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4everGod:
Wrong! World war 1 was a war began due to sovereignty tussle and had nothing to do with Christians. The communist killings on their own was based on a selfish atheist agenda...How can you even compare both?

Even if we dispel with what i just wrote above...A single atheist named Mao Zedong carried out 70million killings and his actions tower over both the deaths in world war 1 and world war 2 combined. Note that the emphasis is on WORLD war but this atheist was a singular act outside the WORLD war.

Sovereignty has nothing to do with politics?? Or u think politics just mean campaign??
Why did Mae Zedong kill people?? To further a communist agenda where nothing competes with the state for the loyalty and commitment of the people. Mao Zedong killed a lot of people, yes. But if he was a Ukrainian leader, he wouldn't have killed that much because of the population... He's a terrible person
Besides, the fact that you can only point to individuals who went crazy and killed people as bad atheists shows the lack of organized atheism. On the other hand, the catholic church supported slavery, crusades, inquisition, went to war against Protestants... That's not just some individuals going nuts. That's a whole organization killing people, that's institutionalized genocide by the institution of Christianity

4everGod:
are the WORLD WARS a theist war or a WORLD WAR?

They are a world war... Are the communist killings atheist killings or communist killing??

4everGod:
Ok now the total percentage of atheists in prison against 19+ million atheists populating the USA is 0.13% right?

While the percentage of Christians in prison against 223.223million is 0.74% right?

Now Do you know that The Christian population is 11 times the population of atheists in the USA yes the difference in prison percentage is just 0.61%?

Those this not shock you?

Do you now wish to run the statistics?

*facepalm* ×3 .... WTF...
Okay, I will come again. Percentage of atheist that are criminals is 0.13%, that of Christians is 0.74%. Christians have a higher rate or incidence of prison inmates. The pure numbers don't play a part here.... This is purely an issue of frequency

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no such thing as theist war . It is known as religious war . And that is what I've presented.

Don't play smart here

You mean if two countries are fighting a civil war based on racial differences then its a theist war

You must be a comedian

Let's be clear

Religious wars/killings are caused by religious intolerance between different religions .

Most Atheist killings are caused by communist governments who pledged allegiance to inherently violent Marxist-Leninist ideology

See?? When speaking about religious war, u mention only religion but when u say atheists killings u Mention atheism and communism... Are atheism and communism the same thing

4everGod:
Is world war 2 a theist war or a WORLD WAR?

Is world war 1 a theist war or a WORLD WAR?

World war one was a war caused by politics and started by Christians. The killings in Stalin's Russia were caused by politics and started by an atheist...

KingEbukasBlog:
You have evaded this simple question . By whose standard do you determine what is right or wrong ?

Are u talking about me personally or humanity generally

4everGod:
Also Randomperson i hope you have linked up with mrmontella behind the scenes so you can drop the facts you shifted to earlier when you left the prison percentages.

Please i need those as soon as possible with verifiable links.

Except if Mrmontella has deliberately copped out

The 7wars I pasted are all from Wikipedia... If u have contradictory numbers, let's see them

4everGod:
You shifted from yours to mrmontellas so i am doing same temporarily.

So can you now show me the percentages viz a viz their total populations nationwide?

Oh... Gladly...
Well... If we are to go with my own correct calculations, and totally discard the utter rubbish u did and called maths,... The percentage of atheists that are in prison is 0.13% while that of Christians is 0.74% percent. See?? Or should I come again??

4everGod:
Is world war 2 a theist war or a WORLD WAR?

Is world war 1 a theist war or a WORLD WAR?

Ain't u arguing about prison percentages again... Please one thing at a time

Anas09:
Lol. God owns them all, if he decides to kill them all for their sins, then he will kill them. Nothing you or i can do about it.

Well, if US decides to bomb Nigeria today, nothing u or I can do about it but that still doesn't make it right

KingEbukasBlog:
We are talking of two entirely different arguments .

(Religious Wars vs Atheist Wars )and (Atheists in Prison vs Christians in Prison )

I have helped atheists provide the top 5 religious wars - see above .

It's not religious wars vs atheist wars... It's wars caused by theists vs wars caused by atheists... Where is 4everGod

hopefulLandlord:
Hehehehehehehehe

Nice one... U actually almost got me there, then I remembered that it's 4evergod am arguing with...

hopefulLandlord:
why did you edit and change his post?

I don't understand... I didn't edit his post now... Oh wait.,.. Is that sarcasm??

4everGod:
*facepalm*

I have given you the population of Christians and the population of atheists. which is 223,223,000 for christians and 19,134,000 for atheists.

The american prison system has 2,418,352 inmates total in them.

You said 68% of these are christians while 0.1 percent are atheists right?

68% of 2,418,352 is 1,644,479

So we can say 1,644,479 out of 223,223,000 million Christians are in Prison am i correct?

0.1% of 2,418,352 is 241,836

So we can say that out of 19,134,000 atheists in the USA 241,836 thousand are in jail right?


Can you now find out the percentage of jailed Christians when compared to the total population of Christians as against the percentage of atheists in prison when compared to their total population.

You are not a maths student at all.

Calculate it and give me your answer.

I have done the hard part for you

Guy... This isn't correct:. 0.1% of 2,418,352 is 241,836
241836 is 10% of 2418352... U don't know maths Oga... U better call KingEbukasblog blog or Ranchodass to do the calculation for you

KingEbukasBlog:
@ 4evergod

I discovered something , inmates are likely to proselytize their fellow inmates . That is it is very possible for an atheist to become a Christian and an ostensible Christian to start living a moral life in prison .

Lives and beliefs can change while in prison .

So I think there is no need to focus on that .

You dig ?

Looking for excuses already??

4everGod so that you wont copout with the excuse... Lemme provide the numbers for you, there are about 1.57 million inmates in US. 0.1% of that is 1570 atheists. 68% of that is 1,067,600 Christians.... Do you see your folly now, or I need to come again

4everGod:
I do not think you know mathematics at all. Honestly i dont!

Am not surprised u can't make the connection... I've always guessed you're not that bright

4everGod:
Randomperson the total population of the united states is 318,900,000 thats 318.9million people.

70% of this number are Christians and that translates to 223,223,000 million or 223.223 million

6% of the population are atheists which translates to 19,134,000millon or 19.134 million

Now that we have the figures.

Now tell me the total number of inmates in the american prisons so we can get what 68% of that is who are Christians and also get what your 0.1% is who are atheists.


Can you work with me now?

Wait u can't make the connection from my last comment?? Just look at the discrepancies in the percentages in each setting... U expect me to be spelling it out for you??

4everGod:
Slow down and do not blow a fuse. I will permit you to include world war 2 if that makes you comfortable lmao

Can you now show me verifiable links and facts?

Plus also finish our little mathematics we already began?

Guy why are u bent on disgracing yourself... Atheists are 6% in the total population. However, in prison that percentage drops to 0.1%.... Christians make up 70% of the total population, in prison, it drops to 68%.... U see the folly of your insistence now?? Unless, you're not bright enough to make the connection

KingEbukasBlog:
That wasn't the agreement

Atheists are their usual duplicity .

Agreement with who... Just 7 wars caused by Christians and u people are running scared.... Google them, if the wars never happened or the numbers were not correct then come and complain

4everGod:
By the way Randomperson do you know that if the number of deaths in world war 2 alone is 58m and that involved all the countries in the world including those run by atheists.

Mao zedong alone carried out 45million killings. That is a single atheist and not a world involvement.

Anyway i want links and figures and verifiable info,

I dey wait

Trash.... World war 2 was caused by Christians... That's what counts

KingEbukasBlog:
The guy said world war one and world war two

Where is winner01 ?

Bro , winner01 made this exact observation

If you ask atheists to show you religious wars they'll bring any war whatsoever fought in any part of the world

The same thing is happening here AGAIN .

Religious wars?? U didn't show me atheist wars, u showed me wars by atheists. Am showing u wars by Christians... Iono why you people are running scared, it's just a taste of your own medicine

4everGod:
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You are always in a hurry. I will not repeat myself. I do not want copy and paste. I want links, years, verifiable info and not this

Shut up.... If u want to confirm, Google it yourself... U are just stalling because you know you're wrong already...

4everGod:
Ok good so since we are not together physically i need for us to do this analysis slowly.

If americans are 70% theist and 6% atheists, What is the population of america so you can quickly get what 70% is and what 6% is in figures. Can you do that?

OMG... U can't see it that this thing can't favor you yet?? Am disappointed

WW2- 58,300,000
Conquest of the Americas- 34 million
Spanish conquest of mexico- 24 million
WW1- 20 million
Spanish conquest of peru- 8.5 million
Thirty years war- 6 million...
These are only the highest casualty wars involving Christians oh... I've not included others like civil wars ooh

4everGod:
Please learn to slow down to understand anything before you rush and type.

I asked for PERCENTAGE OF CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA AND NOT IN PRISONS. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ALREADY GAVE ME THE PERCENTAGE OF ATHEISTS IN AMERICA

About 70%..

4everGod:
I love the fact that its easy to discover truth these days.

Let them carry out their group project. I am tired of arguing aimlessly. I asked randomperson to give me the percentage of theists in the USA and those who are atheists and lets do a statistical analysis based on prison figures and percentages so i can show him how silly his assumption that atheists are less in prisons in America. He has not given me those percentages.

Why are u lying... Atheists are 6% in America, they are only 0.1% of prisons population. Christians are over 66% of prisons. I already posted this before

4everGod:
How long do you need?

1 week?

Historical killings for Christianity
See also Historical killings for Islam
History of persecutions by Christians
The martyrdom of Christians at the hands of the Romans (also here and here). This was one type of oppressor killing another type of oppressor - as was shown when the Christians finally got into power.
Persecution of Pagans by the Christian Roman Empire
Saint Augustine supported torturing heretics. Also here.
Christian thinkers such as St. Thomas Aquinas continued to justify the killing of heretics and unbelievers throughout the medieval period.
St. Thomas Aquinas justifies killing people who are not convinced by his arguments.
See the Summa Theologica, 2nd Part of the 2nd Part, Question 11, Article 3. See also here.
Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds (online here and here and here) by Charles Mackay (1841).
The killing of Jews
Fascism
Christianity and the Holocaust
The killing of scientists and thinkers



The Popes of the Catholic church.


The Crusades

The Crusades (mainly 1095-1272)
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates the Crusades killed 1 million innocent civilian men, women and children (not in combat).
Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds
The Crusades (and here)
Jihad begot the Crusades by Andrew G. Bostom.
Yes, the Crusades were in part a response to centuries of Islamic jihad and persecution and slaughter of Christians in the Middle East. But the Christians then (unlike today) were no better than their Islamic adversaries.
The First Crusade
In 1095, Pope Urban II made this speech to launch the blood-letting of The Crusades.
The capture of Jerusalem, 1099. When they took Jerusalem, the Christian army butchered almost every man, woman and child in the city.
The Second Crusade
St. Bernard of Clairvaux (see search) said when launching the Second Crusade: "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."
The genocide of the Cathars (1209�1229)
In 1209, Pope Innocent III (also here) called for a crusade to exterminate the Cathar people of France (the Albigensians), simply because they had different superstitious beliefs to his own stupid beliefs. Men, women and children were butchered by the Pope's forces.
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates they butchered 200,000 innocent men, women and children.
Massacre at B閦iers (1209)
The Church's War on the Cathars
In 1233, Pope Gregory IX encouraged the extermination of the Stedinger people of Friesland, on the imaginary grounds that they were in league with the (equally-imaginary) Devil. "The devil appears to them in different shapes", said his holiness, "sometimes as a goose or a duck". The entire people were exterminated.

The Inquisition
The Inquisition
The Inquisition and Slavery
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates that the Inquisition butchered 350,000 innocent men, women and children.
The Spanish Inquisition
The Spanish Inquisition under Ferdinand and Isabella was approved by Pope Sixtus IV in 1484.
The butcher Torquemada
Expulsion of the Muslims and Jews from Spain, 1492.
The Jewish Virtual Library
The Inquisition
The Spanish Expulsion of the Jews, 1492
The pioneer atheist and scientific thinker Giulio Cesare Vanini was burnt by the Inquisition of Rome in 1619.

The Witch-hunting

Witch-hunting - perhaps Christianity's worst crime. Think how many poor innocents have been killed for God; how few have ever been killed for Satan.
Many people think 1 million innocents were killed by the witch-hunters, though Rudolph J. Rummel thinks 100,000.
Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds
The Witch-hunting (and here)
Timeline of Witch-hunting (and detailed). Reading this should make you angry.
The Burning Times: The Christian extermination of Witches and other heretics
The Papacy's crimes of witch burning were based on the grossest superstitions - for example, the weather cannot have natural causes but must be caused by witches. This would be comical provided we do not think about what happened

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is an integral part of the Marxist-Leninist ideology and any country that pledges allegiance to this ideology as its guiding principle is intolerant of the belief in God . And that means atheism is their animus .

I explained everything here :

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Bullshit as usual... The subjugation of organized religion is not an end in communism, it's a means to achieving complete commitment to the government and leader of the country... If u count Stalin's acts as atheist acts, am obliged to count yakubu Gowon's acts as Christian... No double standard

4everGod:
If 6% of americans are atheists what percentage are theists? Give me the percentage of theists and let me show you how statistically wrong you are by making such comparisons

66.2% of prison inmates are Christians. Please I beg u show me where am wrong

4everGod:
You are generalizing, Facts do not lie. Its not in the number of wars its in the number of deaths. Civil wars were caused by sovereignty squables and not Religion based. Can you allow Mrmontella to now make his submission?

Abeg.... The deaths u claim are atheist deaths were actually done in furtherance of a communist agenda... Stop using double standards

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are below 10 percent of the world's population while religious people are over 80 percent of world's population yet atheists have almost the same number of religious people in prison , what does it tell you ?

And that is America with <3 percent of its population as atheists - and they have that large number of atheists in prison

Joke's on you buddy

Almost the same numbers?? Do some research boy and stop disgracing yourself