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Martinez19:If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. The question is, what creature was he before he became a new creature?. Of cause, grass means nothing to a lion neither does meat mean anything to a goat. This is the reason why someone will come out to say, Christianity doesn't make sense. If Christianity means being like Christ, and some body says, it doesn't make sense, it then becomes clear who such a person is, non else but an anti Christ. You need to repent of this careless talk. That some people are misbehaving is no reason to say this. Thanks. |
Maamin:That does not change the person. Stop trying to twist the scriptures. When Gabriel came to deliver the message of God to Zachariah and Mary, did he assume the names and titles of God because the words were from God?. Gabriel distinguished himself from the person of God. Take note that he came to reveal something, just like Jesus revealed to John. Luke 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. You people can never deny the person of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Jesus distinctively described himself. Was God the father the one who died, and rose again?, so why trying to add to the scriptures what isn't there all in an attempt to justify the wrong believe of who Jesus Christ is?. Jesus Christ is the visible image of God, He is the word of God, the love of God. Now tell me, what is the difference between your word and yourself?. Can you send your word on an errand?. The whole thing is that you don't believe in the Holy Spirit, and that's why you find it difficult to understand the word of God. If you deny the place of Jesus Christ in the God head, you don't believe in God!. |
OtemAtum:Absolutely!, and that's by you!. You are the one peddling falsehood. You came out from one dark corner, after some devils have told you some sugar coated poison. So please, stop telling everybody lies. |
Perfectbeing:Matters of salvation and eternal destiny demands urgency. The decision one makes now or fails to make is what seals ones fate. Time is of the essence, so falsehood must be shot down without delay, the truth must be preached. Jesus Christ is the way to eternal life. Salvation is now! |
[quote author=PrecisionFx post=69728080]Christians are the most dangerous n the most morally bankrupt people on planet earth.[/quot] Absolutely not correct!. There may be some who in the name of Christianity, perpetuate crime, fraud and false teaching. Jesus even told us that such will be the case toward the end. To now generalize it, is very inappropriate. The fact is, without Christians in the world today, you yourself won't be alive! I know that sounds hard and unbelievable, but that's the honest truth. For their sake, alot of evil is put in check, and disallowed. They're the diluters of raw evil, because they're light in this dark world. Christians are light and salt in this world. Salt preserves and light illuminate darkness. There's increasing wickedness in the world today, because true Christians are becoming few. Can you imagine what would happen if they weren't there?. The world would be tasteless and darkened in absolute wickedness!. Choose to become a light in your own little corner and put the darkness to flight!. But you can't shine, if you haven't recieved the light from the source itself, Jesus Christ, the light of the world. No electric bulb can shine, if it's not connected to the mains. Jesus Christ is the way to life. Salvation is now!. |
geoworldedu:May God have mercy on your soul. Father please, forgive this person because he knows not what he's doing!. Oh Lord! How gracious you are!. To think that you will not permit even the least ranking angel to teach this mortal a lesson, speaks volume of your love. Be warned! The bible says, the sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Don't destroy your soul out of foolish talk!. If you don't know, I suggest you keep quiet, rather than talk foolishly. Jesus is the way to life. Salvation is now! |
OtemAtum:Look at how you reason?. Is Lucifer speaking?. Why are you here, and what are you doing?. Why would my Father come down to speak, when His word has been given already?, besides, I'm here!. I can't be here and allow fallen angels misbehave, for what?!. You try nonsense, you see fire!. This is my Father's world. I can see the uneasiness with you, but you keep trying to wave it aside. This is the period of grace for people like you to repent and come home to Jesus Christ. As for those fallen angels, there own is finished already!. Father God have spoken, let him that have an ear to hear, hear now!. But as a son of the almighty God, don't ever think that I will be silent and watch this lies perpetuated. |
OtemAtum:The devil is your enemy. He is the enemy of your life and soul. Wisdom demands that you know your enemy, and stand guard against him, not to submit and become his slave or spokes person. Jesus Christ is your life and Savior. Repent and receive Him today. Salvation is now!. |
OtemAtum:God has no religion. God is love!. If you insist that God have a religion, then you can say His religion is love, but not just any kind of thing called love, but true, pure and holy love. He has given us Jesus Christ His son to believe in, and model after, and through Him recieve both life and freedom from the enemy of our souls. Religion is not the calling of God, but repentance and salvation. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Christ is the way to life. Salvation is now!. |
Luciferhimself:Are you now the spokes person of Lucifer?. What a disgrace!. It's a shame for a prince to come down from his throne to serve the very enemy of his life!. That's the greatest defeat!. That's what you done!. Tell that thief and liar of a fallen angel, that I said, He will fail, and fail woefully!. God has a big surprise for him, and it's not going to be pleasant!. As for those who have ignorantly followed him, they will so be ashamed and embarrassed, and pained!. Satan is a liar!. He lied to Eve and decieved her!. Are you ignorant of this?. He's a thief because, he seeks for worship meant for God alone, and he does it by trickery and lies. Is that who you want to serve?. For your information, Satan has no friends, doesn't love himself, and has no love. I wonder what you're looking for with him. All you see is lies, pretence and deception. Jesus Christ is the way to life. Jesus Christ loves you dearly, and he will accept you still if you repent now!. Salvation is now!. |
TATIME:No evidence?! Really?. I'm not surprised, because, since I started discussing with you JWs, it's been from one lie, twisting, denials, false teachings and misquoting to another!. Have you provided an answer to the verse below?. Did I, or did I not ask you about it?. You were beating about the bush, rather than accepting the truth, only to come out now to say, there's no evidence. May God forgive you, because you do not know what you're doing!. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 1. How many first and last can we have?. 2. Do we now have two Gods, otherwise why would Jesus be claiming the title of first and last?. 3. Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: If Jesus has nothing to do with diety, why would this verse arise in the first place?. Can you see your anti Christ stand?. All I see, is a subtle and cunning effort to deny the deity of Jesus Christ, and you're not even aware!. If you don't believe in Him, you have no part with God!. The devils know this, they'll make you think you're serving the real God, but all the while, you've been wasting your time!. You can't say you're serving God, while at the same time, you're making His word a lie, and in fact, you're calling Him a liar!. It means you have someone else in mind, rather than Him. Seek the real Jesus Christ!. |
TATIME:Stop saying what the bible never said!. Your explanation of who a natural man is, and who a spiritual man is, is totally different from what the bible said. Why do you go off scriptures?. If we must discuss anything about God and eternity, we can't do it without the word of God!. 1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. The natural man is the one who understands and interpret and judges life and things using human reasoning and knowledge only!. The spiritual man however, is the one who understands, interprets, judges and sees things from the spiritual angle!. He understands that, the physical world is controlled by the spiritual world. That's why the Holy Spirit is there to guide you, otherwise, by mere interpretation of things based on physical sense alone, will lead to false teachings like is the case now with all your interpretations. Why?, because you do not believe in the Holy Spirit, let alone have Him, even though the bible talks about Him, yet you JWs refused to accept Him. How can you then understand the things of the spirit?. |
TATIME:I don't care how intelligent any body may appear. If you don't believe in, and have the Holy Spirit of God, your interpretation of the Bible will always be flawed with human errors. The bible is God's word, if you must understand it, you need the spirit of the writer to do so, more so, the writer said He will send His spirit to help you interpret, understand and guide you on how to use the bible. So, all human skills and knowledge amount to nothing here. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. 1 Corinthians 4:19 But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power. 1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. Do you have the Holy Spirit of God?. If you don't, and it's obvious that you don't, because you don't believe in Him!. Therefore, you will continue to interpret the bible the way you interpret novels, forgetting that the bible is the word of God, and the word of God is spiritual, and must be spiritually discerned. Again, you have misinterpreted the scriptures by claiming a select few were called to know the secret things of God. Before Jesus went up to heaven, He commanded the disciples to make disciples themselves of all men. This disciples they will make will not be in any way lesser than they are. Apostle Paul was not among the disciples, so why did he get so many secret things of God, so much so that, he couldn't even mention some of the mysteries he saw by the revelation of the Holy Spirit. 2 Corinthians 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven. 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Why do you blindly choose to believe a lie?. The evidence is there, yet you can't see it, because you haven't known the owner of the bible. You seriously need to know the real Jesus Christ, and His Holy Spirit, else the bible will be a fictional book to you. The bible admonished us to come boldly before the throne of grace, yet JW teaches that only the select few, and chief slaves can hear from God and pass it on to others, that's absolute falsehood, and anti bible. Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. |
lilliesboy:You can't deny the truth. You can say whatever you like, but be sure you will give account one day. You have heard the gospel, the choice to accept or reject it is absolutely yours. The reality is a fixed constant, that can not be harmed by anybody's opinion. Know Jesus, know life, no Jesus, no life. |
TATIME:my brother please, stop the scripture twisting. The Holy Spirit is there to guide us. But you don't believe in Him. You're claiming that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit ended at the pentiscost. That's absolute lie. The Holy Spirit is freely given to all who believe in Jesus Christ. Oh my God what falsehood. That's why you keep misinterpreting of the scriptures. How do you expect to know the things of God when you're not born again. Is the athiest born again?. Does he have the spirit of God?. Do you need to be told what spirit controls someone who doesn't believe in God?. Who told you, you've conquered people's believe?. That's an atom of pride you have there, take is easy. You can't use falsehood as truth and claim to have conquered. Satan too, can conquer an ignorant believer with lies. Does that make him true?. You need to know the real Jesus Christ, that's the honest truth. You're clearly misinformed. You're are having problems because you don't believe the Holy Spirit of God. You dare call Him an active force, while He is a being, the very essence and personality of God. As long as you hold that view that He's a mere force, you will continue to misinterpret the word is God. Romans 8:9 [b]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 2 :12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 2 :13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.[/b] Clearly read the above. Do you have the spirit of God?. |
TATIME: Tell me, is the fire there in Jerusalem's refuse dump still burning?. If it's not, then you've made Jesus a liar!. But let God be true, and every man a liar. You can't deny the truth. No amount of twisting the scriptures will free you on the last day, because you chose to believe what you now believe. I tell you, you don't know the real Jesus yet, otherwise you won't be going about making His words of no effect, all in an effort to defend a man. Another thing, if when a man dies, he merely gets dumped in the hell, and that's it, then why border yourself?. You will just burn off, and that's all. Why would Jesus disturb Himself stressing about hell fire, and it not being quenchable. |
TATIME:Your problem is the fact that, you Jws do not believe in the fact that we humans are spirits that have a soul and dwell in a body. When a man dies, his body, which was taken from the dust of the ground, returns to the ground. But the Spirit and the soul lives on depending on what choices that individual made while alive on earth. Regarding where the spirit of Adam and eve, and all the people who lived in the pre flood era went, the bible tells us, that when Jesus died, he went to preach to them as well. Tell me how that is possible, if they are just bodies who have rottened away?. 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. It's clear, a living aspect of these people lived on till the time of Jesus Christ. Stop believing a lie, I've told you, don't wait to be shocked by the reality, and you're not prepared. You don't yet believe in God. |
TATIME:A faith that denies the diety of Jesus Christ, is that one faith?. You might claim to be a believer, and even call yourself a true believer, yet you do not truly believe God, because you do not really believe in Jesus Christ. Please stop believing the lies of the founder of JW. |
budaatum:It will be very difficult for you, who are nothing a believer of God to understand the depth things of God. If men can just read the bible like an ordinary literature and understand it, then there wouldn't have been any need of sending the Holy Spirit to teach and lead us into all truth. God heed slot if mysteries away from the devil until Jesus was crucified and rose again. There was no way any mortal would have known it!. But the devil knows very well who Jesus Christ is, he was only able to approach Him because He was in the flesh, having striped himself of all his glory. 1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. The question is, do you have this Holy Spirit of God. Most of those who do not accept this truth, are those who do not believe in God nor His Holy Spirit as a person. So how would you understand the things of God and about God. Again, the bible in several verses, made it clear for even the ordinary discerning mind to have an idea. For instance, in what bases would Jesus make the statement below. Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Do we have two first and last, or is the bible lying?. Think. |
OtemAtum:Death without Jesus Christ is hell fire straight!. And it's not fun. You can ask your sponsors, that's if they can tell you the truth, very unlikely!. They are masters of lies. The day they say the truth, they'll all vanish!. Truth is not in their mouth. Avoid them!. Jesus Christ is the way. Repent and be saved. Salvation is now!. |
TATIME:Wonderful!. I'm shocked, really?. Please explain the unquenchable fire for me, and the fact that people are in it. If it is according to what you said, why did Jesus Christ say it will be unquenchable?. For your information, the ordinary flesh neither goes to heaven or hell. It does and returns to the dust from which it was taken by God. The soul makes the journey to heaven or hell fire. Don't change it!. You've said so many lies already!. The thief did not go to hell fire, because he accepted Jesus Christ before His death. He was the first beneficiary of the work of grace and the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. That God stopped revealing things to people after the book of Revelation, is another afront against the bible, because the Lord promised that in the last days, He will pour out His spirit upon all flesh, and many will prophecy, and others will see visions and dream dreams. Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Is the spirit of God now a demon spirit?. Are we in the last days or not?. Or are you still believing the lies that Jesus Christ is already here!, as JWs where told?. No doubt, the devil can deceive with visions and revelations, but that's for those who do not know their God. Jesus said that "my sheep hear my voice...the voice of the stranger, they will never follow". Do you know the voice of Jesus Christ?, why would you then follow a deceiver and not be able to know it, if that happens it means you don't know your God!. But it is utterly false to assume that God no longer reveals things to His children. Ignorance is very dangerous. The devil will never want His kingdom exposed. Many people have been shown the horrors of hell, so that they can warn people. But you're still sticking with the doctrine of your leader, who merely felt it there's no hell fire. Do realise this truth too late. Twisting and misinterpreting scriptures, will not save you. |
geoworldedu:Can't you see your heart and imagination is wicked and polluted?. Because of sin and hate, you're reasoning very shamefully!. The power and abilities of the almighty God is beyond your little brain. How was the first man made?. Was there any woman involved?. The mystery of God can not be understood by those who love darkness rather than light. Repent and seek forgiveness from the Lord. Stop being wise in your own eyes. Idle words will be judged. Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. |
lilliesboy:Hahaha. What a pity! Did you learn biology at all?. It seems you didn't pay attention in class. Tell me, how does a foetus form without exchange of fluid between both sexes?. The mystery of God is clearly bigger than you. The virgin womb of a virgin woman was chosen to carry the sinless saviour. I hope you understand that?. The blood of Mary had no play in the process, neither was that of any man involved. Let me tell you, stop trying to use your small brain to understand the limitless God. How can an ant, think of explaining the whole universe?. The oceans are there for you to explore and discover, yet, you do not know up to 5% of it with all your wisdom and reasoning. What a shame!. But you want to explain the creator of the whole universe, with what exactly?. All you could think about with the brain God gave to you, is to believe that you're a mistake, a chance, an oops!, who came by random process. What an unfortunate state!. Wake and return to your maker. Jesus loves you plenty. |
Maamin:Really?, so all the bible verses are not enough for you?. Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Why would Jesus Christ make such categorical statement?. Is the bible lying?. If you do not believe in the Trinity of God, you do not believe God!. You can't separate God, or make Him what He is not!. |
Maamin:Really?. All the bible verses are not enough?. Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Why did Jesus make that statement?. Do we now have two Gods, or is the bible false?. |
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TATIME:Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Was Jesus talking trash above?. What is it that you can't quench in the above passage?. You just select verses of scriptures that suit you and explain it away. The only thing that will make you stop this falsehood you're ignorantly maintaining, is for God to just allow you to see it for just a minute!. If at all you can bear to see it for that long, and see how lost souls are languishing in horrific pain there. It's difficult for me to even ask you to pray to God and ask Him to let you see it. It's horrific!. Can you argue against something with someone who have seen it first hand?. This is a serious issue here, and you better take it serious. It's not religious dogma, no, it's far more serious than that. |
OneJ:How on earth can someone be denying an obvious truth!. May the light of truth enlighten your heart. Let not pride blind your heart. God is one! He manifest Himself in three personalities. If you deny this truth, then you don't know God. That's the simple truth!. |
RuthlessLeader:You have no excuse whatsoever!. The truth you choose this day to deny, you will voluntarily spew it out before God someday. Who else died more than two thousand years ago, and rose again from the dead, and is still alive till today?. Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Your eternal hope rest on His shoulders. The earlier you accept Him as your Lord and personal saviour, the better. |
OtemAtum:Oh comom!, stop pretending already!. You're obviously confused. You don't know what will happen to you after here. You're just hoping it turns out what you believe. But there's no way lies will become truth!. Never!, it will never happen!. This is the only chance you have. If you die in this wickedness of yours, in collaboration with these devils and Antichrist, you will end up where they end up. Believe me, that place is not to be toyed with. Repent, Otem, repent now!. Jesus Christ is Lord over all, and forever!. Salvation is now! |
OtemAtum:That's the lie the imprisoned fallen angels tell you. They are telling you stories about themselves, only they twisted it to fool you. 2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Flee now! break away from them before they destroy you. They hate you. Open your eyes! Repent and seek the saviour now!. |
OtemAtum:There's only one master and father of lies. He and he alone is the sponsor of your ferytale. He is no other that Satan himself. I pity you my dear, it is a shame for you to become a servant to a defeated foe. What a shame it is for you to become an handkerchief for a merciless and ruthless devil. Why?. What has he promised you?. What has he even to promise you with?. Big theif and a liar as he is?. What blindness is this you allowed to swallow you up this?. Please wake up now. Don't play with eternity. Jesus Christ can still save you. As long as you're alive, there's hope. The greatest lie anybody can tell, is the lie he tells himself. Jesus Christ is Lord over all, and for ever. Salvation is now! |
, around which it is centered. Everything can only be taken by faith, feelings & emotions and "plausible nonsequiturs". In an age where the basis and validity of religion are constantly being challenged, "plausible nonsequiturs" and reinforcement of them has become golden for deluded faithfuls and apologists. Christianity fails logically and morally, you have a god who can see the future and is all powerful but couldn't forsee the havoc of lucifer at the garden, even if he did, why would he create lucifer? answer without insulting human intelligence and morality. Why did he plant or create the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Even if he did, why did he choose, of all places to plant it in the garden? He could create a flaming sword to bar Adam and Eve from entering the garden after they sinned but he didn't create a flaming sword to bar them from eating from the tree 
such an one caught up to the third heaven. 
