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I can almost guarantee you he’ll be annoyed by you gently opening and closing your door while screaming and foot-tapping at 3am. I’d slam the door hard if I were you. Maybe then he’ll get the message.

Overly-noisy neighbours are a special kind of annoying. Writing notes will just come across as passive-aggressive so unless you’re willing for there to potentially be something of a bad vibe between you people for the sake of getting the point across, don’t do that. I’ve been there and it might work for all of about two days but nothing lasting.

No.

It doesn’t look like she can even cook well.

RedboneSmith:
There are three recognisable phases in the history of the Nsukka people before colonialism.

Phase 1: The Autochtonous Period:
The earliest Nsukka groups do not have any history of coming from anywhere. They claim that they sprouted from the ground. When Professor Isichei was doing fieldwork in Nsukka zone in the 1970s she was told by the elders that Nsukka came from nowhere and has always been where they were. Archaeological evidence is in support of the traditons that the Nsukka groups have been where they are for a very long time. Dr Hartle found potsherds in Nsukka that were radiocarbon-dated to around 2555BC. The style of the pottery was very similar to pots used in Nsukka till date, which suggests that it is the same ethnocultural group that has been inhabiting the region since at least 2555 BC. There is enough evidence to show that Nsukka people had settled their region before the expansion of Igala and even Nri activities into the area.

Phase 2: The Nri Period:
The first outsiders to extend their influence into the Nsukka area were the Nri, from the south. Traditions of Nri origins are still rife in the area, and refer to the time when Nri priests began to sojourn in the area, establishing shrines and instituting title societies. It was in this period that certain priestly families such as the priests of Ezoguda either came from Nri or began to claim Nri origin.

Phase 3: The Igala Period:
This is only the latest phase of Nsukka history, and only dates to the 17th century at the earliest. As can be seen Nsukka had already passed through two long periods of their history before Igala influence became important in the region. The Igala brought down horses, the red fez hat, some type of beads and some type of robes all of which were highly valued by the Nsukka elite. The Igala royalty contolrolled the movement of this valued items, and sometimes the Nsukka elite even had to travel to Idah to obtain these items. In this way a strong connection was built with Idah. Some of the claims to have emigrated from Idah which is encountered among some Nsukka lineages only refer to these connections. But there were also actual Igala migrants into Nsukka, especially of men who brought in specialised skills like dyeing of clothes. The big traders from Igalaland also settled retainers among the Nsukka to facilitate trade, and some of these retainers ended up settling permanently and intermarrying with the locals. Diewa was one of such Igala settlers who settled in the town of Akụ and married native Akụ women and came to identify with Akụ people. I should note that the Achadu-Attah who was the Igala prime minister had the most extensive trade interests in the Nsukka area, and it was due to his connections/relations with the Nsukka that some Nsukka towns came to attach "Achadu-Attah" to their names.

There is no evidence of actual conquest and rule of the Nsukka by the Igala, even though this is widely claimed on Igala websites. The relations were largely that of trade and cultural influence. There was however also a military aspect to the relations between the Igala and the Nsukka, characterised by the activities of Onoja Oboni. Onoja was a rogue Igala prince who set up his headquarters at Ogurugu from where he harrassed many communities in Nsukka area for slaves. But Onoja was not interested in conquests but in slaves, so his wars never led to actual conquest and rule.

In sum, Nsukka were a distinct group of people long before c. 17th century when Igala influence in many forms became a big factor in shaping the development of their history.

Gotcha. Insightful post.

RedboneSmith:
Culturally and linguistically, this your Frenchman-English analogy no follow, at allllll.

If you're looking for analogies, these are a few I can suggest:

The Ikwerre are as 'Ibo' as an Afrikaner is Dutch.

The Ikwerre are as 'Ibo' as a Maltese is Arab.

The Ikwerre are as 'Ibo' as an Austrian is German.

The Ikwerre are as 'Ibo' as a Walloons-speaking Belgian is French.

Exactly.

ChinenyeN:
They are correct. Language and culture/traditions are all different things and even more so different from origin. People can have different origins and end up with similar language. People can have similar language and end up with different cultures or have different origin because human life is dynamic.

Take Igbo for instance. To linguists, it is clear that Igbo belongs in the same language branch as Yoruba, Edo, Akoko, etc. According to linguists, they suspect the Igbo branch started diverging 6000 - 8000 years ago. However, some anthropologists suspect that some of the communities that speak Igbo now have been settled in the area for longer than that. So what language were they speaking before?

That is a rhetorical question. The point being that evidence suggests that the communities may be older than the language. So now, even though we share a linguistic branch with Yoruba, Edo and Akoko, it may be possible that we do not share an origin.

Get yourself into my latest thread, laddie. Let’s talk about Nsukka.

RedboneSmith:
I see you're off your meds again.

Apparently he wanted to use Osuofia’s head to make pepper soup.

ewa26:
em probz and tedbone ikah shaaa u 2 r people that I want to cook a lot of jollof rice for, erm do I get shaki or Fanta or will u wash it down with chicken blood now u wan now make sacrifices to the gods of laudate, is that right? wait first, what kind of a jerk does that??!

Stick it where the sun don’t shine. Don’t you infect me with your foolery (I remember exactly who you are).

Get in here, lads and ladettes. Let’s talk this one out.

cc. bigfrancis21 (I know we don’t *always* see eye-to-eye but you’re an incredibly valuable poster), RedboneSmith, Odumchi, scholes0 (etc.)

laiperi:
Things have gotten out of hand. There used to be a time we give Igbo, Ghana or Hausa names. Especially, second names.

Really?

zedegit:
Seriously Ak and Calabar are related. At times they are mistaken for each other.

Exactly. The distinction between them is tenuous. Ibibio-Efik people are virtually/almost the same.

Edoziesmart:
Ọkpa of course


Can't remember last I eat moi moi though.
But I eat ọkpa almost everyday except on Sundays.

Why not on Sundays?

Bolaji1996:
What is okpa?

It’s like moi-moi but made with Bambara groundnuts and always wrapped in banana-leaves that’s most popular in Enugu State. I wouldn’t say it’s just a 042 version of moi-moi because Enugu people have been cooking and eating mai-mai since time immemorial and generally okpa’s not even trying to be moi-moi. It’s similar but different.

Both of them are nice in their own way and suit different purposes. But frankly I’d rather chop mai-mai if it had to be one or the other.

PoliteActivist:
See perfect illustration of what I was saying above (my last post).
It is really a matter of being widely read, not necessarily IQ

Is that not what I’m saying?

PoliteActivist:
If you have no argument insult the plaintiff.

It just so happens that vast majority of Nairalanders in certain sections are not widely read at all, and have below average IQ. So whatever I'm saying just goes over their heads.

Nigeria’s a smart country. You don’t have to be a super-introverted misunderstood genius or an academic high-flyer who either got into medicine or could’ve to have a high IQ. There’s a lot of extreme ignorance (and, yes, semi-illiteracy) on our forum but not necessarily inherent stupidity.

mysticwarrior:
Female sex predators can be so vicious and mean to their victims.

No worse than 98.5% of rapists (who are obviously men) are.

Godstiger:
South south was part of Igbo land before the war in case you didn't know

Geo-political zones don’t ultimately determine one’s ethnicity. You do know that, don’t you? Either you’re one of those zealous agitators or you just want to claim every Nigerian who’s not northern, Edo or dark-skin. Yoruba as Igbo. Which one will we dash you now?

Lol.

FlipModeSquade:
A Pharmacist may have potentially higher prospects in Nigeria but not in outside the country..

Exactly.

hakym619:
Occupational Therapy is a very lucrative profession too.

It’s not always, ’though, is it? Moreover, a typical frustrated Nigerian-Nigerian (from Abbey to Emeka to Kunle), especially males, lacks the empathy and patience to be an occupational therapist.

dapsoneh:
What's this nonsense goggle ads popping up every time u open nairaland sef

Annoying adverts are everywhere.

busybay:
No ask this thing 2 times o: Pharmacy is king of medical practice.

That’s not necessarily the case in terms of payment. At least in the U.K., dentists earn a lot more than pharmacists. Even, dentistry is often therein considered a branch of medicine, especially at undergraduate level (“Medicine and Dentistry” is the official term for the course that people who elect for either study). American health-professionals (including nurses, and rightly so) are raking in the bucks anyway so the dentist > pharmacist financial ‘lucravity’ is probably less pronounced over there, if it even exists. Massachusetts is probably the most well-paid state in the U.S. so I’ll compare salaries between dentists and pharmacists in a minute.

RedboneSmith:
Documenting its existence defeats the purpose of destroying it. They were still standing in the 1930s, long after the so-called pacification of Igboland when colonial armies unleashed violence in Igboland. I fail to see the rationale for destroying it after the 1930s if they left it untouched in the 1900 - 1918 period.

Also if such important monuments were destroyed so late as the post-1930s era, the people will remember. There are no oral histories of them being destroyed by the colonialists.

The pyramids disappeared because its custodians neglected to maintain it (after embracing Christianity and Westernisation), and in the humid tropical climate, mud structures don't last if not maintained.

You’re quite right.

Nezan:
O boy, why you dey vex?

Is it not jealousy?

mjuvey3:
Hilda baci ain't shit.

No. She’s THE shit. You get these silly, awful white people gaslighting these people to hell and back while they pattern themselves with baked beans and half-cooked scrambled eggs on a Tuesday evening and tribalistic Nigerians from other parts of the country laying into their ethnicity low-key (if it’s not envious Igbophobia it’s stereotypes about Ibom-Cross-River people and even some marginalisation) but at the end of the day the cooking show between afang, ofe-onugbu, coconut rice, nkwobi and beechwood-smoked jollof rice has to go on. No-one out-cooks Igbos and Calabars in Africa. No-one. And every Nigerian knows that deep-down, whether they admit it or not.

Only Calabar and Igbo people are capable of surviving in the kitchen bussing out such a variety of dishes that long (and not just in an African sense but across the globe). I guarantee it. Sha, we get wonderful Igbos and Akwa Ibom folks bussing out their food-hustles low-key and doing awesome tings all over the globe but reserve and/or humility (if they have that kind of social demeanour) and sometimes being overshadowed in number by other types of people won’t allow people get to know them well and have the measure of their phenomenal skills and capabilities. Or they are fully aware of just how good they are but envy won’t just have them admit it.

Jealous Yorubas, Edos, Hausas and Fulanis should step aside and shut their mouths. Their protracted ewedu, black soup and tuwo-shinkafa exploits are unknown.

That’s alright, then. As long as no precious yankee residents were hurt, ey?

I don’t cook for the world as-such (only visiting buddies/fam. and the people lucky enough to live with me at any one time if I’m not alone) I’m all for showcasing any type of food on request for the aesthetics if nowt-else. Which one do I cook for you people now?