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EducationRe: All ASUU Strike News::1st July-16th December 2013 by pseudonomer: 7:39am On Dec 09, 2013
Drazen99: To start with,i have nothing against the state owned university,the private university or the springing up university.but the fact still remains that more respect is still granted the federal universities.Do u have any idea how hard it takes to get admitted to the first generation federal universities?not saying its easier to get into state owned university but the former is harder.most employer of labour still think knowledge is still mostly imparted in the federal university.Just my two cents.
If UI offered you an admission to study microbiology and Nasarawa offered an admission to study Medicine. Which one would you rather go for?

Would you rather live on glory of others or let others live on your glory?

Nothing worth knowing can be taught, it can only be learned... I hope you understand my stand on this.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 7:19am On Dec 09, 2013
Oluwatola5: Hello!!! This is just the elimination stage and not the final stage, how then can i go on bragging? You were a tough one and i acknowledged at the end of the debate if you checked properly, the more we go on in the debate the tougher it gets, so how then will i see this one as an absolute victory? Infact, you saying that i am bragging shows that you dont have even the slightest idea about me.
I don't mean you the debaters, I meant your colleagues(schoolmates)... Not taking anything serious(just saying... Lolz)
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 9:37pm On Dec 08, 2013
Oluwatola5: You didnt make us win, rather our resilient team spirit did, correct that notion, afterall some schools won with lesser points, but we had 70, if our team work hadnt been good, mayhaps we could have won with just 60 against 55, abeg 70 no be beans, it isnt even the fact that we won you guys that matters here, check our team work and even our debate in totality, also our rebuttals, we arent a weak side and you know it. If you had been on, you guys team might have done well as us, or even better, but still that doesnt change the fact that we deserve the 70 we got... Winning or losing isnt my main priority anyway, all i need is having good points to remain in the competition, afterall Delsu defeated UI with 78points to 73, so both teams are assured of their remaining in the challenge irrespective of who won or who lost. Its just a game!!!
Seriously? It's just game... But get it at back of your mind you didn't face a tough opponent... Don't go on bragging. I only brag or become so proud if I successfully overcome a very tough challenge or got an A in ɑ very tough course. You guys won; Yes, you deserve to win...but you don't deserve a bragging right(lolz)
EducationRe: All ASUU Strike News::1st July-16th December 2013 by pseudonomer: 12:13pm On Dec 08, 2013
thisisayus: Is that a university?
Graduate with 2.1 from nasarawa and graduate with 2.2 from ife. When the job advert says 2.1 and above, then you'll know it's ur grade that matters not your school.
EducationRe: Federal University Of Agriculture, Abeokuta Aka FUNAAB 2013/2014 Admissions by pseudonomer(op): 12:00pm On Dec 08, 2013
And if you don't like too much crowd like me, don't rent an apartment at camp, go to Isolu, Eleweran, Somorin, Obantoko
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 8:17am On Dec 08, 2013
Damex333: I seriously need to apologise to everybody. Starting from pseudo, bro you know am xowie(though i av apologise to you personally, i will still do it here) am xowie 4 going off, to d organisers am xowie 4 going off, to d OAU GUYS, am xowie 4 not giving you guys d real me, to d audience, am xowie.
To those who nid explanation, here s it.
I was trying to puncture d first guy write up while walking on d road and i collided with a guy and my phone rolled into a pool of watery mud, wel i guess 5 or less than 5 skuls will be dropped so FUNAAB still surges on.
Pseudo the man with almost 40 out of 50. Baba you too much
It's nothing... it's just a game... I hope you're fine now. I just hate the way the OAU guys jumping over the thread like we've got a fair chance to win. I wish there's a second leg though(lolz).
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 6:52pm On Dec 07, 2013
cimetidine: Hmmmmmmm, could have prefered to lose in order for Chelsea to win. Anyways, Funnab, what's the scores?
You know you shouldn't be boosting... If my team-mate was fit, we would have won. Is like two against 1.5
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 6:41pm On Dec 07, 2013
[quote author=♥Dεs•Chγκσ♥]Minus the debater whom for some reasons didn't follow up his arguments, this was an evenly contested heated affair.. Kudos to the OAU team for braving this one and equal measure to the FUNAAB team for putting up a great fight...

TEAM OAU

OLUWATOLA
Commanding performance from you. Your presentation and performance at the rebuttals are really commendable. Team OAU is in good hands. However, you must bear in mind that the basic tool is communication. Your vocabulary bank is wonderful, so is your ability to convince the audience without confusing them. Minimize/Maximize the use to best effect. Welldone.

CIMETIDINE
I must appreciate the way you kept your work simple while driving home your points. Makes for easy read and understanding. However, your essay is quite too casual for its purpose. You have to proofread after typing and make your points stronger with good evidence. Good attempt.

In general, your team work combined to good effect, especially in your rebuttals. You both deserve unreserved commendations for seeing it all the way through. However, you must avoid answering questions with questions. It does you no good at all.

TEAM FUNAAB

PSEUDONOMER
Quite a flawless essay from you and your performance at the rebuttals was excellent, most especially, your direct answers and calm parries. However, the absence of a topic dealt a terrible blow to your essay. Keep it up.

DAMEX333
Well, your essay had the makings of a good write up, but the overall presentation was dismal, due to the absence of a proper introduction(topic) as well as conclusion, worsened by a scanty content. You MUST be more reliable to lift your team. Your late appearance shows committment though. Work on it.

In general, Team work is the watchword. Prepare well together and you may actually show your true strength. Welldone.[/quote]Thank you very much. Please, I want you explain better what you meant by "absence of a topic".
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 6:36pm On Dec 07, 2013
Gosh, I hate to lose... Even though I was very busy(attending to customers) during the debate, and my team mate was not in good shape which I see as the reason why we lost. Not happy though, we could have won. I pray we make it to the next round anyway.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 4:09pm On Dec 07, 2013
Davo93: Noted. Security men you say? Lol

Do you know the issue of security in some part of the nation is so worst that only a military reign can curb? If it takes this to protect Corp members, then that amounts to a huge cost in running the programme and mind you, that does not necessarily translate to total peace.

If you are suggesting redeployment, i think that affirms your opponents' proposition.
My opponent stance is NYSC posting should limited to their zone. They can actually avoid the few states that is less than 6, and still keep the posting into other regions.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 4:05pm On Dec 07, 2013
cimetidine: In view of all the above arguments, I'm so sure that FUNAAB and everyone is convinced that posting of NYSC members should be limited to their zones. Especially Damex333 who failed to argue nor deny our assertions. Thanks
No, Damex33 has some challenges. He couldn't make the debate.

And I will never agree the post corpers should be limited to their zones. It makes the essence of the NYSC void, or maybe you are trying to ask me if NYSC Programme should be eliminated?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 3:42pm On Dec 07, 2013
Davo93: Good Afternoon Ladies & Gentlemen,

I must commend the write-ups of the four debaters. They are wonderful especially that of Oluwatola5, quite persuassive!

My question goes to the first speaker of FUNAAB, Pseudonomer. You clearly told us that the killings of Corp members by the banned Islamic sect. in the North is part of sacrifice to the nation's unity.



Don't you think the lapses in the programme that could be corrected is the reason for those killings and not sacrifice as you paint it to be? and going by what Oluwatola suggested, don't you think a review of the programme will bring solace to this?

Also you referenced Madiba in your arguement. Don't you think it is better to die fighting for something that brings unity than being sent on a suicide mission to an unknown land? Remember, those Corp members didn't choose to go there themselves.

Thanks!
Thank you, I will say again, the states affected are few, the few states can be reinforced with security men guiding the few corp members that choose to serve there. You can still re-deploy if you want to, so no one is being sent on a suicide mission, and I think the Federal Government has stop deploying the corpers to the affected states recently. But making North serving in North and South to serve in South, I don't see any the need for the NYSC programme again.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 3:32pm On Dec 07, 2013
Omolola1: Indigenes serving in their home state will be better teachers than strangers that can't even communicate with the student naturally. So do we sacrifice the loss of life for the sole reason of learning new cultures? Mandela and others you mentioned fought for a general cause and was not built on sentiments. And you feel the bokoharam whose slogan is being against western education will spare any life of a corp member aiming 2 bring their desire down? This reasons as far as I'm concered is irrelevant.
I have friends and family that once served in the north, I can say what education there is like. The teachers is nothing to write about, if the corp members can give them standard education and improve their standards, I personally believe "Boko-Haram" will have a rethink about their loathe towards western education. If Yoruba is to serve at Yorubaland, Igbo to serve at Igboland, I will say NYSC should be scraped because the primary purpose has been lost.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 3:13pm On Dec 07, 2013
[quote author=♥Dεs•Chγκσ♥]@Pseudonomer: The intending Corpers have no say in where they will serve as the NYSC authorities do that. Talking about sacrifices, wouldn't you agree that the NYSC scheme is in truth, an outright violation of their right to live, by sacrificing Corpers against their will?[/quote]That's the essence of serving the country, when you serve your country there are some risk involved, that is why it is called self-less service. But I know the federal government is trying her best to secure the lives of the corp members.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:51pm On Dec 07, 2013
Oluwatola5: And i hope you are aware that the civil war ended a long time ago..
Come on, with the rate of tribalism on our nairaland here? The NYSC scheme was created after the civil war in order not to have another civil war again.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:35pm On Dec 07, 2013
Oluwatola5: Dont you think all these benefits are feasible ONLY if those communities are willing and ready to accept the NYSC members to impact in their lives. There is an adage that says ''you can force horse to a stream, but you can't force it to drink water''. Do you think those geo-political zones can be cowed to learn? Of course not! Learning and being accepted are two ball games entirely that shouldnt be mixed up for one another.
Are you trying to say the fight for one Nigeria doesn't worth it?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:33pm On Dec 07, 2013
cimetidine: @pseudonomer, Mandela just died sir and others you pointed out did not die the death of martyrs. They were jailed rather, there is a fine linen between Jails and death. After Mandela was jailed, he became South African's president. Can our slaughtered youths mount any challenge?
A lot of great men and women (Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jnr, and so on) lost their lives; some were jailed in a fight against race, tribe and gender discrimination.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:31pm On Dec 07, 2013
cimetidine: You mean the Boko boys that clearly detest Western Education needs Education? Or don't you know their main reason for their violence is what you just mentioned? And can you give me an instance where a corp member walked up to a boko haram member(as if we can identify them) to educate him and what is the result sir? Will adequate security ease the fear and tension already created in people? Will adequate security ease the transport fares when corp members are paid meagre sums? Brother, admit the fact that corp members should be posted to their home zones, and I will appreciate and respect you.
Good things are infectious, same goes with bad things. What I meant is that, "For examples, most corp members posted to the educational less developed states (EDLS) engaged in academics (teaching), which tend to improve the standard of education there, and increase the level of literacy."
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:16pm On Dec 07, 2013
Oluwatola5: Are you insinuating that sacrifices of lives would be required for a better Nigeria? Lets be realists and not idealists, what offence could be greater than wasting of lives? The fact that something is good doesnt make it good at every point in time. Things especially those involving a large number of people should be done in accordance with how best they suit the people it encompasses. In a situation whereby some zones have been noted for continious disdain against people from other zones, i think simple logics to prevent further havoc from being done should be an immediate one. NYSC posting scheme should be readjusted to their geo-political zones before other issues and ''benefits'' are even mentioned. Nigeria should look first into the issue of poor security that is seriously threatening the very fabric of our country. Methinks it is facetious and inappropriate in a time like this for us to say that the scheme shouldnt be readjusted simply because of its ''benefits''. Before we even mention any ''benefit'' whatsoever, we should look at the risk of lives that is at hand and face it first, not puttting the cart before the wheel. Nigeria's government and the NYSC management should first ensure that all parameters have been put in place to check the excesses of some geo-political zones BUT pending the time, no more life should be wasted, the posting should be limited to their political zones.
It is not the benefit, it is the primary purpose why the scheme is created. The states affected is not up to 8 states, the few states affected can be excluded if needs to. But posting corp members to their geo-political zone is absurd with the primary purpose of the programme.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 2:05pm On Dec 07, 2013
cimetidine: @pseudonomer, you clearly pointed out that we should sacrifice because of unity to reign, don't you feel the lives of precious souls and future giants being butchered in the north is too much a sacrifice? Don't you feel for the parents of such corp members? Don't you think there are alternatives to posting corp members to dreary areas. If you insist, i however suggest that anybody bent on learning the culture of other tribes can decide to school in such places i.e an Osun indigene can school at UNIMAID for his or her undergraduate or postgraduate, another alternative is to employ the service of search engines like google to get the idea of such cultures. What do you think sir?
If we choose to neglect those areas, and will allow them to continue in their folly ways, do you think very soon, we are going to regret that decision? In one of Asa's song title "Fire on the mountain" there's a line that says" ....One day, the river will over flow, and we'll run, run, wishing we had quenched the fire" I believe beheading someone that has headache is not the solution to the pain, in the real sense, it worsen it. Those poor souls(the "Boko-Harams"wink needs education, and the corp members posted there are doing a great job to increase the level of literacy there. What I will suggest is adequate security.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 1:54pm On Dec 07, 2013
Miscellaneous: Damex33 . .where art thou ?
Damex33 has some challenges, you can his post... he just lost his iPhone, but will be available soon.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate::winner: OAU by pseudonomer: 1:16pm On Dec 07, 2013

Posting of National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) members should be limited to their geo-political zone? I will say no that. Agreeing to that is equivalent to agreeing to scrape the NYSC scheme because the purpose of the scheme is primarily to inculcate in Nigerian Youths the spirit of selfless service to the community, and to emphasize the spirit of oneness and brotherhood of all Nigerians, irrespective of cultural or social background. The history of our country since independence has clearly indicated the need for unity amongst all our people, and demonstrated the fact that no cultural or geographical entity can exist in isolation. If we are to look at its main objectives which are: To develop common ties among the Nigerian youths, promote national unity and integration, remove prejudices, eliminate ignorance and confirm at first hand the many similarities among Nigerians of all ethnic groups, develop a sense of corporate existence and common destiny of the people of Nigeria, you will have no choice but disagree with posting of National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) members to be limited to their geo-political zone.

"Corp" members are posted to cities far from their city of origin. They are expected to mix with people of other tribes, social and family backgrounds, to learn the culture of the local people in the place they are posted to. This action is aimed to bring about unity in the country and to help youths appreciate other ethnic groups. But if they are posted to their geo-political zone, then they main objective of the NYSC scheme will be lost.

For example, I have an elder brother who is from Ekiti State that served in Kwara state, when he came back from service (NYSC) some few years back; he gave me the full gist of his experience there, how the people there are so friendly, how he came about to learn new things and acquire new culture. He told about me a common food there called “Kunnu” that he fell in love with. When it was time for him to leave the State, he could not help it but shed tears because he so much loved the people around there and they are so kind to him. In fact, he’s living there right now, married a lady from Kwara state, and he established a cocoa industry there.
Posting Corp members to other geo-political zone aside from theirs can also bring about a rapid development to the country. For examples, most corp members posted to the educational less developed states (EDLS) engaged in academics (teaching), which tend to improve the standard of education there, and increase the level of literacy. The medical members are involved in health related services, which tends to improve the healthcare of the people of the state.

My opponents may want to argue that some corp members are usually slaughtered by the terrorist group called “Boko-Haram” when posted to some areas in the north of Nigeria. I want to say every scheme and programmes have its challenges and to build a great nation, to have one Nigeria, we all have sacrifices to make, and this is one of the sacrifices we are to make if we really want a One Nigeria. A lot of great men and women (Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jnr, and so on) lost their lives; some were jailed in a fight against race, tribe and gender discrimination. In fact, if the Federal Government can post the corp members (with adequate security) to the EDLS which includes the “Boko-Haram” territory, it will serve as one of the solution to curb the problem of the “Boko-Haram” terrorism in Nigeria. Let me explain this, I believe illiteracy and ignorance is the key behind the success of the “Boko-Haram” terrorist group. The “Boko-Haram” territory state are lacking qualified and adequate teachers to train their kids in the secondary which brings about the high rate of illiteracy there, so if this corp members are deployed there (with adequate security), they can re-orientate the youths, and let them know the value of education, and also raise the education standard there.

If we remember, the NYSC scheme was created in a bid to reconstruct, reconcile and rebuild the country after the Nigerian Civil war. The unfortunate antecedents in our national history gave impetus to the establishment of the National Youth Service Corps by decree No.24 of 22nd May 1973 which stated that the NYSC is being established "with a view to the proper encouragement and development of common ties among the youths of Nigeria and the promotion of national unity". It is no longer news that some tribalist are clamoring for Nigeria to divide, but the good thing in my view to keep one Nigeria. The NYSC scheme is one the Federal Government programmes that is still fighting to foster the unity among the other tribes of this nation. So would you rather want Nigeria to divide?

REFERENCES:
NYSC: About the Scheme, http://www.nysc.gov.ng/about/about.php
Objectives Of The Scheme, http://www.nysc.gov.ng/about/objectives.php
Wikipedia: National Youth Service Corps, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Youth_Service_Corps
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 1:02pm On Dec 07, 2013
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EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 10:05am On Dec 07, 2013
NAME: PSEUDONOMER
SCHOOL: FUNAAB
SPEAKER: CHIEF SPEAKER
TOPIC: POSTING OF NATIONAL YOUTH SERVICE CORPS (NYSC) MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THEIR GEO-POLITICAL ZONES
STANCE: OPPOSING
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 9:02pm On Dec 06, 2013
Fynestboi: OAU AND FUNAAB



LAUTECH and NU




oya make una come out ooo
I will be available for tomorrow's debate(FUNAAB).
EducationRe: Federal University Of Agriculture, Abeokuta Aka FUNAAB 2013/2014 Admissions by pseudonomer(op): 8:24pm On Dec 04, 2013
Damex333: the debate s saturday o, i hope you guys have ur points on o. They need two participant 4rm each skul o
I have my write-ups ready... Maybe should discuss via e-mail and make necessary corrections.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 8:20pm On Dec 04, 2013
boay: OAU appraisal recieved

FUNAAB where art thou?
You mean like school anthem?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by pseudonomer: 9:15pm On Dec 02, 2013
I'm here, representing FUNAAB.
EducationRe: Federal University Of Agriculture, Abeokuta Aka FUNAAB 2013/2014 Admissions by pseudonomer(op): 9:00pm On Dec 02, 2013
Damex333: Abeg who help me see pseudo and sanguine sir
I'm here bro... Your number ain't going through...
EducationRe: Federal University Of Agriculture, Abeokuta Aka FUNAAB 2013/2014 Admissions by pseudonomer(op): 10:10am On Nov 30, 2013
What's up guys... I've been busy with coding in python. How's the debate stuff?
EducationRe: Nairaland Reports: Nigerians React To Fg Order On Reopening Of Universities by pseudonomer: 9:25am On Nov 29, 2013
Why can't the government sign the written agreement? I smell ɑ foul play here... If ASUU suspend the strike without achieving their aim. I'll be more than angry with ASUU. The Politicians have no integrity to protect, they've never been true to the promises, the same promises made when campaigning for ɑ political post. They are all bunch of liars. ASUU been aware of this requested for ɑ written and signed document of the agreement, the next step of the FG is to force things, which is automatically equal to, they are not going to do anything about the agreement.
EducationRe: Nairaland Reports: Nigerians React To Fg Order On Reopening Of Universities by pseudonomer: 9:24am On Nov 29, 2013
Why can't the government sign the written agreement? I smell ɑ foul play here... If ASUU suspend the strike without achieving their aim. I'll be more than angry with ASUU. The Politicians have no integrity to protect, they've never been true to the promises, the same promises made when campaigning for ɑ political post. They are all bunch of liars. ASUU been aware of this requested for ɑ written and signed document of the agreement, the next step of the FG is to force things, which is automatically equal to, they are not going to do anything about the agreement.

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