Image123:


Where do you get this thinking from? Definitely not from the Bible. i am glad when they say, let's go to the house of the Lord.

LordReed:

LoLz, yet you said you avoid church because wherever people are there is evil. You are contradicting yourself here ....!

See your evil self! I clearly said

LordReed:

Ok but I don't know where you stand except that you are a Christian. What church do you attend?

Dtruthspeaker
None!....

...So, there you have it. I don't go to any church nor associate with any group of people.

Psalm 1 is my Law of Association and ^ Bible, my Pastor!

No talk of "wherever people are there is evil." there at all. BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL, THE EVIL OF LYING AND TWISTING OUT OF TRUTH.

Dtruthspeaker:


See your evil self! I clearly said



No talk of "wherever people are there is evil." there at all. BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL, THE EVIL OF LYING AND TWISTING OUT OF TRUTH.

This was what you said:

Dtruthspeaker:


Not True!
It is wicked people I hate! And everything we meet in this world is handled and managed by people, whether family house, school, work place, resident association, church, government etc all are managed by people. And people are wicked, very wicked, very very wicked, evil, in that order.

So, I never cared what name a certain activity has, but as long it has people in it, wickedness and evil is there.

You said it plainly so I dunno why you are now backtracking. LoLz.

MaxInDHouse:

You own me an explanation for mentioning me first.



And asking questions instead of talking about how you saw atheists at the gates/gate of your imaginary Hellfire!



So you own me Sir!

Max max. If I open a thread for us to discuss our differences openly will you come?

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



ONLY THE LAW OF MOSES IS BINDING ON MANKIND- THEREFORE, WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JOKING IS UNDER ADVISEMENT, AT BEST.

. PROVERBS 26:18-19.

18. As a mad man
who casteth firebrands,
arrows, and death,
19. So is the man
that deceiveth his Neighbour,
and saith,

"AM NOT I IN SPORT?"

. ECCLESIASTICUS 8:4-6.

4. Jest not with a rude man,
lest thy Ancestors be disgraced.
5. Reproach not a man
that turneth from Sin,
but remember that
we are all worthy of Punishment.
6. Dishonour not a man
in his old age:
for even some of us wax old.

. EPHESIANS 5:3-4.

3. But fornication,
and all uncleanness,
or covetousness,
let it not be once
named among you,
as becometh Saints;
4. Neither filthiness,
nor foolish talking,
nor jesting,
which are not convenient:
but rather giving of thanks.



IT IS INSULTING TO SAY THAT YOU DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY MY POST, AFTER I TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE IT TO YOU.

. LUKE 12:35-48.

35. "Let (your) loins
be girded about,
and your lights burning;
36. "And ye yourselves
like unto men
that wait for their lord,
when he will return
from the wedding;
that when he cometh
and knocketh,
they may open unto him
immediately.
37. "Blessed are
those servants,
whom the lord
when he cometh
shall find watching:
verily I Say unto you,

'THAT HE SHALL
GIRD HIMSELF,
AND MAKE THEM
SIT DOWN TO MEAT,
AND WILL COME FORTH
AND SERVE THEM.'

38. "And if he shall come
in the Second Watch,
or come in the Third Watch,
and find them so,
blessed are those servants.
39. "And this know,

'THAT IF THE GOODMAN
OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN
WHAT HOUR
THE THIEF WOULD COME
HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED,
AND NOT SUFFERED
HIS HOUSE TO BE
BROKEN THROUGH.'

40. "Be ye therefore ready also:
for The Son of Man cometh
at an hour when ye think not."

41. Then Peter said unto him,

"Lord, Speakest thou this Parable
unto us,
or even to all?"

42. And the Lord Said,

"Who then is that faithful
and wise steward,
whom his lord
shall make ruler
over his household,
to give them
their portion of meat
in due season?
43. "Blessed is that Servant,
whom his lord when he cometh
shall find so doing.
44. Of a Truth I Say unto you,

'THAT HE WILL
MAKE HIM RULER
OVER ALL
THAT HE HATH.'

45. "But and if that servant
say in his heart

,'MY LORD DELAYETH
HIS COMING;'

and shall begin to beat
the menservants and maidens,
and to eat and drink,
and to be drunken;
46. "The lord of that servant
will come in a day
when he looketh not for him,
and at an hour
when he is not aware,
and will cut him in sunder,
and will appoint him
his portion
with the unbelievers.
47. "And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did
according to his will,
shall be beaten
with many stripes.
48. "But he that knew not,
and did commit things
worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten
with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever
much is given,
of him shall be
much required:
and to whom men
have committed much,
of him they will
ask the more."

UNBELIEVERS DO NOT USUALLY GO TO HELL WHEN THEY DIE- BECAUSE THEIR SOULS ARE SUMMARILY DESTROYED WHEN THEIR PHYSICAL BODIES DIE.



. LUKE 16:19-31.

19. There was
a certain rich man,
which was clothed
in purple and fine linen,
and fared sumptuously
every day:
20. And there was
a certain beggar
named Lazarus,
which was laid at his gate,
full of sores,
21. And desiring to be fed
with the crumbs
which fell from
the rich man's table:
moreover the dogs came
and licked his sores.
22. And it came to pass,
that the beggar died,
and was carried
by the Angels into
Abraham's Bosom:
the rich man also died,
and was buried;
23. And in Hell
he lift up his eyes,
being in torments,
and seeth Abraham
afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom.
24. And he cried and said,

"Father Abraham,
have mercy on me,
and send Lazarus,
that he may dip
the tip of his finger in water,
and cool my tongue;
for I am tormented
in this flame."

25. But Abraham said,

"Son, remember
that thou in thy lifetime
receivedst thy Good Things,
and likewise Lazarus
Evil Things:
but now he is comforted,
and thou art tormented.
26. And beside all this,
between us and you
there is a great gulf fixed:
so that they which would
pass from hence
to you cannot;
neither can they pass to us,
that would come from thence."

27. Then he said,

"I pray thee therefore, father,
that thou wouldest send him
to my father's house:
28. "For I have five brethren;
that he may testify unto them,
lest they also come into
this place of torment."

29. Abraham saith unto him,

"They have Moses
and The Prophets;
let them hear them."

30. And he said,

"Nay, father Abraham:
but if one went unto them
from the Dead,
they will repent."

31. And he said unto him,

"If they hear not Moses
and The Prophets,
neither will they
be persuaded,
though one rose
from the Dead."

LORD YESHUA NEVER SAID THAT THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS WERE A PARABLE.

Lord Yeshua never said anything that was not literally true- whether in a Parable or otherwise.

For instance, he is never recorded as saying, "There was a Pig who flew...," or, "There was a Cow that jumped over the Moon...." His Parables were all based on things that happen in everyday life.

LORD YESHUA IS THE PRIMARY AUTHORITY FOR CHRISTIANS- THE ONLY WAY FOR CHRISTIANS TO GET F(*Bleep!*)D UP, IS TO MAKE SOMEONE ELSE PRIMARY AUTHORITY.

"AVRAHAM'S BOSOM" did not mean the literal bosom of Avraham, but a PLACE where the RIGHTEOUS SOULS THAT SURVIVE DEATH can go to.

That is what THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA JUDICAEA says. The Jews are descendants of 9^th Century converts to Yudahism, from a country called KHAZARIA- which is now called UKRAINE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulan_(Khazar)

ALL THE OYINBOS, AND ARABS KNOW THIS AT LEADERSHIP LEVEL.

AVRAHAM AND HIS DESCENDANTS WERE ALL BLACKS- INCLUDING LORD YESHUA, CANAANITES, AND KEMETIANS.

King Bulan, who adopted Yudahism to unite his kingdom, consulted representatives of Yudahism, Christianity, and Islam, to determine which Religion was best for that purpose.

All those Power Blocs have been aware that THE JEWS WERE NEVER HEBREWS the whole time.

Giving them PALESTINE, as if it were their ancestral home, IS A CHARADE. It was not until the 15^th Century that the Oyinbos began claiming that the Hebrews and Lord Yeshua were Whites, like them.

Sunburn has been literally killing the Jews in Israel. (That is not a joke: IT IS LITERALLY KILLING THEM!) That is because that is not their ancestral homeland!

"HELL" is a place where the Souls of the Evil dead who survive the death of their bodies are RESTRAINED IN FIRE.

If they were allowed to roam free, they could do stupedous damage- from killing and destroying to harvest Spiritual Energy, to seizing the bodies of the Newborn, to steal another life.

AVRAHAM'S BOSOM is the PARADISE that Lord Yeshua and the Thief on the Other Cross went to together, after they died.

When Lord Yeshua Resurrected from the Dead, many Saints Resurrected with him.

They either went back to Avraham's Bosom, or Ascended to Heaven too.


HELL IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD YEAR ONE COVENANT TRAINING- [i]BUT STILL TURNED FROM THE WAY OF GOD, AND BETRAYED THE KINGDOM OF FIRST HEAVEN.

.    MATTHEW 5:1-26.

AND seeing the multitudes,
he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set,
his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth,
and Taught them,
Saying,

3. "Blessed (are) the Poor in spirit:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed (are) they that mourn:
for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed (are) the meek:
for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. "Blessed (are) they which do
hunger and thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed (are) the merciful:
for they shall obtain mercy.
8. "Blessed (are) the pure in heart:
for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed (are) the Peacemakers:
for they shall be called

'THE CHILDREN OF GOD.'

10. "Blessed (are) they which are persecuted
for Righteousness' sake:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed (are) ye,
when men shall revile you,
and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil
against you falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice,
and be exceeding glad:
for Great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
it is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are The Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill
cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light
unto all that are in the house.
16. “Let your light
so shine before men,
that they may see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
 to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
 I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I Say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE
 PASS FROM THE LAW,
 TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'

19. "Whosoever therefore
shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called The Least
in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I Say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT
YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED
(THE RIGHTEOUSNESS)
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'

21. "Ye have heard
that it was said of them
of Old Time,

'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'

and

'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:'

22. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY
WITH HIS BROTHER
WITHOUT A CAUSE
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:'

and whosoever shall say
to his Brother,

'RACA,'

shall be in danger of the Council:
but whosoever shall say,

'THOU FOOL,'

shall be in danger of Hell Fire.
23. "Therefore if thou
bring thy Gift to the Altar,
and there rememberest
that thy brother
hath ought against thee;
24. "Leave there thy Gift
before the Altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy brother,
and then come and offer thy Gift.
25. "Agree with thine Adversary quickly,
whiles thou art in the way with him;
lest at any time the Adversary
deliver thee to the Judge,
and the Judge deliver thee
to the Officer,
and thou be cast into Prison.
26. "Verily I Say unto thee,

'THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS
COME OUT THENCE,
TILL THOU HAST PAID
THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' "

THERE ARE SEVEN HEAVENS: TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS, ENTER, AND OPERATE IN THEM, ONE MUST HAVE THE SPIRITUAL POWER LEVEL NECESSARY TO DO SO.

This requires the Knowledge and Obedience of The Laws of Heaven.



. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser
than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99 I have more Understanding
than all my teachers:
for Thy Testimonies
are my meditation.
100. I understand
more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. Thy Word is a Lamp
unto my feet,
and a Light unto my path.




. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'

10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS OF DILIGENT STUDY AND HANDS-ON EXERCISE FOR A RIGHTEOUS PERSON TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD- THERE IS NO WAY TO ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS.

It was the DUTY of your PARENTS to teach you This Way, growing up, between ages 13 through 20.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are the Commandments,
the Statutes, and the Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do Them in the land
whither ye go to possess it:
2. That thou mightest fear
The LORD thy God,
to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments,
Which I command thee,
thou, and thy son, and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore, O Israel,
and observe to do It;
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may increase mightily,
as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently
unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.



.   2^nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And besides this,
giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue,
and to Virtue Knowledge,
6. And to Knowledge Temperance,
and to Temperance Patience,
and to Patience Godliness,
7. And to Godliness Brotherly Kindness,
and to Brotherly Kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you,
and abound,
they make you
that ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful
in The Knowledge
of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh
these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged
from his old Sins.

OBEDIENCE OF AND MEDITATION ON THE WORDS OF GOD ARE NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT: WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND IT, YOU HAVE THE SPIRITUAL POWER OF THE HEAVEN THAT WORD OF GOD COMES FROM.

This is all necessary Knowledge.

Lol.... Guy you are weird indeed... I only asked you to summarize your points and you wrote me another epistle which i still didn't read completely..

Anyways.. as for your claim regarding people ceasing to exist there are no scriptures that support that stance.

[quote author=LordReed post=111956447

Tell me one thing I have twisted about the bible.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that you have twisted, but i'll say that you have misunderstood.. You have failed to see things for the way they are.

Take the doctrine of hell and heaven for example. The Bible teaches that God is not responsible for any soul in hell. In fact, if it were up to God there wouldn't be a single descendant of Adam there. But it isn't up to God, it is up to us. He has given everyone the right to choose and some choose hell while some choose heaven.

I gather from our previous discussions, you have failed to see things this way.

cornelboy:


Is there a good place in hell or which hell did Jesus go? And what part of him went there?

His spirit went there. Read Peter's epistle, man..

cornelboy:

Revelation 20:14
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

So hell and death is something that could burn in a literal fire?
How's that gonna happen?

It's what the Bible says, man

Workch:
There's no evidence for spiritual.
Show me if you have any

There is no evidence for evolution. Show me if you have any.

Maynman:


Parable right?

Just cause it is a parable doesn't mean it isn't to be taken literally. A parable is simply a story told to teach a truth.

Maynman:


What purpose did he go to prison for?

If only you'd read peter's epistle, bro

Hismasterpiece:


Just cause it is a parable doesn't mean it isn't to be taken literally. A parable is simply a story told to teach a truth.

So how do you take a story literally?

Maynman:


Just mention one book that refers to it and the verse.

It's all over the Gospels and Peter talks about it in his epistle, Jude also talks about it

Hismasterpiece:


It's all over the Gospels and Peter talks about it in his epistle, Jude also talks about it

Then just give me one from the “all over” except parables.

Hismasterpiece:


If only you'd read peter's epistle, bro

You can’t state it?
You are not sure bro.

Maynman:


So how do you take a story literally?

The story of the good samaritan, for example was told to teach us to show people kindness if we are in a position to do so.

The story of the rich man and lazarus was told to teach us that when a person dies, they go to either one of two places, heaven or hell.

Hismasterpiece:


The story of the good samaritan, for example was told to teach us to show people kindness if we are in a position to do so.

The story of the rich man and lazarus was told to teach us that when a person dies, they go to either one of two places, heaven or hell.

Told to teach you and give an idea not to be taken literally, the story of spreading seeds on a stone and so on, give you an idea not to be taken word for word. That’s why it’s called parables. When Jesus died and came back did they call it parable?
Darn

Maynman:


Told to teach you and give an idea not to be taken literally, the story of spreading seeds on a stone and so on, give you an idea not to be taken word for word. That’s why it’s called parables. When Jesus died and came back did they call it parable?
Darn

When he talks about a priest and a levite and an armed robber in his parable was He being metaphorical? Besides I have many scriptures that teach that man is indeed a spirit that lives in body.

Hismasterpiece:


When he talks about a priest and a levite and an armed robber in his parable was He being metaphorical? Besides I have many scriptures that teach that man is indeed a spirit that lives in body.

Yes it is a parable, even your fellow Christians will be disappointed in you. Don’t take it literally, word for word..

Hismasterpiece:
I wouldn't say that you have twisted, but i'll say that you have misunderstood.. You have failed to see things for the way they are.

Take the doctrine of hell and heaven for example. The Bible teaches that God is not responsible for any soul in hell. In fact, if it were up to God there wouldn't be a single descendant of Adam there. But it isn't up to God, it is up to us. He has given everyone the right to choose and some choose hell while some choose heaven.

I gather from our previous discussions, you have failed to see things this way.

I gave 6 reasons why I think hell doesn't make sense which of them indicated I diidn't understand this point? And by the way your point is another reason hell doesn't make sense, just so you know.

LordReed:

This was what you said
You said it plainly so I dunno why you are now backtracking. LoLz.

At a different time under a different circumstance as your proof clearly shows AND NOT WHEN AS YOU LIED THAT

LordReed:

LoLz, yet you said you avoid church because wherever people are there is evil. You are contradicting yourself here ....!

Which by my evidence of the relevant time, it was not there.

You just must do an evil.

LordReed:

Do Bible patriarchs believe other things apart from God? They all went to church, Jesus being number one in church.

Dtruthspeaker:


At a different time under a different circumstance as your proof clearly shows AND NOT WHEN AS YOU LIED THAT



Which by my evidence of the relevant time, it was not there.

You just must do an evil.

LoLz. Chai! Na wa, even MJ didn't do the moonwalk as heavily as you are backtracking now. Your response was right on this thread in regards to why you don't go to church.

See again what you said here:

Dtruthspeaker:


I never had this. When I was young I thought all churches were the same except for white garment church which disturbed my spirit, so I did not care which church I went.

I learnt many many things as I noticed many many things. How my neighbours seemed angry I came to their church (Catholic), why say they are Christians and yet they were wicked And when you challenge them that it is wicked and not good and that God says it is not good they got angrily berserk and even wickeder.

I thought it right to "do them back" but I noticed I suffered seriously when I revenged. I didn't know then that truly that "Do not revenge" statement that used to fly around was True!

So, I started studying the Bible for myself to see what else was True, which I have seen!

And, I long figured that the walk with God was very very personal. There is almost no collective walk with God. The oeople who I thought were good people, I saw that they secretly loved wickedness and took the opportunity to be wicked when it presented itself.
The people who were wicked also confirmed that they loved being wicked and that it is a mistake to give them opportunity to do you wickedness.

And I did not want to be any of these people, hence my admiration for people in the Bible, since the living people I see fell short.

And that is what has safely and interestingly and wonderfully and beautiful and gloriously brought me this far.

AND THE BEST PART I LOVE IS THAT I HAVE BEATEN ALL OF THOSE AROUND ME IN ALL THINGS.

So you can see now why I said, it is impossible for me to leave God, FOR IT IS HE WHO MADE ME WHO I AM NOW, EVEN WHEN IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE!

So, disillusionment was no where near me for I saw people became what they wanted to be, as Dmx said

"We each walk the paths we have chosen"

I CHOSE THE WAY OF THE LORD AND IT IS EXACTLY AS IS WRITTEN!

Why are you denying your very own words? Bwahahahahaha!

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Do Bible patriarchs believe other things apart from God? They all went to church, Jesus being number one in church.

Of course. You go to church because Paul said it was good to go to church, that wasn't from Jesus.

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Of course. You go to church because Paul said it was good to go to church, that wasn't from Jesus.

Lol, number one, Paul's epistles are taken as God's Word. Jesus Christ did not take only His spoken words as God's word. Also, Hebrews which you likely refer to as Paul's saying is also part of the inspired scriptures.
Number two, i didn't even refer to Hebrews or Paul but to the Psalms where i quoted that "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord." Seems you forgot the verse as you initially looked fazed. It has been the practice of the patriarchs even from the Old testament to be in church.
Number three, Jesus Christ our perfect and personal example didn't miss church. Ever heard that He is with us where we are gathered? It seems your Bible knowledge is rusty, all these is basic.

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Lol, number one, Paul's epistles are taken as God's Word. Jesus Christ did not take only His spoken words as God's word. Also, Hebrews which you likely refer to as Paul's saying is also part of the inspired scriptures.
Number two, i didn't even refer to Hebrews or Paul but to the Psalms where i quoted that "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into the house of the Lord." Seems you forgot the verse as you initially looked fazed. It has been the practice of the patriarchs even from the Old testament to be in church.
Number three, Jesus Christ our perfect and personal example didn't miss church. Ever heard that He is with us where we are gathered? It seems your Bible knowledge is rusty, all these is basic.

Still that psalm was not Jesus saying it. Whatever the case that is something separate from your belief in god, Dtruthspeaker for example is evidence that you can strongly believe in the god and choose not to go to church. I on the other hand I am an atheist who goes to church.

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LoLz. Chai! Na wa, even MJ didn't do the moonwalk as heavily as you are backtracking now. Your response was right on this thread in regards to why you don't go to church.

See again what you said here:



Why are you denying your very own words? Bwahahahahaha!

And the evidence you have just supplied has only proven my case as I told you earlier "DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE"!
BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL THING!

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And the evidence you have just supplied has only proven my case as I told you earlier "DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE"!
BUT YOU JUST MUST DO AN EVIL THING!

Which different time or circumstance when its still in the same thread about the same issue? LoLz.

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Still that psalm was not Jesus saying it. Whatever the case that is something separate from your belief in god, Dtruthspeaker for example is evidence that you can strongly believe in the god and choose not to go to church. I on the other hand I am an atheist who goes to church.

Lol, Jesus Christ chose to go to church. i follow Him.

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Lol, Jesus Christ chose to go to church. i follow Him.

Ok.

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It's what the Bible says, man

Think think think.
Lake of fire represent eternal destruction.
That's hell/grave and death will be no more. They won't exist again. Likewise Satan, his angels, false prophet and wicked people will be destroyed eternally, eternal death.

They won't keep living in hell fire.

Lake of fire and Gehenna illustrates the same thing, eternal destruction/death.
Gehenna was (mis)translated to hell. Also Hadēs which means the grave was translated to hell.

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His spirit went there. Read Peter's epistle, man..

If Jesus spirit or soul went there, does that mean hell is a bad place?