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Shebi them talk sey na only mouth he get. #mouthaction# |
Scholar8200:Really? the saints that died before Jesus resurrected with him lol....Hmmmm so what were they doing on the earth? roaming round the street? or do they follow Jesus to heaven? Lol... Bro read your bible very well. No body have ever been to heaven before and after the death of Jesus till now, except Jesus. The story of the rich man and Lazarus was just an illustration. Nobody is in paradise now, Adam has been chased out of garden of eden. Abraham bosom is just a location where Abraham is inhabiting. A kind of resident allocated to him, but they are all still in the grave. No Mather the beautiful name you might called a potion of this earth, it still remain earth. |
@op, this exactly the reason why i left my former church. Christians are the most stubborn set of people on the face of the earth, yet we claimed we love God. Adam was not deceived but eve. That's why the bible called woman the weaker vessel. Women are not made to be the head, but where created to assist the man(Adam) Women are restricted in some certain things, there re limit they can go concerning the things of God especially the church. Like the op rightly said, men are the head of family as Christ is the head of the church. Even apostle paul gave it as a warning in the 1 Corinthian that it a shame for woman to lead or preach in all churches of the saint. But today the tide has turned upside, women are now at the top. Why most of them are general overseas. So what do you expect? the whole system has collapsed, God created man but man has decided to recreate themselves in the name of civilization. Note. women are not forbidden to do the work of God, but must it be inside a church? Yes, the gift was also given to them as well but these gift is not to work as pastor, you can do the work of an evangelist, like going out and winning souls for the kingdom God. He will surely reward you. There re many area a woman can use her gift for, so that the work of God can move forward. Every thing must not be inside the church. If we truly claimed we have love for God, pls let respect and obey they word of God. Show me a woman who is proud and arrogant. And i will show you a woman heading a church. |
misreal:I wanted to quote him, but you have actually said my mind. |
cheeketo:The bus in this context is all about redemption. Thats only way man can make heaven. Yes Adam suppose to live forever, but when he disobey God, and eat that fruit he became imperfect, therefore those not deserved to remain there. But Jesus christ also visited those in hell who never has the opportunity to meet him when he died, and spent three days with them, to make sure that no one is left out of his forgiveness and mercy. YOU CAN NEVER BE GOOD WITHOUT JESUS. Otherwise your goodness will be regarded as a filthy rag. |
I know factually any one who sees the topic these thread, will definitely send it back to sender. Lol... while many will not even bother to go through it. But that's the truth, a very bitter one. So weather you sent it back or not holds nothing. WHAT DO YOU UNDERSTAND AS HELL? That's where the problem lies, you re understanding of hell is very important. Hell is not a fire as many people thinks. Hell simply mean a valley, a pit, total dackness, dead, grave, which means the land of the dead, where the souls of Adam (man) and his children will go after dead. God warns Adam that any day you will eat of that fruit you will surely die. Note; that's word of God, and he can never lie, he did not say you will burn in fire forever somewhere, no but you will surely die. Did he actually mean it? yes he means whatever he says. But the devil deceive man telling him that man will not surely die. But Adam realise these truth when he ate the fruit. The opposite of life is dead. At the same vain the opposite of heaven is hell. Not hell fire Adam does not drop dead automatically but Adam was dead in disguise. Now even if you spent 1000 yrs, you are still dead and your abode is hell. We should all be great full to God for his infinite mercy who send us another ADAM (Jesus) who came to redeemed us from hell through his precious blood. Now the choice is yours, he came down with a bus, those who follows him to enter the bus, those who will obtain his ticket even though they die he will also resurrect them and take them to heaven to live forever why those who reject him will remain in hell at the last day, even though they are still living. Adam ate the fruit and the fruit gave birth to death. The same God has given us the fruit of live. Those who will accept to eat this fruit ( Jesus) will live forever. Man was driven out of the garden the moment he ate that fruit, thus became a candidate of hell. |
MightySparrow:What you dont know is that as far you are still living, you are already a candidate of hell, and when you died you will surely go there, you re only saviour is if you are a born again, then Jesus will resurrect from there to heaven on the last day, even Abraham is still there waiting for the second coming of Jesus. Otherwise they will remain forever there. |
@OP, Why are you miss interpreting the quaran? why dont you look for a moslem scholar to help you, or what did you intent to gain in doing these.? Now in case you want to learn, The opposite of heaven is hell. The opposite of life is dead. When man ate the forbidden fruit, man died automatically. God can never lie. HE told Adam any day you eat of that fruit you will surely die. But the devil received him that he will not die. Man is living yet man is dead, another name for dead is hell. even if man live for 1000 years man is still dead. any man born of woman is dead, This spirit of man will go to a place called hell. which means land of for dead. weather you are righteous or wicked you will surely visit there. Thank God for the second Adam that redeemed us back to live. These live is the same the as heaven. PLS check my thread. The difference between hell and hell fire for a better clarification. |
@op, you re getting the whole things wrong. First of all you don't even know the meaning of hell. Man goes to hell while Satan go to hellfire So there re different between hell and hell fire. reason, man is made with dust while Satan is made with fire. Now at the end of the day each goes to where they belongs after the judgement. Hell is a place meant for souls/ spirit of man after he died either wicked or righteous It is these soul/spirit that make a man to live. Man is made up of body soul or spirit. And the lord God breaths into the nose trill of man and man became a living soul. you can find these in Genesis 2. in a nutshell, hell simply mean a land of the dead. All the people who died and buried, beginning from Adam where still there till now, even Jesus visited the place HELL once, the moment he gave up the ghost. pls read ur bible very well. So the wicked will remain in hell, while the righteous will live an everlasting live in heaven. Therefore as JESUS resurrected from hell and were taken to heaven so is every righteous person will also be resurrected and will be taken to heaven as well to be with the lord and they shall live forever. Then the souls who didn't meet up after the judgement will be destroy with fire including Satan and they will exist no more. Pls tell man the truth so that from the bottom of their heart they will fall in love with Jesus who will gave them everlasting life. NOTE: God can not torment man in hell fire forever. That is not the personality of a just God Thank God you admitted he made heaven and hell. GOD CAN NEVER MAKE WHAT HE CAN NOT CONTROL. Peace. |
Jesus made a statement while he was speaking with Jews. He said Abraham was longing to see his days and saw it and was glad. These statement made these Jews really angry and wanted to cast a stone on him considering his age Yes there was a time he mentioned that, before Abraham he was, yes we all understand what he mean, that he was referring about the creation even before Abraham were born. But these very one what does he actually mean? where and how does he Abraham going to meet Jesus and when and how do they met? These is questions people have failed to ask. When Jesus died, he went straight to the land of the dead. Avery one that died weather he is buried or not the first place they will go to is called land of the dead. Good, these land of the dead is called Hell. THE LAND OF THE DEAD IS CALLED HELL. So Jesus also visited the land of the dead. so Jesus went to hell but not hell fire. That's when he met with Abraham and other righteous people that came before Abraham. Good these land of the dead are divided into two part. The children of devil and the children of Abraham are not living together, where Abraham is staying is called Abraham bosom. But till now Abraham and Samuel are still in the land of the dead. The only person who visited there and comes out again is our Lord Jesus Christ. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is just an illustration to capture a story. Now on the day of judgement God will resurrect the righteous and take them to heaven but the wicked who are still inside the hell will be cast along with hell itself inside a fire with Satan. So man and Satan will be eliminated once and for all forever. Therefore Satan and those that offends will exist no more. That's what is called judgement. It is not going to be like the ones we have over here, where an accuse will be appealing and the judge will keep on to adjourn the case. NO NO NO, God does not have time for that rubbish. The whole world belongs to him. Even Satan can not challenge him. Man just decided to give Satan more at tension and these is very pathetic. Our God is not wicked intact there is no atom of wickedness in him. Those who accepted his offer ( JESUS ) will live forever while those who will or have rejected his offer (JESUS)will die, that's the second dead. And will not exist again forever. Is that simple. And that's the difference between both of them. HELL AND FIRE. |
bxcode:Good, these are exactly what i wanted to hear from you. You have also made some valid points, like God paying dearly to deliver us from sin by giving us his only son to die on the cross. 1; Devil is not the creator of hell or hell fire. You makes it look as if hell belong to Satan. Everything belong to God, either HEAVEN, HELL, DEATH, GRAVE, SAND, FIRE, LIFE, MONEY, POVERTY, RICHES, LONG LIFE, MAN, SAT AN, POWER AND MIGHT. ALL BELONG TO GOD. Therefore he does not need to take order from anybody before do whatever he wanted to do. God is not an elected president, and no body can query him for taking any action. He has the power to condemn and also have the power to set free even the worst criminal. God created man in his image, but man eventually lost that image when he disobey him I don't know how on earth man think he can be more merciful lovely and compassionate than God. That's exactly what you are saying here. You are also saying that hell belong to Satan. Hence anybody who find himself there even when God wanted to deliver the person from there, he has no power to do it. That's exactly what you are saying I have also listen to the testimonies of many people including pastors who claimed they died and Jesus took them to hell and show them how some sinners are wailing and gnashing their teeth in a very hot fire thicker and more fiercer than the ones we have here. And when they pleaded for mercy, Jesus told them that he will not be able to deliver them. All these are all lies and a cook up story to paint God what he is not. When you are watching your loving wife been rotten in prison, for whatever reason and you have made an effort to set her free, and yet the judge still remain adamant.Then you will finally give. That's human limitation. But God does not have any limitation. He is commander general, field marshal, and commander in chief of armed forces. He has the power to kill and also has the power to make alive. He has the power to eliminate you forever and also has the power to make you live forever. Its is only two option, is either you are destroyed, or you live forever. Its is only a wicked being will do otherwise, and thats what the devil wants you to believe. If i go to the village and bring a maid to assist you on your domestic works, and she eventually turn a witch and destroy your home, yet you still try your best to keep her because of the love you have on parent, and when you see that all your efforts are not yielding any result, do you put knife on her throat? You have no other choice than to send her back to village. But do you know that it is possible for that maid to be part of your family and enjoy every other things that your biological children are benefiting. That's exactly how God relate with us. If you are interested, he said in the bible choose you either death or live but choose you live that you may live. So if you are interested and ready to go with the bus. (JESUS) Good, you will all live an everlasting life but if you reject the offer then he has no choice than to sent you back from where you from( Hell) He has nothing to loose, you are the one who loose everlasting life It is only the devil who will go hell fire, thats where he belong. It is like sending the young maid to prison because he broke your tumbler thats wickedness, hence the tumbler belongs to you. The only thing to do as a good man is to send her back to her parent, if you can no longer tolerate her, any more and anybody who hear it will nod his head in agreement. That's what made Solomon a wise judge before his people. Satan and those who worship him will exist no more upon the earth when God is done with his Judgement. Both man and devil will be destroyed, the one that belong to dust will go back to dust and the ones that belong to fire will go back to fire. Then peace will rain upon the earth. Then man and the Engels who did not disobey God will live together forever, weather heaven garden of eden or paradise. They are just the same. What matter most is them living peacefully joyfully and happily. NOTE; These can not happen when your son, daughter, father, friends are wailing shouting crying and gnashing their teeth in a very hot fire beside you. There is an adage that said a child that is dead is better than the one that is missing. Only the chibok parents will understand the meaning of that proverb. |
OgundeleT:No body knows the exact location of hell fire. But all i know is that your grave is ur hell But according to the book of Genesis i can tell you how you were formed. But can you also tell me where you are before you were born? |
OgundeleT:There is hell and there is hellfire. But our understanding of them and their pup poses is the problem now. So that's why i have decided to create these thread. Now where you will go after you died is called hell (GRAVE) but if you are born again then Jesus will take you out of hell and take you to heaven where you will spent an everlasting life with him Please stop deceiving yourself. |
MzNelly:Thanks, it is noted for correction. But whats you re take on these? |
cee001:Why do you choose to play game here? simple question you can not even answer, why don't you be sincere to urself, because you even knows i will get you right away yet you are comparing urself with Jesus, now between both of us who is hypocrite? you claimed you father will torment his children who disobey him in fire forever, now i asked you a simple question. CAN YOU TORMENT YOUR WIFE OR YOUR CHILDREN IN FIRE JUST FOR ONLY 24 HOURS FOR DISOBEYING YOU? Yet you can not answer the question, and choose to beat around the bush. Pathetic. |
Jozzy4:Thanks, i really appreciate your comment. There is no punishment you will give to former president Jonathan that will really pains him, greater than casting him out of asorock, where he is been worship as god. That's why he fought very had to win that election. Do you know if he is in a military regime he will never handover to anybody? You could remember what happened to abacha, gadafi, indiamin of uganda and others you knows very well, how they refuse to leave the seat until their death comes, even obasanjo wanted to go for the third term but he was unable to achieve it. Look the reason why the devil is angry with man is because he was cast out of his throne, that's why he attacks man day and night, he believe man will takes over his domain. He also knows that man was made with sand, so he believe he is superior to man. so there is no other punish greater to him than loosing him throne. (HEAVEN) Therefore God is not using fire to punish him, Can you trow a fish inside a water and claimed to be punishing it? ofcus not. God is simply sending the devil to the original materials which he was made of, which is fire. So if that happens it then mean he has been destroyed. I dont want to go too deep. But for now the devil is still moving freely upon the earth. Thanks once again. |
cee001:I asked you a simple question and you re telling me a long story. can you burn your only son with fire just for only 24hrs? . i want to hear yes or no, and and stop beating around the bush. |
Jozzy4:Thanks but man has lost that image, so Jesus came to restore that image. like i said these image here is not an ordinary picture but the true nature of God therefore those that really possess these image will not be able to cast their son in fire for 24hrs. Jesus after all they did to him he beg God to forgive them. That's how to identify those that truly poses these image. |
Lets take a look at two words critically. The opposite of Heaven is hell. When you mention the word death, hell or grave you are just saying the same thing whichever ways you wanted to look at it they just mean the same thing. They mean to physically exist no more. So the opposite of life is death not hellfire. Is either you die or live forever, so since Satan can not die physically because of the nature( fire) which they were created of therefore the only place they will go to is where they came from which is fire. therefore since they can not die they will finally end up in fire forever. that's why it is called hell fire. while man will remain in the grave forever which is hell. Is as simple as that. So Adam were cast out of the garden, and the Glory of God were taken from him. So even Adam were opportune to live 1,000,000 one million years and died it still mean that Adam is dead, and his abode will still remain in grave, dead, or hell, and can not be compare with someone that will live forever. Satan are suppose to live for ever in heaven but because of their disobedient, they were cast out of heaven and returned to their original stage which they were before, which is fire while man were also cast out of the garden and returned to his original stage which is dust. And there they will also remain forever. Thank God for Jesus Christ who came to this earth with a bus. (redemption) just like Noah's ark. so any one that will believe him and enter the bus will be save and will be given ticked to enter heaven and live forever with Christ or stay behind here and die and remain in grave( hell) forever. I did not say that man will be cast out no, man has been cast out already, just like Satan but now Jesus came to restore man to were they were suppose to be. So it is either you return back with Jesus or you remain here forever. what I'm telling you now is mystery, that only the wise can understand. And that's the mystery of salvation. Therefore i do not create these thread to encourage sin but to let you know the true nature and personality of God. |
cee001:Those words were just mere illustration. It is the devil and his angel that will be cast into a furnace of fire, they were created with fire while man were created with dust, so the disobedient one will return back to dust. Pls answer these question can you cast your son inside a fire and be watching him to burn for just only 24 hours? i need your answer pls. Thanks |
[quote author=cee001 post=37469513]Matt. 13:4 1-42[/quote |
Hmmmm let me clear these issue once and for all. Man is created with sand while Satan is created with fire, when man fell from Glory. That image of God which man possess were removed from man. (DUST THOU ARE, AND TO DUST THOU SHALL RETURNED) These image here is not an ordinary PICTURE but the true nature of God. Therefore making man an ordinary sand with spirit, just like other animals. Now when man dies, that parts that belong to the earth (SAND) will surely go back to earth, even if you spent 1000 years here it is still meaningless hence you are still going to die at the end of the day. Good, the other part of you which is your spirit we remain in hell ( GRAVE) Your hell is your grave, hell is grave. And the rich man looked from hell and saw Lazarus in Abraham blossom and begged for a drop of water to cooled his tongue.... is just an illustration to, just like a parable to capture something, it is not real. Both Lazarus and Abraham are still in hell (GRAVE) even Jesus have also been to hell (GRAVE) for about three days before he rose and go back to heaven where he was before. Now on the last day ( JUDGMENT DAY) Man will be resurrected from hell (Grave) both righteous and the wicked for judgement, after the judgment, those who have not been wash with the precious blood of Jesus will be sent back to hell (Grave) while the righteous will follow Jesus to heaven, weather you called it paradise or heaven you are still saying the same thing. Now since the devil is created with fire, then then the devil does not have any choice than to go back to hell fire if they refuse to repent. So man goes to hell while devil go to hellfire. NOTE: And not encouraging sin here at all but to let you know who God truly is, and not what man painted him to be. our God is not wicked to allow an ordinary ( flesh) man to be roasted in fire for everlasting. If you who are wicked can not allow your only son to be burn inside a fire for whatever reason, even for 24hrs while do you think God will do that let say 1000 years? If you can not do it, and you think God can do it, it then means you are more merciful than God which is impossible. Was man truly forgiven? Yes man will be forgiven if they can accept the redeemer which is Jesus Christ as there only Lord and saviour or else remain in the grave forever while Satan will remain in hellfire forever, that's if they did not repent. If they Satan still repent God will still forgive them because he is a merciful God. That's who he is. And that's the very one i worship and that is the true God, he can not command us to do what he God can not do. So i have read different kinds of comments here about God which does not portrayed his true identity, that's why i have decided to up these thread here. Only those that truly have the spirit of God will understand this massage. God bless you all. |
mezebel:May God forgive me, i dislike that woman with passion. Arrant nonsense. |
NwabuezeWini:The corrupt ones in Apc are the wailing wailers. |
UncleJudax:Lies, the masses does not have any problem with his appointments but these criminals does. |
His name is I AM that I AM. He does not have beginning and he does not have end. So he is created by nobody. But he created all things including devil himself. Have i answered your question? |
raayah:Rubbish, why dont you go and creat your own thread? |
naijainfogalery:Dont mind her, i have put her where she belong. @lady f. |
plainmirror:So if u ar the one, you will have the gut to take away the baby under that circumstances? Tell me something. |
ladyF:Are you an animal? what such of rubbish is this? lady f again at every thread, are you alright? pathetic. |
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