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Toyolad: Isaiah 45:6
"....Men may knw there is none beside me.I am d lord and there's no oda"

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The Qu'ran says: La Ilaha Illalah. there is no God but Allah, and Mohammad(pbuh) is His last messenger.

Isaiah 45:7
"I form d light and create darkness;I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I,D Lord,do all these things"

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This simply shows that there is either no God or no Satan. And if there is God, He isn't all-loving. Give me the power of omnipotence for a minute and i will eradicate malaria, HIV/AIDS and cancer atleast.

Isaiah 45:9
"Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker,to him who is but a potsherd among d potsherds on d ground.
Does d clay say to d potter 'what are u making?'
Does ur work say,'He has no hands?'

What are you saying? That doesn't make any sense. Are human beings like potsherd? We are human beings and gast to reason things out. If he(God) didn't want us to ask questions and be inquisitive, He could simply have made us so. I do not have any semblance with a robot, i don't know about you.

alexleo: And assuming we accept that all these are ideas of men.

Dude, you miss the point. Atheism is not the idea(s) of men. Atheism is inherent/innate. No new born child knows any God(s). Anybody that can reason without fear, emotions and indoctrinations, comes to the realisation that death is just natural. For whatsoever has a beginning must have an end, just natural.

BTW, I have not seen many proud atheists. Your next door neighbour might be an atheist and you would not know. Silence is golden.

Reiyvinn: You keep talking of "path." Dude, Atheism is NOT a belief!! It's a LACK OF belief.

Lemme define Atheism:

Having no reason to believe in the existence of a god.

Got that?!

That guy makes me laugh. If he says atheism is a religion/belief, then abstinence is a s.ex position.

Dapo777: I was hypnotized?

Reiyvinn: hmmmmmmm!! That may have been the word I was looking for!!

Hypnosis sounds more like a magical art. It is most likely "hysteria". Excessive hysteria. Overwhelmed.

freethinker01: Is he actually willing to answer prayers but unable to. My over more than two decades on earth, oddly enough those things i pray for don't usually come my way. I could remember a particular incident in which burglars came to our house when i was 8 years old, i did everything almost right except being very playful which is inherent in most kids. So that night, i prayed to god to please if at all the burglars gain entrance into our house which they eventually did that he shouldn't let them touch any of my family members. Omo the rest na story oo, a scary one that wouldn't wanna hear tho'. Well, after the incident, we shrugged it off and moved on. And at this juncture in my life,i looked @ my life in retrospect and realised does he even give a shit 'bout me? with all happenings and incidents all over the world and my personal experience has obviously shown there's no god, let alone the one that answers prayer.

Why not consider "Deism"?

Reiyvinn: ?
If I were a traveler taking an unknown route, I'd be very glad to follow those signs but when there are too many signs showing contradictory directions at the same time Do the maths....

You ignore all of them.
They are scare tactics to instigate fear (which is a very bad emotion).

In any case, i do not even know where i was before i was born. Why should i bother myself with where i'll be after-death? I'll probably go back to where i came from- Oblivion.

Toyolad: My oh my!!..these atheists are always talkin abt God(who they dnt believe in).

what I've observed, is dat weneva they are arguing abt d existence or non_existence of God,1 tin is always hovering at d back of deir minds nd dat is:they want to be proven wrong nd they are searching for dat person who will prove beyond doubt to dem dat dere's God.

Knowing God nd knwin d truth abt Him requires dat u go spiritual..dere are some mysteries ur canal knwledge can't nd won't get to d root of no mata who u are....#i Pray God gives u d wisdom to understand his ways....#plus,dnt study d bible if u knw d motive of u doing so is to criticize it,pray for divine understanding frm above

My oh my... And you are always looking out for atheists (who you regard as fools).

Nobody seeks your rebuttal (not even sure you're capable of giving any).
This is Nairaland forum, everybody is entitled to his/her opinion. You either accede to an opinion or you go contrary, in either case, no qualm. Just know that everybody will not believe what you believe.

Dinzelflash: explain how

Your fuss sounds materialistic, to me though.

Check out this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1792791/questions-baffle-me-god

Preposterous!

JMAN05: According to which books? Omniscience is not found in the bible, we only explain what God is based on what we read about Him in the scriptures. Omniscience is either inherent or total. From the scriptures, we can infer He is inherently omniscient.

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

Hebrews 4:13
And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Matthew 10:30
But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.

Revelations 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

1 John 3:19-20
By this we shall know that we are of the truth and
reassure our heart before him; for whenever our
heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart,
and he knows everything.

From this little explanation, don't you think is wise to conclude that God never predestined everything?

Isaiah 46:9
I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done.

davidylan: I have no idea why people waste their time with this type of unnecessary wavering. If you want to be a sinner, please do so with all pleasure. If you want to be a true child of God, then do so. All these "i'm not sure, well maybe, i try, i'm confused, for now i'm good" is hogwash. Even the bible is quite plain... the christian journey is all about choice... all the time you could be spending being a full blown sinner should not be wasted confusing yourself that you're living a "Christ-like" life when in fact you're no better than a murderer (all sin is sin). A "Christ-like" life is one of purpose and complete devotion to the gospel of salvation... not one that is filled with confused misdirection.

Here comes the tyrant fundamentalist... dylan, though hypocritical.

nora544: I am a catholic and I learn latin in the school.

it is from the Order of Saint Benedict and the full words are „Ora et labora et lege“ in english pray and work and read

What is the essence of prayer when one still needs to work?

And what is the essence of work when everything has been predestined?

Mprex: sounds like what an arrogant igbo guy would say. Are you one?

Must you display your tribal jingoism everywhere?

Apatheist: Op didn't show her front.

I like her backside

Apatheist: Nothing like mermaids.

The lady in the picture is fine.
#Melikey

It's a competitive industry. All strategies have to be employed!

Sammy Hoe: Give your life to GOD

And if he refuses to give his life to your God, what will happen? His account will get deleted?

mtcheew.

torchwave: You know, syntax and sentence construction is not a yardstick of experience and knowledge.
So typical of atheists. They never fall short of the expectation to turn any peaceful forum of discussion into a battlefield of bloodless verbal war.

WTF! Why the lame generalization?

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Mathew 10: 22"You will be hated by all because of
My name, but it is the one who has endured to the
end who will be saved. 23"But whenever they
persecute you in one city, flee to the next; for truly
I say to you, you will not finish going through the
cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes.


The signs of the end-time have been happening since the world began.

Deep Sight: For the truly initiated, there is no doubt that life is indeed a collective dream.

It is also true that death is the waking point.

The collective dream does have a purpose and that is the building of self conscious beings who will, in the after - reality, have god like capabilities.

Nevertheless, the initiator of this particular process, what most people imagine is God, is kinda psyco. Very perverted. One has to hope to graduate to being a better god than the god that created this dream. When it's time, please create a better dream.

Lol.
Baba DeepSight don vex o!

Weah96: Lots of holes in that story. I believe the writer was drunk himself.

Actually, the entire book is filled with lotta holes and immoralities.

The foundation is beset with despicable anger. Imagine blaming the sins of Adam on me (a man i don't even know nor did see).

Ubenedictus: Jesus did die.
He didn't kill him self.

John 10:17-18 NIV

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life--only to take it up again.

No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.".

beejaay: its called SONPANA

Lol

The religionists worship a God of the gaps. Whatever they can't fathom, they term it God. What a bad hypothesis!

The invention of the word "soul" is to represent what the medieval men thought to be the consciousness of man. Since they knew little about the internal biological system of man.

My great grand Pa worshipped "the God of Malaria". I've forgotten it's name in the local dialect.

Weah96: How do you, a mere mammal like me, know so much? You don't even know this much about Goodluck Jonathan and he's always on TV.

By constantly configuring his mind to rationalize religious illogicalities!

Reiyvinn: The first humans most probably were moved by the loss of a loved one and tried to believe that their death wasn't the end for them and that they may meet again somewhere; a source of consolation, a rise to religion.

Cool.

Your matter (your role in the energy pyramid) goes on a cycle and is not destroyed..... The only thing that is probably lost is your consciousness; you're no longer aware of anything as you were when alive because the organ responsible for such awareness (the brain) has served a good dinner to maggots and prolly scavengers and is no more......

On point!! We are all part of this great ecosystem.

Thanks

You are welcome.
But, still open your mind to more knowledge, if there be proof and reason.

alexleo: Faith is not being hopeful. You ve not experienced faith that's why it doesn't make sense to you. Those who live a faith based life knows that it makes sense in everyway. Carry your logic and park well. No logic can make more sense to me than what I experienced. Experience remains the best teacher.

Okay.

Lord_Reed: Hunger does not recognize history. You ate yesterday and the day before, will you quieten your appetite with that information?

On point! I must commend

benswagtt: dude.. I didnt attack anybody ooo

Ok

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alexleo: What you don't know and have not experienced doesn't make sense to you so that's your business.

I have experienced faith. So, stop projecting. I don't wish to derail this thread.

My life is faith based. Faith works for me very well. Faith makes sense in every way to me. You are not the benchmark to determine what should make sense to other people.

Faith is simply being hopeful, sometimes, expecting wonders and illogic. ---

benswagtt: I jst dey observe trash of peeps wey tink say dem sabi... Mtcheeeeew!!!

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Nobody here claims to know everything. We are just airing our views. If you are e-introverted, that's your issh.
Pls do sort out yourself and don't come here to spew your frustration and depression.