Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 9:12am On Apr 16, 2022 |
Image123:
Where do you get this thinking from? Definitely not from the Bible. i am glad when they say, let's go to the house of the Lord. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 9:32am On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
LoLz, yet you said you avoid church because wherever people are there is evil. You are contradicting yourself here ....! See your evil self! I clearly said LordReed:
Ok but I don't know where you stand except that you are a Christian. What church do you attend?
Dtruthspeaker None!....
...So, there you have it. I don't go to any church nor associate with any group of people.
Psalm 1 is my Law of Association and ^ Bible, my Pastor! No talk of "wherever people are there is evil." there at all. BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL, THE EVIL OF LYING AND TWISTING OUT OF TRUTH. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 11:02am On Apr 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:
See your evil self! I clearly said
No talk of "wherever people are there is evil." there at all. BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL, THE EVIL OF LYING AND TWISTING OUT OF TRUTH. This was what you said: Dtruthspeaker:
Not True! It is wicked people I hate! And everything we meet in this world is handled and managed by people, whether family house, school, work place, resident association, church, government etc all are managed by people. And people are wicked, very wicked, very very wicked, evil, in that order.
So, I never cared what name a certain activity has, but as long it has people in it, wickedness and evil is there. You said it plainly so I dunno why you are now backtracking. LoLz. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:34pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:
You own me an explanation for mentioning me first.
And asking questions instead of talking about how you saw atheists at the gates/gate of your imaginary Hellfire!
So you own me Sir! Max max. If I open a thread for us to discuss our differences openly will you come? |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:38pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
oaroloye: MISHIGAS!
ONLY THE LAW OF MOSES IS BINDING ON MANKIND- THEREFORE, WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JOKING IS UNDER ADVISEMENT, AT BEST.
. PROVERBS 26:18-19.
18. As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death, 19. So is the man that deceiveth his Neighbour, and saith,
"AM NOT I IN SPORT?"
. ECCLESIASTICUS 8:4-6.
4. Jest not with a rude man, lest thy Ancestors be disgraced. 5. Reproach not a man that turneth from Sin, but remember that we are all worthy of Punishment. 6. Dishonour not a man in his old age: for even some of us wax old.
. EPHESIANS 5:3-4.
3. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh Saints; 4. Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
IT IS INSULTING TO SAY THAT YOU DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY MY POST, AFTER I TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE IT TO YOU.
. LUKE 12:35-48.
35. "Let (your) loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36. "And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37. "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I Say unto you,
'THAT HE SHALL GIRD HIMSELF, AND MAKE THEM SIT DOWN TO MEAT, AND WILL COME FORTH AND SERVE THEM.'
38. "And if he shall come in the Second Watch, or come in the Third Watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39. "And this know,
'THAT IF THE GOODMAN OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN WHAT HOUR THE THIEF WOULD COME HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED, AND NOT SUFFERED HIS HOUSE TO BE BROKEN THROUGH.'
40. "Be ye therefore ready also: for The Son of Man cometh at an hour when ye think not."
41. Then Peter said unto him,
"Lord, Speakest thou this Parable unto us, or even to all?"
42. And the Lord Said,
"Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43. "Blessed is that Servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44. Of a Truth I Say unto you,
'THAT HE WILL MAKE HIM RULER OVER ALL THAT HE HATH.'
45. "But and if that servant say in his heart
,'MY LORD DELAYETH HIS COMING;'
and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46. "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47. "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48. "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."
UNBELIEVERS DO NOT USUALLY GO TO HELL WHEN THEY DIE- BECAUSE THEIR SOULS ARE SUMMARILY DESTROYED WHEN THEIR PHYSICAL BODIES DIE.
. LUKE 16:19-31.
19. There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the Angels into Abraham's Bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23. And in Hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24. And he cried and said,
"Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame."
25. But Abraham said,
"Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy Good Things, and likewise Lazarus Evil Things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."
27. Then he said,
"I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28. "For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment."
29. Abraham saith unto him,
"They have Moses and The Prophets; let them hear them."
30. And he said,
"Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the Dead, they will repent."
31. And he said unto him,
"If they hear not Moses and The Prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the Dead."
LORD YESHUA NEVER SAID THAT THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS WERE A PARABLE.
Lord Yeshua never said anything that was not literally true- whether in a Parable or otherwise.
For instance, he is never recorded as saying, "There was a Pig who flew...," or, "There was a Cow that jumped over the Moon...." His Parables were all based on things that happen in everyday life.
LORD YESHUA IS THE PRIMARY AUTHORITY FOR CHRISTIANS- THE ONLY WAY FOR CHRISTIANS TO GET F(*Bleep!*)D UP, IS TO MAKE SOMEONE ELSE PRIMARY AUTHORITY.
"AVRAHAM'S BOSOM" did not mean the literal bosom of Avraham, but a PLACE where the RIGHTEOUS SOULS THAT SURVIVE DEATH can go to.
That is what THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA JUDICAEA says. The Jews are descendants of 9th Century converts to Yudahism, from a country called KHAZARIA- which is now called UKRAINE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulan_(Khazar)
ALL THE OYINBOS, AND ARABS KNOW THIS AT LEADERSHIP LEVEL.
AVRAHAM AND HIS DESCENDANTS WERE ALL BLACKS- INCLUDING LORD YESHUA, CANAANITES, AND KEMETIANS.
King Bulan, who adopted Yudahism to unite his kingdom, consulted representatives of Yudahism, Christianity, and Islam, to determine which Religion was best for that purpose.
All those Power Blocs have been aware that THE JEWS WERE NEVER HEBREWS the whole time.
Giving them PALESTINE, as if it were their ancestral home, IS A CHARADE. It was not until the 15th Century that the Oyinbos began claiming that the Hebrews and Lord Yeshua were Whites, like them.
Sunburn has been literally killing the Jews in Israel. (That is not a joke: IT IS LITERALLY KILLING THEM!) That is because that is not their ancestral homeland!
"HELL" is a place where the Souls of the Evil dead who survive the death of their bodies are RESTRAINED IN FIRE.
If they were allowed to roam free, they could do stupedous damage- from killing and destroying to harvest Spiritual Energy, to seizing the bodies of the Newborn, to steal another life.
AVRAHAM'S BOSOM is the PARADISE that Lord Yeshua and the Thief on the Other Cross went to together, after they died.
When Lord Yeshua Resurrected from the Dead, many Saints Resurrected with him.
They either went back to Avraham's Bosom, or Ascended to Heaven too.
HELL IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD YEAR ONE COVENANT TRAINING- [i]BUT STILL TURNED FROM THE WAY OF GOD, AND BETRAYED THE KINGDOM OF FIRST HEAVEN.
. MATTHEW 5:1-26.
AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him: 2. And he opened his mouth, and Taught them, Saying,
3. "Blessed (are) the Poor in spirit: for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven. 4. "Blessed (are) they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5. "Blessed (are) the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth. 6. "Blessed (are) they which do hunger and thirst after Righteousness: for they shall be filled. 7. "Blessed (are) the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8. "Blessed (are) the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9. "Blessed (are) the Peacemakers: for they shall be called
'THE CHILDREN OF GOD.'
10. "Blessed (are) they which are persecuted for Righteousness' sake: for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven. 11. "Blessed (are) ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for Great is your Reward in Heaven: for so persecuted they the Prophets which were before you. 13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. 14. "Ye are The Light of the World. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15. "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16. “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your Good Works, and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven. 17. "Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or The Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18. "For verily I Say unto you,
'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'
19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called The Least in The Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called Great in The Kingdom of Heaven. 20. "For I Say unto you,
'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL EXCEED (THE RIGHTEOUSNESS) OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'
21. "Ye have heard that it was said of them of Old Time,
'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'
and
'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT:'
22. "But I Say unto you,
'THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT:'
and whosoever shall say to his Brother,
'RACA,'
shall be in danger of the Council: but whosoever shall say,
'THOU FOOL,'
shall be in danger of Hell Fire. 23. "Therefore if thou bring thy Gift to the Altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24. "Leave there thy Gift before the Altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy Gift. 25. "Agree with thine Adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the Adversary deliver thee to the Judge, and the Judge deliver thee to the Officer, and thou be cast into Prison. 26. "Verily I Say unto thee,
'THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS COME OUT THENCE, TILL THOU HAST PAID THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' "
THERE ARE SEVEN HEAVENS: TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS, ENTER, AND OPERATE IN THEM, ONE MUST HAVE THE SPIRITUAL POWER LEVEL NECESSARY TO DO SO.
This requires the Knowledge and Obedience of The Laws of Heaven.
. JOSHUA 1:8.
8. "This Book of The Law shall not depart out of thy mouth but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have Good Success."
. PSALM 1:1-6.
BLESSED is the man that walketh not in The Counsel of the Ungodly, nor standeth in the Way of Sinners, nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful. 2. But his delight is in The Law of The LORD; and in His Law doth he meditate day and night. 3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4. The Ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5.Therefore the Ungodly shall not stand in The Judgment, nor Sinners in The Congregation of The Righteous. 6. For The LORD knoweth The Way of the Righteous: but the Way of the Ungodly shall Perish.
. PSALM 119:97-105.
97. O how I love Thy Law! It is my meditation all the day. 98. Thou through Thy Commandments hast made me Wiser than mine enemies: for They are ever with me. 99 I have more Understanding than all my teachers: for Thy Testimonies are my meditation. 100. I understand more than the Ancients, because I keep Thy Precepts. 101. I have refrained my feet from every Evil Way, that I might keep Thy Word. 102. I have not departed from Thy Judgments: for Thou hast taught me. 103. How sweet are Thy Words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! 104. Through Thy Precepts I get Understanding: therefore I hate every False Way. 105. Thy Word is a Lamp unto my feet, and a Light unto my path.
. JOB 28:28.
28. "And unto Man He Said,
'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD, THAT IS WISDOM; AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL, IS UNDERSTANDING.' "
. JOB 39:13-18.
13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich? 14. "Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust, 15. "And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them. 16. "She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear; 17. "Because God hath deprived her of Wisdom, neither hath He imparted to her Understanding. 18." What time she lifteth up herself on high, she scorneth the horse and his rider."
. PSALM 111:10.
10. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Wisdom: a Good Understanding have all they that do His Commandments: His Praise endureth for ever.
. PROVERBS 1:7.
7. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Knowledge: but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction.
. PROVERBS 9:10.
10. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Wisdom: and The Knowledge of The Holy is Understanding.
. ISAIAH 55:6-11.
6. Seek ye The LORD, while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near. 7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way, and the Unrighteous Man his Thoughts: and let him return unto The LORD, and He will have Mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS (ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS MY WAYS," saith The LORD. 9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'
10. "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from Heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the Sower, and bread to the Eater: 11. "So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but It shall accomplish that which I please, and It shall prosper (in the thing) whereto I sent It."
. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.
9. "For The Eyes of The LORD run to and fro throughout the whole Earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is perfect toward Him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.”
. AMOS 3:3. 3. Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
. ZECHARIAH 4:10.
10. For who hath despised The Day of Small Things? For they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are The Eyes of The LORD, Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.
IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS OF DILIGENT STUDY AND HANDS-ON EXERCISE FOR A RIGHTEOUS PERSON TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD- THERE IS NO WAY TO ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS.
It was the DUTY of your PARENTS to teach you This Way, growing up, between ages 13 through 20.
. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.
NOW these are the Commandments, the Statutes, and the Judgments, Which The LORD your God Commanded to teach you, that ye might do Them in the land whither ye go to possess it: 2. That thou mightest fear The LORD thy God, to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments, Which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. 3. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do It; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy Might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this Day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy Children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
. 2nd PETER 1:5-9.
5. And besides this, giving all diligence, add to your Faith Virtue, and to Virtue Knowledge, 6. And to Knowledge Temperance, and to Temperance Patience, and to Patience Godliness, 7. And to Godliness Brotherly Kindness, and to Brotherly Kindness Charity. 8. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in The Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old Sins.
OBEDIENCE OF AND MEDITATION ON THE WORDS OF GOD ARE NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT: WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND IT, YOU HAVE THE SPIRITUAL POWER OF THE HEAVEN THAT WORD OF GOD COMES FROM.
This is all necessary Knowledge. Lol.... Guy you are weird indeed... I only asked you to summarize your points and you wrote me another epistle which i still didn't read completely.. Anyways.. as for your claim regarding people ceasing to exist there are no scriptures that support that stance. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:44pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
[quote author=LordReed post=111956447
Tell me one thing I have twisted about the bible.[/quote]
I wouldn't say that you have twisted, but i'll say that you have misunderstood.. You have failed to see things for the way they are.
Take the doctrine of hell and heaven for example. The Bible teaches that God is not responsible for any soul in hell. In fact, if it were up to God there wouldn't be a single descendant of Adam there. But it isn't up to God, it is up to us. He has given everyone the right to choose and some choose hell while some choose heaven.
I gather from our previous discussions, you have failed to see things this way. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:46pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
cornelboy:
Is there a good place in hell or which hell did Jesus go? And what part of him went there?
His spirit went there. Read Peter's epistle, man.. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:46pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
cornelboy:
Revelation 20:14 [14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
So hell and death is something that could burn in a literal fire? How's that gonna happen? It's what the Bible says, man |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:47pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Workch: There's no evidence for spiritual. Show me if you have any There is no evidence for evolution. Show me if you have any. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:48pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Maynman:
Parable right? Just cause it is a parable doesn't mean it isn't to be taken literally. A parable is simply a story told to teach a truth. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:48pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Maynman:
What purpose did he go to prison for? If only you'd read peter's epistle, bro |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Maynman: 12:49pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
Just cause it is a parable doesn't mean it isn't to be taken literally. A parable is simply a story told to teach a truth. So how do you take a story literally? |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:49pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Maynman:
Just mention one book that refers to it and the verse. It's all over the Gospels and Peter talks about it in his epistle, Jude also talks about it |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Maynman: 12:50pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
It's all over the Gospels and Peter talks about it in his epistle, Jude also talks about it Then just give me one from the “all over” except parables. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Maynman: 12:51pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
If only you'd read peter's epistle, bro You can’t state it? You are not sure bro. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:51pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Maynman:
So how do you take a story literally? The story of the good samaritan, for example was told to teach us to show people kindness if we are in a position to do so. The story of the rich man and lazarus was told to teach us that when a person dies, they go to either one of two places, heaven or hell. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Maynman: 12:53pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
The story of the good samaritan, for example was told to teach us to show people kindness if we are in a position to do so.
The story of the rich man and lazarus was told to teach us that when a person dies, they go to either one of two places, heaven or hell. Told to teach you and give an idea not to be taken literally, the story of spreading seeds on a stone and so on, give you an idea not to be taken word for word. That’s why it’s called parables. When Jesus died and came back did they call it parable? Darn |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:00pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Maynman:
Told to teach you and give an idea not to be taken literally, the story of spreading seeds on a stone and so on, give you an idea not to be taken word for word. That’s why it’s called parables. When Jesus died and came back did they call it parable? Darn When he talks about a priest and a levite and an armed robber in his parable was He being metaphorical? Besides I have many scriptures that teach that man is indeed a spirit that lives in body. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Maynman: 1:02pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
When he talks about a priest and a levite and an armed robber in his parable was He being metaphorical? Besides I have many scriptures that teach that man is indeed a spirit that lives in body. Yes it is a parable, even your fellow Christians will be disappointed in you. Don’t take it literally, word for word.. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 1:14pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: I wouldn't say that you have twisted, but i'll say that you have misunderstood.. You have failed to see things for the way they are.
Take the doctrine of hell and heaven for example. The Bible teaches that God is not responsible for any soul in hell. In fact, if it were up to God there wouldn't be a single descendant of Adam there. But it isn't up to God, it is up to us. He has given everyone the right to choose and some choose hell while some choose heaven.
I gather from our previous discussions, you have failed to see things this way. I gave 6 reasons why I think hell doesn't make sense which of them indicated I diidn't understand this point? And by the way your point is another reason hell doesn't make sense, just so you know. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 3:36pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
This was what you said You said it plainly so I dunno why you are now backtracking. LoLz. At a different time under a different circumstance as your proof clearly shows AND NOT WHEN AS YOU LIED THAT LordReed:
LoLz, yet you said you avoid church because wherever people are there is evil. You are contradicting yourself here ....! Which by my evidence of the relevant time, it was not there. You just must do an evil. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Image123(m): 4:54pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
Do Bible patriarchs believe other things apart from God? They all went to church, Jesus being number one in church. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 5:24pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:
At a different time under a different circumstance as your proof clearly shows AND NOT WHEN AS YOU LIED THAT
Which by my evidence of the relevant time, it was not there.
You just must do an evil. LoLz. Chai! Na wa, even MJ didn't do the moonwalk as heavily as you are backtracking now. Your response was right on this thread in regards to why you don't go to church. See again what you said here: Dtruthspeaker:
I never had this. When I was young I thought all churches were the same except for white garment church which disturbed my spirit, so I did not care which church I went.
I learnt many many things as I noticed many many things. How my neighbours seemed angry I came to their church (Catholic), why say they are Christians and yet they were wicked And when you challenge them that it is wicked and not good and that God says it is not good they got angrily berserk and even wickeder.
I thought it right to "do them back" but I noticed I suffered seriously when I revenged. I didn't know then that truly that "Do not revenge" statement that used to fly around was True!
So, I started studying the Bible for myself to see what else was True, which I have seen!
And, I long figured that the walk with God was very very personal. There is almost no collective walk with God. The oeople who I thought were good people, I saw that they secretly loved wickedness and took the opportunity to be wicked when it presented itself. The people who were wicked also confirmed that they loved being wicked and that it is a mistake to give them opportunity to do you wickedness.
And I did not want to be any of these people, hence my admiration for people in the Bible, since the living people I see fell short.
And that is what has safely and interestingly and wonderfully and beautiful and gloriously brought me this far.
AND THE BEST PART I LOVE IS THAT I HAVE BEATEN ALL OF THOSE AROUND ME IN ALL THINGS.
So you can see now why I said, it is impossible for me to leave God, FOR IT IS HE WHO MADE ME WHO I AM NOW, EVEN WHEN IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE!
So, disillusionment was no where near me for I saw people became what they wanted to be, as Dmx said
"We each walk the paths we have chosen"
I CHOSE THE WAY OF THE LORD AND IT IS EXACTLY AS IS WRITTEN!
Why are you denying your very own words? Bwahahahahaha! 1 Like |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 5:26pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Image123:
Do Bible patriarchs believe other things apart from God? They all went to church, Jesus being number one in church. Of course. You go to church because Paul said it was good to go to church, that wasn't from Jesus. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Image123(m): 5:45pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
Of course. You go to church because Paul said it was good to go to church, that wasn't from Jesus. Lol, number one, Paul's epistles are taken as God's Word. Jesus Christ did not take only His spoken words as God's word. Also, Hebrews which you likely refer to as Paul's saying is also part of the inspired scriptures. Number two, i didn't even refer to Hebrews or Paul but to the Psalms where i quoted that "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord." Seems you forgot the verse as you initially looked fazed. It has been the practice of the patriarchs even from the Old testament to be in church. Number three, Jesus Christ our perfect and personal example didn't miss church. Ever heard that He is with us where we are gathered? It seems your Bible knowledge is rusty, all these is basic. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 6:16pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Image123:
Lol, number one, Paul's epistles are taken as God's Word. Jesus Christ did not take only His spoken words as God's word. Also, Hebrews which you likely refer to as Paul's saying is also part of the inspired scriptures. Number two, i didn't even refer to Hebrews or Paul but to the Psalms where i quoted that "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord." Seems you forgot the verse as you initially looked fazed. It has been the practice of the patriarchs even from the Old testament to be in church. Number three, Jesus Christ our perfect and personal example didn't miss church. Ever heard that He is with us where we are gathered? It seems your Bible knowledge is rusty, all these is basic. Still that psalm was not Jesus saying it. Whatever the case that is something separate from your belief in god, Dtruthspeaker for example is evidence that you can strongly believe in the god and choose not to go to church. I on the other hand I am an atheist who goes to church. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 7:16pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
LoLz. Chai! Na wa, even MJ didn't do the moonwalk as heavily as you are backtracking now. Your response was right on this thread in regards to why you don't go to church.
See again what you said here:
Why are you denying your very own words? Bwahahahahaha! And the evidence you have just supplied has only proven my case as I told you earlier "DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE"! BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL THING! |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 7:28pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:
And the evidence you have just supplied has only proven my case as I told you earlier "DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE"! BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL THING! Which different time or circumstance when its still in the same thread about the same issue? LoLz. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by Image123(m): 8:05pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
LordReed:
Still that psalm was not Jesus saying it. Whatever the case that is something separate from your belief in god, Dtruthspeaker for example is evidence that you can strongly believe in the god and choose not to go to church. I on the other hand I am an atheist who goes to church. Lol, Jesus Christ chose to go to church. i follow Him. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by LordReed(m): 8:14pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Image123:
Lol, Jesus Christ chose to go to church. i follow Him. Ok. |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by cornelboy(f): 9:12pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
It's what the Bible says, man Think think think. Lake of fire represent eternal destruction. That's hell/grave and death will be no more. They won't exist again. Likewise Satan, his angels, false prophet and wicked people will be destroyed eternally, eternal death. They won't keep living in hell fire. Lake of fire and Gehenna illustrates the same thing, eternal destruction/death. Gehenna was (mis)translated to hell. Also Hadēs which means the grave was translated to hell. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: When An Atheist Dies And Is About To Enter Hell by cornelboy(f): 9:13pm On Apr 16, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece:
His spirit went there. Read Peter's epistle, man.. If Jesus spirit or soul went there, does that mean hell is a bad place? 1 Like 1 Share |