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AlmiqhteeAllah:
And there are relationships that survive without money. That's the point.

Wake up from your slumber, please

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Lol. So only adults fall in love? Or your girlfriend/wife is your daughter for whom you're financially responsible, but not financially responsible for YOU?

So, if a guy is still under his parents, and has a girlfriend who's under her parents too, their relationship is pointless, and the love is DEFINITELY false? Or how does a teenager "take care" of his girlfriend?

And, hey! Talk about "real world", what do you know about it? Your "real world" is limited to YOUR own environment and experiences. It's not the real world---merely the aspect you've chosen to take note of, or the only aspect that has been available to you all your life. The world is bigger than that.

Your arguments have a Patriachial ideology underpinning them---that your wife is like your daughter, and you have a responsibility to take care of her finance [but she has no such responsibility towards you]. Sorry, but I don't belong to that school of thought.

To make my point as simple as possible: A broke girl can find love. A broke guy can find love too. And their partner can be either wealthy....... or broke as well. [They know what motivates them and brings them together]

Unless a person thinks of relationships/marriage as a poverty alleviation program, or loves because of money [implying the person loves only money], they know love goes beyond just riches.

Now, I see you have lost touch with reality. What is the possiblity that you will meet a girl from a wealthy background if you are broke? That's why I said you should not allow your thoughts to be beclouded my fairy-tales and fantasy movies!

Teenagers who are still being taken care of by their parents have no business whatsoever with love or relationships.

shaybebaby:
Hun we are not talking absolutes here that are mutually exclusive. He is speaking relatively.
What is your definition of love?
Ofcourse conditions that kill love differs and lack of money is one of those. No one implied it is the only one.
I've never heard of money killing a relationship, rather maybe it's use wrongly would contribute to the demise of the relationship.

Yeah, something I ve being trying to prove to folks but they keep avoiding it.

zumazik:
And their smiling

Scam men again! Na so una go dey advertise cheap data up and down. Una matter dor cast for NL

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Wait........ Define "broke"---what it means to YOU.

if you don't have enough to take care of yourself, it will be wicked for you to want a woman to stick with you. Let's not have our thoughts beclouded by fairy-tale stories of how rich princesses fell in love with poor farmers or labourers! It's a real world we live. Deal with it!

Benita27:
I'd choose a guy who's career driven, vision oriented and a great prospect to match over a rich one I have no idea of how he made his money 'cause my head may be used as sacrifice. Nothing gives me joy more than the idea of being with such a person 'cause I'd part of his success story. I'm not speaking for my gender in general but for myself so don't call me a hypocrite. On the other hand, wonder why the rich folks are apprehensive and careful in choosing a wife?. Good wives aren't easy to come by at such points in a man's life. I still reteirate that it's more difficult for a rich man to find true love than it's for a struggling guy.

Try and separate being rich and being comfortable for once. Don't you think you are mixing everything up? I mean, you don't need to be necessarily rich, you should be able to pay your bills conveniently, live in a decent house and eat decent meals! A man who can't afford these may not even find lust, talk less of love. If you can't get fake love, how do you hope to get a genuine one?

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Being broke wouldn't prevent you from finding true love. Being wealthy doesn't guarantee finding true love.

What's your point?

I don't know what you call true love but being broke may not only prevent you from finding your said 'true love', it can also prevent you from finding fake love. If you are broke, there's no lust for you, talk less of love.

[quote author=AlmiqhteeAllah post=62279030][/quote]Whatever that can make the world go round is even greater than security. Money may not be the bedrock of an affair but it is too important to be ignored, especially, in these present times. Its importance cannot be over-emphasized.

majekdom2:
...you don't need to be extra rich to find true love, you just need to be financially Ok with ambition. It will come!

What else can I say when you have almost committed the fallacy of begging a question - petitio principi?

adepeter2027:
On a scale of 1-100, what's your choose/chances of finding true love in this current society/era/country

They won't give you a concrete answer because their opinions are filled with hypocrisy and running away from the truth.

Benita27:
The two example I gave married when they were nothing. At the time wealth came they were sure of what they had as wives. They already had this security that no matter what; she can't leave me if my shares in the stock market plummets. Would you say same if you happen to marry a lady you're not sure of where her loyalty lies if you're rich?.

I can't argue with you whether they married when they were nothing or somebody. What you should tell me is what period did they get married because I'm very sure it wasn't recently.

Most people that hold this opinion of yours will swiftly show their hypocritical nature if I ask them to support their sisters to marry a broke dude. Watch how they will change opinions like chameleons!

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Although, I disagree with your post in its entirety, I'm quoting this particular part because it's extremely ridiculous and nonsensical. Where did you get the figures, the statistics, the evidence, to make you confident enough to make this absurd claim? Where, when, and how did you conduct your survey? You're just saying nonsense to support your own beliefs, conjuring up hogwash for your own ends. The opposite might even be actually true, since the United States seems to have higher divorce rate than countries where the poverty rate is higher.

Haven said that, these kind of write-ups are ridiculous and one-dimensional rubbish that judge all relationships by a one-size-fits-all standard, ignoring the reality that people have different motivations in life, as well as different reasons for falling in love. So many factors contribute to attraction as well as break-ups that there's barely any consistent way of determining what to rule out or what not when making such considerations as this. Relationships are dialectical, "grey" systems, not some 1 + 1 = 2, simple, straightforward, binary system that you can analyse using Aristotelian logic. Your write-up is flawed.

And, viewing it from a different perspective, you seem to have the wrong idea about love and loyalty. If you make something as uncertain and unstable as money and finance the pillar of a relationship, what happens when conditions change? You might be poor today, only to become rich tomorrow. The person who is wealthy now, can go bankrupt the next minute and end up in penury, due to circumstances over which he has no control. So, what happens then? The "loyal" and "loving" partner abandons him to his fate?

Stop acting as if you have been programmed automatically misjudge opinions! I didn't say money is a bedrock of finding the 'right' partner or one who loves you 'genuinely'. What I'm saying is that success gives you a wider range to your choice of women. Everyone knows what he/she wants in another. On another note, I'm telling you that lack of money will do more harm than good in an affair. Take that to the bank! Everyones wants their future to be secured. Don't hate them.

Benita27:
True @embolden. I felt he had to brush aside reality 'cause his article needs to be sold. Going to dig up names would be a waste of my time 'cause I know it's difficult for a wealthy man to identify/find genuine love. Not that they don't tho.

To add to your list. Locally we have Otedola,
Cosmos and charity of Coscharis group. Women who start with such men are never messed with.

When did Otedola and your said Cosmos marry? Was it few years ago or decades ago? You guys have failed to align things with the present. Don't be living in the past. When I was growing up, I saw my uncles and other elderly ones who didn't have much, living in one room apartments, but they had very lovely relationships. Some even got married to their girlfriends even if they had little. Can you equate that with what we see today? That's where I want you to understand this post from.

gsainttrinity:
Very well said!!


As for the Op, He wrote alot without saying much, the write up is lacking in convincing narratives.. Why?
The Op should have stated how many instances he knew where the rich genuinely found love (I not saying there are none) but when you compare it those who found genuine love when they had nothing, I don't think there would have been any need for raising a counter argument against the obvious.

That been said, I would mention those who found love in nothing like the handle I Quoted had pointed

Zukerberg.. Facebook CEO married his sweetheart from when he had little

2face...Nigerian musician.. Despite all Odds still ended up with his lover from his struggling days when he had little

Ay.. Nigerian comedian..

To mention but a few...

The truth remains If you could find someone who loves when you have nothing... They are more bound to continue loving you... Despite the change in status.

But how many people who found love when they are rich and still manage to stick together when the fortune changes.? Should be the question and the yardstick with which you judge if it was easier finding love when you are rich..

The problem with you guys is that you are always fond of reeling out a few names whenever you are confronted with an issue. It's just like saying having a third class degree does not affect your employment prospect because Wole Soyinka or Gani Fawehinmi graduated with 3rd class, forgetting to put present socio-economic situations into consideration!

You should think of the problems lack of money brings more than the issues its presence brings except you cherish a life of penury! Nobody makes money then start planning on how to cope when the money vanishes.

Cuteamigo1:
A woman that will stick with you and love you b4 you blow is a woman that is worth keeping because her trust and loyalty is already earned unlike some who keep jumping from one man to the other depending on who has the fatest pocket?

Lack of money does more damage to your affair than the presence of it. How do you get loyalty when you are broke? By the way, anyone can jump from one person to another.

Benita27:
On the contrary, it's said that a friend's loyalty is known when the chips are down. Those who made this quote were not drunk and it has been proven to be true 'cause wealth attracts sycophants. The married great men of this world met their women when they had nothing 'cause that's when you test a man's loyalty. Wonder why Mark Zuckerberg ended up with an average looking Asian instead of the beauties of America?, it's 'cause she was with him when he was nothing.

You said it's easier to pick your kind of woman when you have wealth. Sorry, it's a herculean task to pick your kind of woman when you have money. A wealthy man is full of insecurities.

You wouldn't marry a lady you're not sure whether she loves you or not, realistically speaking.

I fault your opinion that the great men of this world met their wives when they were broke. That's a fallacy of hasty generalization. Why don't you gather their historical details and post it here so we can all see? Whether you have money or not is not a guarantee of meeting someone who loves you genuinely.

Rocktation, Tosyne2much, toks2008

adepeter2027:
This post is da bomb



Wow

You attacked everything rapmoney

Nice one

Thanks man. I appreciate.

Read patiently...

Most of us grew up with the false belief (my opinion) that you will only find the right woman, the one who would love you genuinely when you don't have a dime or when you're not yet sound financially. I held unto this idea for a very long time till I got to a point in life where I could no longer struggle with reality; I had to face it.

I have come to a stage in life where I no longer entertain ideas that are not practical or are not in touch with realities. True-life experiences will sometimes teach you that ideas like the one this post revolves around are nothing but mere abstract craps which people use to give themselves hopes.

Let me tell you today, having money and even excess of it will not stop you from finding a woman who suits you and who loves you dearly. It depends on your class and what you want. I strongly believe that holding onto the idea that you will only find a woman who will love you genuinely, when you have not achieved financial success, is a mentality that is seriously laced with inferiority complex! It is like saying no comfortable or financially successful young man will marry a woman who will love him genuinely. If money will not make a woman love you genuinely, then you can try poverty. I believe it will help! Being broke as ceramics is not a guarantee that genuine love awaits you whenever a girl agrees to date you. People date for different reasons. Among the super rich, rich, comfortable, struggling, broke, poor and poorest, there are honest people, so also there are deceitful people too.

The number of marriages or homes that get broken every now and then in our society due to lack of money far outnumbers the number that get broken due to the existence of money and much money. You might want to think otherwise considering the the rate at which you read or hear about broken marriages in the news. It is so because the people involved are mostly celebrities. Whatever they do is news. It is even news if they go to the restroom! You don't know the high number that get broken everyday among broke people who 'genuinely' loved themselves because they are not popular. It is hardly news when theirs happen.

What's the essence of having a wife that loves you 'genuinely' because she met you struggling, when there's a high possibility that she can cheat on you because you don't have money? Or isn't it the present society we live in again? Why do we always throw away the issue of financial compatibility when the woman is at the receiving end but embrace it strongly when the man is at the receiving end because he's probably broke?

I'm not suggesting that one should not marry when he's not comfortable. A man can marry whenever it suits him; be it in riches or in poverty. What I'm saying is that the idea that you will only find a woman who will love you genuinely when you're not comfortable doesn't hold weight. What if she happens to have achieved more financial success than you? Would she still be a gold-digger who doesn't love you genuinely? A comfortable guy should go for a comfortable girl so that financial appreciation could be a mutual thing. You will only attract leeches and parasites when you go for broke girls who would have looked down on you years back when you were broke even if they, themselves were carrying poverty on their heads as if they were hawking it.

Whether you like it or not, financial success gives you a wider room to make choices when it comes to women. That's the same reason why a broke guy always begs his girlfriend not to leave him...because his choices are highly limited. No woman is perfect. In Nigeria, money gives you the opportunity to get closer to your choice woman. Young Nigerian women nowadays are allergic to long stories of how bright your prospects are; face it!!! I don't hustle to impress ladies. I hustle so that I can give the mother of my kids and my kids the best. Whether she loves me genuinely or not is nothing but a headache for the idealists!

Good morning!

Na wa o! Who dem catch nai do

Jesusloveyou:
Ok ooo,
But idiotic pigs of Biafra will not learn from their elders.

Buhari should forgive them, because the idiotic pigs of Biafra do not know what they are doing.

I joined this forum called Nairaland in 2008. That's about 9 years or so but I must tell you, I have never read a post as senseless as yours before. In fact, this is the most senseless post I have seen since 2008 till date!!! Why didn't you address what the man said instead of making a total fool of yourself on a public forum? Look at your username, 'jesusloveyou' indeed!!! What a hypocrite you are!

ChyOmaa:
[color=#000000]Wonderful write up.

We should also be conscious of the kind of life we live as singles so that it don't affect our children.

Rapmoney longest time [/color]

Wow! Where have you been, Mzpecs? It's been a while.

adepeter2027:
Well articulated

Thanks.

jake247:
Why u dey spoil market for oloshi, and ashawo na, thats there talent, and they sell small small.

Wetin concern fish and raincoat? Ye knoweth not what thou sayeth.

Loyalblak007:
hmmmmm

Yes.

An Open Letter To Young Nigerian Mothers

Dear Nigerian Mothers,

"A man builds a house but it is the woman that builds the home".

I know being a mother is not an easy task. I still vividly remember the pains my mother went through, raising three boys and three girls (six kids) in a Nigerian city where 'open eye' was the order of the day. I have come of age and I have come to realize that all mothers are women but not all women are mothers. I pray God to keep us alive so I can reward mine here on earth for all what she passed through. Same prayer goes to everyone out there whose mother has proven to be a woman and a mother too.

In as much as this letter intends to address Nigerian mothers in general, it is worthy to note that this letter specifically addresses young Nigerian mothers who are still raising teenage and school-age daughters. Reason: Your young daughters are very much important and precious to the society. There is still room to teach them how to work hard with their hands and brains and not to be unnecessarily dependent on the male folks for their survival or existence. It is easier to teach a young tigress to be friendly with humans than an adult tigress. One does not learn how to use the left hand when he/she is old (African Proverb). Ladies of my generation do not need the re-orientation that is contained in this letter more than the younger ones.

The family is the smallest unit of every society, according to Sociologists, of which I concur. In a society where most of our young women have replaced their brains with their buttocks and boobs, I wonder how the next generation would look like if you, our young Nigerian mothers fail to teach your school-age and teenage daughters the importance of acquiring entrepreneural and real-life skills that can see them breaking free from this 'dependency mentality' that has continued to hang around them like the Sword of Damocles.

Most of our young women now sleep with different men of all shapes, sizes and ages just to acquire simple personal gadgets such as phones that may not even cost up to 30k!!! Some do not even mind licking the navel and belly of of a man old enough to be their grandfather just to purchase an Android phone! Now, if such young women intelligently put their hands and brains to use, they too can buy 5 of such phones (or whatever) in no time without sleeping with even an ant or a lizard!

Is it that the brains of the male folks are too developed whereby, acquiring of any form of property is an exclusive activity for males based on mental and physical capacity? How come there is this mentality that whenever a young Nigerian lady needs anything, there must be a male out there to provide it? The answer to these, I believe, lies in the over-dependency nature of our young ladies. Whatever people get used to becomes a habit and then a culture.

Most of our young ladies have stopped using their brains for rational thinking; they now prefer to use their bums and boobs! As soon as a young girl starts noticing certain curves on her hips and the appearance of two prodruding oranges on her chest, that is the end. To hell with her hands and brain! She now has two 'assets' that are bigger than the four factors of production (land, labour, capital and entrepreneur) put together.

Right from a tender age, the female child should be taught the importance of diverting her attention and focus from her body parts to other worthwhile activities that can make her independent, respected and successful in life, while still being conscious of her 'natural endowments'! Your bums and boobs are parts of your body; they are not factors of production!!! Whenever I see young women who are thriving in science, arts, sports, technology, education, agriculture and other paths in life, I cannot help but give them a respectful salute as if I was giving a salute as a military personnel to a fellow officer. I always doff my hat for them because I know such women have bums and boobs but looked beyond these because they had dreams and visions they were dying to actualize! Genevieve Nnaji, Chimamanda Adichie, Asa, Asisat Oshoala, Serena and Venus Williams, Simi, Yemi Alade and a host of others have vaginas and boobs too but they knew they had something burning in them that was struggling to be noticed!

Let our young mothers harness the talents of their young female children. Talent is not an exclusive potential to be utilized by the male folks. If you have a daughter and she is good at sports, such as field events, it is expected you nurture her to be successful in the path she is gifted in. At 16, they should be following one endeavour or the other to be dependent and successful in life and not various d*cks of all sizes for survival!

Thank you and Good morning!

Yours sincerely,

Kelvin U. Kartez (Rapmoney)

BiggerPRICK1:
Send me the link... i didnt see it

Check front page. It is still there.

BiggerPRICK1:
H for hugeAss

Na wa for you o! E be like say you like ass well well o! Hope u didn't masturbate on that Daniella Okeke's thread?

H

An Open Letter To Young Nigerian Mothers

Dear Nigerian Mothers,

"A man builds a house but it is the woman that builds the home".

I know being a mother is not an easy task. I still vividly remember the pains my mother went through, raising three boys and three girls (six kids) in a Nigerian city where 'open eye' was the order of the day. I have come of age and I have come to realize that all mothers are women but not all women are mothers. I pray God to keep us alive so I can reward mine here on earth for all what she passed through. Same prayer goes to everyone out there whose mother has proven to be a woman and a mother too.

In as much as this letter intends to address Nigerian mothers in general, it is worthy to note that this letter specifically addresses young Nigerian mothers who are still raising teenage and school-age daughters. Reason: Your young daughters are very much important and precious to the society. There is still room to teach them how to work hard with their hands and brains and not to be unnecessarily dependent on the male folks for their survival or existence. It is easier to teach a young tigress to be friendly with humans than an adult tigress. One does not learn how to use the left hand when he/she is old (African Proverb). Ladies of my generation do not need the re-orientation that is contained in this letter more than the younger ones.

The family is the smallest unit of every society, according to Sociologists, of which I concur. In a society where most of our young women have replaced their brains with their buttocks and boobs, I wonder how the next generation would look like if you, our young Nigerian mothers fail to teach your school-age and teenage daughters the importance of acquiring entrepreneural and real-life skills that can see them breaking free from this 'dependency mentality' that has continued to hang around them like the Sword of Damocles.

Most of our young women now sleep with different men of all shapes, sizes and ages just to acquire simple personal gadgets such as phones that may not even cost up to 30k!!! Some do not even mind licking the navel and belly on of a man old enough to be their grandfather just to purchase an Android phone! Now, if such young women intelligently put their hands and brains to use, they too can buy 5 of such phones (or whatever) in no time without sleeping with even an ant or a lizard!

Is it that the brains of the male folks are too developed whereby, acquiring of any form of property is an exclusive activity for males based on mental and physical capacity? How come there is this mentality that whenever a young Nigerian lady needs anything, there must be a male out there to provide it? The answer to these, I believe, lies in the over-dependency nature of our young ladies. Whatever people get used to becomes a habit.

Most of our young ladies have stopped using their brains for rational thinking; they now prefer to use their bums and boobs! As soon as a young girl starts noticing certain curves in her hips and the appearance of two prodruding oranges on her chest, that is the end. To hell with her hands and brains! She now has two 'assets' that are bigger than the four factors of production (land, labour, capital and entrepreneur) put together.

Right from a tender age, the female child should be taught the importance of diverting her attention and focus from her body parts to other worthwhile activities that can make her independent, respected and successful in life, while still being conscious of her 'natural endowments'! Your bums and boobs are parts of your body; they are not factors of production!!! Whenever I see young women who are thriving in science, arts, sports, technology, education, agriculture and other paths in life, I cannot help but give them a respectful salute as if I was giving a salute as a military personnel to a fellow officer. I always doff my hat for them because I know such women have bums and boobs but looked beyond these because they had dreams and visions they were dying to actualize! Genevieve Nnaji, Chimamanda Adichie, Asa, Asisat Oshoala, Serena and Venus Williams, Simi, Yemi Alade and a host of others have vaginas and boobs too but they knew they had something burning in them that was struggling to be noticed!

Let our young mothers harness the talents of their young female children. Talent is not an exclusive potential to be utilized by the male folks. If you have a daughter and she is good at sports, such as field events, it is expected you nurture her to be successful in the path she is gifted in. At 16, they should be following one endeavour or the other to be dependent and successful in life and not various d*cks of all sizes for survival!

Thank you and Good morning!

Yours sincerely,

Kelvin U. Kartez (Rapmoney)

GavelSlam:
There must be censorship of divisive news media.

You cannot instigate the people against constituted authority on the simple but often abused premise of freedom of speech.

If you attended a university, the institution should, in a matter of urgency, withdraw your certificate and cancel all courses you might have taken!!! So people who claim to have sane minds can reason like this?