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rinzaugustine:
many a times Nigerians will not tell you the truth only the version they want you to believe. People can leave canda for various reasons. Apart from people from comfortable families back home , those ones leaving might have saved up to 10-20m or more and want to return home to invest but won’t tell you that and also remember they have a safety net if their plan’s doesn’t work out- they can return to Canada. The main reason that make most of us want to go back home is not even what you think and most won’t tell you. It’s the work. Here work is different from Nigeria and comes with much pressure. When your job is 8 hours you must give them that 8 hours and anytime your performance drops they fire you immediately without notice- the mortgage from your big mansion, car notes from your 2023 Mercedes’ , phone bills , different kinds of insurance etc are tied to that job so if you lose that job, you must find another good paying one within a month or you lose everything and file for bankruptcy and it moves very fast. You know most Nigerians work hard but do cherish the idea of doing this till they are 65 years..food is thrown away daily here in US , healthcare top notch and every good life you can imagine here but that work life that never stops makes us think of back home to rest from that crazy work life but for your own you can make good money from IT, live below your means, save money for some years and return to Nigeria after to work in IT remotely or invest in a business

Thanks again for your post. So much info to glean from it. Yes, many Nigerians over there won't tell you the truth. Almost like they don't want you to come and enjoy like them. Or maybe there are things like work pressure that truly sour them. That and debt like you said. As for me, what concern me is the cold as cold weather - makes me sick. That and the racism y'all keep talking about

ogawisdom:
Even if its 2m monthly

If I hear say you miss this opportunity for mere less than 500usd that will move to less than ,400 USD before long.

Canada is the easy pick here

My reasoning also. Bu actually the salary quickly goes to 1m then 1.5. Decided not to mention that here, also because I never intended to stick around

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
OP no vex abeg.

What tech job are you doing that fetches you N500k?
Been wanting to dive into Tech but have been at a loss over what to study with full assurance.

Oh, said that right at the beginning
Software development, "software development support analyst" in this particular case. And the salary quickly goes to 1m, then 1.5m

FreeIgboho:
Sir you haven’t replied my dm. There is something important I want to discuss with you sir

I've received several dm's. I made it clear I generally don't do dm's. I don't see what we can't discuss on this thread.
Also I'm a young like you, not sir. All those sir make me suspicious and nervous😎

rinzaugustine:
My candid advice to you as someone living in the US is this…I have watched Nigeria closely for the past 30 years or more and my observation is that things keep getting worse by day. Any problem you see today in Nigeria I assure you will never get solved but will only get worse . I remember how as kids graduate unemployment problem started small small under Shagari , today jobs are almost non existent, problem of NEPA started with taking light for a few minutes from the mid 80s to today no light at all, cultism in universities started with break bottles on head in early 90s to full blown killings in campuses, water corporations had taps running back then until the problems started manifesting in the early 90s today , states water corporation is dead with every now digging boreholes without minding the environmental damage in future, kidnapping for ransom started around 2005 with Niger delta groups kidnapping oil workers for money, today it has spread to every where in the country including all the major highways and villages, problem of Nigeria’s refineries started around mid 90s , ordinary to repair refineries every country does have had Nigeria spend hundreds of billions of dollars with no single result that Nigeria is now importing petroleum finished products 100% now etc . In essence for the past 30 years any problem you see today will never get solved but will get worse and out of hand as the years go. Many Nigerians seem to live in the same fools paradise that Nigeria will get better lol. Nigeria seems like a nation that’s cursed to get worse everyday why? I followed the campaigns of late Abiola and recently Obi and those men unlike other leaders I have seen before had a grasp of the real problems of Nigeria but were rigged out. My advice to you go for Canada. You get your PR after a few years and citizen after 3 years. It offers you endless opportunities. You can still find an IT job that allows you work remotely that way you can travel to Nigeria or anywhere in the world and work from there assuming you no longer like Canada…most importantly secure your future. Nigeria doesn’t offer you anything including job security and no labor laws . The way the economy is now heading to $2,000 a dollar that 500k will now become less than 250k …there is no future today in Nigeria and if you miss this opportunity it will become harder for you to leave because the country is getting worse by day..Good luck 🍀

Thanks for your mature, very thoughtful advice. Serious food for thought. My intention was never to stay permanently in Nigeria. The only question is now or later. I also intentionally left out that the salary quickly goes to N1.5M.
Also what do you think of these screenshots above - people moving back from Canada

micxwell:
Many are always leaving out the expenditure; Which is crazy right now?

I think it could be more than expenditure. There's something about Canada that sours people already there, per these posts below

CloudTrees:
Forget that adage about that stupid brid o.
Canada all the way

The stupid bird is what my folks in Canada are advising me to consider, bearing in mind I only have TRV

micxwell:
Are you sure you earn one million naira a month?

No mind am. He earns N1m and he can't feed a family of 3!

ceejayluv:
Although,I later learnt that it's a visitor Visa you have. In that case you might wanna postpone the permanent relocation. Since you got plugs for tech jobs, you can visit to try to leverage on that for a skilled worker sponsorship. Take the 500k job and fund your trips.

Thanks but I'm seriously leaning towards using this ticket NOW!

NuCypher:
Guy, you don't have a work visa. What you have is a visit visa. Stay your a.ss in Nigeria and visit when you are on vacation from your 500k job.

Easy for you to say. You don't already have a ticket and head full of Cana dreams and white women

kunle75:
No dilemma just go to Canada and thank me later, I was in your shoes in 2017 and now my have GC and something better than what was offered back then.
Please make the move you won't regret bro

I'll definitely make the move unless...
Questiin is, now or later. Those in Naija are advising now, those in Canada later. Me, my head is already full of Cana!

AllDModsAreMaad:
It seems your visa is a visiting one, if yes.

Take the job and make more money, I believe the job will come with periodical leave, right?

Use the leave to go explore things in Canada, come back and continue your job while still making your plans, in 1 year or two or three years, you should be able to make enough money to get you PR, and also enough experience to get that top job you seek in Canada.

But if your visa is a PR (working etc), the only option should be continuing with your trip.

I have multiple entry visitor visa and your advice is about same as those already there. But I already have my ticket and Canda ideas. That's the bleeping dilemma!

Eriokanmi:
Settle with the job, if your story is real. Open your ticket. Its valid for one year. Jettison Canada for now and use it next year on vacation, If your visa is up to 2 years minimum

This is not "story". This is my life!
All good and well but please understand I already have my ticket. The TRV is ten years or passport expiration date whichever comes first

Princewell2012:
I have already said that, he should not allow anyone to deceive him, Nigeria is not getting any better soon. That Job is a just distraction

My heart is already in Canada. Problem is THOSE THERE! They say not yet, do this and get that first, never mind I already have my ticket!

sulakishop:
Between two evils, I will try the one that I have not tried before...

I stand with Japa

Definitely. The question is now or later

purehustle101:
If you already have money to sustain yourself in Canada travel if not stay put and work because sapa will finish you up in Canada. Assumption reads to depression in abroad because you will be disappointed by the people you think will help you. You dont pick money on trees abroad. Be wise

Honestly, I know you make a lot of sense. I don't have much money and I HATE cold. But I want to TRAVEL - now!

Buzx:
You'll go through hell, bro. That "hustle" is probably cash jobs. You can't keep up with that. Take the job offer in Nigeria, while you plan towards getting a proper visa.

Thanks bro. I know that's the rational thing to do. But the heart part of me wants Canada and wants it NOW

IamMobisola:
It’s easy!!

Since your visa is multiple try skid for 10years, it means you can travel anytime right?

Take this 500k job and work, you can take a leave from work once a year and visit Canada for holidays, use that period in Canada to look for jobs in-between. Once you get a job over there, the rest is history

You make serious sense.. But my head is already full of Canada and I already have my tickets

CaptainFM1:
Having money is everything. Having a visa is absolutely nothing. It's only in Nigerians head that visa equates to gold.

Having said that, anywhere you can get money and even more money is where you should go. Also have it in mind that travelling out doesn't mean you will make the money.

The call is just yours to take. But yes, go anywhere your money is. Even if it's Nnewi or Accra!

You know, I totally agree with you - Money. But I also love travel and hate cold

Odidigboigbo:
OP this is the best advice for you. Even when they allow you to go, they can still permit you to work remotely (From Canada) since you are good. Except you don't trust yourself, you can decide otherwise.

The only flaw in this is, my feet are really itching. You don't know what it's like when you already have the ticket and head saturated with ideas

SIRTee15:
500k salary is too low to come with all these benefits.

It's actually going to about 1,5m after a while. Didn't mention that a reason

chaiks:
Go to Canada. That is the best option. You have a tech skill which is highly needed in Canada already. 500k is nothing and the stability of that job in Nigeria is not guaranteed. In Canada, even if you don't have a job already, you will do certification and land a good tech job while doing some menial jobs to sustain yourself for a start(assuming you don't have job already in Canada). Most importantly, as years goes by, you get PR and eventual citizenship. What is more than that?

Problem is, my folks in Canada advise delay unless I want to "struggle", "hustle", "suffer". Me, I want to go now, but I don't want to struggle and I hate cold. But I want to travel with these tickets

gammarays:
Let me give you an advice

Stay back in Nigeria for 6 months to 1 year. This period will help you accumulate relevant job experience with your present employer. Use the opportunity to look for a related job in Canada which you can apply for.

Make sure you get a job offer first before relocating properly so it'll be easier for you to settle down. No use visit Visa get hope.

Prepare yourself well before relocating.

Thanks. Almost same advice from my folks there. But I have PLANE TICKET and I have itchy feet and ideas. Not sure they grasp that

justmondris:
500k is actually a small amount if you are a programmer in Nigerian with to 3 years experience . If it's a remote job take the job, relocate to Canada and be working for them remotely while looking for a better job in Canada. If you get a tech job in Canada, you can easily earn 2000 to 3000USD after tax monthly.

You need to look at the bigger picture and make this Canada move for the sake of your future and the future of your children. You can even relocate from Canada to US few years later.

In all you do, don't allow the fear of the unknown be the reason behind your decision. Good luck

Thanks for your sincere advice. I'm not into programming. Thing is, I want to leave NOW, and those there are advising against it. I already have my tickets and ideas, that's one thing they don't understand

Joseph90452:
Visiting visa??lol
Welcome to Nairaland

Lol all you want. I know what it took for me to get that TRV

kayceelawrence:
My one Kobo advice is very simple... Postpone ur trip to Canada by 6months .... During that six months u can work with this company here in Nigeria. Learn from them n evaluate if it's worth staying back for... 500k plus housing car and health is very nice ooo. Things are not as green on the other side. If after six months u feel Canada is better then u can relocate since ur visa is ten years ... For the main time what part of tech did u study

Good sensible advice, I know. Thing is, my feet are seriously itching. You don't know what it's like when you already have your tickets and dreams and ideas in your head

MT:
You wholly reflect NAIVETY

That's also part of my dream to be honest. How is it naive?

FrancisDiote:
If You have a skill then You can proceed to Canadá else take this job.

Those their advise I get PR first - not sure how sincere the advice though

atiku4President:
What's 500k? Think about the value of your life here. The nepotism, the celebrity of mediocrity, the toxicity of work place that can be a springboard for mental health issues

500K is something here o. I'd have a driver and a cook, I'll be a big shot. In Canada... well, in Canada who knows, I can also hit a jackpot despite their cautions

tioyoung:
No job security In Jobs inside Nigeria
Especially if its a private establishment.
Lemme rest assure u that
Ur services in that tech firm will not exceed 5years
After which u might be sacked.
Or asked to move on cause economy ain't friendly.
So I will suggest u travel ooo
500k u earn in a month while in Nigeria
U will make *4 of that while in Canada.
So bro use ur head.
Travel abroad double ur hustle
Make some cool millions then come back home and invest

Oh, even 2 years is more than enough for me. The thing, I already have my ticket and I want to travel NOW, which those there advise agsinst

fxexperts:
Baba don't follow this advice. use your tongue to count your teeth. N500K is just $500 for a whole month. something your can earn in less than 3 days there in Canada doing menial jobs. I currently earn far above that amount here in Nigeria. i trust me i have been leaving from hand to mouth. N1M is not enough to take care of a family with 3 kids in this present Nigeria. and trust me it will only get worse. Am Japa to Canada anytime soon.

My calculations also. Problem is, those already in Canada don't see it that way. I don't know what they see that sour them - maybe too much debt or racism or cold or they're just not being honest

MT:
I see that you keep hammering on the bolded. You only have a 10 year multiple VISITOR's visa. Canada recently announced you could get an LMIA job permit with it. This will end in 2025.

LMIA is not easy to get and they are mostly lowly paid job. Tech won't be part of LMIA as you such resource can easily be got from Canadians and PR holder.

You cant be using visitors visa like you are a PR holder. You can be leaving Canada every six months and reenter again. The immigration won't let you in again at some points.

Think carefully on your next move so as not to ruin everything.

Thanks a lot. I know what I SHOULD do. Problem is I already have my ticket and my feet are really itchy and my head saturated with certain dreams. So it is really a dilemma my brother