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eastOFwest:
Pick your partner carefully or else you will learn the hard way. Nor be by big yansh or boobs or "I like his height" or his complexion or "we look good together".

Only people born with a silver spoon have the luxury of marrying (or divorcing) anyhow they like, and even that is a risk. For those that have to build something, making the right decisions at the right time is very crucial. I can't emphasise this point enough. Having a partner that you can bounce ideas off, with pragmatic feedback is more than a million dollars. Someone that complements your vision and fills in the gaps for you. Not someone who complements your style or looks

But you have no way of knowing this until you're already in the marriage. Also, people change and people can deceive you as to who they really are till long after marriage. So eventually it boils down to luck. But I gave you a like anyway because you have a point

DMerciful:
Obi won the South, go and verify.

Buhari asked Mahmmud to make sure Tinubu wins 3 days to election. This is insider knowledge

Do you know what is South? How many states are in the South and how many did Obi win?

Really? That's why he asked Emefiele to change Naira so Tinubu can't use his massive stockpile of Naira? Do you think Buhari would have lost Abuja or Lagos if he was running? You don't understand - people who'd conduct and call the elections would lose their jobs if the president lost

DMerciful:
How did Obi win the South in 2023 without any single elected official?

One, he didn't win the South. He won Lagos and Abuja. Two, the president (who appointed everybody) was not running and did not want Tinubu as president

DMerciful:
This ticket will definitely be victorious

Yeah, but how will they get past all these powerful Tinubu appointees who'd lose their jobs if they get elected, and these powerful people heavily invested in continuation of Tinubu presidency?

Truthseeker10:
ok😂.....thank you.

U quite welcome. He was EXACTLY same as Moses except that he was sinless and interchangeable with God

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher here. Tell us.

No sir, I already said humans lack the capacity to fully grasp the nature of God - except you. So go ahead and teach us

MaxInDHouse:
That is what a born again Christian (Peter) said o! Act 3:22

Is this the same Peter that confessed Christ in Matthew 16:16-17 or another one?

sonmvayina:
All this stories were written after Nicaea, probably by Eusebius the master forger. He is the one who wrote the history of the church. In it, he even said he never cared about the truth, he was only concerned with making a people believe.

This is what Isaiah wrote....this is what you get when you follow a mistranslated version.

Did Eusebius also make up Edict of Milan? Persecution of Christians? Gradual conversion of Constantine's household and generals until he was odd man out? Other churches outside Rome and Paul's letters to them? That Eusebius can write oo! What other masterpieces did he produce? And who commissioned him or what was his motive to do this master work? It can't be the emperor because he wrote that the emperor was no god at all but just another lowly sinner in need of salvation. It can't be Rome because he wrote that all their mighty gods were trash and that they cruelly crucified his master creation, Jesus! So who exactly commissioned this our genius?

As for Isaiah, go study ALL his writings and other prophets and come tell us it was all about Hezekiah (see below). Example, when he prophesied this about JohnTB:
“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.’”

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MaxInDHouse:
John explained no man has seen God at any time but Jesus through his words, thought and actions explained God {John 1:18} this means all the qualities of God could be seen in Jesus because unlike other prophets who were imperfect humans Jesus is a perfect being like the first man Adam {1Corinthans 15:45} so he possessed all the qualities we need to see in God just as Adam had before he rebelled against God. Luke 3:38


Preparing the way for Jehovah (LORD in KJV) means it's time for the Jews to know all the qualities of God through the Christ not that Christ is Jehovah.
Remember who has not known Christ has not known all the qualities of God! John 1:18

You write all this about Jesus yet somehow JW still have you believing He was just a prophet (messenger, servant) like Moses. Which of these qualities did Moses possess? Did Moses ever come close to saying anything like these about himself? Would he even allow anybody to say any of these about him?

As for John TB, nope, by "Lord" he was referring specifically to Jesus. He then went on to say he was not fit to untie His shoes. Study that chapter. This was a mighty prophet they were saying was Elijah saying he was not fit to untie another prophet's shoes. Does that make sense to you?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said he is one with God because it was difficult for his listeners to believe in his teachings which contradicts the actions of former prophets.
So for them to know that God is behind Jesus he performed the greatest miracles ever recorded in the Bible.

That word "One with God" simply means he has God's backing not that he is the same as God.

The assignment given to John is what he said it's from heaven not John the son of Zachariah while Jesus has no human father.

He also said once you've seen him you've seen the Father and the Father was in Him and He in the Father. Not only did no other prophet come close to saying that but if you said that about any other prophet he'd curse you for trying to bring a curse on him.

As for John the Baptist, read Mathew 3:3 about him --
This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the LORD,
make straight paths for him.’”
Note, LORD not prophet.
Also, what sort of prophet is another prophet not fit to untie His shoes??

MaxInDHouse:
It's not a must you argue simply because of the dogma you were taught from childhood.
Jesus was a PROPHET in the manner of Moses doesn't mean Moses is also from heaven.
All humans are from the lineage of Adam that's why we were all born in sin and as for John the baptist who told you he is from heaven?

I'm not arguing, I'm only asking questions. How come Moses and every other prophet run from being seen as as one with God but Jesus ran towards it. How come non of them ever said the kind of things about themselves that Jesus was saying about Himself -"I am the only way to God". They all direct you to the way, Christ said He Himself was the way.

Have you forgotten John the Baptist said he was sent (from heaven) to prepare the way for the Lord and that he was no fit to untie His shoes?

PROPEACE:
I actually had a beautiful plan. I wanted to delve into environmental science. I wanted to be a researcher. I thought I will easily get a lecturing job and proceed with my PhD. Wakkahi I somehow got stuck. There are actually things I didn't do right due to misinformation and lack of information, else I would have left a long time ago

As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face. I read many people regretting studying Architecture. I'm sure they all also had a plan. Who/what inspired you to study it?

Britishpea:
Amen. Long life is yours! Try to take care of your health.
However, mistakes are parts of life. Sometimes, it elongates life. There is a reason for everything. We human should begin to understand that life is circular. You could be in the UK, became successful in some ways but may have lost your life 5 years back!

Or he could have been "successful" and ended up a suicide

sonmvayina:
All these stories were told to you by Christians/Catholic. Everything is forged.
Isaiah 9 that you quoted, I don't think you even read it yourself. You won't have even referenced it.
"For to us A child is born"
The child has already been born. Infact he was 6 years old when Isaiah wrote those. Isaiah was already seeing the child. He was a young boy....he would be future king. He would rule probability after his father died and there would be peace during his reign.....
The person in question is future KING HEZEKIAH his father was king Ahaz, who was hated.

Wow, I never knew history books were also made up by Rome - and people actually study history, not knowing everything was made up by Rome. Who exactly in Rome made them up? Or did they have a conference of Roman senators and agreed to invent Jesus and history? They could not agree on anything except inventing Jesus!

But nobody ever called Hezekiah Mighty God, everlasting Father, and his kingdom did not last forever

MaxInDHouse:
Well if you must know he is Archangel Michael!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus came from heaven means he is one of God's Spirit Sons in heaven an angel!

OK, and you say he's exactly like Moses. Is Moses also Archangel Michael?
And how about John the Baptist? Remember he also came from heaven

jayce232:
How is this a mistake?

ANYTHING can be a mistake. Reading this thread tells you that.
I'm sure some are regretting NOT relocating to Nigeria as we speak

PROPEACE:
I worked for a while for an architectural consultancy firm, it folded up during Buhari's regime and I currently freelance as an architect. I just recently started investing in non architecture-related ventures in hope of building much wealth and venturing in the future into real estate.

Don't feel bad. Most who study architecture end up regretting even in UK

Gabrielshow24:
The 'sheepish narrative' they have cannot clearly define the concept "God" hence they have a problem with Jesus being God🤕. Which makes them conflate identity with nature🤔.

The narrative JW have is that Christ is an angel, noticeably Michael 🤔; now they run into problems very quickly! Without even using scriptures just basic logic they have problems reconciling the preeminence of Christ over the rest(angels). A certain elder from them decided to create the first set theory 👀(Primus conventus) which states that these 'archangels' were the first set of angels to interact with God👀, which also runs into another problem because it assumes that Angels were not made at the same time or they were made in batches😀—A lovely fallacious reconciliation with the scripture, ' all things were made by Jesus' yet this theory falls flat🤕, very flat, Indeed! Upon deeper analysis.

Also, the law of non-contradiction 😂 doesn't favor their narratives 🤧. The character of Jesus on earth conflicts greatly with the warlike dispositions of Michael 👀— which will warrant men to call Jesus an hypocrite for encouraging peace🤔 while he didn't 'turn the left cheek' in heaven👀.

This also squashes their absolute statement of "No true christian will take up arms". In all, it reduces their conclusion to a mere false Equivocation! You could also say, 'Why didn't they say Jesus is a winnowers fan because he was written coming with one?'😁 As a subtle reply to their 'coming with the voice of an Archangel' rhetoric🤧 and to finish it off, you can totally squash their allusions by using the extreme of their argument —seeing it is centred on 'Jesus being an angel'—to conclude that God, himself, is a messenger of himself😂 which they can never have a rebuttal for. Any response from them will be met with simple questions and they will be forced to either evade or avoid these questions, totally!

All in all without typing too much because of this despot of a bot😂. You get the gist.

Another one is that he is exactly like Moses. I don't know who comes up with this stuff for them

sonmvayina:
The Messiah the Jewish prophet spoke about is a man from the line of David through Solomon his son. Not a demi god. So the the prophecy was not talking about Jesus. The Messiah is coming to rule. He will be crowned king and be anointed with a special oil as part of his coronation . He is not coming to die for sins. God already gave them the solution to the problem of sin. Jesus was never king. The two contradictory genealogies in Mathew and Luke can never produce a Messiah.
Jesus was a Roman Catholic invention QED.

sonmvayina:
All these stuff are what Christianity is saying. They are not what the Jews imply when they talk about a Messiah.
There is no second coming arrangements in the Tanakh. Christianity is rebranded paganism nothing more. The worship of Lucifer and her son(mother and child) nothing more.
God hates human sacrifice, he even hates animal sacrifice....what he wants us to sacrifice is our ego....confess and forsake our sins, he would forgive. When he sent Jonah to Nineveh, they repented, he forgave them. No animal sacrifice. That is sufficient for God.

(A Roman invention that trashed their cherished gods and made their god-emperor just another sinful man needing salvation!)

I must assume you've never heard of Isaiah 9.
Here it is below. You didn't answer my question as to wether all those other things were also myths: from persecution of Christians by Rome to Constantine’s mother becoming Christian to Edict of Milan. Here's a Isaiah 9. Note the bolded.

For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.

sonmvayina:
A myth...has anybody considered that?

OK, are you saying the OT is a myth, all the prophecies about the comming Messiah a myth, his rejection by the Jews a myth, his crucifixion a myth, persecution of Christians by Rome a myth, conversion of many Romans to Christianity a myth, Edict of Milan that decriminalize Christianity a myth, Nicene conference a myth? Where exactly does this your myth start and end?

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah for them o, i should believe those who accused and killed Jesus based on false accusations!

But you believe Jesus said he was one with God, and that once you've seen him you've seen God. Who else has said anything close to that in Jewish history, and how far is that from saying he's same as God?

MaxInDHouse:
What they thought nah!

You believe Jesus existed before Adam (just like he told the Jews) and therefore came from heaven, and believing that, here's what you wrote:

"So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak."

Truthseeker10:
What is the Hebrew word for God in Genesis 1:26. In 1 Samuel 1:7, Why was plural used for Dagon.

Why not tell us since you're one human who fully understands the nature of God

Truthseeker10:
😂😂Jesus was one with God meant that he was equal to God?

🤣😅🤣😅 No, it meant He was same as Moses

Truthseeker10:
plural in what sense?

"Let US make man in OUR image"

Truthseeker10:
Oga where did Jesus himself say what they implied? You are telling me to believe the same people who accused Jesus wrongly to the point of killing him?

OK, it's settled, Jesus never implied He was one with God. He said he was just like Moses, Elijah, and others. Happy now?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂oga what are you saying?

I'm saying pepple who saw and heard Jesus directly will know what he meant better than someone reading it in a different language 1000's of years later after multiple interpretations and manipulatons

MaxInDHouse:
The problem with you people is thinking whoever keeps quiet while you're talking has been convinced of what you said but most just remain silent to allow you take your leave.
Conviction lies in the fruit of a teaching. Matthew 7:16-18
Jesus is one of God's creations but he is always in support of God's will that's why he said himself and his father are one just as all his disciples with himself and his father are one! John 17:22

Is this not what you said exactly: "God's Son which makes him divine"?
Or are you changing your mind again?

Gabrielshow24:
It's not overthinking, it's complete brainwashing 🤔. Both JW guys have the intellect of toddlers, now that I think of it, that's an insult to Toddlers🤔. Truthseeker10 appears wise by using Aristotelian inquisition techniques but ends up foolish in its delivery 🤕. What then is the point?

The other guy, gohf just like to stick to his personal biased view of Jesus 'not being God' yet he can't provide a definition of God that doesn't fit Jesus within 🤨, dilemma!

Don't bother about them, they have eyes they can't see and their minds are devoid of wisdom 🤨.

I was just banned again by anti-bot. I'm beginning to think it is intentional - to prevent people posting too much.
You analyzed it well

RealityKings1:
Liar? do you know me?
the experiences are shapes how we integrate.
what i mean by integrate in a social context, means to mix with and join society or a group of people, often adapting to their way of life

All I know is, you said you wouldn't change anything. And I know that's not true. If you had a chance you'd change some things. We all would