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You couldn't even use the 'Quote' button correctly. Go take your meds. The one you took in the morning is wearing off.

LiberatedGirl:
Youre a Lunatic, a rabid rapid Rabies Dog. Why must you Comment to my Thread ? I can never Comment to your daft posts. Mad man who can create just 4 Threads in 9 years but like a souless Zombie roaming Nairaland to contribute his idiosy 1,000 times. Can't you stand on your own you SPINELESS COWARD ?

Someone with sense will argue that the person who created nearly 70 meaningless posts in less than 3 months is a lot crazier than the person who created 4 posts in 9 years. How jobless can one be to open 70 posts here in less than 90 days?! Do you even have a life outside of this platform?

Check my contributions in the culture section and then compare them with your "Oh my boyfriend sent me a picture, oh I am so tired, oh I took a bus to Ibadan and I am very hungry now, oh, I haven't watched my GoTV today" posts that you litter Nairaland with.

LiberatedGirl:
Let me guess you were once a patient there. I see they couldn't cure you. You're all over my Threads like a Mentally ill SIMP. And you're so mentally ill you think you are some smart person. You are heavily Deluded, Derailed and Daft . I've seen your type a clown of the Nigerian Society. You belong in a Zoo. No Wonder Yaba Psychiatry Could not Cure you. All over my thread and Constantly watching everything I do. Jobless Lowlife who thinks he is a highlife. Sucking the xxxx if his fellow men to get ahead in life.

I'm not all over your thread, that's just you flattering yourself. I can count the number of comments I have left on your myriads of threads on one hand.

I hope you get the help you need. (And this is not me trolling you; I genuinely hope you get some much needed help.)

LiberatedGirl:
SIMP OF THE YEAR .Let me guess you were once a patient there. I see they couldn't cure you. You're all over my Threads like a Mentally ill SIMP. SIMP OF THE YEAR. And you're so mentally ill you think you are some smart person. You are heavily Deluded, Derailed and Daft . SIMP OF THE YEAR .I've seen your type a clown of the Nigerian Society. You belong in a Zoo. No Wonder Yaba Psychiatry Could not Cure you. SIMP OF THE YEAR. All over my thread and Constantly watching everything I do. Jobless Lowlife who thinks he is a highlife. Sucking the xxxx of his fellow man to get ahead in life. SIMP OF THE YEAR.

Get off the internet and get help. You're not alright.

Igo9:
hmmm,,, I should enter google post it so you can believe, because your believe will give me money, Right?

If you don't have data to enter google and see the news then asked me for data help...

Okay, you were entertaining for a while. Now you're just boring. Abeg, gettat.

Igo9:
lol..
Umahi said it, go google the news

And yet you will not post a link where he said it, only showing me a picture you edited in your hut in Obotebe.

Ogogoro drinker, this is what Dave Umahi actually said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/punchng.com/igbo-has-investments-everywhere-were-not-part-of-biafra-umahi/%3famp

Umahi said Ebonyi will not be part of Biafra. Now I know some of you are too slow to understand that there's a difference between Biafra (a proposed political state) and Igbo (an ethnolinguistic group), but there is. Now I also know you don't know this, but many Igbos do opppse the idea of Biafra.

Read the article above and show me where Umahi said his people are not Igbos. He, as a matter of fact, affirmed his Igboness in the article.

When they tell you to leave kai kai and focus on school so you no go dey misunderstand wetin person yard, you refused.

[quote author=Igo9 post=109501096][/quote]LMAOOO! Na now I confirm say you dey smoke lizard shit. This thing here na evidence of Ebonyi people denying being Igbo? Chai. Kai kai adirokwo mma o.

Let me also show you evidence that Kiagbodo people in Delta State deny being Ijaw.

Igo9:
we understand them...

If there is one thing you people are good at, it is lying. Go and tell this lie to someone who doesn't know the area well. Ordinary Nembe and Kolokuma can't understand each other's Ijoid languages. No Ijaw person understands wetin Defaka people in Nkoro dey talk. Andoni, Abua, Ogbia, Odual, Apoi, Engenni, etc are a different matter all together because those ones don't even speak Ijoid languages to begin with.

But even nsukka language is different from Igbo language

Nsukka that I went to for a traditional wedding this December and I was speaking my dialect and they were speaking theirs and we were communicating just fine?

You will just drink kai kai early in the morning and be typing nonsense from one creek.

Igo9:
did the Birmingham people denied english?
but in this case ebonyians denied been Igbo..
Igbos also calling ebonyians osu

Shey I have asked you to show proof of 'Ebonyians' denying Igbo, you kept quiet.

I gave you the name of an Ebonyi man who recently served as President-General of Ohanenze Ndigbo, you kept quiet.

I mentioned the very Igbotic Maria Ude Nwachi who is from Ebonyi, you kept quiet.

What of Chief Akanu Ibiam, a pioneer of Igbo nationalism in the early colonial era who was from the area that is now Ebonyi State?

What of the IPOB leader Simon Ekpa, a son of Ebonyi?

What of the young and vibrant Mazi Ogbonnaya Okoro, a prolific writer of Igbo novels, a teacher of the Igbo language and an aggressive defender of Igbo language, culture and interest, who is from Ebonyi?

If you dey run mad, go find your colleagues for Yaba Left and leave the internet.

Igo9:
Ijaws understand one another, mr man.

Though, there are differences..

But in this case, ebonyians and Igbos can never understand each other languages, that's the fact..

Taa! You don't understand an Nkoro man when he speaks his language, let alone an Obolo man (who you people keep claiming are Ijaw.)

I

Probz:
“When someone from the Black Country (West Midlands) speaks their conc. dialect, no-one from Liverpool, Manchester or London would understand them.

Are Birmingham indigenes not English on that premise? Is the second-largest city in England not an English city again by virtue of the fact that their local dialect just happens to be conc. as hell? Is intra-national diversity not supposed to be something to encourage rather than ostracise people for?

Omo, leave that guy. Na jonse im dey jonse.

I just found out he is Ijaw. Ijaws are the last people in this country who should even try to use linguistic/dialectal diversity to argue against the ethnic cohesion of any people-group in this country. No 'ethnic group' in Nigeria is as linguistically diverse as the Ijaw. Ijaw will claim Odual, Abua, Obolo (Andoni), Degema, etc are Ijaw, but none of these groups even speaks an Ijoid language/dialect. Even the Defaka people of Nkoro that do speak an Ijoid language, their language is so divergent that mainstream Ijaw people don't understand them.

Yet this Ijaw boy here wants come and talk about Ebonyi.

Igo9:
Ibibios are cut into abia state from cross river state... You don't know anything about south east... I will be your teacher but you can ask your brothers here...

Okay. No wahala. I don't know. Ngwanụ mention one village in Abia that is an Ibibio village and uses ibibio as a first language. Educate me, nna, because I don't know anything about the Southeast.

Now to Ijaws of south east..
Ndoki-Ijaws of abia state..

Egbema-Ijaws of imo state...

Though, they are minorities within those states...

Let me talk about 'Egbema-Ijaws' first, because that one made me burst out laugh. Walahi. You idiots on Nairaland won't kill me. Because how can someone that has sense not know that the Ijaw-speaking Egbema in Delta and the Igbo-speaking Egbema in Imo are not related in any way!

And wetin be Ndoki-Ijaws? So because of a shared relationship with the Ibani (who speak Igbo, by the way, in addition to their Ibani dialect) you want to slap the Ijaw label on the Ndoki who speak Igbo and no Ijaw, not even as a second language. Will you GOH!

Go google ethnicities in abia...

Horseshit, you hear? What you're googling is horseshit.

Igo9:
Example, the afikpos who will never identified with Igbo

The lies that you people tell about Igbo people go choke una one day.

The same Afikpo that Chief Gary Nnachi Enwo-Igariwey, the former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, comes from.

The same Afikpo that the founder of the aggressively pan-Igbo group "Igboist" on Facebook (Maria Ude Nwachi a.k.a. Afikpo Chic) comes from.

Why Igbo matter dey give una sleepless nights?

Igo9:
I don't need to ask one person because they already speaking in large numbers that they are not Igbos..

I could tell from a long way off that you created this post to make mischief. The indigenes of Ebonyi State are not speaking in any large numbers that they are not Igbo. That is a lie.

But even if they were, and you knew they were, why then are you asking in this post if they were Igbo, since you already know? You don't need to pretend you are asking questions. Slander Igbos with your full chest.

Why are there this many busybodies on Nairaland, btw?

Igo9:
ethnicities that are indigenous to south east
Igbo
Ibibio
Igala
Ijaw etc

Mention one Ijaw and one Ibibio village in the southeast. The villages you mention must be shown to be speaking Ijaw and Ibibio dialects.

Igo9:
I wanted to believe the Ebonyians are Igbos.

The language of ebonyians is different from the Igbo language..
When ebonyi man speaks, Abia, Imo, Enugu, Anambra man will not understand and same way ebonyi man will not understand the language of the later, vice versa.
But the only understandable language uses by both tribe is the centre Igbo language which they (ebonyians) learnt..

We also have seen lots of occasions where Igbos called ebonyians osu...

We have also seen in many occasions where ebonyians said they are not Igbos...

Are the Ebonyians truely Igbos?

Have you asked the ones you met if they are Igbo and they said no?

samuk:
These guys are jokers. He wants reference from you when I have been waiting almost 2 years for him to show me the reference to his claim that Zik's account of 1930s were different from his 1970 autobiography.

In April of 2020, on a thread about Agbor, I mentioned you and added a screenshot from Zik's 1930s paper and included an explanation of the screenshot. I actually mentioned you , i.e., tagged your comment!

What did you do? You returned to the thread, responded to all the other comments that I mentioned you on, but you carefully avoided that particular one.

After a while, I asked you pointedly to respond to the screenshot that you ignored, and you gave an off-hand response, and since then have continued to act like the 1970s autobiography was the only time Zik ever talked about Onitsha origin.

Now, I hate repeating myself. If I show you now that I have actually shown you the screenshot before and you ignored it, what should happen to you?

I mean, by now I should be used to it, but it still leaves me baffled how audacious Benin people are in spinning yarn!

It used to be the Western Igbo (a.k.a., Anioma) who the Benin claimed to have been part of their empire. Now, in recent years (no later than 2 or 3 years) Nairaland Benin boys have added ALL of Igboland to their empire. What Benin liars cannot do does not exist.

Jameseddi1:
In your heart you truly know how Benin was so great only that you just don’t want accept that the empire cover many Yoruba land of today and all Igbo of today

Your evidence that Benin empire covered ALL of Igboland is a screenshot of Olaudah Equiano's Wikipedia page?

AreaFada2:
The guy is a clown. He thinks he can order anyone around to do his bidding.
The Igbo/Yoruba collabo over Benin Empire denial is very sweet, isn't it? Such collabo never leads to no good. Even way back Zik and Awo could not callobo to take 9ja forward.

They will soon be at each other's throat over Tinubu's presidency, IPOB/ESN and their other divisive antics. Their tribal divisiveness is what they want to spread to Edoid people. Failed mission.

I just come to laugh at them now and then these days.

Have you found the Landolphe quote yet, sir?

Jameseddi1:
there is nothing like Germany dynasty in British right now you can just say an Origin of German.

But when they say Benin dynasty what do this mean. This mean administration was run by Benin.

Benin dynasty simply means Benin was in control.

If this is how you want to look at it, then there was nothing like Benin dynasty in Igala. You can just say an origin in Benin.

There is no evidence that the administration of Idah was run from Benin or that Benin was in control in Idah. That's just nonsense you made up.

We know that when the Onoje of Uromi was facing the armies of Oba Ozolua, he ran to the Ata of Idah to beg for military assistance. Egharevba recorded this. We also know that when the Oliha was involved in palace intrigues with the Oba of Benin, he tried to obtain the Ata of Idah's help to stage a palace coup, although it failed. This wouldn't make sense if Benin was in control at Idah. You cannot run to a subordinate kingdom to obtain military assistance against the 'ruling power'. That would be like Ireland in 1945 coming to Nigeria or the Gold Coast to obtain military assistance to fight the British Empire, when that same British Empire was ruling in Nigeria!

The Igala kingdom based at Idah was by all ramifications an independent sovereign kingdom and a rival kingdom to Benin. These are the facts. Go and read your history books.

The only account of war between Idah and Benin that has been passed down to us was the Idia War during the time of Esigie, and in this war, Idah, and not Benin, was the belligerent party, i.e., it was Idah that carried war into Benin territory and not the other way around. They lost the war, but the import of the account is that Idah was the one on the offensive.

So if you say Benin forcefully overran Idah and planted a dynasty there by force of arms, you'd better have some credible references to back it up.

samuk:
The same cannot be said about Benin who took most places by force, similar to Roman empire and the British empire who also took Nigeria and other countries by force and installed British Governor Generals.

.....the Aji Ata (or Bini) Dynasty, under which a total of six Bini-speaking Atas ruled, had forced itself on the Igala Kingdom in 1507 AD

At this point you should know I don't say things I can't back up. Can you present a scholarly reference for Benin taking Igala by force? Professor Boston collected oral traditions in the 1940s and 1950s (published around 1960) which shows that an exiled Bini prince was invited by the elders of Idah during a period of power vacuum in the capital and made their ruler. There was no force involved, and the people of Idah do not have a tradition of paying tribute to Benin.

Jameseddi1:
How can Benin at one time establish a dynasty in Igala without first setting it in Asaba onitcha? How can them even pass?

Idah is just across the Niger from Esan villages. Benin could access Idah (Igala) from their holdings in Esan land. They didn't need to secure Asaba and Onitsha first. That would be an unnecessarily long, circuitous and torturous path.

samuk:
You shouldn't have mentioned me. You are the one that have been claiming that Zik wrote something in the 1930s which was different from his 1970 autobiography, despite my repeated request, have you provided the evidence. Your anti-Benin antics is very well known here.

The screenshot from the 1930s has been posted on this forum by myself multiple times. Every other person has seen it, except yourself because you are selectively blind. The threads I posted it on were threads that you and other Bini posters here were active on. So don't tell me you didn't see it. Will I post it again? I will be a mad person to keep posting the same screenshot over and over again.

My posts are still here, you can see the screenshot if you wish to, by searching through my profile. And I am sure you have seen it, you just pretend you haven't.

Me, anti-Benin? Lol. Don't make me laugh.

I am a truth teller, and I will tell anyone who cares to listen that Benin was one of the more remarkable societies of precolonial Nigeria. That is a fact no one can hide. My arguments with you people here have been on some unfounded claims that you people have made and continue to make about Benin and its relations with her neighbours.

I have also challenged Igbo, Yorubas and even Hausas on this forum about certain claims they have made about their people. Some Igbos till today on this forum still consider me an "Igbo hater" becauae I challenged their wrongful assertions on Igbo history. Apparently, the typical Nigerian reaction to criticism is to brand you a hater or an anti-X or an X-phobic person. All of you tire me. **rolls eyes**

Jameseddi1:
You said Benin empire didn’t extend more than Midwestern region. Then you also that they was once a Benin dynasty in Igala. so which one I’m I going to believe as we all know Igala is not in the midwestern region of Nigeria

The current British dynasty came from Germany. Doesn't mean Britain is under a German 'empire'.

Spain is ruled by the Bourbon dynasty which originally came from France. Doesn't mean Spain is/was under a French empire. A ruling line can come from elsewhere without necessarily being a tributary of the place they came from. Hope you can understand this.

Jameseddi1:
We came to the fact that Benin empire was the only empire that ruled Nigeria south. On my research lately I found out that Igala first king dynasty was established by prince of Benin empire.

So do this mean Benin empire also have control to Nigeria middle bt. Can we say Benin empire stress from southern Nigeria to Nigeria middle bt.

Anyway is it fact that Oba of Benin sim was the first ata of Igala?

The Benin Empire barely extended beyond parts of the old Midwestern region. It is only in the imagination of some paper empire makers that Benin ruled southern Nigeria.

Also, the first Ata of Igala was not from Benin, but there are traditions that there was once a Bini dynasty in Igala, which displaced an aboriginal Igala dynasty and was in turn later replaced by another dynasty from Jukun.

AreaFada2:
Oh, see who wants to impress me with French language. I laugh.

It's like you know that your post deserves to be ignored. But I thought that having a chuckle is quite nice.

Well, you may want to first ask Asari Dokubo (I'm not a fan of the guy) why he said that Igbo were Ijaw's slaves.

Is your argument actually that Igboid people were not part of Benin Empire, that Igboid people were not sold wholesale during slave trade or that OLaudah Equiano lied?

PS: I actually thought you were smarter and better-educated than the likes of Gregyboy and Samuk, but this response illustrates very clearly that all of you are connected to the same mother brain, because what is this off-point nonsense?

Provide the quote from Landolphe, and you went off and started ranting about Asari Dokubo and Ijaw having Igbo slaves, and Olaudah Equiano. What is the connection with the request made? Is Asari Landolphe? Are Ijaws the people of Benin and Ughoton?

Like I already said, it would have been better for you if you had just ignored and saved some face.

AreaFada2:
Oh, see who wants to impress me with French language. I laugh.

It's like you know that your post deserves to be ignored. But I thought that having a chuckle is quite nice.

Well, you may want to first ask Asari Dokubo (I'm not a fan of the guy) why he said that Igbo were Ijaw's slaves.

Is your argument actually that Igboid people were not part of Benin Empire, that Igboid people were not sold wholesale during slave trade or that OLaudah Equiano lied?

This your comment is very deflective, but it is very much in character with you.

My request is very simple: Can we please see where Landolphe wrote what you've been saying he wrote. This shouldn't be hard, considering that Landolphe's book is available online.

But of course you and I know he didn't write that. We both know you pulled that claim straight out of your ass, otherwise you would have provided it, instead of this rambling response you gave me. It would have been better if you had ignored. At least that way, you save a little face.

AreaFada2:
In his diary, during his journey between Benin City and Gwatto (Ughoton) port, of the 100 or so slaves displayed along the roadside for sale, the slaves and the traders were majorly Igboid and Yoruboid subjects.

You have been saying this on NL for a while now, but each time you are asked to present the evidence you go cold. Please, give us a direct quote from Landolphe's diary where he said Igbo slaves were displayed on the road between Benin and Ughoton. Don't ignore this request, please [even though you'll most likely ignore]. Post Landolphe's statement to this effect.

PS: I should inform you that I have access to Landolphe's "Memoires" in the original language (French), so if you bring a fake quote, I will find out.