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Nairaland GeneralRe: How To Create A New Topic by rbjimoh: 1:54pm On Oct 11, 2012
uspry1: @stnelson1

I am really glad that you enjoyed reading my journal! grin

You are more than glad welcome joining NL to explore many new things you never knew it existed here! shocked

Finally, May Lord be with you! grin
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CrimeRe: Police Begins Manhunt For Killers Of Uniport Students by rbjimoh: 8:50pm On Oct 07, 2012
gbadexy: The mob made the mistake of killing someone with influential family.
Much as I support capital punishments, I don't subscribe to the idea of mob taking laws into their hand, innocent people are sometimes killed.
In my area, there was a time robbers collected a car and shot one guy in the process, the robbers went away with the car and the area was deserted. One guy was coming from where the robbers took and the people said the guy was among the theives, that they left him behind(as if a thief would walk back towards the crime scene).
Anyways, angry that their friend was killed, they didn't listen to the guy's explanation and he was beaten blue-black, dragged on the road for over 500 meters(peeling him) before he was burnt alive.
We later got to know the guy was simply coming with his girlfriend who got separated when they heard gunshot and they were about to have a wedding soon.
A mob is difficult to control and once devil just suggest a gruesome suggestion through one of them to them, there is no reasoning and anybody that speaks against it may also be accused of being their partner/sympathizer and harmed.
gbadexy: The mob made the mistake of killing someone with influential family.
Much as I support capital punishments, I don't subscribe to the idea of mob taking laws into their hand, innocent people are sometimes killed.
In my area, there was a time robbers collected a car and shot one guy in the process, the robbers went away with the car and the area was deserted. One guy was coming from where the robbers took and the people said the guy was among the theives, that they left him behind(as if a thief would walk back towards the crime scene).
Anyways, angry that their friend was killed, they didn't listen to the guy's explanation and he was beaten blue-black, dragged on the road for over 500 meters(peeling him) before he was burnt alive.
We later got to know the guy was simply coming with his girlfriend who got separated when they heard gunshot and they were about to have a wedding soon.
A mob is difficult to control and once devil just suggest a gruesome suggestion through one of them to them, there is no reasoning and anybody that speaks against it may also be accused of being their partner/sympathizer and harmed.
gbadexy: The mob made the mistake of killing someone with influential family.
Much as I support capital punishments, I don't subscribe to the idea of mob taking laws into their hand, innocent people are sometimes killed.
In my area, there was a time robbers collected a car and shot one guy in the process, the robbers went away with the car and the area was deserted. One guy was coming from where the robbers took and the people said the guy was among the theives, that they left him behind(as if a thief would walk back towards the crime scene).
Anyways, angry that their friend was killed, they didn't listen to the guy's explanation and he was beaten blue-black, dragged on the road for over 500 meters(peeling him) before he was burnt alive.
We later got to know the guy was simply coming with his girlfriend who got separated when they heard gunshot and they were about to have a wedding soon.
A mob is difficult to control and once devil just suggest a gruesome suggestion through one of them to them, there is no reasoning and anybody that speaks against it may also be accused of being their partner/sympathizer and harmed.
Ours is a savage socity than some were even in 15th century. Everybody here in our clime is a law onto himself. Jungle justice is the order of the day. You cannot but be ashamed when you compare what obtains here with that of civilised climes, you'll wish you were never born here. In the US, for instant, a suspect is presumed to be innocent,however heinous the crime he may have being accused of committing,and he remains so until proven guilty in court of competent jurisdiction. In fact, an accused has the right to remain truely silent and he may not be coerced for confession by the law enforcement agents. But, sadly and sadly, ours is a brutest of societies!
PoliticsRe: EFCC To Arrest Priests Over Atuche’s N45 Million Tithe by rbjimoh: 6:48pm On Oct 04, 2012
9ja_I_hail: Don't be stupiid in church you don't write your name on tithes. Tithes usually come with envelop and go into tithe box. Rev's don't know who and who pay their tithes, when it's time for tithes members who want to pay their tithe will move to the alter and pay tithes they don't hand it over to the priest hand to hand.
9ja_I_hail: Don't be stupiid in church you don't write your name on tithes. Tithes usually come with envelop and go into tithe box. Rev's don't know who and who pay their tithes, when it's time for tithes members who want to pay their tithe will move to the alter and pay tithes they don't hand it over to the priest hand to hand.
9ja_I_hail: Don't be stupiid in church you don't write your name on tithes. Tithes usually come with envelop and go into tithe box. Rev's don't know who and who pay their tithes, when it's time for tithes members who want to pay their tithe will move to the alter and pay tithes they don't hand it over to the priest hand to hand.
Put N45 millionhuh I think you are crazy
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by rbjimoh: 2:59pm On Oct 03, 2012
Ozichim: You are completely wrong. Jesus did not mean metal sword for fighting in battle. Some disciple also thought Jesus was referring to metal/Iron sword but he told them to stop when one of the disciple said that he has one sword with him. Infact when one of the disciple cut off some bodies ear while trying to defend Christ, Jesus immediately rebuked him and warned the disciple not to fight for him, that if he want to fight he will send angels to do the fighting. Jesus then went on to heal the man whole ear was cut off. Also note that the man whole ear was cut off was one of those that came to arrest Christ.



Warning for all Muslims, Be not deceived, Christian God is not the same as Muslim god(Allah). They are completely different.
Ozichim: You are completely wrong. Jesus did not mean metal sword for fighting in battle. Some disciple also thought Jesus was referring to metal/Iron sword but he told them to stop when one of the disciple said that he has one sword with him. Infact when one of the disciple cut off some bodies ear while trying to defend Christ, Jesus immediately rebuked him and warned the disciple not to fight for him, that if he want to fight he will send angels to do the fighting. Jesus then went on to heal the man whole ear was cut off. Also note that the man whole ear was cut off was one of those that came to arrest Christ.



Warning for all Muslims, Be not deceived, Christian God is not the same as Muslim god(Allah). They are completely different.
Ozichim: You are completely wrong. Jesus did not mean metal sword for fighting in battle. Some disciple also thought Jesus was referring to metal/Iron sword but he told them to stop when one of the disciple said that he has one sword with him. Infact when one of the disciple cut off some bodies ear while trying to defend Christ, Jesus immediately rebuked him and warned the disciple not to fight for him, that if he want to fight he will send angels to do the fighting. Jesus then went on to heal the man whole ear was cut off. Also note that the man whole ear was cut off was one of those that came to arrest Christ.



Warning for all Muslims, Be not deceived, Christian God is not the same as Muslim god(Allah). They are completely different.
Of course, you are right. Absolutely! How can Allah, the creator, be the same as His creation? Not possible! The fluck of Christians are in manifest error. How can you explain your followership of a Trinitian religion: one-in-three gods? If Jesus was sent to save the world, it follows, logically, that all men that do not accept him as their personal saviour would not be saved,right? If that is true, what then becomes of the thousands of prophets that came before Jesus, and their generations? What sense does the Christian ridiculous dogma that all newborn babies come into the world as sinners? That they inherited sins from their forebearers, Adam and Eve? God is far just than to punish the son for the sins of his parents.
Islam came to explain out the drowning pit of folly that the Christians and Jews have fallen. Sine qua none attribute of a Being that must be called God is that :He must not be conditioned by Time and Space. If God truely came into the world in form of man, who was then ruling the universe in His absence? Can't you guys see the apparent lies and misfortunes here? If the miraculous birth of Jesus is what confuses the Christians and so, for that reason,they call him, first,the son of God,and later, God, what then would they say of the miraculous creation of Adam and Eve? The Bible, of course, contains some uncompromised words of God, but what it is today isn't but conjecture of some fools. How many versions of Bible are there today in the world?
The Qur'an remains what it was when it was revealed to the unlettered Apostle and would continue to be so forever.Glory be to Allah! The Lord of the worlds, Who begot not and Himself not begotten. In the hierarchy of sins, Atheism is number one, polytheism two, and others follow. The first two are not forgiveable except with sincere repentance before death overtakes man. All other sins are forgiveable even without repentance, if Allah chooses. Christianity falls in the second category. The Christian proposition is an association of partnership with God, giving what His alone to His creation.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by rbjimoh: 12:28pm On Oct 03, 2012
plappville: 1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.
plappville: [color=#990000]1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.
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plappville: 1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.
How can your quote be that of true revelation? 'the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men' How can God be foolish and weak? While the Bible contains some truth from, it has been badly contaminated. Islam is a religion of Allah, your God and the God of creations.
IslamRe: I Am A Muslim by rbjimoh: 10:19pm On Sep 26, 2012
tpia@:
in what way is Islam going to bring about a new world order?


If by new world order you mean conquest of non-muslim nations and compelling them to convert to Islam, then i still fail to see how that's something new given the fact that many Muslim countries now were once Christian.

if, however, by new world order you're referring to the Muslim world itself, then that's an entirely different implication.
tpia@:
in what way is Islam going to bring about a new world order?


If by new world order you mean conquest of non-muslim nations and compelling them to convert to Islam, then i still fail to see how that's something new given the fact that many Muslim countries now were once Christian.

if, however, by new world order you're referring to the Muslim world itself, then that's an entirely different implication.
tpia@:
in what way is Islam going to bring about a new world order?


If by new world order you mean conquest of non-muslim nations and compelling them to convert to Islam, then i still fail to see how that's something new given the fact that many Muslim countries now were once Christian.

if, however, by new world order you're referring to the Muslim world itself, then that's an entirely different implication.
Haven't you noticed that the bulk of the world economic problems are brought about by untamed capitalism? The mad rate of suicides, rape,murder,robbery,alcoholism, drug and insidious vices like those have plagued the west almost to extinction. But have you wonder that all sort of panacea have been amplified but the chasms gets deeper? The thin fabric of everything in those societies is threatening to snap?
Islam is, invariably, the only recourse for the world. Yes, it is the new world order. The headache for the imperialists is how to admit that the system it once scorned now possesses the solution they much needed.
As addendum, have you ever heard a religion or movement in the history of the world that was subjected to the kind of persecution Islam has been subjected to and yet it survived the killing?
PoliticsRe: Lagos Deports Anambra Refugees by rbjimoh: 11:54am On Sep 26, 2012
saintneo: @dudu_negro

Seriously, are you telling me that if former President Obasanjo is seen in Lagos State, he will be deported to Ogun State or Anambra State as in the original post. I find your argument completely out of logic. No one is referencing neither the UN or the US in this argument. This is the kind of argument that drives apartheid, segregation of people without true reason.

Civic responsibility of a citizen versus freedom of a citizen to exist and reside anywhere within the country, please tell me which one comes first. Existence or Action which one presides the other. TO BE or TO DO which one is more pertinent. Before we embark upon any action we must exist, without existence no action can be carried out.

As a result, I ask for the reason why these people should not be allowed to exist. What were their actions or inactions that made them not responsible as Lagosians? What is the civic responsibility of Lagosians? Very rhetorical, I will answer that for you. The civic responsibility of Lagosians is to deny other Lagosians their right to exist. If these people violated any laws and codes of Lagos, then they should face proper prosecution and incarceration if possible; not deportation to MARS.

The only difference between the action of Lagos State Government and an Abortionist trade is murder. Lagos State Government has in every sense of humanity and logic denied these people the opportunity to exist.

Consequently, I stand on my point that this is a violation of the Nigerian citizenry.
saintneo: @dudu_negro

Seriously, are you telling me that if former President Obasanjo is seen in Lagos State, he will be deported to Ogun State or Anambra State as in the original post. I find your argument completely out of logic. No one is referencing neither the UN or the US in this argument. This is the kind of argument that drives apartheid, segregation of people without true reason.

Civic responsibility of a citizen versus freedom of a citizen to exist and reside anywhere within the country, please tell me which one comes first. Existence or Action which one presides the other. TO BE or TO DO which one is more pertinent. Before we embark upon any action we must exist, without existence no action can be carried out.

As a result, I ask for the reason why these people should not be allowed to exist. What were their actions or inactions that made them not responsible as Lagosians? What is the civic responsibility of Lagosians? Very rhetorical, I will answer that for you. The civic responsibility of Lagosians is to deny other Lagosians their right to exist. If these people violated any laws and codes of Lagos, then they should face proper prosecution and incarceration if possible; not deportation to MARS.

The only difference between the action of Lagos State Government and an Abortionist trade is murder. Lagos State Government has in every sense of humanity and logic denied these people the opportunity to exist.

Consequently, I stand on my point that this is a violation of the Nigerian citizenry.
saintneo: @dudu_negro

Seriously, are you telling me that if former President Obasanjo is seen in Lagos State, he will be deported to Ogun State or Anambra State as in the original post. I find your argument completely out of logic. No one is referencing neither the UN or the US in this argument. This is the kind of argument that drives apartheid, segregation of people without true reason.

Civic responsibility of a citizen versus freedom of a citizen to exist and reside anywhere within the country, please tell me which one comes first. Existence or Action which one presides the other. TO BE or TO DO which one is more pertinent. Before we embark upon any action we must exist, without existence no action can be carried out.

As a result, I ask for the reason why these people should not be allowed to exist. What were their actions or inactions that made them not responsible as Lagosians? What is the civic responsibility of Lagosians? Very rhetorical, I will answer that for you. The civic responsibility of Lagosians is to deny other Lagosians their right to exist. If these people violated any laws and codes of Lagos, then they should face proper prosecution and incarceration if possible; not deportation to MARS.

The only difference between the action of Lagos State Government and an Abortionist trade is murder. Lagos State Government has in every sense of humanity and logic denied these people the opportunity to exist.

Consequently, I stand on my point that this is a violation of the Nigerian citizenry.
I'll argue that, in all honesty,the Lagos state government acted constitutionally and in the interest of Lagosians. The latitude that Lagos and, by implication, the southwest have granted people from other regions isn't what Igbo people could do.
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistani Minister Offers Bounty On Anti-Islam Filmmaker's Head by rbjimoh: 10:08am On Sep 24, 2012
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Asiwaju9ja: Trying as hard as u could to sound intelligent and wise. Sorry, you really did not achieve much at least not with me.

Some of ur statements are laughable. How can u talk down on Jesus Christ like that? I go kill o! Lol.

Go to ur Koran "Allah" put him in his virgin mother directly, he did not die, Allah raised him to the heavens. Koran says he will come again. Unless Jesus Christ(Pbuh) is not the same as the Koran's Issa(Pbuh). He never married. That means no sex.
Now, can we say same for Mohammed(Pbuh)?

Incase, you don't know I have read the Qu' ran and I can tell u that most stories of both books are similar, but their msgs later differ as one preaches peace and the other violence. I think you can tell which prophet preaches what in your innermost heart devoid of parochial indoctrinations(meaning, disabusing your mind)
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A Christian Minister's Conversion to Islam
Dr. Jerald Dirks "There is some irony in the fact that the supposedly best, brightest, and most idealistic of ministers-to-be are selected for the very best of seminary education, e.g. that offered at that time at the Harvard Divinity School. The irony is that, given such an education, the seminarian is exposed to ... much ... historical truth. ...As such, it is no real wonder that almost a majority of such seminary graduates leave seminary, not to "fill pulpits", where they would be asked to preach that which they know is not true, but to enter the various counseling professions. Such was also the case for me, as I went on to earn a master's and doctorate in clinical psychology."
Dr. Jerald F. Dirks

Dr. Dirks is a former minister (deacon) of the United Methodist Church. He holds a Master's degree in Divinity from Harvard University and a Doctorate in Psychology from the University of Denver. Author of "The Cross and the Crescent: An Interfaith Dialogue between Christianity and Islam" (2001), and "Abraham: The Friend of God" (2002). He has published over 60 articles in the field of clinical psychology, and over 150 articles on Arabian horses.

Childhood and Education
Struggle for Personal Integrity
Weaving Different Threads into A Single Strand
The Comfort of the Old and Familiar Identity
Playing Intellectual Word Games
Paying A Small Price for A Good Return

'The Cross & The Crescent: Dialogue between Christianity & Islam' by Dr. Jerald Dirks
Childhood and Education

One of my earliest childhood memories is of hearing the church bell toll for Sunday morning worship in the small, rural town in which I was raised. The Methodist Church was an old, wooden structure with a bell tower, two children's Sunday School classrooms cubbyholed behind folding, wooden doors to separate it from the sanctuary, and a choir loft that housed the Sunday school classrooms for the older children. It stood less than two blocks from my home. As the bell rang, we would come together as a family, and make our weekly pilgrimage to the church.

In that rural setting from the 1950s, the three churches in the town of about 500 were the center of community life. The local Methodist Church, to which my family belonged, sponsored ice cream socials with hand-cranked, homemade ice cream, chicken potpie dinners, and corn roasts. My family and I were always involved in all three, but each came only once a year. In addition, there was a two-week community Bible school every June, and I was a regular attendee through my eighth grade year in school. However, Sunday morning worship and Sunday school were weekly events, and I strove to keep extending my collection of perfect attendance pins and of awards for memorizing Bible verses.

By my junior high school days, the local Methodist Church had closed, and we were attending the Methodist Church in the neighboring town, which was only slightly larger than the town in which I lived. There, my thoughts first began to focus on the ministry as a personal calling. I became active in the Methodist Youth Fellowship, and eventually served as both a district and a conference officer. I also became the regular "preacher" during the annual Youth Sunday service.

My preaching began to draw community-wide attention, and before long I was occasionally filling pulpits at other churches, at a nursing home, and at various church-affiliated youth and ladies groups, where I typically set attendance records.

By age 17, when I began my freshman year at Harvard College, my decision to enter the ministry had solidified. During my freshman year, I enrolled in a two-semester course in comparative religion, which was taught by Wilfred Cantwell Smith, whose specific area of expertise was Islam. During that course, I gave far less attention to Islam, than I did to other religions, such as Hinduism and Buddhism, as the latter two seemed so much more esoteric and strange to me. In contrast, Islam appeared to be somewhat similar to my own Christianity. As such, I didn't concentrate on it as much as I probably should have, although I can remember writing a term paper for the course on the concept of revelation in the Qur'an. Nonetheless, as the course was one of rigorous academic standards and demands, I did acquire a small library of about a half dozen books on Islam, all of which were written by non-Muslims, and all of which were to serve me in good stead 25 years later. I also acquired two different English translations of the meaning of the Qur'an, which I read at the time.

That spring, Harvard named me a Hollis Scholar, signifying that I was one of the top pre-theology students in the college. The summer between my freshman and sophomore years at Harvard, I worked as a youth minister at a fairly large United Methodist Church. The following summer, I obtained my License to Preach from the United Methodist Church. Upon graduating from Harvard College in 1971, I enrolled at the Harvard Divinity School, and there obtained my Master of Divinity degree in 1974, having been previously ordained into the Deaconate of the United Methodist Church in 1972, and having previously received a Stewart Scholarship from the United Methodist Church as a supplement to my Harvard Divinity School scholarships. During my seminary education, I also completed a two-year externship program as a hospital chaplain at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. Following graduation from Harvard Divinity School, I spent the summer as the minister of two United Methodist churches in rural Kansas, where attendance soared to heights not seen in those churches for several years.
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Struggle for Personal Integrity
"I became increasingly concerned about the loss of religiousness in American society at large. Religiousness is a living, breathing spirituality and morality within individuals, and should not be confused with religiosity, which is concerned with the rites, rituals, and formalized creeds of some organized entity, e.g. the church. American culture increasingly appeared to have lost its moral and religious compass ... [It] was becoming a morally bankrupt institution, and I was feeling quite alone in my personal religious vigil."

Seen from the outside, I was a very promising young minister, who had received an excellent education, drew large crowds to the Sunday morning worship service, and had been successful at every stop along the ministerial path. However, seen from the inside, I was fighting a constant war to maintain my personal integrity in the face of my ministerial responsibilities. This war was far removed from the ones presumably fought by some later televangelists in unsuccessfully trying to maintain personal sexual morality. Likewise, it was a far different war than those fought by the headline-grabbing pedophilic priests of the current moment. However, my struggle to maintain personal integrity may be the most common one encountered by the better-educated members of the ministry.

There is some irony in the fact that the supposedly best, brightest, and most idealistic of ministers-to-be are selected for the very best of seminary education, e.g. that offered at that time at the Harvard Divinity School. The irony is that, given such an education, the seminarian is exposed to as much of the actual historical truth as is known about: 1) the formation of the early, "mainstream" church, and how it was shaped by geopolitical considerations; 2) the "original" reading of various Biblical texts, many of which are in sharp contrast to what most Christians read when they pick up their Bible, although gradually some of this information is being incorporated into newer and better translations; 3) the evolution of such concepts as a triune godhead and the "sonship" of Jesus, peace be upon him; 4) the non-religious considerations that underlie many Christian creeds and doctrines; 5) the existence of those early churches and Christian movements which never accepted the concept of a triune godhead, and which never accepted the concept of the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him; and 6) etc. (Some of these fruits of my seminary education are recounted in more detail in my recent book, The Cross and the Crescent: An Interfaith Dialogue between Christianity and Islam, Amana Publications, 2001.)

As such, it is no real wonder that almost a majority of such seminary graduates leave seminary, not to "fill pulpits", where they would be asked to preach that which they know is not true, but to enter the various counseling professions. Such was also the case for me, as I went on to earn a master's and doctorate in clinical psychology. I continued to call myself a Christian, because that was a needed bit of self-identity, and because I was, after all, an ordained minister, even though my full time job was as a mental health professional. However, my seminary education had taken care of any belief I might have had regarding a triune godhead or the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him. (Polls regularly reveal that ministers are less likely to believe these and other dogmas of the church than are the laity they serve, with ministers more likely to understand such terms as "son of God" metaphorically, while their parishioners understand it literally.) I thus became a "Christmas and Easter Christian", attending church very sporadically, and then gritting my teeth and biting my tongue as I listened to sermons espousing that which I knew was not the case.

None of the above should be taken to imply that I was any less religious or spiritually oriented than I had once been. I prayed regularly, my belief in a supreme deity remained solid and secure, and I conducted my personal life in line with the ethics I had once been taught in church and Sunday school. I simply knew better than to buy into the man-made dogmas and articles of faith of the organized church, which were so heavily laden with the pagan influences, polytheistic notions, and geo-political considerations of a bygone era.

As the years passed by, I became increasingly concerned about the loss of religiousness in American society at large. Religiousness is a living, breathing spirituality and morality within individuals, and should not be confused with religiosity, which is concerned with the rites, rituals, and formalized creeds of some organized entity, e.g. the church. American culture increasingly appeared to have lost its moral and religious compass. Two out of every three marriages ended in divorce; violence was becoming an increasingly inherent part of our schools and our roads; self-responsibility was on the wane; self-discipline was being submerged by a "if it feels good, do it" morality; various Christian leaders and institutions were being swamped by sexual and financial scandals; and emotions justified behavior, however odious it might be. American culture was becoming a morally bankrupt institution, and I was feeling quite alone in my personal religious vigil.
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Weaving Different Threads into A Single Strand
"My personal values and sense of morality were much more in keeping with my Muslim friends than with the "Christian" society around me. ... my nostalgic yearning for the type of community in which I had been raised was finding gratification in the Muslim community. American society might be morally bankrupt, but that did not appear to be the case for that part of the Muslim community with which I had had contact. Marriages were stable, spouses were committed to each other, and honesty, integrity, self-responsibility, and family values were emphasized. My wife and I had attempted to live our lives that same way, but for several years I had felt that we were doing so in the context of a moral vacuum. The Muslim community appeared to be different."

It was at this juncture that I began to come into contact with the local Muslim community. For some years before, my wife and I had been actively involved in doing research on the history of the Arabian horse. Eventually, in order to secure translations of various Arabic documents, this research brought us into contact with Arab Americans who happened to be Muslims. Our first such contact was with Jamal in the summer of 1991.

After an initial telephone conversation, Jamal visited our home, and offered to do some translations for us, and to help guide us through the history of the Arabian horse in the Middle East. Before Jamal left that afternoon, he asked if he might: use our bathroom to wash before saying his scheduled prayers; and borrow a piece of newspaper to use as a prayer rug, so he could say his scheduled prayers before leaving our house. We, of course, obliged, but wondered if there was something more appropriate that we could give him to use than a newspaper. Without our ever realizing it at the time, Jamal was practicing a very beautiful form of Dawa (preaching or exhortation). He made no comment about the fact that we were not Muslims, and he didn't preach anything to us about his religious beliefs. He "merely" presented us with his example, an example that spoke volumes, if one were willing to be receptive to the lesson.

Over the next 16 months, contact with Jamal slowly increased in frequency, until it was occurring on a biweekly to weekly basis. During these visits, Jamal never preached to me about Islam, never questioned me about my own religious beliefs or convictions, and never verbally suggested that I become a Muslim. However, I was beginning to learn a lot. First, there was the constant behavioral example of Jamal observing his scheduled prayers. Second, there was the behavioral example of how Jamal conducted his daily life in a highly moral and ethical manner, both in his business world and in his social world. Third, there was the behavioral example of how Jamal interacted with his two children. For my wife, Jamal's wife provided a similar example. Fourth, always within the framework of helping me to understand Arabian horse history in the Middle East, Jamal began to share with me: 1) stories from Arab and Islamic history; 2) sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him; and 3) Qur'anic verses and their contextual meaning. In point of fact, our every visit now included at least a 30 minute conversation centered on some aspect of Islam, but always presented in terms of helping me intellectually understand the Islamic context of Arabian horse history. I was never told "this is the way things are", I was merely told "this is what Muslims typically believe". Since I wasn't being "preached to", and since Jamal never inquired as to my own beliefs, I didn't need to bother attempting to justify my own position. It was all handled as an intellectual exercise, not as proselytizing.

Gradually, Jamal began to introduce us to other Arab families in the local Muslim community. There was Wa'el and his family, Khalid and his family, and a few others. Consistently, I observed individuals and families who were living their lives on a much higher ethical plane than the American society in which we were all embedded. Maybe there was something to the practice of Islam that I had missed during my collegiate and seminary days.

By December, 1992, I was beginning to ask myself some serious questions about where I was and what I was doing. These questions were prompted by the following considerations. 1) Over the course of the prior 16 months, our social life had become increasingly centered on the Arab component of the local Muslim community. By December, probably 75% of our social life was being spent with Arab Muslims. 2) By virtue of my seminary training and education, I knew how badly the Bible had been corrupted (and often knew exactly when, where, and why), I had no belief in any triune godhead, and I had no belief in anything more than a metaphorical "sonship" of Jesus, peace be upon him. In short, while I certainly believed in God, I was as strict a monotheist as my Muslim friends. 3) My personal values and sense of morality were much more in keeping with my Muslim friends than with the "Christian" society around me. After all, I had the non-confrontational examples of Jamal, Khalid, and Wa'el as illustrations. In short, my nostalgic yearning for the type of community in which I had been raised was finding gratification in the Muslim community. American society might be morally bankrupt, but that did not appear to be the case for that part of the Muslim community with which I had had contact. Marriages were stable, spouses were committed to each other, and honesty, integrity, self-responsibility, and family values were emphasized. My wife and I had attempted to live our lives that same way, but for several years I had felt that we were doing so in the context of a moral vacuum. The Muslim community appeared to be different.

The different threads were being woven together into a single strand. Arabian horses, my childhood upbringing, my foray into the Christian ministry and my seminary education, my nostalgic yearnings for a moral society, and my contact with the Muslim community were becoming intricately intertwined. My self-questioning came to a head when I finally got around to asking myself exactly what separated me from the beliefs of my Muslim friends. I suppose that I could have raised that question with Jamal or with Khalid, but I wasn't ready to take that step. I had never discussed my own religious beliefs with them, and I didn't think that I wanted to introduce that topic of conversation into our friendship. As such, I began to pull off the bookshelf all the books on Islam that I had acquired in my collegiate and seminary days. However far my own beliefs were from the traditional position of the church, and however seldom I actually attended church, I still identified myself as being a Christian, and so I turned to the works of Western scholars. That month of December, I read half a dozen or so books on Islam by Western scholars, including one biography of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Further, I began to read two different English translations of the meaning of the Qur'an. I never spoke to my Muslim friends about this personal quest of self-discovery. I never mentioned what types of books I was reading, nor ever spoke about why I was reading these books. However, occasionally I would run a very circumscribed question past one of them.

While I never spoke to my Muslim friends about those books, my wife and I had numerous conversations about what I was reading. By the last week of December of 1992, I was forced to admit to myself, that I could find no area of substantial disagreement between my own religious beliefs and the general tenets of Islam. While I was ready to acknowledge that Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a prophet of (one who spoke for or under the inspiration of) God, and while I had absolutely no difficulty affirming that there was no god besides God/Allah, glorified and exalted is He, I was still hesitating to make any decision. I could readily admit to myself that I had far more in common with Islamic beliefs as I then understood them, than I did with the traditional Christianity of the organized church. I knew only too well that I could easily confirm from my seminary training and education most of what the Qur'an had to say about Christianity, the Bible, and Jesus, peace be upon him. Nonetheless, I hesitated. Further, I rationalized my hesitation by maintaining to myself that I really didn't know the nitty-gritty details of Islam, and that my areas of agreement were confined to general concepts. As such, I continued to read, and then to re-read.
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The Comfort of the Old and Familiar Identity
"One's sense of identity, of who one is, is a powerful affirmation of one's own position in the cosmos ... Changing one's basic sense of identity is a most difficult task. One's psyche tends to cling to the old and familiar, which seem more psychologically comfortable and secure than the new and unfamiliar. On a professional basis, I had the above knowledge, and used it on a daily basis. However, ironically enough, I was not yet ready to apply it to myself, and to the issue of my own hesitation surrounding my religious identity. For 43 years, my religious identity had been neatly labeled as "Christian", however many qualifications I might have added to that term over the years. Giving up that label of personal identity was no easy task. It was part and parcel of how I defined my very being."

One's sense of identity, of who one is, is a powerful affirmation of one's own position in the cosmos. In my professional practice, I had occasionally been called upon to treat certain addictive disorders, ranging from smoking, to alcoholism, to drug abuse. As a clinician, I knew that the basic physical addiction had to be overcome to create the initial abstinence. That was the easy part of treatment. As Mark Twain once said: "Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it hundreds of times". However, I also knew that the key to maintaining that abstinence over an extended time period was overcoming the client's psychological addiction, which was heavily grounded in the client's basic sense of identity, i.e. the client identified to himself that he was "a smoker", or that he was "a drinker", etc. The addictive behavior had become part and parcel of the client's basic sense of identity, of the client's basic sense of self. Changing this sense of identity was crucial to the maintenance of the psychotherapeutic "cure". This was the difficult part of treatment. Changing one's basic sense of identity is a most difficult task. One's psyche tends to cling to the old and familiar, which seem more psychologically comfortable and secure than the new and unfamiliar.

On a professional basis, I had the above knowledge, and used it on a daily basis. However, ironically enough, I was not yet ready to apply it to myself, and to the issue of my own hesitation surrounding my religious identity. For 43 years, my religious identity had been neatly labeled as "Christian", however many qualifications I might have added to that term over the years. Giving up that label of personal identity was no easy task. It was part and parcel of how I defined my very being. Given the benefit of hindsight, it is clear that my hesitation served the purpose of insuring that I could keep my familiar religious identity of being a Christian, although a Christian who believed like a Muslim believed.

It was now the very end of December, and my wife and I were filling out our application forms for U.S. passports, so that a proposed Middle Eastern journey could become a reality. One of the questions had to do with religious affiliation. I didn't even think about it, and automatically fell back on the old and familiar, as I penned in "Christian". It was easy, it was familiar, and it was comfortable.

However, that comfort was momentarily disrupted when my wife asked me how I had answered the question on religious identity on the application form. I immediately replied, "Christian", and chuckled audibly. Now, one of Freud's contributions to the understanding of the human psyche was his realization that laughter is often a release of psychological tension. However wrong Freud may have been in many aspects of his theory of psychosexual development, his insights into laughter were quite on target. I had laughed! What was this psychological tension that I had need to release through the medium of laughter?

I then hurriedly went on to offer my wife a brief affirmation that I was a Christian, not a Muslim. In response to which, she politely informed me that she was merely asking whether I had written "Christian", or "Protestant", or "Methodist". On a professional basis, I knew that a person does not defend himself against an accusation that hasn't been made. (If, in the course of a session of psychotherapy, my client blurted out, "I'm not angry about that", and I hadn't even broached the topic of anger, it was clear that my client was feeling the need to defend himself against a charge that his own unconscious was making. In short, he really was angry, but he wasn't ready to admit it or to deal with it.) If my wife hadn't made the accusation, i.e. "you are a Muslim", then the accusation had to have come from my own unconscious, as I was the only other person present. I was aware of this, but still I hesitated. The religious label that had been stuck to my sense of identity for 43 years was not going to come off easily.

About a month had gone by since my wife's question to me. It was now late in January of 1993. I had set aside all the books on Islam by the Western scholars, as I had read them all thoroughly. The two English translations of the meaning of the Qur'an were back on the bookshelf, and I was busy reading yet a third English translation of the meaning of the Qur'an. Maybe in this translation I would find some sudden justification for ...

I was taking my lunch hour from my private practice at a local Arab restaurant that I had started to frequent. I entered as usual, seated myself at a small table, and opened my third English translation of the meaning of the Qur'an to where I had left off in my reading. I figured I might as well get some reading done over my lunch hour. Moments later, I became aware that Mahmoud was at my shoulder, and waiting to take my order. He glanced at what I was reading, but said nothing about it. My order taken, I returned to the solitude of my reading.

A few minutes later, Mahmoud's wife, Iman, an American Muslim, who wore the Hijab (scarf) and modest dress that I had come to associate with female Muslims, brought me my order. She commented that I was reading the Qur'an, and politely asked if I were a Muslim. The word was out of my mouth before it could be modified by any social etiquette or politeness: "No!" That single word was said forcefully, and with more than a hint of irritability. With that, Iman politely retired from my table.

What was happening to me? I had behaved rudely and somewhat aggressively. What had this woman done to deserve such behavior from me? This wasn't like me. Given my childhood upbringing, I still used "sir" and "ma'am" when addressing clerks and cashiers who were waiting on me in stores. I could pretend to ignore my own laughter as a release of tension, but I couldn't begin to ignore this sort of unconscionable behavior from myself. My reading was set aside, and I mentally stewed over this turn of events throughout my meal. The more I stewed, the guiltier I felt about my behavior. I knew that when Iman brought me my check at the end of the meal, I was going to need to make some amends. If for no other reason, simple politeness demanded it. Furthermore, I was really quite disturbed about how resistant I had been to her innocuous question. What was going on in me that I responded with that much force to such a simple and straightforward question? Why did that one, simple question lead to such atypical behavior on my part?

Later, when Iman came with my check, I attempted a round-about apology by saying: "I'm afraid I was a little abrupt in answering your question before. If you were asking me whether I believe that there is only one God, then my answer is yes. If you were asking me whether I believe that Muhammad was one of the prophets of that one God, then my answer is yes." She very nicely and very supportively said: "That's okay; it takes some people a little longer than others."

Perhaps, the readers of this will be kind enough to note the psychological games I was playing with myself without chuckling too hard at my mental gymnastics and behavior. I well knew that in my own way, using my own words, I had just said the Shahadah, the Islamic testimonial of faith, i.e. "I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah". However, having said that, and having recognized what I said, I could still cling to my old and familiar label of religious identity. After all, I hadn't said I was a Muslim. I was simply a Christian, albeit an atypical Christian, who was willing to say that there was one God, not a triune godhead, and who was willing to say that Muhammad was one of the prophets inspired by that one God. If a Muslim wanted to accept me as being a Muslim that was his or her business, and his or her label of religious identity. However, it was not mine. I thought I had found my way out of my crisis of religious identity. I was a Christian, who would carefully explain that I agreed with, and was willing to testify to, the Islamic testimonial of faith. Having made my tortured explanation, and having parsed the English language to within an inch of its life, others could hang whatever label on me they wished. It was their label, and not mine.
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Playing Intellectual Word Games
"I was a Christian, or so I said. After all, I had been born into a Christian family, had been given a Christian upbringing, had attended church and Sunday school every Sunday as a child, had graduated from a prestigious seminary, and was an ordained minister in a large Protestant denomination. However, I was also a Christian: who didn't believe in a triune godhead or in the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him; who knew quite well how the Bible had been corrupted; who had said the Islamic testimony of faith in my own carefully parsed words ... If asked if I were a Muslim, I could and did do a five-minute monologue detailing the above, and basically leaving the question unanswered. I was playing intellectual word games, and succeeding at them quite nicely."

It was now March of 1993, and my wife and I were enjoying a five-week vacation in the Middle East. It was also the Islamic month of Ramadan, when Muslims fast from day break until sunset. Because we were so often staying with or being escorted around by family members of our Muslim friends back in the States, my wife and I had decided that we also would fast, if for no other reason than common courtesy. During this time, I had also started to perform the five daily prayers of Islam with my newfound, Middle Eastern, Muslim friends. After all, there was nothing in those prayers with which I could disagree.

I was a Christian, or so I said. After all, I had been born into a Christian family, had been given a Christian upbringing, had attended church and Sunday school every Sunday as a child, had graduated from a prestigious seminary, and was an ordained minister in a large Protestant denomination. However, I was also a Christian: who didn't believe in a triune godhead or in the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him; who knew quite well how the Bible had been corrupted; who had said the Islamic testimony of faith in my own carefully parsed words; who had fasted during Ramadan; who was saying Islamic prayers five times a day; and who was deeply impressed by the behavioral examples I had witnessed in the Muslim community, both in America and in the Middle East. (Time and space do not permit me the luxury of documenting in detail all of the examples of personal morality and ethics I encountered in the Middle East.) If asked if I were a Muslim, I could and did do a five-minute monologue detailing the above, and basically leaving the question unanswered. I was playing intellectual word games, and succeeding at them quite nicely.

It was now late in our Middle Eastern trip. An elderly friend who spoke no English and I were walking down a winding, little road, somewhere in one of the economically disadvantaged areas of greater 'Amman, Jordan. As we walked, an elderly man approached us from the opposite direction, said, "Salam ‘Alaykum", i.e., "peace be upon you", and offered to shake hands. We were the only three people there. I didn't speak Arabic, and neither my friend nor the stranger spoke English. Looking at me, the stranger asked, "Muslim?"

At that precise moment in time, I was fully and completely trapped. There were no intellectual word games to be played, because I could only communicate in English, and they could only communicate in Arabic. There was no translator present to bail me out of this situation, and to allow me to hide behind my carefully prepared English monologue. I couldn't pretend I didn't understand the question, because it was all too obvious that I had. My choices were suddenly, unpredictably, and inexplicably reduced to just two: I could say "N'am", i.e., "yes"; or I could say "La", i.e., "no". The choice was mine, and I had no other. I had to choose, and I had to choose now; it was just that simple. Praise be to Allah, I answered, "N'am".

With saying that one word, all the intellectual word games were now behind me. With the intellectual word games behind me, the psychological games regarding my religious identity were also behind me. I wasn't some strange, atypical Christian. I was a Muslim. Praise be to Allah, my wife of 33 years also became a Muslim about that same time.
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Paying A Small Price for A Good Return
"For those contemplating the acceptance of Islam and the surrendering of oneself to Allah—glorified and exalted is He, there may well be sacrifices along the way. Many of these sacrifices are easily predicted, while others may be rather surprising and unexpected. There is no denying the existence of these sacrifices, and I don't intend to sugar coat that pill for you. Nonetheless, don't be overly troubled by these sacrifices. In the final analysis, these sacrifices are less important than you presently think. Allah willing, you will find these sacrifices a very cheap coin to pay for the "goods" you are purchasing."

Not too many months after our return to America from the Middle East, a neighbor invited us over to his house, saying that he wanted to talk with us about our conversion to Islam. He was a retired Methodist minister, with whom I had had several conversations in the past. Although we had occasionally talked superficially about such issues as the artificial construction of the Bible from various, earlier, independent sources, we had never had any in-depth conversation about religion. I knew only that he appeared to have acquired a solid seminary education, and that he sang in the local church choir every Sunday.

My initial reaction was, "Oh, oh, here it comes". Nonetheless, it is a Muslim's duty to be a good neighbor, and it is a Muslim's duty to be willing to discuss Islam with others. As such, I accepted the invitation for the following evening, and spent most of the waking part of the next 24 hours contemplating how best to approach this gentleman in his requested topic of conversation. The appointed time came, and we drove over to our neighbor's. After a few moments of small talk, he finally asked why I had decided to become a Muslim. I had waited for this question, and had my answer carefully prepared. "As you know with your seminary education, there were a lot of non-religious considerations which led up to and shaped the decisions of the Council of Nicaea." He immediately cut me off with a simple statement: "You finally couldn't stomach the polytheism anymore, could you?" He knew exactly why I was a Muslim, and he didn't disagree with my decision! For himself, at his age and at his place in life, he was electing to be "an atypical Christian". Allah willing, he has by now completed his journey from cross to crescent.

There are sacrifices to be made in being a Muslim in America. For that matter, there are sacrifices to be made in being a Muslim anywhere. However, those sacrifices may be more acutely felt in America, especially among American converts. Some of those sacrifices are very predictable, and include altered dress and abstinence from alcohol, pork, and the taking of interest on one's money. Some of those sacrifices are less predictable. For example, one Christian family, with whom we were close friends, informed us that they could no longer associate with us, as they could not associate with anyone "who does not take Jesus Christ as his personal savior". In addition, quite a few of my professional colleagues altered their manner of relating to me. Whether it was coincidence or not, my professional referral base dwindled, and there was almost a 30% drop in income as a result. Some of these less predictable sacrifices were hard to accept, although the sacrifices were a small price to pay for what was received in return.

For those contemplating the acceptance of Islam and the surrendering of oneself to Allah—glorified and exalted is He, there may well be sacrifices along the way. Many of these sacrifices are easily predicted, while others may be rather surprising and unexpected. There is no denying the existence of these sacrifices, and I don't intend to sugar coat that pill for you. Nonetheless, don't be overly troubled by these sacrifices. In the final analysis, these sacrifices are less important than you presently think. Allah willing, you will find these sacrifices a very cheap coin to pay for the "goods" you are purchasing.
http://www.islamicbulletin.org/services/new_muslims/DrDirks.htm
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistani Minister Offers Bounty On Anti-Islam Filmmaker's Head by rbjimoh: 1:22pm On Sep 23, 2012
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
@dexmond
Your ex erred by allowing a relationship to evolve between you and herself, in the first place. Women are hardly able to retain their faiths once they are married and the husband's one different from their's. In fact, it hardly happens. But of course Islam is the world only monotheistic religion. So, your ex, as a muslim, should not have fallen in love with you because of your pluralistic faith. Except of course if you had accepted Islam. It is, in fact, better for her that she remains as she is than rejecting her faith because of illusory love.
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistani Minister Offers Bounty On Anti-Islam Filmmaker's Head by rbjimoh: 1:15pm On Sep 23, 2012
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg educate me brother.

I had dis muslim girlfriend for 7yrs, we loved each other or so I thot. I was her 1st if u know wat I mean. We graduated and I wanted to marry her. Her mother refused saying I was a kaferi. Ol boy, if u see how love turn 360 after d meetn wit her parents. This made me want to know what is in that religion that makes dem so hardened? I no know say na God save me. Till today d girl neva marry o!
@dexmond
Your ex erred by allowing a relationship to evolve between you and herself, in the first place. Women are hardly able to retain their faiths once they are married and the husband's one different from their's. In fact, it hardly happens. But of course Islam is the world only monotheistic religion. So, your ex, as a muslim, should not have fallen in love with you because of your pluralistic faith. Except of course if you had accepted Islam. It is, in fact, better for her that she remains as she is than rejecting her faith because of illusory love.
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistani Minister Offers Bounty On Anti-Islam Filmmaker's Head by rbjimoh: 11:34am On Sep 23, 2012
Can anyone tell me that the God, who created the world and everything in it, including Man, isn't able to give to man laws that would stand the test of time? It would be logical to posit that since God sent Jesus as the last prophet, as Christians claim, or Muhammad(pbh) as we Muslims believe, thus ending the channels through which revelations(laws) come to man, He must have equall made the revelations sent to these prophets ones that'll fit all times. Wouldn't that what we should expect as rational men?
Now, can any truthful Christian on this forum tell me that the religion of Jesus,which you call Christianity, is today as was revealed to Jesus 2000 years ago? The answer, of course, is capital NO. Why? Because Christianity was never a religion founded by Jesus(Issa) himself. Rather, a conjecture of people that didn't want to lose their grip on wealth and power. Embellished recollections of things said by Jesus and Moses plus outright wicked lies formed what has come to be known as Christianity today.
Islam, in contrast, is a religion of Allah, the Supreme and Sublime God. The Qur'an is a first-person direct revelation of the Lord of the worlds. In it are Signs that point the 21st century scientists new knowledge of science. When the French scientist that was given assignment by his government to find out the meeting point of both Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, discovered that they actually met in Indian Ocean, he felt elated. But his excitement turned to confusion when he discovered that, though the two Oceans met, but they do not flow into each other and their was no visible barrier demarcating and preventing them from flowing into each other. He explained his puzzle to a colleague of his, who, in turn, told him not to worry. He told him that that mystery was in the 'Book of Muhammad'. The scientist, overwhelmed that his new discovery was contained in a Book revealed to an unlettered Apostle Allah 1370 years, accepted Islam. He couldn't have done otherwise and that was because he was rational and truthful to himself. In essence, the usurpers of the world today shouldn't expect us Muslims to live by their animalistic standards. Our Lord has laid down the rules for us, and we shall do as commanded till the world ceases to be.
'No religion shall be accepted by Allah, except the Surrender(ISLAM)
IslamRe: Questions On The “innocence Of Muslims”. by rbjimoh: 5:17pm On Sep 22, 2012
I believe everyone here will agree with me that the Whites prefer logic over every other things. In fact, they only believe in or do things which they have confirmed to be true and logical. If that is agreed upon, I'll then challenge all Christians on this site to google the statistics of the world fastest spreading religion. You'll find no other but Islam! If that is the case, the next question is why? Many Whites, despite efforts by some people to tarnish the image of Islam, have come to realise the truth in Islam. Many of them, who were hitherto sworn enemies of Islam, in their efforts to search the Qur'an and Sunnah for substances to denigerate Islam actually found that the truth they contain were logical, irrefutable, irresistible and eventually accepted Islam. The facts are there on the internet. Surf through google and you'll read heart-tempering unblemished accounts of how people found Light. That being said, I will state categorically here that the chunk of Muslims in Nigeria, particularly those of the southwest, are at best muslims by birth, but have weak understanding of their religion. No Muslim, I dear say, that understands his religion will ever harbour any iota of doubt about Islam however the circumstance. Islam is too much of facts than that. I am from Osun state myself, but I'm giving you the cardinal reason many southwestern muslims convert to Christianity. It is not because Christianity provided them with what Islam didn't, but it is because their hearts were empty.
Human beings are created to want to have happiness all through their lives. They dont want to suffer. They dont want to be in pain or lose someone dear to them. But, is that possible? The answer is no. Life is about admixture of joy and sorrow. You cannot be happy all through the day, let alone all through your life. Human mood follows the theory of dialectic. Now, Christianity preaches that Sons of Adam are to be in persecutal state of happiness. If you are afflicted with illness, to the Christians, it is the work of the Devil or your neighbour or something like that. It is never the Will of God that has come to pass upon you. Christians worship the figure of their pastors. They accord much reference to the pastors than they do even Jesus that they call 'God' .Islam, in contrary, states it clear that life is unchangeably an alloy of joy and sorrow. Therefore, it is the lack of knowledge of this by some southwestern muslims that make many turn to Christianity when they face difficult challenges. Christians go to church not because they truely want to serve God, but because they are seeking 'miracles'. They live for the NOW. Their concern is about the world and what is in it they could enjoy. Period. The hope of any Muslim isn't about the world but the world beyond. We know, as Muslims, that Allah says: 'If this life and all that it contains were be an iota of weight in Allah's sight, He would not have given the infidels any of it' and so we do not outdo each just for this life.
If you think you have facts to prove me wrong, the floor is yours!
IslamRe: Questions On The “innocence Of Muslims”. by rbjimoh: 2:48pm On Sep 22, 2012
The Jews, despite that the whole of scriptural history is about them, do not have a place to call home, "COUNTRY" Have you paused yourself why? Because their generations have been coursed by God for their arrogance and disobedience.Islam is the true religion of Allah, the Lord of the worlds. Take it or leave it, Islam is the only force that can check the slavery of the world by the US.Islam points man towards logic and what is just.
Christianity EtcRe: Why No Riots Over Jesus's Wife Story? by rbjimoh: 6:56am On Sep 22, 2012
Dudu_Negro: .....to the point of the post, it should be expected that Christians will react in outrage that the image of Jesus was tarnished by such a blasphemous revelation. The revelation was made by followers of Jesus. Who should this outrage be directed against?

Muslims do not riot and go wild when one of their own blaspheme against Mohammed. Its only when its done by non-muslims that they react this way.

In your family if your sister or brother insults your parent it is less offensive than when an neighbor insults your parents.......and you show your displeasure to the neighbor, right? This behavior is valid for all of mankind.

America may not go on rampage for Jesus but they surw went wild when France refused to support Bush in attacking Iraq. They brought out french wine and wasted them on streets and renamed french fries to freedom fries.

So what im saying is this behavioral pattern of becoming enraged when something we hold dear in our hearts is violated is a human trait, it is human nature to do so. What is sacred to you may not be sacred to me......what is patriotism ti me may not be a symbil if patriotism to you. We live and die by ideologies......it is human nature.
Dudu_Negro: .....to the point of the post, it should be expected that Christians will react in outrage that the image of Jesus was tarnished by such a blasphemous revelation. The revelation was made by followers of Jesus. Who should this outrage be directed against?

Muslims do not riot and go wild when one of their own blaspheme against Mohammed. Its only when its done by non-muslims that they react this way.

In your family if your sister or brother insults your parent it is less offensive than when an neighbor insults your parents.......and you show your displeasure to the neighbor, right? This behavior is valid for all of mankind.

America may not go on rampage for Jesus but they surw went wild when France refused to support Bush in attacking Iraq. They brought out french wine and wasted them on streets and renamed french fries to freedom fries.

So what im saying is this behavioral pattern of becoming enraged when something we hold dear in our hearts is violated is a human trait, it is human nature to do so. What is sacred to you may not be sacred to me......what is patriotism ti me may not be a symbil if patriotism to you. We live and die by ideologies......it is human nature.
Dudu_Negro: .....to the point of the post, it should be expected that Christians will react in outrage that the image of Jesus was tarnished by such a blasphemous revelation. The revelation was made by followers of Jesus. Who should this outrage be directed against?

Muslims do not riot and go wild when one of their own blaspheme against Mohammed. Its only when its done by non-muslims that they react this way.

In your family if your sister or brother insults your parent it is less offensive than when an neighbor insults your parents.......and you show your displeasure to the neighbor, right? This behavior is valid for all of mankind.

America may not go on rampage for Jesus but they surw went wild when France refused to support Bush in attacking Iraq. They brought out french wine and wasted them on streets and renamed french fries to freedom fries.

So what im saying is this behavioral pattern of becoming enraged when something we hold dear in our hearts is violated is a human trait, it is human nature to do so. What is sacred to you may not be sacred to me......what is patriotism ti me may not be a symbil if patriotism to you. We live and die by ideologies......it is human nature.
That is not true. Not at all. No muslim, however careless he may be a muslim, will ever blaspheme prophet Muhammad. You need to be a muslim to fully understand why muslims dont want their prophet or God portrayed in any way, be it derogatory or complementary. For us, as muslims, all acts of worship due only to Allah. The right to be worshipped is exclusively Allah's and no man or animal or object deserves to be worshipped other than Him. Now, if people produce a picture of man and portrayed as the prophet Muhammad, as is the case in Christianity, men, with time,would worship that picture. They would hope from it healing and mercy, thereby giving what is exclusively Allah's to mere mortal. And that is worst of all sins in the sight of Allah. No wonder that such calumny is treated with the height of reprehension in islam. Islam is a religion of purity, every rules set clear
PoliticsRe: Lagos To Auction Seized Bullion Van, Truck by rbjimoh: 3:48pm On Sep 21, 2012
dota: d law is stupid,dey shuld av jus put a fine.d law is jus owt to impoverish,d judiciary shuld review it.it is senseles to sel sm1ns thng cos he broke the law dats grave..dre are oda ways to punish
dota: d law is stupid,dey shuld av jus put a fine.d law is jus owt to impoverish,d judiciary shuld review it.it is senseles to sel sm1ns thng cos he broke the law dats grave..dre are oda ways to punish
dota: d law is stupid,dey shuld av jus put a fine.d law is jus owt to impoverish,d judiciary shuld review it.it is senseles to sel sm1ns thng cos he broke the law dats grave..dre are oda ways to punish
Haven't there been fines for traffic offences in the last 5years or so of his administeration? Have people nonetheless been obeying the laws? It wouldn't hurt you to accept that the new law was introduced because people flaunted the former and that was also because it was easy for an offender to pay fines. But would it be easy now to forfeit their vehicles? Please, lets be rational citizens of the world for once.
Foreign AffairsRe: France To Close Embassies Over Cartoon Publication by rbjimoh: 8:44pm On Sep 19, 2012
alkadriyar: i dont blame u. Because the religion u practice can be influence by chinese and japanese conventional ways just as they have succeded in changin and editing the so called holy scripture u study thats the new testament bible as u call it. Not the one given to jesus
You need to understand Islam to realise the unparalleled beauty in it. Perhaps by then you'll understand why those who enslave the world dont want Islam to thrive in their societies. I am proud to be a muslim.
PoliticsRe: Soldiers Open Fire To Disperse Jos Protesters by rbjimoh: 7:28am On Sep 15, 2012
alaoeri: But to be sincere why are non muslim producing such thing to intimidate muslims, this ain't the 1st, 2nd or 3rd time & they know what its all result to. Unlike xtians, muslims doesn't like someone mocking their religion then why not desist from the act for peace to reign.
alaoeri: But to be sincere why are non muslim producing such thing to intimidate muslims, this ain't the 1st, 2nd or 3rd time & they know what its all result to. Unlike xtians, muslims doesn't like someone mocking their religion then why not desist from the act for peace to reign.
alaoeri: But to be sincere why are non muslim producing such thing to intimidate muslims, this ain't the 1st, 2nd or 3rd time & they know what its all result to. Unlike xtians, muslims doesn't like someone mocking their religion then why not desist from the act for peace to reign.
That is it, buddy. Islam doesn't permit depiction of any type -whether derogatory or complementary- of Prophet Muhammad, even of any prophet of God. If we are to be fair, the question we need to ask is whether the muslims themselves have ever produced any movie or portrait or picture depicting prophet Muhammad in any way. You would never find such! Why then do people, knowing that that issue is dangerously inflammable, ignite and push muslims world over to be reactionary? No truely faithful muslim will ever depict Jesus in any light except that he ceases to be a muslim. We muslims respect, to the letter, rights of other people. As muslims, it is incumbent on us to protect our fellow muslims. One of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad(pbh) once met the prophet with a non-muslim, who jacked the prophet by his cloth because the prophet was indebted to him. The companion was annoyed at the sight and attempted to fight the prophet's creditor. But the prophet cautioned him, and told him that he could only help him, the prophet, by asking him to pay off his debt . That explains what right protection means in islam.If we muslims of the southwest dont protest to this type of calumny, it may be because of our cultural conditions and perhaps education. But that might not be so in other climes. Let the west allow the muslim world to rest!
PoliticsRe: Muslims In Jos Protest Film On Prophet Mohammed by rbjimoh: 12:04pm On Sep 14, 2012
Okija_juju: Prophet Mohammed (SAW) must be very insecure.. Its like he cant take a joke of any kind.. Meanwhile the number of carricature pictures of Jesus and God are countless.. Lets not even talk about Buddah and Krishna!

And there is no rule in the Quran that expressly bares Mohammed from being made fun of.. angry

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While it may not be out of proportion to blaspheme Jesus,albeit it is strongly frowned in islamic injunction, blaspheming prophet Muhammad is an intolerable act in islam. The weakest of faith among muslims would never ridicle other religions or what people of other faiths take to be their god. Why wont people understand that issues like this one is too sensational about islam than to make fun of it. Of course, the producer of that film new what reactions to expect before even writting the script. Thats not just fair!
EducationRe: 15-year-Old Nigerian Secures Admission In Harvard by rbjimoh: 3:22pm On Sep 13, 2012
dj187: After una go say awusa people no dey go skool
While I do not write simply to identify with the young lady because she is from my tribe, but I want to point your folly dude for assuming that because both her father and herself bear muslim names and so they must be Hausas. They are invariably not. Not at all. The father's name, Sarafa, is an islamic name peculiar only to the Yoruba muslims
dj187: After una go say awusa people no dey go skool
While I do not write simply to identify with the young lady because she is from my tribe, but I want to point your folly dude for assuming that because both her father and herself bear muslim names and so they must be Hausas. They are invariably not. Not at all. The father's name, Sarafa, is an islamic name peculiar only to the Yoruba muslims
dj187: After una go say awusa people no dey go skool
While I do not write simply to identify with the young lady because she is from my tribe, but I want to point your folly dude for assuming that because both her father and herself bear muslim names and so they must be Hausas. They are invariably not. Not at all. The father's name, Sarafa, is an islamic name peculiar only to the Yoruba muslims
PoliticsRe: Security Beefed-Up In The North Over Movie On Prophet Mohammed by rbjimoh: 8:42pm On Sep 12, 2012
This is another scheme to paint muslims in bad light. The producer of this movie well knew that that movie would be offensive arouse anger of muslims the world over, and yet they produced it. Haven't precedences shown that muslims regard prophet Mohammad with utmost sacredness? Why would this evil people trigger off another bloody outrage in the islamic world, just so they depict us as violent? Why? Can't they see that muslims wont allow their religion to be denigrated, and thats why they dont badmouth other people's faiths. I am terribly sad about this.
RomanceRe: What Are The Signs That She Is Single? by rbjimoh: 6:51pm On Sep 10, 2012
Ladies are, on average, more emotionally intelligent than men. They are able to read guys easily and quickly.They are better able to effectively mask their emotion however turbulent it surges. You may have noticed that a lady has crushes on you, but you approach her, she may yet turn you down. With them, you can never be too sure. Though now different in other blinds, in our society ladies want guys to prove their mettle; prove that guys merit their love, before give in. Ladies dont like to be thought as cheap, they want hold on their ego and self-esteem.
PoliticsRe: Fashola Declines Oba’s Chieftaincy Title by rbjimoh: 7:57pm On Sep 09, 2012
Fashola has ruled Lagos and his performances keep us wondering what other governors have done with their states money. Other than Awo, no Nigerian leader, dead or living, has done half of what Fashola has done. He is a visionery per excellence.
IslamRe: How To Overcome Hardships (The Islamic Perspective) by rbjimoh: 7:56pm On Sep 08, 2012
Allah decrees a Master Plan for every son of Adam 5 months before each of us was born. That Plan includes our lifespan measure of wealth, our fates, e.t.c . If Allah blesses you with a son and He caused him to die at infancy, you'll grieve and ask why Allah took your son. But would you have preferred your son to live to adulthood but become mad or a murderer? Your preference of course would be that he died at infancy . But Allah knew that the first misfortune is better than the latter for you, but you are human and have no way of knowing. He created us and He knows what is best for us. As Sons of Man, we are not able to know what the future holds for us. As we are ignorant of the complex dynamics of what goes within us( our body system) , we also do not know so many things about what happens to us. So, be pleased with and accept whatever fate befalls you. Thank Allah for everything. Seek His forgiveness for your sins. Ask Him to give you persevering countenance in the face of tribulations..
IslamRe: Honest Opinion Of A Sincere Muslim by rbjimoh: 8:35pm On Aug 27, 2012
Have critics of islam ever challenged themselves to know islam, as it is,as opposed to what the western media said it is? Do it today and your mind would be tempered by the words of your Creator. Just google: 'stories of why people come into islam in the west' and you'll be misty-eyed at the end of your read of how great islam is. Haven't you honestly told yourself that no faith could've stood the blasphemy of the critics, as it is against islam, other than true religion? Haven't the so-called men of knowledge tried to find inconsistencies in the Qur'an vis-a-vis scientific evidences and only found Qur'an propositions far ahead of thinking of mortal men? Haven't you read that the meeting of Indian ocean and atlantic ocean, where there is no physical barrier seperating them but do not flow into each other, discovered by a Friend scientist in 1940s, had being a truth told in the Qur'an since its revelation?...have you...
IslamRe: Honest Opinion Of A Sincere Muslim by rbjimoh: 7:48pm On Aug 27, 2012
Islam is a religion of peace. Anything short of that isn't Islam. As muslims, we go by the greeting: salam, which is peace. The irrefutability of the logic of Islam as a true religion cannot be missed by any rational human being. Its the only religion that has stood the test of time. Latest scientific discoveries have only came to confirm what the Qur'an told Man 1436 years ago. No wonder many people in the western hemisphere are turning into Islam. But it is regrettable today that many muslims in our clime here are turning away from Islam. And thats perhaps because they dont know what their religion means,and in fact they dont know. Otherwise, how could anyone sees the truest Light and yet chose darkness? Being muslim is comparable to anything else. Our worldview as muslims transcends what many paints it to be.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Adexen Calls For Test At Chams City on Saturday 17 Sept. 2011 by rbjimoh: 5:14pm On Oct 07, 2011
@kewt, I also got a mail from them and it says that my profile was transfered to unilever,that the next process of the exercise would be communicated to me soon. It's vague! Does yours read the same?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Adexen Calls For Test At Chams City on Saturday 17 Sept. 2011 by rbjimoh: 3:34pm On Oct 05, 2011
I also did the second stage of the test. The guy that assessed me countered many of my points for the first exercise,but I got all the questions in second exercise since they were surely mathematics. How did you fare?
Jobs/VacanciesWaec Postponed Interview! by rbjimoh(op): 11:05am On Jul 13, 2011
House, I got a call from someone in the late hours of yesterday, telling me that the interview for WAEC job slated for 16/07/11 had been shifted and that new date would be communicated to me in due course. Does anyone have similar story?
Jobs/VacanciesIei Achor Pension Is Recruiting! by rbjimoh(op):
Marketing position. if are intrested please send a text of your details as follow:
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Jobs/VacanciesWaec Interview? by rbjimoh(op): 2:32pm On Jul 04, 2011
Those of who that have done your interview already should please share your experience with us, so that we could get ourselves prepared.

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