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MaxInDHouse:
What is your answer, YES or NO?

I'll answer for him with a question:
Did JohnTB lie when he said he was not Elijah?

MaxInDHouse:
Peter told his listeners while preaching that Jesus is a SERVANT of God! Act 3:13

English don hard our boy o.
Addressing somebody is not same as talking about the person.
Peter addressed Jesus as "Son of the living God"
If he were addressing Moses he'd have said "You are servant of the living God"

Here's how you ADDRESS somebody:
Mathew 16:16
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, THE Son of the living God.”

MaxInDHouse:
Well we are TALKING about Jesus here not ADDRESSING him nah!

I said nobody ever ADDRESSED Jesus as a servant. Peter addressed him as THE Son.

Ebubu:
I know everything you think I don't know but you don't know anything about Pharmacists.

I know Pharmacists didn't go to medical school, neither do they treat nor diagnose patients, nor write prescriptions.
Also getting into medical school is extremely competitive - I don't see any child say "I want to be a pharmacist when I grow up!"😁

Ebubu:
It seems you are now aware.

What Doctors do that you call learning is "Residency".

Pharmacists in hospitals do it too.

If you don't have close people as Pharmacists, ask questions. The Pharmacists who don't don't it are Pharmacists in Community Retail Pharmacies. The Pharmacists in Industrial setting manufacturing drugs go ahead to obtain a Ph.D in Drug origins and research. Pharmacists in Hospital do Residency (in Anti retroviral, Obstetrics and Gynecology, Oncology, et cetera), Pharmacists in Hospital also enrol for West African Consultancy Education. So what do you mean Pharmacists don't commence post first degree learning in Hospital sector ? If you don't know ask questions, I am a Pharmacist and my kid sister is a Medical Doctor, My kid brother is a Medical Doctor, My brother in law married to my sister is a Medical Doctor. And what you call low income work while learning for Doctors is a fat lie. That income during Residency learning is still the highest among his peers in the medical line including Pharmacists, so what do you mean low income earning? Is 500k plus a month low to you? Be mindful.

I know everything you think I don't know but you don't know anything about Pharmacists.

I have both pharmacists and doctors. The doctors I know continued their training through residency, the pharmacists I know, graduation was the end. They then found a job with some company or govt

MaxInDHouse:
Except the apostle Jesus called "the rock" Act 3:22

English don hard our boy o.
Addressing somebody is not same as talking about the person.
Peter addressed Jesus as "Son of the living God"
If he were addressing Moses he'd have said "You are servant of the living God"
Besides, this was something as remembered by someone, then passed along person to person until it reached the person decades later who finally wrote it down, then it was severally translated and modified. Error could have crept in at any moment. That's why you can't cherrypick the Bible. It has to be taken as a whole

Janosky:
Yes.
@ Acts 3:13 the Greek word for SERVANT is the same word for SON /Child @ Acts 4:27 @Acts 3:26 @ Acts 4:30.
Jesus Christ is always SON/Servant.

Janosky:
@ Acts 3:13 the Greek word for SERVANT is the same word for SON /Child @ Acts 4:27 @Acts 3:26 @ Acts 4:30.
Jesus Christ is always SON/Servant.

Oga, pls let the holy scriptures amend your viewpoint.
Shalom.
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Janosky:
Oga, why nau?
Pls use the screenshot evidence of the holy Scriptures (Acts 3:13. Acts 3:26. Acts 4:27 . Acts 4:30) to amend your viewpoints.
Jesus Christ admitted himself is a Servant, Matthew 12:15-18, he quoted from the prophet Isaiah.

Janosky:
A divine being is a god or godlike.
That is the actual meaning.
Jesus is a god !
Screenshot evidence.

Janosky:
Every being sent from heaven to minister on earth is an angel.

The screenshot evidence says it all.

Janosky:
John 14:24 is Jesus expression explaining for your bolded comment.

He is NOT saying "he's same as God. "

Funny thing is, you write all this yet you accept that Jesus is THE Son of God and was with God b4 creation, YET you still try to equate Him with Moses and others!

MaxInDHouse:
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. Act 3:13

You are the one cherry picking because i never argued that Jesus is not God's Son but you are the one claiming he is not God's servant whereas it's boldly written in God's word!

😅This is beyond cherry-picking, this is more like ridiculously looking for needle in haystack. David, Moses, etc constantly called themselves servants and are constantly called servants by others. No one ever addressed Jesus as servant. Instead He was confessed as Son of God and He said that was 100% correct!
Now, Ezekiel was also constantly called "Son of man". Someone like you will cherrypick that as proof he was same as Christ!

Jman06:
Your ignorance is still glaring from your post. You're not 'overseas" obviously! In the US, Canada, Australia etc, they bear the Dr title, with Pharm.D added to indicate their field.

See lying o. Go to a pharmacy in US and call the pharmacist "doctor" and see if people won't look at you like crazy. See below

I wouldn't mind trying what this guy has been smoking😅🤣

LabStores:
Lol
Dey play
What doctors are fighting for is not just the title in my opinion. They are also fighting for responsiblity and VALUE! How much of responsibilities does a pharmacist have compared to a doctor in hospital settings? How much of value do they give?
Yes, pharmacists study a lot to get their title, but what do they use it to do at the end of the day in terms of responsibilities in the hospital settings?
Do they work as much as the doctors? If you agree they don't, why should they earn more as the doctors?
And we all know they don't even study as much as MBBS do...
Will you say it's because they went through complex and long training too to become pharmacists, so they should earn equally too?
What about the engineers too? I don't even think pharmacists go through half of what some engineers go through in school... There's little or no cramming in real engineering o... You must know and understand methods to pass exams... When you see COMPLEX and advance further math and math methods, your body go shake!!!
Doctors know that when all these other professionals start bearing the same title with them, the next thing is that they'll start asking for equal salaries - what they don't merit (ratio and not amount). They'll also start asking to becoming CMDs...

Cc: Ebubu3, QuinQ, Okaydaddy, Ebubu7, Simple87, Dalohad

It's not really about pay for me. As a non-doctor, to me it is confusing and dangerous. If a pharmacist introduces himself to me as doctor, I'll assume he is a medical doctor. Can't we see there is a huge loophole for deception and fraud there and we're talking people's lives and health not some non-serious stuff

Jman06:
You're not a doctor! So you're clearly typing out of ignorance!

In the hospital setting, everybody knows their positions and what they are employed to do. The doctor of pharmacy for instance knows that his focus is on drugs and how his interactions with patients, physicians, nurses and other healthcare professionals should center around medications. Ultimately he helps the patients get the best of their drug therapy. That is what a doctor of pharmacy would do in a hospital setting. Even if he uses the Dr title, it is going to be indicated in his ward coat as "Pharm.D". Physicians all over the world work in harmony with doctors of pharmacy (without complaints) as that has become the minimum requirement for every pharmacist. Nigeria cannot be an exception!

It is just big ego that is driving the NARD guys to go against other healthcare professionals using the Dr title Q.E.D. A group of people that even cry by mere seeing people wear lab coats! Can you beat that! To them, lab coat is now an exclusive regalia for medical doctors! Imagine such display of ignorance!

Overseas they are NOT called doctor neither do they use the title! No one calls lawyers doctor in US neither do they use the title - yet ALL lawyers in US have JD including Biden (but his wife was called doctor - PhD). Pharmacists are called Pharmacists not doctor! That's how you avoid confusion! Nigeria cannot be an exception. This is human life we're talking about!

basadenet:
I supported NUC on this totally and there is nothing NMA can do about it. If dey like, let them go and hung transformer

Until your relative gets killed by some pharmacist trying to live up to the "doctor" people have been fooled he is!

Jman06:
But with your MBBS, you still address yourselves as Dr Ordinary bachelors degree o

You know full well it's no ordinary bachelor's. Bachelor's don't take 7 years. Plus your real training starts after that. This is about human life. All it takes to kill a person is for one "doctor" trying to live up to the "doctor" everyone thinks he is.

* I'm not a doctor

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah, if you agree that i am the teacher here you wouldn't be arguing after i've shown you from the scriptures in what different capacities Jesus served the Almighty God.

You keep reposting the same low IQ ramble. Do you think it's so impressive or what?

You’ve been taught that the Bible CANNOT be cherrypicked because you can isolate any quote from the Bible that'd be quite deceptive when viewed in isolation. If you also add possible errors from translation and manipulation it becomes clear why you can't cherrypick.
David and the prophets constantly refered to themselves as servants.
On the other hand, PAUL (not Christ or any other disciples) is TRANSLATED as referring to Jesus as servant once. You ignore all the mountain of pronouncements by all and sundry including Jesus Himself that he was no servant but SON, and instead cling to that! Christ even gave a parable in Matthew 21:33–46, making clear He's SON, not servant!

OKOATA:
Cocaine is made from plant ☘️. Though cocaine might be bad due to its side effects but it's still God's/Nature creation so let people who wants to use it do.

Is there anything not made from nature?

Betanaija42moro:
Go and do your research.
No profession owns the title Doctor

They ought pass a law that only medical doctors and those with terminal degrees (PhD's) can be addressed as, and use the title "doctor", otherwise people will surely die from all sorts of "doctors" deceiving people

MaxInDHouse:
What did the Bible teach?

You are the teacher. Have you forgotten?

Betanaija42moro:
I don't know what you guys are fighting for. All these na professional doctorate degree.
A professional doctorate degree is an advanced degree that focuses on the practical application of knowledge and skills in a specific professional field, rather than academic research. It is designed for working professionals who want to advance their careers through applied research and practice, rather than pursuing a traditional PhD focused on theoretical research.

Key Features:

Focuses on real-world problems in the profession.


Examples of Professional Doctorate Degrees:

1. Doctor of Medicine (MD) – for physicians.


2. Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS) or Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD) – for dentists.


3. Doctor of Education (EdD) – for educators and administrators.


4. Doctor of Business Administration (DBA) – for business professionals.


5. Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) – for advanced practice nurses.


6. Doctor of Public Health (DrPH) – for public health professionals.


7. Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) – for pharmacists.


8. Doctor of Psychology (PsyD) – for clinical psychologists.

What they are fighting for is who is to be called "doctor" - so as not to confuse the public or have people falsely claim to be drug-prescribing doctors. It takes very long period of training to become a medical doctor independently prescribing medicine and I think the public ought know the only people called "doctor" are those with that qualification (except PhD holders).

Ebubu:
Dr. Should be reserved for PhD holders only. Everyone else (MBBS, Pharm., etc) should display their qualifications if they so much take pride in it.

You were given admission to study MBBS and MBBS is displayed on your certificate. Go and rest if you don't know you borrowed Dr lexicon from PhDs.

But a doctor's education continues long after MBBS. That is the huge difference. Even after graduating they still need long period of very low-income, long hours training to actually practice medicine. Not so with Pharmacy and others

Truthseeker10:
You claimed Jesus was God. So was he interchangeable with himself?

He is God same way your son has your nature but not you. He is divine but not the Father

Truthseeker10:
You should teach us. I told younthat The bible mentions an Almighty God. You claimed it was my language. So please teach us.

OK, I'll teach. So sit respectfully and learn:
Adding "almighty" to God does not change God

MaxInDHouse:
Nothing overrides another in God's word each title is spelt out:

So educate us, is SON same as SERVANT?
Also see this below about Moses

Emusan:
The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.

Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?

Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from.

Ebubu3:
A Pharmacist's title in the USA is Dr. And after his name he puts a bracket (Pharm.D)


Medical Doctors are not the owners of Dr title. What they were admitted to study is MBBS and not Dr. Show me proof they were admitted to study Dr. and Dr. was written on their admission letter. Rather it was Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery.

The real Dr. are the Ph.D holders and it is called Dr of Philosophy (Ph.D). Yet they don't get angry that medical doctors call themselves Dr that they didn't study for because what they studied is MBBS.

There is love in sharing.

Like I said, Dr title does not belong to anyone and in America, Pharmacists are referred to as Dr with (Pharm.D) in bracket



There is something called "healthcare team collaboration", read up on it.

Pharmacists study Biochemistry, Pharmacology, Anatomy, Physiology, so what do you study that we don't study ?


Pharmacists education in Rx school is being expanded to 6 years to incorporate clinical and patient-oriented education and clinical care, hence the introduction of the prefix Dr. followed by (Pharm.D).

In USA, Medical Doctors write their name as Dr. followed by (MD). Pharmacists Dr. followed by (Pharm.D).

That is how it is done because they're both clinical scholars.

You are LYING - and I'm NOT a doctor. Pharmacists are called Pharmacists in US. Nobody calls them doctor. Just as all US lawyers have JD but are never called doctor.
The doctors are RIGHT. It would lead to people deceptively parading themselves as Medical Doctors

MaxInDHouse:
If only you can delete where it's written in the Bible that Jesus is a SERVANT of God! Act 3:13

Thanks for your time!

No need to.
It is overridden by the countless places He's called the SON. That's how the Bible is. That's why you don't cherrypick. Thanks 4 your time!

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

I take it you can't.
So we agree, Jesus has divine nature (God) and is not a servant.
At least we agree on something. Happy Sunday

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote where highlighted is found written in the Bible?
Thanks in advance!

Can you please tell us if someone can be your son without having your nature (in case.of God, divine nature)? Or be your son and be just a servant?
Thanks in advance!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i know you have been taught several dogmas in your religion but now is the time to face reality as found in the Bible.

*Jesus is a servant of God according to the Bible because he was SENT by God. Act 3:26

*Jesus is the only begotten Son of God according to the Bible because he is the only creature God created alone. Proverbs 8:22-30, Colossians 1:15-16

*Jesus was God according to the Bible because he was given the privilege to act as God just like Moses was also given the same privilege. Exodus 7:1

So you need to unlearn and relearn to have the accurate knowledge of God's word that's not based on dogmas!

😅 This is beyond RIDICULOUS! Brainwashing is really an amazing thing! Because someone translated Exodus 7:1 as "I have made you LIKE god over Pharoah" that equates to all the places all over the Bible Jesus is acknowledged as God the son of God. AMAZING!
Oga, Emmanuel - God Himself (God the son) came and dwelt amongst men for a bit. No one was like Him before that, and no one can ever be like Him ever again.
You see brainwashing eh, no be small thing!

Ruke1991:
Did you notice these verses:

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let US make man in Our image

Gen 3:22 The Lord God said, “Since the man has become like one of US, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out, take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever

Have you asked yourself why those passages used the word, "us". And when you justapoxe it with the book of John, which says

John 1: 1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus is the word of God. And has been with the father from the beginning and was involved in the creation

Exactly. There is only one God but with more than one person!
"One God in three persons"

eastOFwest:
Ok, we are on different lanes here. A submissive and humble person does not mean that they will be pragmatic and have common sense. A prostitute can also give sane balanced opinions

The submissiveness or prostitution is not the issue. The issue is the CHANGE

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is God's SERVANT!


The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. ‭Acts 3:13 NIV‬

See ridiculous cherry picking of the Bible. Oga the Bible is meant to be taken as a whole. How many times was Jesus refered to as servant? What did Jesus HIMSELF accept as definition of Himself??

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

MaxInDHouse:
He called Jesus the Christ (Son of God) not God! Matthew 16-17
For centuries the Jews has been waiting for any of their prophets who will prove to be the promised Messiah (Christ) has prophesied by Moses. Deuteronomy 18:18
This promised Messiah will be a perfect human just like Adam who is the image of God! Luke 3:38
That's why Peter could tell his listeners that Jesus is the prophet who is to come in the manner of Moses. Act 3:22

You really ought stop this your ridiculous pairing of Jesus and Moses. It is really annoying. No two people can be more different. Can't you see that??!! Also, Moses was servant, Jesus is Son!

You concede Peter revealed Jesus as Son of the living God. Can't you see that son of God is also God and can only be God because God doesn't have son in the human sense??

eastOFwest:
I respectfully disagree. Deep down, we all know. But we ignore it or allow ourselves to get carried away by feelings. We refuse to acknowledge the truth and let our emotions get the better of us. But alas, we are only humans, and humans are hopelessly flawed

You really don't know. All sorts of things can fundamentally change people. Someone very submissive and humble when broke can become a cruel tyrant once they have a bit of money. Same thing can also happen once you move to a different country, a baby is born, the partner loses income, etc. Some people can also just change for no discernible reason - remember that devout pastor's who suddenly decided she wanted to be a prostitute!