercise?

I'm failing to understand the quote with respect to the screenshot you attached.

That's why it is "luv". Less irritating, ain't it?

Stop playing dumb. You were going on and on as to why we did not get rid of the bad traits of liking junk food and hating exercise because those are habits and not inheritable!

FRANCISTOWN:
Haha! Interesting. Did you mean by having a cup of tea with him?

You can make fun but these are people who'd tell you God told them something, and it'll come to pass. There is sooo much to this our reality

HellVictorinho6:
Is dis madness a natural or a selection?

Hmmm, good question. What do you think? I'd really like to know

budaatum:
My human mind does not have the flaw of assuming everybody experiences reality the same way I do because that would imply that everybody has trained and cultivated the senses with which they experience reality the same way I have mine, and I have not found that to be so.

I in fact do not even assume everybody perceives the reality that is acting on them without them experiencing it.


We all do live on this same earth in this same world, but just the fact we may live in different places means our lifes are subjective to us, but claiming what subjective I perceive or claim to be true, is objective, is a bit of a wuruwuru jump to me.

My life might be subjective to subjective me, but my subjective opinion is not the objective world.

Is one of them called TBJoshua?

I have no problem with anyone who claims to "KNOW 200% that God exists - because they talk with {"with"NOT "to"} him everyday", but i wouldn't do business with such people, and I wouldn't generally socialise with them or marry them, and they wouldn't ask me to I don't think.

I don't "believe there is a supernatural to begin with" because I know there isn't a supernatural to begin with and I love my God books.

U a funny guy😅
Well, reality is subjective - even quantum mechanics seems to indicate our minds create it.
But beyond that, do you know where your thoughts come from? How about your dreams? How come you have absolutely no say over what dream you'd have?
And do you realize that if our earth is shrunk to the size of a seed, the diameter of our galaxy would still be from here to mars? Yet our galaxy is not even a spack in the universe?

All our geniuses come to the conclusion they know nothing, and they are right!

Consider: more than 95% of our universe is made up of dark matter/dark energy, yet we don't know what it is. We know it is there but we don't have the foggiest idea what it is!
Consider: scientists have determined there are at least 10 dimensions, and possibly up to a thousand. Yet we can perceive only 4. FOUR!
Consider: our earth is is so infinitestimally small compared to the observable universe you can almost say it doesn't exist (on a universe scale, you can't see the earth even with the strogest microscope). Yet the observable universe is only one 64 millionth of the estimated size of the our universe. Then there is the multiverse theory - there could be unlimited number of universes!
Compound all that with the fact that: limitations and manipulations could have been built into our perception of reality such that we only perceive what "they" want us to perceive. Scientists have no way of knowing what is really there!
Add to all that, brains and circumstances could be being manipulated on a day-to-day ongoing basis, while studies and observations are being done (we still don't know how or where our dreams come from!).

Add all that up and you'll realize, when Einstein, Newton, Galileo, and other geniuses said they knew nothing, maybe they were not as stupid as some people think they were!