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Christianity EtcRe: In What Capacity Is Adeboye Expected To Intervene Here. by Recognise: 8:18pm On Sep 05, 2009
Pastor AIO:
Every anointed person is a messiah . . .
@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

Haba! Every anointed person is a messiah? . . .

Wetin now . . .  There is only one Messiah - there is only one Christ

Does Matthew 16:15-17 & 20 help jolt your memory? wink

Which one you dey naw? Erh?. . .


[center]While I thought I have been learning to live, I have been learning to die[/center]
Foreign Affairs5 Banks Closed by Recognise(op): 7:28pm On Sep 05, 2009
Um not peculiar to Naija it apparently seems . . .

[size=16pt]Five banks closed by U.S. regulators[/size]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bank regulators closed four Midwestern banks and one in Arizona on Friday, bringing to 89 the number of U.S. banks to fail this year as deteriorating loans continue to take their toll on financial institutions.

The closed banks were Vantus Bank in Sioux City, Iowa, InBank in Oak Forest, Illinois, Platinum Community Bank of Rolling Meadows, Illinois, the First Bank of Kansas City in Missouri and the First State Bank of Flagstaff, Arizona, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp said.

Vantus Bank was the largest of the five institutions to close, with total assets of $458 million and total deposits of about $368 million.

InBank had total assets of $212 million and total deposits of about $199 million while the First State Bank of Flagstaff, Arizona had total assets of $105 million and total deposits of approximately $95 million as of July 24. The First Bank of Kansas City, which has one branch, had total assets of $16 million and total deposits of about $15 million.

The Office of Thrift Supervision said that Platinum Community Bank had total assets of $148 million while the FDIC estimated its assets as $345.6 million as of August 29, 2009.

The five failures will cost the FDIC deposit insurance fund an estimated $401.3 million, the agency said.

In 2008, 25 U.S. banks were seized by officials, up from only three in 2007.

The insurance fund's balance dipped to $10.4 billion at the end of the second quarter, but that level does not include the additional $32 billion that the FDIC has set aside to cover the cost of bank failures over the next year.

In September, Seattle-based lender Washington Mutual became the biggest bank to fail in U.S. history, suffering from losses from soured mortgages and liquidity problems.

The FDIC will insure up to $250,000 per account at the closed banks.

The agency also has running a tally of problem banks that its examiners closely monitor. At the end of the second quarter, 416 undisclosed institutions were on that list.

FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair has said bank failures will remain elevated even as the economy begins to recover because the bank industry is continuing to recognize loan losses and clean up their balance sheets.

She has said the industry's woes are migrating from residential loans and complex securities to more conventional types of retail and commercial loans that have been hit hard by the recession. (Reporting by Diane Bartz; editing by Carol Bishopric)

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CrimeRobber Flees Bank With Pillowcase Full Of Money by Recognise(op): 7:13pm On Sep 05, 2009
[size=16pt]Robber Flees Bexley Bank With Pillowcase Of Cash[/size]

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Robber flees bank with pillowcase full of money. Police are left wondering how he sleeps at night grin

BEXLEY, Ohio — Police are hopeful that surveillance images can help them identify the man who held up a bank late Friday morning.

The robbery occurred at the First Bexley Bank, located on East Main Street, at about 10:50 a.m., the FBI said.

A man wearing a mask and carrying a handgun entered the building and ordered everyone inside to the floor.  He then ordered a teller to fill a blue pillowcase with cash.

The teller complied and the robber fled the bank on foot.  He was last seen running northbound from the building.

The FBI on Friday released surveillance images showing the robber outside of the bank.   Investigators said the man was also recorded inside the building by a surveillance camera, but they did not show his face because of the mask.

Anyone with information about the robbery was asked to call Bexley police at 614-559-4444.

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Christianity Etc"Drive-thru Prayer Stand" - a Drive-thru Ministry Attracting Motorists by Recognise(op): 7:01pm On Sep 05, 2009
[size=16pt]Drive-thru ministry attracting motorists in Pinal[/size]

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Matthew Cordell, left, prays with John Templeton
as he operates a prayer stand along Hunt Highway near Queen Creek.


Roadside fruit vendor was the inspiration for minister's "drive-thru prayer stand"

Vendors set up along Hunt Highway in San Tan Valley to peddle everything from turtles and mattresses to tamales.

But a newcomer to the scene doesn't have a ware to sell.

Hand-painted fiberboards welcome motorists to Matthew Cordell's roadside stop with this message: "Prayer Stand, Drive Thru Open."

Cordell, 38, has become a familiar sight in recent weeks to morning commuters on Hunt Highway east of Gary Road.

He's there from 6-10 a.m. on most Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, waiting for customers with his "assistant," a friendly 5-year-old Chihuahua named Skye.

People stop by to make a variety of prayer requests, from the healing of ailments to the safety of children going to college for the first time.

"They pull in, I go up to the window, we can pray and they pull out," Cordell said. "And people know they can have their needs met. It seems to be a real blessing."

One woman pulled in on her way to Urgent Care for chest pains. He said the pains subsided with prayer, and she went home instead. In another instance, Cordell said a man with a severe brain injury began improving following his intercession.

Cordell doesn't look the part of a minister, nor does he want to be one. He's a former body-shop worker who felt God was calling him to missions work. A roadside fruit vendor was the inspiration for his prayer ministry.

That was in the spring, but he said he wasn't ready. Illness and personal issues sidelined his plans until mid-August, when his pastor began preaching a series about leaving one's comfort zone behind. It was like "a kick in the head," Cordell said.

"When it's something God wants you to do, you can't get away from it," he said. "You keep running from it, and misery is just going to follow you. Once you (accept) this is what you're called to do, you're going to realize that the blessings were just waiting for you all along."

Most people drive past the white canopy erected at the entrance of an empty fenced-in parking lot. Christian music pumps from car speakers, its volume competing with the din of passing traffic.

The first prayer seekers of the day begin to show up about 7 a.m.

On one recent morning, 32-year-old Sergio Alvarez pulled up in a black Nissan Sentra. His wife had given birth to their first child, a girl they named Brianna Isabella, less than two hours earlier.

Alvarez, who was still wearing a hospital band on his wrist, asked for a prayer of blessing.

Cordell clasped one of Alvarez's hands in both of his own and closed his eyes.

"Dear God, what an incredible miracle, God, the miracle of life, Lord," Cordell said. "I want to pray a blessing on this child, God, that she'll have a healthy life, she'll grow up knowing you, Lord, and God that you'll give them the courage and strength and knowledge in you to bring her up in your ways."

When the prayer was through, Alvarez thanked Cordell and promised to stop by a week later with his wife and the new baby.

Pinal County Sheriff's deputies have stopped by, too, after passersby called 911 to report traffic being backed up for miles near the prayer stand.

Cordell complied with the deputy's request to move the stand down the road but wasn't asked to leave completely.

The Sheriff's Office and county code enforcers have been clamping down on roadside vendors accused of obstructing the right of way and trespassing on private property in San Tan Valley. District councilman Bryan Martyn said the county is exploring ordinances to manage them.

"Right now, the rogue vendors, we need to control that aspect," Martyn said. "If you're in the right of way I'm going to have to ask you to move along in the interest of public safety."

It's not clear whether the prayer stand falls in that category, but Martyn said he's intrigued by Cordell's mission and plans to stop by.

"As a Christian brother I'm really interested in what he has to say. He wouldn't be out there if there wasn't a need in the community. Right now, a lot of people just need someone to listen to them."

And Cordell does.

He said people have been so open with him and quick to reveal things some might think taboo. He notes from each prayer request on his cell phone and often refers to the list when seeking divine intervention throughout the day.

Cordell's goal is for people to hear about his prayer stand and start one of their own. A church in Chandler followed his lead by offering drive-thru prayer one evening last week.

His wife asked him if he was upset about someone else taking his idea.

"I said, 'What are you, crazy?'" he said, laughing. "That's what I wanted. It wasn't my idea, it was God's."

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PoliticsRe: Gani Fawehinmi Passed On? by Recognise: 5:57pm On Sep 05, 2009
[size=16pt]Gani Fawehinmi[/size]
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Early life

Fawehinmi, popularly called Gani, was born on 22 April 1938, into the Fawehinmi family of Ondo, in Ondo State and died on the 5th of September 2009 at age 71.

His father, Chief Saheed Tugbobo Fawehinmi, the Seriki Musulumi of Ondo was a successful timber magnate, a great philanthropist, an opponent of excessive taxation of the poor and a deeply religious muslim leader. He was reported to have brought Islam to Ondo Town. Chief Saheed Tugbobo Fawehinmi died on 5 February 1963 at the age of 89 years.

Gani's grand father was the Late Chief Lisa Alujanu Fawehinmi of Ondo, who engaged in several successful battles for and on behalf of the Ondo people in the nineteenth century. Hence, the appellation the 'Alujanun', which means spirit. He died at the age of 92.

Gani had his early education at Ansar-Ud-Deen Primary School, Iyemaja - Ondo from 1947 to 1953 and his secondary school education at Victory College Ikare, a Christian School from 1954 to 1958, under the leadership of the Late Rev. Akinrele where he sat for and passed his West African School Certificate Examination in 1958.

Law Student

Gani enrolled at the Holborn College of Law- University of London to read law in 1961. While at University, his father died. He completed his degree in London with a measure of difficulty due to lack of funds(From his father). This involved doing various menial jobs in London.

While in college, he was popularly known as "Nation" because of his passionate interest in national, legal and political affairs. He was an avid reader of Daily Times and West African Pilot, the most popular newspapers at that time.

In 1993 Fawehinmi was awarded the biennial Bruno Kreisky Prize. This prize, named in honour of Bruno Kreisky, is awarded to international figures who advance human rights causes. In 1998, he received the International Bar Association's Bernard Simmons Award in recognition of his human-rights and pro-democracy work. In 1994 he and some other notable Nigerians formed the National Conscience Party of Nigeria which exists till today and he stood for a presidential election in 2003 under the umbrella of the National Conscience Party.

Gani Fawehinmi became a holder of the Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) the highest legal title in Nigeria in September, 2001

Critic of Military Dictatorship and Corruption

With his boundless energy he tenaciously and uncompromisingly pursues and crusades his beliefs, principles and ideals for the untrammelled rule of law, undiluted democracy, all embracing and expansive social justice, protection of fundamental human rights and respect for the hopes and aspirations of the masses who are victims of misgovernance of the affairs of the Nation.

Dele Giwa

In 1986, while Chief Gani Fawehinmi was Dele Giwa's Lawyer, the latter was killed in a bomb blast under suspicious circumstances .

As a result of his activities chief Gani Fawehinmi, had been arrested, detained and charged to court several times. His international passport was seized on many occasions and his residence and Chambers were searched several times. He was beaten up time after time and was deported from one part of the country to another to prevent him from being able to effectively reach out to the masses among whom he was popular. His books were confiscated by the Federal Military Government and his library at Surulere , a suburb of Lagos were set ablaze. His law Chambers at Anthony Village, Lagos State, were invaded by persons suspected to be agents of the government 26 August 1994. The guards were shot,seriously wounding two of them.

In the process of his crusades for the rule of law, the hopes and aspirations of the poor and the oppressed, he fought many battles against military dictatorship as a result of which he had been arrested several times by the military governments and its numerous security agents. He was dumped in many police cells and detained in several prisons between 1969 and 1996.

His supporters have called him "the scourge of irresponsible governments, a sphygmomanometer with which the blood pressure of dictators is gauged, the veritable conscience of the nation and the champion of the interests and causes of the masses".

His promotion to becoming the Senior Advocate of the country was delayed as a way to victimise him. Eventually, he got the award in 2003 i.e. the Senior Advocate of Nigeria.

Rejection of National Award

In 2008 Mr Gani Fawehinmi rejected the highest order that can be bestowed on a citizen by the Nigeria government—Order of the Federal Republic(OFR)—in protest of the many years of misrule since Nigeria's independence.

Many Nigerians call him the people's president.

Death

Gani, as he is fondly called, died in the early hours of 05 September 2009 after a prolonged battle with Cancer. He was 71 years old.

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RIP . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Help! by Recognise: 11:30pm On Aug 28, 2009
Phemm1:
Hello brethren,

I need your help, am having an assignment on disciples and the world.

Any materials.

Thanks Phemmy
@Phemm1

G is your friend and can help you out . . .  wink
Christianity EtcRe: Do True Christians Sin? by Recognise: 11:27pm On Aug 28, 2009
Huxley:
. . .  Amen and God bless you!
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. . .  Amen and God bless you!?

Am I imagining a stint of sarcasm there grin

CrimeRe: Togo (nigerian) Man Admits Smuggling Girls To Nj Hair Salons by Recognise: 6:22pm On Aug 28, 2009
Afaukwu:
He is Yoruba. You guys should just own up and stop being in denial.

That he is Togolese (if indeed he is) does not affect his Yoruba[b]ness[/b].
@Afaukwu

Get a grip . . .

Lassissi Afolabi is Togolese just as much as Sheyi Emmanuel Adebayor

who plays for English Premier League team Manchester City

and the Togo national team as a striker.
CrimeOwen ALI-BALOGUN - Raped & Defiled a Prostitute by Recognise(op): 8:06pm On Aug 26, 2009
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        Owen Ali-Balogun,
          described as "a Tottenham man",
          knocked a prostitute unconscious
          before raping her & defiling her body.


A VIOLENT Tottenham man has been jailed for eight years and placed on the sex offenders register for life after raping a prostitute he had knocked unconscious.

Owen Ali-Balogun, 28, of Vartry Road, appeared at Lewes Crown Court, in East Sussex, this afternoon after being convicted at the Old Bailey on June 22.

In the early hours of Wednesday December 3, 2008, the 43-year-old sex worker was soliciting in Seven Sisters when Ali-Balogun came out of an off-licence, approached her and propositioned her for sex.

The pair entered a small park area at Manchester Road, in Tottenham, and Ali-Balogun started to touch her before handing over payment.

When the victim rebuffed his advances he delivered a heavy blow to her head which knocked her unconcsious.

It was then, when she was unable to defend herself or run away, that Ali-Balogun raped her and defiled her body.

The victim woke to find her face bleeding and her body aching which resulted in extensive bruising to her back, neck and head.

Sentencing Judge David Rennie said Ali-Balogun posed a "serious and significant risk to the public" having displayed a disturbing pattern of violence that was over and above a serious level of force.

He added: "You chose to hurt and humiliate her for pleasure."

The High Court judge imposed an indeterminate term with a compulsory eight years.

Ali-Balogun, who gave the victim the finger during the trial, had been released from prison on licence just three weeks earlier following a robbery conviction.

He will now have to serve the remainder of that term and his eight-year rape sentence will start in March 2012.

After the attack the brave victim sought help from a passer-by and made her way to a friend’s house and was encouraged to report the incident to police.

An investigation was launched and the woman was taken to The Haven, a specially designated place for survivors of Rape and Sexual Assaults, where she received support and was examined.

Ali-Balogun was eventually caught after officers identified vital CCTV evidence of a man wearing clothing as described by the victim in the off-licence prior to the attack.

DNA evidence obtained from the woman’s clothing identified Owen Ali-Balogun.

On January 14, 2009, police searched his home and found a black hat with ear flaps and a black jacket that matched the clothing described by the victim and identified as being worn by the suspect on CCTV.

He was arrested and charged on January 15, 2009.

Investigating officer Detective Constable Amanda Christodoulou, of Haringey’s Sapphire Unit, said: "Owen Ali-Balogun’s conviction is testament to the strength and bravery of the woman who came forward and gave evidence. This was a callous, vicious attack and she still bears the scars of what this man did to her.

"I feel honoured to have worked with such a brave woman and hope that she can try and move forward with her life, knowing her attacker has been taken off the streets.

"We encourage victims of rape to have the confidence to come forward to police as soon as possible. Every single allegation will be investigated professionally and sensitively and we will do everything in our power to bring those responsible to justice".

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Christianity EtcRe: Lesson For Dads (and Mums) by Recognise: 8:06pm On Aug 24, 2009
On behalf of my fellow lord and peer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgPh3DalmM&hl=en&fs=1[/flash][/center]
CrimeRobbers Abducted Boy Who Recognised Them, Then Took Him Away For Rituals by Recognise(op): 9:06am On Aug 23, 2009
[size=16pt]Robbers Abducted Boy Who Recognised Them, Then Took Him Away For Rituals[/size]

  https://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/15082009/images/feat2.jpg
  Lekan, the abducted boy
IT was a tale of woe and sobbing for the family of Agboolas of 17D, Iwajowa area, around Awotunde Olosunde area of Olorunsogo, Akanran road, Ibadan, in the early hours of Saturday, July 25, 2009 as Olalekan Agboola, a nine-year-old Primary III boy was carried away by a gang of bandits who stormed their area.

Olalekan Agboola is a grandchild of Mr. Moses Agboola and Mrs. Olufunke Agboola. According to them, Lekan, as fondly called, had been with them since birth because his biological father, one Akeem, impregnated, nine years ago, their daughter, Toyin, the biological mother of Lekan, and refused responsibility of the pregnancy.

“Since the birth of Lekan, when we discovered that his father, Akeem, had refused to be responsible for the pregnancy, we had taken it up as our responsibility to train Lekan up, hence the surname, Agboola, he bears till today,” Mrs. Funke Agboola explained.

According to the Agboolas, the robbers stormed their house at about 3.45 a.m that day, ransacking and asking them to surrender their money and other valuables. After dispossessing them, the robbers reportedly went away, only to return one or two minutes later and abduct Lekan.

What could have prompted them to abduct Lekan? This seems the question anybody would ask. Or did the robbers primarily invade the house to kidnap the innocent boy? In truth, they did not come to steal humans, rather money and other treasures, but unfortunately, one event led to the other.

Reports said that it was the innocent utterance of the boy that landed him in trouble. As the robbers were leaving the house, probably at the threshold, after stripping the head of the family, Mr. Moses Agboola of N510, Lekan was reportedly said to have uttered a statement which revealed that he could identify one of the invaders, named Rilwan.

“Aunty Titi, a se buoda Rilwan ore buoda Kamo ni won n deru ba wa, meaning aunty Titi, can’t you see it is brother Rilwan, Brother Kamo’s friend, scaring us?” Lekan was reported to have spoken thus.

“It was when they heard and knew that Lekan had been able to identify one of them that they came back and led him away,” Titi, Mr. and Mrs. Agboola’s daughter said.

Early in the morning that same day, the incident was reported at the Divisional Police Headquarters, Ogbere, Akanran road, Ibadan. Before long, the police’s searchlight beamed around and Kamo was arrested, which subsequently led to the arrest of Rilwan.

Initially, several arrests, which included the landlady of Rilwan, Kamo, who facilitated Rilwan’s procurement of accommodation in the area, Rilwan’s father, among others, were made.

When Rilwan was nabbed by the police, he confessed to the offence and gave the police names and addresses of other members who took part in the operation.

Subsequently, one Dayo Adesola, 20, and his father, Adebayo Adesola, 46, who is said to be the syndicate’s babalawo (priest) were arrested around Monatan area of Ibadan.

According to investigation, Rilwan, 19, who was said to have allegedly changed accommodation more than five times this year, was said to have handed over the boy to Adebayo Adesola, who has refused to disclose where the boy was. It was also revealed that Rilwan’s real name is Sefiu as claimed by his father.

The case currently has been transferred to the Homicide Section, State CID, Iyaganku. Efforts to speak with the police authorities proved fruitless as they claimed that the case was still being investigated.

Nevertheless, the case was brought from mentioning at the Magistrate’s Court, Mapo, Ibadan, where Rilwan (Akin Hassan), Adebayo Adesola and Dayo Adesola were charged with conspiracy, robbery and kidnapping, while Chief Magistrate, Sunday Olutunde, adjourned the case till September 16.

As the suspects were being returned to the custody of security agents, there were insinuations around the court premises that one of the suspects revealed to some inmates in the prison that some parts of the boy had been used for rituals.

Speaking with Saturday Tribune, “I want to see Lekan dead or alive; if they’ve used some of his parts, they should give me the remaining body to bury; if they’ve not killed him, they should please return him to me ,  I beg well-meaning Nigerians to intervene in this case , ” Mrs. Funke Agboola cried out.

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Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Jesus Christ? by Recognise: 12:57am On Aug 23, 2009
Abuzola:
Do you want me to quote a verse and if I do then you are the liar ?
@Abuzola

- Abu

Sure!

Of course. Go for it . . .  grin


Have a good happy search grin
Christianity EtcRe: Meaning Of "No One Is Good Except God Alone" by Recognise: 12:49am On Aug 23, 2009
Olabowale:
Omnipotence: Unlimited Power! I wonder what is limitation in there>
Olabowale

- Olabowale

You wonder?

Go over your YES' in questions #3, #4. #5 and #6

By your admissions, you replied back with an affirmatives,

that YES, it is impossible for GOD to be a "son of man" etc . . .

Where is the rationale of omnipotency then?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Jesus Christ? by Recognise: 12:14am On Aug 23, 2009
Truthonly:
Read through once more Abuzola.

Read slowly this time.

The nature of God Almighty is 1. Father, 2. The Word(Son) and 3. The Holy Spirit

The Father is that part of God that's permanently on His throne in Heaven.

The Word is His expressions that give instruction, direction(light) and carries His power.
This Word was delivered to a virgin called Mary by an Angle and that word she believed
produced in her, what it spoke of; a baby Jesus(who Himself was the Word)

And the Holy Spirit is the doer of the Word(God's instruction, direction). He causes God's
wish to be. The Holy Spirit is the one who came into the earth after Jesus died, resurrected
and ascended back into Heaven.

The Holy Spirit is the one living in the Church of Jesus Christ today. He lives in the Christians
who have received Him by Faith. He is the one who teaches us the Word of God, He enlightens
us on the realms of God and leads us in Victory all the time.

The Holy Spirit
@Truthonly

- Truthonly

You're not doing bad, not doing bad at all . . .  wink

We are watching, reading & following. We've got your back wink wink

Understanding how MONARCHS & KINGDOMS operate is one of the keys to grasping the whole shebang

Please allow me to briefly chip in a bit & step back . . .  smiley

@Abuzola

- Abu

"In two or three verses you quoted, Jesus said the father is greater than him.  

If Jesus and His father are one in mere context it will be contradiction hence it becomes parable,
" you stated

Hey, questions please:

1) Is OBAMA; Michelle's husband the same person as OBAMA the President?

2) Who is greater, OBAMA as Michelle's husband or OBAMA as President?

I keep reminding you that theology is not your forte

so stop deluding yourself & stop bamboozling others

Jesus wasn't/isn't a "Messenger" and messenger was never a title used by Jesus

Messengers are Angels (i.e. Angelos in Greek or Malaika in Hebrew)
Christianity EtcRe: Meaning Of "No One Is Good Except God Alone" by Recognise: 11:37pm On Aug 22, 2009
olabowale:
@Recognise: Thanks for your best wishes. I wish . . . Now to your questions.

1) Is there anything impossible for GOD?: Unless He does not want to do it, based on His Position as the Creator. Impossibility is for creations

2) Is GOD too proud to be "humilated" coining your phrase? : Pride belongs to Allah alone. Those humans who say they have pride are liars

3) Is it impossible for GOD to turn up legally & operate on earth the right way for that matter?: The earth is meant for creations

4) Is it impossible for GOD to render Himself vulnerable to the point of weakness for example?: Creations are weak. Creator is never weak

5) Is it impossible for GOD to become a "Son of man"  & be subjected to the whims & mercy of man? No. man is a creation, Adam is the first

6) Is it impossible for GOD to be in more than one place at the same time? : From His Honored Position, He see, knows, hears everything all in one go

7) Is GOD omnipotent at all? . . . : The Onmipotence is consistence to His Supremacy, Power, Knowledge, Creative ability, never dying
olabowale:
@Recognise

I am always wishing people, in my sincere mind, the best . . .

1). As I have stated, there are two categories; The Creator, alone and the rest are the Creations. The Creator, God will not do somethings for example. He forbids them for Himself, so he restricts Himself from them. One of them is Injustices. Another is partnership. If there is a partner, then the Unique position of Himself as the sole Creator is not there, hence you may have a tug of war between two bosses! This single idea destroys Trinity. Now as to if there is Impossibility for God: my answer stands as stated above. There are things that do not fit His Majesty. Why do them, even if it is not difficult to be done. It is impossible that it will ever happen. Lets look at it this way: a real man will not want to be a woman, or ask another man to mount him. You will never find a King in the royal clothing doing the cleaning of his palace while the citixens are looking on.

2). Is humiliation a befitting experience for a king, by his subject? Does it make sense for President Obama comes out on the White House lawn and says to a citizen to pelter him with raw eggs, just because he is trying to show how noble the occupant of the Oval office is? No. This simple thing sets him apart. Then compare that to the Creator! What is the point of subjecting Himself to humiliation, okay humility when He is the Sole Forgiver of all sins?

3). Is it not Majestic enough by His Mercy that He sent Human Messenger/Prophets to Humans, proiding complete guidance, to avoid sins and punishment and seeking His Mercy and Forgiveness, guaranteed by simple humanly possible deeds? Allah did not request of us anything impossible, hence there is no need to act as a man, just to proof a point, whereas the Human prophets, your kind are not adequate, if it is true that you wish to belief?
olabowale:
4) Why vulnerable and why weak? Allah has shown Kindness, Mercy, etc by restricting Himself and allowing His Mercy to Overcome His Punishment! Have you seen a situation that a creation sees a vulnerability and weakness of another creation and never capitalize on it? Just imagine if it is true that Jesus was God, the Creator, and when the Christian said that he was seized and later on tortured and killed, tose period of his death could have seen much chaos among creations? No? Another point against deity of Jesus!

5). Why should the Creator humanise Himself? He demacates His position and role, different than that of the creations. While He needs nothing from creation, creation on the other hand needs everything from Him!

6). The line in my hand can not be unseen by me when I stretch my hand in the sunlight? Yes. The plainliness of this in my sight, is not as intensed as how all creations put together is in the full control of its Creator. Why then shoul this Creator the Only Superior Being not maintain His Position? Allah says I Rise Above My Throne! That say plenty, that even His Throne is beneath His majestic Position! We do not have a Lord God Creator cooked up in a chair, a throne  or something that restricts Him! Allah is above all of these things and He is in Total Control of everything. If I can have see my palm each time I stretch my opened hand in my front, should I have to go to that palm, hand, arm that I control?

7). There is nothing hiding, unseen, unknown, beyond hearing, beyond the complete knowledge, sight, etc of Allah. This is omnipotency at its Most Superior! And there is none that is omnipotent, along with Him!
olabowale:
1) Is there anything impossible for GOD?

2) Is GOD too proud to be "humilated" coining your phrase?
YES. If thats what you want. Pride is the GARMENT/RAINMENT of God. No one else

3) Is it impossible for GOD to turn up legally & operate on earth the right way for that matter?
Yes. It will not serve any purpose that human messenger is not fit enough to serve. A believing heart does not need unnecessary evidence so that he can believe

4) Is it impossible for GOD to render Himself vulnerable to the point of weakness for example?
Yes. Humiliation belongs to creation. The altimate Humiliator is Allah. Why would He have to experience what He has designed as a means of punishment to the disbelievers?

5) Is it impossible for GOD to become a "Son of man" & be subjected to the whims & mercy of man?
Yes. He does not have a parents and He is not a child of and or a father of anyone. That unique position separates Him from those who are created. Even Adam and or Eve who have no parents. Afterall, Jesus had a mother! Thats a parent. A beginning.

6) Is it impossible for GOD to be in more than one place at the same time?
Yes. Creation is just one thing, as a whole to Him, even though it is complex in your eye. While it is impossible to you, it is very easy for the Amighty to control everything from His Superior Position.

7) Is GOD omnipotent at all? . . .
Yes. Now I have to go serve the Omnipotent Allah by offerng my Asr Salah which He ordained on me.
@ Olabowale

- Olabowale

Phew! Thanks. We have them eventually. Had to literally prise the binaries out of you grin

Better late than never I say huh? wink

Interesting binaries, interesting submissions to validate the binaries too . . .  grin

Noticed I've compiled together your threads running up to eventually having your binaries responses . . .
grin question #1 is blank & unanswered. I wonder why? grin

With whats in hand so far from you.

Your admissions & affirmation?

Tut-tut-tut, It showed you up and highlighted a wobbly & shaking theology

You say GOD is omnipotent,

yet you've just limited GOD with impossibilities left, right, center & all over the place grin

Remember the corrupted template? smiley

You and I briefly jaw-jawed & delved on the issue the year last smiley


[center]"While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."[/center]
Christianity EtcRe: Meaning Of "No One Is Good Except God Alone" by Recognise: 10:35pm On Aug 22, 2009
$Osisi:
olabs let me tantalize your taste buds this afternoon
@$Osisi

- $Osisi

Hmm, yummy, very sumptuous and mouth-watering

but its not fair  grin smiley

Tantalise him after September 19th grin wink wink

@Olabowale

-Olabowale

Still waiting for the binaries,

remember dont change my questionings . . .

Just give a YES or NO with/and your justification(s) to questions #1); #2); #3); #4); #6) and #7)

Once I have the binaries, you can then waffle on as much as you like
Christianity EtcRe: Meaning Of "No One Is Good Except God Alone" by Recognise: 9:50pm On Aug 22, 2009
Olabowale:
@Recognise:

I am always wishing people, in my sincere mind, the best . . .

1). As I have stated, there are two categories; The Creator, alone and the rest are the Creations. The Creator, God will not do somethings for example. He forbids them for Himself, so he restricts Himself from them. One of them is Injustices. Another is partnership. If there is a partner, then the Unique position of Himself as the sole Creator is not there, hence you may have a tug of war between two bosses! This single idea destroys Trinity. Now as to if there is Impossibility for God: my answer stands as stated above. There are things that do not fit His Majesty. Why do them, even if it is not difficult to be done. It is impossible that it will ever happen. Lets look at it this way: a real man will not want to be a woman, or ask another man to mount him. You will never find a King in the royal clothing doing the cleaning of his palace while the citixens are looking on.

2). Is humiliation a befitting experience for a king, by his subject?

Does it make sense for President Obama comes out on the White House lawn and says to a citizen to pelter him with raw eggs, just because he is trying to show how noble the occupant of the Oval office is? No. This simple thing sets him apart. Then compare that to the Creator! What is the point of subjecting Himself to humiliation, okay humility when He is the Sole Forgiver of all sins?

3). Is it not Majestic enough by His Mercy that He sent Human Messenger/Prophets to Humans, proiding complete guidance, to avoid sins and punishment and seeking His Mercy and Forgiveness, guaranteed by simple humanly possible deeds?

Allah did not request of us anything impossible, hence there is no need to act as a man, just to proof a point, whereas the Human prophets, your kind are not adequate, if it is true that you wish to belief?
@Olabowale

- Olabowale

Am feeling you . . . no doubt grin

but hey with all due respect. Please. Please, please give us the binaries first before the waffle

Give us an admission of YES or NO to the questions

after a YES or NO, you can then waffle as long and as much as you want grin

Thank you . . .  smiley

PS: Dont change my questionings . . .

Just give a YES or NO with/and your justification(s) to questions #1); #2); #3); #4); #6) and #7)
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Ok To Pay My Tithes To Different Churches? by Recognise: 9:10pm On Aug 22, 2009
Jagoon:
Why are you goons ranting rubbish,

the RCC introduced tithing to christianity after the council of tours in the year 567AD,

they have since realized that preaching compulsary tithing is evil and heretical

and they no longer indulge in such demonic practises,

yet the criminally inspired pentecostal movement

who are an off shoot of the catholic protestants still adhere to it becos of the filthy lucre they derive from it.

Their judgement is already concluded 2 Peter2:1-3
Taa-da!-  light bulb moment? grin grin grin

Chukwudi44 must be a chess player and saw me coming in with a kill . . .  grin

Read the moves on the board and refused to take the bait grin

Fairplay to you my men wink

and the goons know themselves . . .  grin

and yes the RCC instituted tithing & used to excommunicate for non-payment of it . . .

It was that bad  grin


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then to read on some data on tithing Click here

Remember its not about tithing at all

Afterall "To be tight or Not to be tight" - should be the question grin[/center]
Christianity EtcRe: Meaning Of "No One Is Good Except God Alone" by Recognise: 8:55pm On Aug 22, 2009
Olabowale:
@Recognise: Thanks for your best wishes. I wish you same and even better than what you wish me.

I pray that Allah soften your heart to accept Islam, the deen of Allah on human beings. Now to your questions.

1) Is there anything impossible for GOD?:
Unless He does not want to do it, based on His Position as the Creator. Impossibility is for creations

2) Is GOD too proud to be "humiliated" coining your phrase? :
Pride belongs to Allah alone. Those humans who say they have pride are liars

3) Is it impossible for GOD to turn up legally & operate on earth the right way for that matter?:
The earth is meant for creations

4) Is it impossible for GOD to render Himself vulnerable to the point of weakness for example?:
Creations are weak. Creator is never weak

5) Is it impossible for GOD to become a "Son of man"  & be subjected to the whims & mercy of man?
No. man is a creation, Adam is the first

6) Is it impossible for GOD to be in more than one place at the same time? :
From His Honored Position, He see, knows, hears everything all in one go

7) Is GOD omnipotent at all? . . . :
The Onmipotence is consistence to His Supremacy, Power, Knowledge, Creative ability, never dying
@Olabowale

- Olabowale

Some interesting responses there grin

Thanks for obliging, thanks for the accomodation and your sincere responses

grin Your prayer though, yeah, sincere, borders on the wishful thing line grin

Sorry, that kind of prayer or wish hasnt got the chance of ice in hell grin

Anyways that is another matter on its own.

Right lets get back to the original matter in hand

Please answer the questions in binaries

Only question #5 has a binary response backed up or followed with justifications

It was nice having the back ups because it preempts me needing to ask you for them - Thanks smiley

It is imperative, we need binaries for questions #1); #2); #3) #4) #6) & #7) to precede your responses or answers

After you"ve responded, we'll take it from there . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Ok To Pay My Tithes To Different Churches? by Recognise: 8:11pm On Aug 22, 2009
Chukwudi44:
@Oladeegbu, Recognise

What has all this bible quotations got to do with tithes,

show me anywhere in the Bible where christians practised tithing?

Jesus was here on earth for 33 years and he never demanded tithe from anybody,

the apostles who continued after him never demanded tithes, 

how come titihing is practised in today's christianity?

Even if I  were to assume that tithing is still valid

how come the frequency of tithe was unscripturally increased from once in 3 years to now daily,weekly or monthly

as it is practised today?

How come money was unscpricturally substituted for agricultural products?

I want to state here that I am not against freewill donation as practised by the biblical christians,

What I am fighting is the criminal heresy

that christians are required to pay 10 percent of their earnings to
their different church[/b]es.

To [b]prove
me wrong show me anywhere in the Bible

that tithing was practised after the fulfilment of the law by Jesus
@Chukwudi44

- Chukwudi44

I think I recall what you are but not exactly sure . . . hence my "rain check" to confirm

Dont shy away from answering my earlier questions that you cleverly selectively ignored

Possibly it skipped your mind responding to them so am reiterated them below smiley

1|) Are you  a christian,

2) a christian RCC,

3) a  RCC christian,

4) or just RCC

"Christian RCC" means Christian first then RCC following and vice versa  smiley

What number are you? Are you #1), #2), #3) or #4)

It'll be nice to know and could put things into perspective . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Disowns Wife Of 15 Years In Court by Recognise(op): 4:09pm On Aug 22, 2009
tpia.:
I'm tired of all these divorce cases.

I just read one in the newspaper where a pregnant woman in Nigeria wants to divorce her husband and the man was even begging her to stay.

Her reason for divorce? She doesnt love him anymore.

God help us all.

I dont know the whole story sha but the thing is alarming.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=152230
@Tpia

- Tpia

Oh well, if man of God is unable hold his house together & keep his marriage

what chance has congregation, huh?

Did you notice the bit . . . no longer interested in the marriage and I don’t like him anymore,’’ she said in her petition."

grin Marriage is all about liking now . . . feelings

Someone surely is doing a good job at dismantling the institution to its fabric & core

If one is unable to keep a relationship with another that can be seen

what chance has one keeping a relationship with a GOD, that's literally unseen . . .

Seeing or reading about people in authority messing up always gets my goat - the FAR-TO-SEE Pharisee
Christianity EtcPastor Disowns Wife Of 15 Years In Court by Recognise(op): 3:41pm On Aug 22, 2009
[size=16pt]Cleric Disowns Wife Of 15 Years In Court[/size]
By Omobola Tolu-Kusimo

IT was drama at Ketu Grade 'B' Customary Court when a clergyman with Celestial Church of Christ, Rufus Awoleye, told his wife of 15 years that he never married her but only assisted her as a girlfriend during the period.

The plaintiff, Mrs. Wura Awoleye, Iya Ijo (mother of the flock) of the church had sued Awoleye, an evangelist-cum-shepherd for the dissolution of their marriage.

Before the suit, the couple had lived together for 15 years. The union was blessed with a male child, who later died.

Wura accused Awoleye of planning to kill her physically and spiritually, adding that "he beats me frequently and that there is no more love between us."

Awoleye in his defence denied all allegations and claimed that they were meant to blackmail him.

" The petitioner is my friend who on her own volition, decided to bear my surname for her convenience. There is no form of marriage either legal or customary between us and I challenge the petitioner to produce any such marriage documents in the court.'

He disclosed that as a result of the suspicion of the petitioner that he was no longer serious with the relationship, she tried to burn his church.

Awoleye therefore prayed the President of the court, Chief. Alfred Gbose to dismiss Wura's request because "there is no marriage of any kind between us," adding that "it was mere friendship."

for SOURCE: [url=http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/article02//indexn3_html?pdate=040709&ptitle=Cleric%20Disowns%20Wife%20Of%2015%20Years%20In%20Court&cpdate=040709]Click here[/url]
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Ok To Pay My Tithes To Different Churches? by Recognise: 3:03pm On Aug 22, 2009
OLAADEGBU:
@Recognise

My fellow soldier in Christ,

Check out the passage below

and see how the Bible blew the cover of the likes of this Psalm 41:9 friends

who pretend to have the cause of the poor and needy at heart.

Look at the story of Judas below . . .

Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,

Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? 

This he said, not that he cared for the poor;

but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein


. . .  Then said Jesus,

"Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.

For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always
"

Here you can see how the present day Psalms 41:9 friends cannot stand the giving to the work of God

because they are "really concerned about the poor". undecided


-- John 12:1-8
OLAADEGBU

-OLAADEGBU

True talk, true talk fellow lord & peer . . .

Bet you already know why peeps especially "christians" are po grin

noticed its po even worse than poor grin

Its because they only follow the person of Jesus alone

and dont follow His principle(s) hence the po poor position

The irony is that unbelievers (i.e. the world) on the other hand follow the principle(s) of Jesus to prosper

but stops short at following the person of Jesus.

The person & principles of Jesus is a complete package, kinda like a coin, they go hand-in-hand together

The head & tail makes a coin a legal tender.

Without either on a coin, the coin is a dud, a fake

The person & principles of Jesus leads one to Salvation & Prosperity
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Recognise: 2:50pm On Aug 22, 2009
OLAADEGBU:
My fellow soldier in Christ,

Well, the Bible, as you can see, is fresher than tomorrow's newspaper.

Even back in the days of David, he had a time travel machine to tell him of that shady character, Judas.

But what is more amazing is that it also portrays some peeps who pretend to be concerned about the poor

and needy but would not want tithes and offering to be practised.

Look at the story of Judas below . . .

. . .  Then said Jesus,

"Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.

For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always
"

Here you can see how the present day Psalms 41:9 friends cannot stand the giving to the work of God

because they are "really concerned about the poor". undecided


-- John 12:1-8
OLAADEGBU

-OLAADEGBU

True talk, true talk fellow lord & peer . . .

Bet you already know why peeps especially "christians" are po grin

noticed its po even worse than poor grin

Its because they only follow the person of Jesus alone

and dont follow His principle(s) hence the po poor position

The irony is that unbelievers (i.e. the world) on the other hand follow the principle(s) of Jesus to prosper

but stops short at following the person of Jesus.

The person & principles of Jesus is a complete package, kinda like a coin, they go hand-in-hand together

The head & tail makes a coin a legal tender.

Without either on a coin, the coin is a dud, a fake

The person & principles of Jesus leads one to Salvation & Prosperity
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Garden Of Eden? by Recognise: 2:04pm On Aug 22, 2009
OLAADEGBU:
. . . B.I.B.L.E. = B[/b]asic [b]I[/b]nstructions [b]B[/b]efore [b]L[/b]eaving [b]E[/b]arth
[b]@^

Also famously referred to as:

[b]B[/b]egineers [b]I[/b]nstruction [b]B[/b]ook for [b]L[/b]iving on [b]E[/b]arth

OR

[b]B[/b]elievers [b]I[/b]nstruction [b]B[/b]ook for [b]L[/b]iving on [b]E[/b]arth

[center]While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die.[/center]
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Jesus Christ? by Recognise: 1:52pm On Aug 22, 2009
Alimat 2 (f) on: August 12, 2009, 03:31 PM :
Post #1 on: Who Is Jesus Christ?

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Who really is Jesus Christ?

Is he God, Son of God, Son of Man, Son of David, Incarnate of God, Part of Trinity, Prophet/messenger of God e.t.c
 
cos i believe its not possible for one person to be all this.

Xtians please your candid responce is needed
Alimat 2 (f)

- Alimat 2 (f)

Do you really want to know?

If Yes, then three questions for you

1) Are you prepared and ready for the Truth?

2) If Truth stares you in face eye ball to eye ball would you recognize it? . . . Hmm?

3) Can you grasp and handle the Truth if dropped into your lap? Huh?

Please dont embark on what you arent prepared to see to the end grin

Anyways let's kick off with these familiar and similar openings  grin

Who really is Alimat 2?

Is she a person, a human being, someone's  child, daughter of someone, part of the Alimat 2 family? . . .

Hmm, is she an employer or a worker, a wife, an aunty, a sister, a mother, a CEO, a female, a woman/lady etc

Really would like to know whether its possible for Alimat 2 (f) to be all these at the same time grin

We anxiously but patiently await your responses to questions 1; 2 & 3 above grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Ok To Pay My Tithes To Different Churches? by Recognise: 1:06pm On Aug 22, 2009
OLAADEGBU:
@Chukwudi44 & Ogajim,

Save your sermons for your Psalms 41:9 friends, as for me I still lay claim to Philippians.4:19. tongue
@OLAADEGBU

- OLAADEGBU

My fellow lord and peer

grin Loved that Psalms 41:9 quote grin

grin Trust the Bible to already have a "song lyric" for back then and modern time Judas' grin

Brilliant 419 quote off the Bible - well spotted grin

Yup! as for I and my household we too are Philippians 4:19  wink

@Chukwudi44

Not exactly sure of this though . . .

Is Chukwudi44 a christian, christian RCC, RCC christian, or just RCC

"Christian RCC" means Christian first then RCC following and vice versa  grin

It'll be nice to know and could put things into perspective . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Recognise: 1:02pm On Aug 22, 2009
OLAADEGBU Today at 12:20:41 PM :
Re: #113 Is It Ok To Pay My Tithes To Different Churches?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-311092.96.html

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@ Chukwudi44 & Ogajim,

Save your sermons for your Psalms 41:9 friends, as for me I still lay claim to Philippians.4:19.
@OLAADEGBU

- OLAADEGBU

Fellow lord an peer

grin Loved that Psalms 41:9 quote grin

grin Trust the Bible to already have a "song lyric" for back then and modern time Judas' grin

Brilliant 419 quote off the Bible - well spotted grin

Yup! as for I and my household we too are Philippians.4:19  wink

@Chukwudi44

Not exactly sure of this though . . .

Is Chukwudi44 a christian, christian RCC, RCC christian, or just RCC

"Christian RCC" means Christian first then RCC following and vice versa  grin

It'll be nice to know and could put things into perspective . . .
TravelTourists Face Fines Over Fake Gear so be Forewarned Over Fake Goods by Recognise(op): 8:14am On Aug 22, 2009
- a FYI wink

[size=16pt]Tourists warned over fake goods [/size]

Holidaymakers could be fined thousands of pounds for buying fake designer gear when they go abroad, lawyers have warned.

Authorities in countries like France and Italy are stepping up a campaign against those who peddle counterfeit goods as well as those who buy [/b]them. Fines in France can rise up to 300,000 euro (£260,000).

Copyright solicitor Nicholas Phillips is [b]warning tourists against bringing back fake designer sunglasses, sports gear, handbags and watches.


He told the BBC: "The most likely thing to happen to British tourists if they walk through customs with a counterfeit Louis Vuitton bag is customs officers will tap them on the shoulder and take it away from them.

"They will also potentially fine them twice the value of the original bag, not the fake. [That] may run to several thousand euros - imagine twice that."

The European Commission has raised fears about the growing involvement of organised international criminal gangs in the market for fake goods.

It said recently: "Without doubt, one of the principal methods of dispersing counterfeits is the 'ant-like' traffic of tourists returning home from holiday, bringing back souvenirs."

Susie Winter, director general of the Alliance Against Intellectual Property Theft - which represents creative industry - said: "We would urge people to think about where their money is going.

"These are not cheeky chappies making an honest living on a Sunday morning, these are hardened criminals."

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