Yes! and 600 more hairs will grow on my butt this month!

WRONG TITLE.

SHOULD HAVE READ, ''GEJ APPROVES FREEBIES FOR HIS OGAS, FAMILY AND FRIENDS''

Congrats SLS
Some people will die of headaches tonight with this news.

Abeg how is the death toll from bad belle right now?

Any volunteers to help repair his brain to start with?
Must have suffered serious white matter injuries as a baby.

RIP to the lion from the east.
Wish there were more Nigerians like you, perhaps the course of Nigeria's history could have been altered.

Thanks a lot for those posts OYB.
The facts in it will be conveniently ignored by the pro GEJ goons.
What they forget is that it is the same SR that gave us the truth about Yaradua's illness and rescued GEJ from being Turai's boy-boy.

oyb:

viva next and SR

celebrated by professionals, loathed by political thugs, bootlickers and sycophants

nuff said

Spot on! If it weren't for SR, we'll probably still be hearing that yaradua is working out on a threadmill while Jonathan will be serving Turai coffee every morning.

By the way how do you 'rush' someone all the way from Lagos to Ife?
Surely they must have stabilised him first at LASUTH no?

Kobojunkie:

@OP, when you and those around you start valuing human life. . . . hope that helps? Your Nigerian Government is a mirror of the Nigeria people. So whatever the people allow, will be allowed by the Government. Not until you, and the majority decide you are tired of the old ways will things change.

Good one! Nigerians generally do not value life until something like this happens.
Its not the govt's fault someone hangs from the Molue door, that the okada man hates helmets, that people will rather consume all kinds of concoctions rather than see a doctor, that people will blame health workers when they go on strike for a better sector.
People only realise things like this after a painful loss and it ends up being very transient.
The society we all dream of will only come to life when people first change themselves and their reasoning, then speak and act our againt the current lot in power.
Till that happens?i'm sorry you'd have to live with the current rotten life-debasing system.

The man always has his hat on, just never his 'thinking hat'.
If you leave the border unmanned, it doesnt mean people will troop in to invest. Make the environment right and people will queue to invest in your country.
Regardless of how easy it is to get into somalia, i doubt investors will be running there to spend money.
Now look at the BRIC countries, they dont need to open their borders, people will always want to do business with them as long as the environment is good.
Once again,rushed thinking(if any).
Of course a55 lickers will never disappoint, GEJs words are doctrine.

Good, Boko Haram don't need to brave the desert heat anymore, they can fly directly into Abuja and get their visas on arrival.
Great one retardeen.

*Yawn*
This folks will kill their moms to support any government in power.
If Boko Haram becomes president tomorrow, they will start warning other Nigerians, ''no Boko Haram , no Nigeria!''

eGuerrilla:

My bosses?
Don't make me laugh!

Since you are so confident of approach currently being taken, I wish you all the best.

Trust Nigerians to get all emotional about issues without bare facts.
If they have a case let them get a lawyer and seek redress.As far as i know,the UK actually has a relatively straightforward justice system
Internet sensationalism won't move the authorities.
I wish them the very best and may justice prevail.

doja1:

I know a little about how the Family court operates in the UK so I am swallowing everything with a pinch of salt because all the proceedings are held in secret and there are usually gag orders on both parties to prevent them from discussing the issues in public. Only the parents and Haringey council really know what is going on, every other story is hearsay.
But if they were actually living in a one bed flat with five kids then I think that the living condition might have been unacceptable.

They are held in secret to protect both the alleged victim and the alleged perpetrators. If an allegation comes up against you, will you want it to be in the press before a conlusion is reached?

Infact to be honest she cannot feign any ignorance of the plan for the baby.
Right from pregnancy, any newborn that will be going into care(such as those from Drug abusers, women with alcohol or psychiatric problems, those with previous child protection/safeguarding issues with the state)is boldly designated as such and both the midwives and the paediatricians are usually aware of such children.
I really don't buy her story of ''surprise'' at people bursting in and taking her child, child protection plans are in usually in place months before birth.

eGuerrilla:

Madam, I know about institutional racism too; I have maintained more than just a passing interest in this particular form of discrimination.

Although I have called matters precisely as I see it on this thread, you would note that I have also enjoined the couple in question to seek help from more appropriate agencies.
The band of supporters who have been putting documents up all over the web are, in my opinion, white liberals with a good heart and a sense of misplaced loyalty.
A more cynical observer might even go as far to argue the Chiwars are simply being used as a battering ram, to advance unrelated causes.

I understand how emotive this issue is, for the family involved and compatriots alike, but also feel a sense of duty to inform, by pointing out what can easily be construed as poor parenting.
Like @reindeer, I also have first-hand experience of how the system works - from the vantage point of a professional. Over the years, I have counselled a not insignificant number of Nigerian families at breaking point, and therefore recognise certain unmistakable signs
Every case gets reported on the news?

Please refer to this reportSource: http://www.education.gov.uk/rsgateway/DB/SFR/s001026/sfr21-2011.pdf

Thanks for clarifying this issue to the casual reader. It is quite easy to get all emotional about things like these. This isnt a race things as some will like you to believe here. kids get taken off the family all the time and (though i've never worked in East Anglia at all)all races are involved. The authorities are very touch about child protection, they will rather err on the part of caution. The sheer numbers of LAC children should make you realise the enormity of the problem.
Only high profile cases get reported on the news and mostly those ones in which the victim died. This often leads to people crucifying the authorities for doing nothing.

Something tells me the council may be right in this case.
Child protection is one of the most sensitive issues handled by the social serivices especially following the baby P and Victoria Climbie cases.
I have sat in many hospital directed strategy sessions( as a Paediatrician) and i tell you, there are so many stages of intervention before a decision is taken to remove a child from a family.
Adoption and fostering isnt as easy as people claim on this forum, it may take you up to 5 years before you can get to place that child in another family and in fact that is a current headache for all concerned, why do you think we have the ''Looked-After children'' group ni the UK?
Whatever the case is, i hope they can reach the best outcome for the innocent child, for the child is usually the only victim in all of these cases,

GEJ and his circus.
This must be the funniest government the country has ever had. Unfortunately for him, boys are not smiling.
But to be candid, this guy should be in a circus, ''retardeen and his muppets''  

It is like open season on Nigerians
Back home policemen kill people for equivalent of what? 30cents?
Sad.

Following some people's logic here, the gateman, the cleaner and even the mopol at the gate will have to write the exam.

easy come:

hello mr jersey boy, what you hven saying abt islam is wrong and it shows that you dont even know your religion, since your religion did not condemn it, bt @ fist wt is Christianity wt god says abt Christianity, can you tel me the pilers of Christianity please? so please don't Abious any religion in our forum this forum is nt made for somebody like you so YOU SHOULD STOP IT IMMEDIATELY.

Or? are you issuing threeats?really you're just confirming what the world sees about islam and violence being synonymous.

So does Nigeria have ''airlines'' now or just ''airplanes''?

aribisala0:

i am not making assumptions.
i am a doctor and have been for a long time. there are nurse consultants with their own case loads as there are consultant psychologists,speech therapists, physiotherapists and all that. at any rate those are technical issues nothing to do with management which is a different discipline requiring a different set of skills.
community services still are part of the NHS and must be managed.No? that means planned,budgeted for,admistered and given logistic support which entails contracts etc that is what the role of a CMD (chief executive is) very little to do with medicine and more to do with operations management,financial management,strategy,HR etc
if you know anything about the uk as you are pretending to tell us how many chief executives of NHS trusts are doctors or health professionals. the number of health professionals in this role is small and of those MOST have a background in nursing. please spare us details like cystic fibrosis and all of that. it is not relevant to who should be a CMD(chief executive)

I refuse to resort to crass attitude like saying people pretend to be what they're not.
You mentioned community care and i only gave you an example, you can take or discard it, that's your take.
All community cared for folks still have clinic appointments no?
I am yet to meet a nurse consultant in the UK, there are many nurse specialists who essentially have support roles for the targeted care of specific illnesses.
The Overall responsibility for the patient lies with a consultant(they are registered to a consultant, either they are cared for in the community or not)
Until Nigeria develops a robust system with good community support like in these developed climes, it will be foolhardy to want to appoint chief executives like in the NHS.
Coming to the NHS i hope you realise they are divided into trusts and the hospitals are just an arm of the whole healthcare set up in the trust. They all have a MEDICAL DIRECTOR responsible for the medical aspect of the hospital work, then a chief executive for the whole trust.You wouldn't know that anyway. Tell me what else hospitals in Nigeria do apart from the medical part?Are they involved in buying healthcare for the citizens?
The chief medical directors are doctors who still have patients and still see them, they remain connected to the sharp end and can make better decisions. You will be surprised to know that many medical directors in the NHS still see their patients regularly and they still do their admin job well.

aribisala0:

maybe in nigeria

but that is not true everywhere any more
there are dozens of chronic conditions for which the only interventions are supportive  and rarely involve doctors.
that model of medicine is so 1970s. modern medicine is  different these days

there are so many other therapists in a modern hospital who do stuff doctors are not trained to do.

You're making assumptions here. Most of those chronic cases have been seen by the hospital doctors and referred for community care, this frees up the doctor to take up more complex cases. An example is cystic fibrosis in the UK, the care is mostly in the community and so for many other cases, but these people have peoriodic hospital reviews(3, 6monthly or yearly) where they may see the doctor or the specialist nurse who is trained by the doctors in the hospital to handle just that particular ailment.
People need to stop feeling inferior and be proud of their professions. wanting ''our own'' to be in 'power' won't help anything. It is the same mentality we apply in politics wanting the president to be from our zone and what has that acheieved for anyone in any zone for that matter?
The whole thing boils down to people not knowing the limits of their knowledge and an unneccesary ego trip. You don't see such wrangling in the UK because the salaries are fixed based on experience, years of study and level of responsibility.

This thread should be on the front page but the truth of it will be too embarassing for the powers that be.

citizenisb:

You guys are idiots. When Babangida, Obasanjo, Yar adua and the rest where pillaging Nigeria why did you not talk. It is common knowledge that IBB parked 12 BILLION DOLLARS of oil windfall into his personal account.

Obasanjo in his great visionary mind has liberated the true owners of the wealth of the country(the South-South) to enjoy their wealth. Do you guys prefer instead for them to secede and you go back to eating grass and cassava. Be Honest guys, in Texas if oil is found in your yard you own it and pay a fraction as royalties to the FED.

We have cheated these guys for too long so you guys have no audacity to abuse anyone. What do you produce in your state? This whole economy runs on crude oil FULL STOP. The same Nigeria had a derivation of 50% for the regions before crude oil came and we shifted the goal posts.

Please be quiet all you very lazy nigerians( as if you guys don't know that living on an extractive industry is a curse known as Dutch disease). Give them their oil let the rest of the country finally develop some sense.

, Was this post by a human being with brain matter?
again! I hope there aren't many with this kind of twisted and self-defeating logic in the country.
What a shame!

This is awful.
So sad.
How can the the leaders go to bed at night and sleep soundly hearing and seeing things like this happen?
This is the result of having a weakling as a president, having someone without decisiveness, someone who rewards violence with undue recognition.
what a loss, may her soul rest in perfect peace, her family must be in unbelievable grief right now, may God punish those who did this and those who continue to hold Nigerians hostage because of their selfish interest. The country needs a president, not a docile lamb like GEJ, i am so angry.

efisher:

As long as it is "Medical Director", the doctor should be the one to call the shots.

Spot on!
Medical schools are open and people can always apply if they want to have the role of doctors.
Nigerians just want shortcuts to everything.

The whole essence of a hospital is the doctor-patient relationship.
Poeple walk into a hospital to see doctors and get their problems addressed.
Other health workers are in support roles to help the doctor achieve his desired result for the patient.
The problem is peoople lose sight of this fact in Nigeria and that's what leads to unneccessary rivalry.
People should be proud to be what they are and stop trying to compete with doctors, its an inferiority complex.

''Under option 2, Doctors will have a high level of certainty of entry through Tier 2 General[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]. The relatively low salary of nurses will afford them a lower priority under Tier 2 General; however, nursing will be a graduate only occupation in England by 2013 when it will be a requirement of registration as a nurse that the worker holds a degree. In addition, some nurses are currently classified as shortage occupations – these include specialist nurses working in operating theatres, operating department practitioners, and specialist nurses working in neonatal intensive care units. Those occupations on the shortage list will be given priority under the limit. We estimate that no nurses or doctors will be prevented from coming to the UK compared to the counterfactual case; all nursing assistants and auxiliaries would be prevented from entering as these are not classified as graduate level jobs.''


Emphasis on the boldened part.I took the excerpt above from the UK border agency immigration impact assesment report. This is despite all the tightening of immigration laws in the UK.
Doctors are still in demand, it is obvious that as long as the situation remains unsatisfactory for doctors back home and the demand exists in a better structured society, the massive migration will continue.


http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/ia/migration-perm-limit-pbs/ia-pbs-t1-t2.pdf?view=Binary

Unfortunately i dont see any change happening soon.
The main reason doctors leave is the finalcial rewards for the work you do.
Most doctors aren't trying to be billionaires, they just want to be comfortable. Like someone said, if you have special rates for rent, school fees and such for doctors and their families, many will gladly stay, but to live in a country where people have big expectations of you and then scream the ''it's all about people's health'' statement when you make demands?e go hard.
Doctors don't make a hell lot of money in training in the UK, but they make more than enough to be comfortable.(not counting the bountiful pay from extra hour locums)
now leaving money aside, the emotional aspect of being a doctor is just too hard to cope with in Nigeria. I know how many times i went home depressed while i was in Nigeria simply because i saw children die from basic things like malaria and diarrhoea, i saw parents cry because they couldn't afford to buy intravenous cannula worth 50naira. Many times my colleagues and i gave out money to parents to buy drugs for their wards, i saw parents miss clinic apppointments because they didnt have transport fare, i saw children come in with complicated conditions simply because of poverty. . .the list is endless folks.
It is very demanding on the psyche working as a doctor in Nigeria and i give a lot credit to those still doing it. The tendency is to steel yourself and become hard-hearted or non-challant, or you could just simply go crazy.
This not taking to account the unneccessary bickering with other health workers who didn't put in your years of training(and don't have the same level of responsibility) demanding to earn what you earn because of inferiority complex, they go the extra mile to make life difficult for you at work, this is unthinkable here in the UK's well structured system. . only God can rescue Nigeria.
When all is said and done, brains are like women, they will gravitate towards where they are appreciated. As long as people keep expecting doctors to work for charity while paying the same bills as everyone else, the mass emigration of doctors will continue.
As difficult as it is for UK immigration these days, i still see many doctors coming in employed straight from Nigeria, the Saudi government still holds fairs recruiting nija doctors yearly, its a simple case of demand and supply. As long as demand outstrips supply of doctors worldwide, the highest bidder will continue to enjoy the most supply.

Lizylaw:

daz a big lie frnd. If they cheatd,aw precipitate doz dat pasd were nt up to 25%. I also did d exam n dr was no rum 4 cheating. I tink u faild daz y u'r bitter.

Hmm . . .don't fully understand what you're saying here.