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Playa Hater !

Na big Name dey kill small dog.

If u take cow eye take dey look life na only grass u dey see.

Cow no fit thin be like goat.

Na today nyash dey back ?

Man when dey drink garri get plans.

Half bread is better than full chinchin.

I get am before no be property.

Monkey no fine but e mama like am .

Dudu_Negro: Sam,

The sleeping dog message is more appropriate for your Eze.

As many times and as frequently that Yorubas have said we stand alone and with nobody, it is amazing to know that Eze is still nursing the wish and ideal of a new Yoruba/Igbo sovereignty.

It is indeed impossible to push a camel through the eye of a needle. It is almost equally as hard for SE to wrap SE under its wing of domination as it once did, but I should not put it past you to try. So my response to Eze was a message that should you succeed in achieving such a unachievable feat, then you have earned Yoruba respect and we will be glad to form a union with you and be countrymen with you in a common-front Southern sovereignty.

West has endured many unnecessary provocations from East and fortunately by act of providence they all backfired and became liabilities in your own backyard. It is naive for us to hope on providence always coming to our aid, we must anticipate and reject all moves and calls for closeness. In carving out Midwest from West the reason Igbos gave was that Edo elders wanted their ties to West severed. Well Edo state and Delta state are the products of Midwestern state of old. Today, Edo is fine and dandy by itself and were Nigeria to divide tomorrow I am sure they would be happy to remain independent and under no one. For Delta, it is a different story. Itsekiri people, whose land extend from border with Ondo to Warri, never in their history deny their Yoruba blood and ethnicity and so they are with us and we are with them and in the division of Nigeria we will bring them with us just as you hope to take Anioma with you.

I vehemently disagree that a joint Southern coalition is needed to defeat the North. Yoruba see North differently than Igbo see North.

That's one areas Igbos don't get. Yorubas are joined at the azz with the North via Islam.
50% Yorubas are muslims this is one reason there can and has never been any rallying call to go counter to the north.
A call to oppose the North will split the Yoruba down the centre, hence the reluctance of Yorubas to face this issue.
Hence the Yorubas who are generally more progressive than their northern counterparts find it more convenient to pick a fight with Igbos that with hausa/fulanis.

Igbos knowing this as well dont trust Yoruba, because its hard to gauge their stance on this issue.

But Igbo's will easily feel at home with most SS ethnic groups which has showed by their massive support of GEJ.
It doesn't necessarily translate to aligning with them politically or otherwise.

The truth is that Igbos are ready to live with everyone else asides those Islamic fanatical, poverty stricken, uneducated, babaric, unambitious and lazy northern folks which in all ramification is in contrast to everything aspect of Igbo culture.

That was what the civil war was all about and the sooner the south faces this reality only the can we all start to achieve our potentials as a people.

Anyway he's not as good as Soludo or Okonjo, I wonder why we are giving this guy audience.

shymmex: maybe, if your country lived to its potentials - the honourable Prof. won't have something negative to say about it, no?

You're right but here in the UK, Nigerians are flying compared to other Africans, its amazing.
Its like we are of a different race to other Africans, in all professional fields.

Its easy to tell a Nigerian from other Black People, they are sharp, bold, daring and intelligent.
I wonder what this dude is talking about.

Nigerians are a mistery to Ghanians, they always wonder why we are so successful and rich.
I think envy might be the driving force behind this guys comments like most Ghanians.

To know I even took this dude seriously.

28octo :
Following the series of challenges from the north and d fact that our govt does not have the solution, I hereby move a motion for the privatization of all northern state.
This in my opinion will shift the burden from Nigeria. This country is no longer bound in freedom but in corruption. I careless if this country turns Syria.

I don't know what you mean by privatising but "cordoning or quarantining" is more like the word.
Isolating the rest of progressive Nigeria from those retrogressives would be most ideal.

Sometimes I wonder who is mad or sane in Nigeria.
Is it the alledged madman or the numerous motorists ?

So your point is that Igbo public servants ought to immitate Sanusi rather than the other way round.
So Igbos ought to be more like hausas and depend on handouts from the government.

Have you ever stopped to wonder how Nigeria would've been if everyone had the same attitude as Igbos.
Man be careful of what you ask for. God dey watch u o !

Sam_Ikenna: Why in humanity's sake would you single Igbos out in this whole conspiracy conjecture. Of all the "christian" names that conspiracy theorists have proped up along side real Boko Haram members, how many of them are Igbo names? Did Igbo names out-number Berom, Jukun, Igala, Idoma, Yoruba, Ijaw, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri etc ?

This is starting to look like 1966 again. So GEJ used Igbos but didnt use Ijaw, his own group? What I see is - people trying to bait Igbos into this mess and then abandon them when its showtime. Igbos are not the only christians in Nigeria, in fact about 50% of SW, 60% of MB, and 99% of SS are all christians, so why on earth should we, Igbos, take Boko Haram personal?

Please if this a joke - stop it 'cause it aint funny. You want to find Boko Haram, go to North East and North West. When Osiskankwu was terrorizing Abia state we looked for him in Abia and got him, we didnt look for him in Kano. If you want to find MEND or Asari you go to SS, if you want OPC or Gani you check out SW. In a weird Nigerian/core north fashion, they'll tell you to look for Boko Haram everywhere but in NE and NW. We have no business with Boko haram, so I suggest you guys look for your towel in your bathroom - where you took your bath.

Please ladies and gentlemen, if an elusive group like boko haram was to exist in a western nation, there would be concerted efforts to analyse all the theories sourounding them.
I only made an attempt to list all the conspiracy theories without trying to confirm any of them.
If you have reasons for or against any, feel free to comment.
But whether you like it or not these allegations have been made by people recently.

kingoflag: Somehow, you forgot to include that Henry Okah has told us point blank that GEJ is responsible for some of the bombings.

Anyways, I just said to refresh ya memory.

But I mentioned GEJs government, but thanks for your contribution.

EzeUche: Igbos being made a scapegoat? I have seen this before. . .

Thank God the rest of the world is wiser and knows the threat of these radical Islamist.

Please dont turn this to an Igbo issue, a lot of Notherners believe that Igbos are trying to turn them against each other.

Beaf: The article is not by the Niger Delta Congress, but by Austin Orette.
It is almost criminal to misattribute literary works and opinions. Considering the OP's bigoted pedigry, the the word, criminal is not one that is too weighty to be levied.

Nice try, framing this very personal opinion as that of the whole Niger Delta, forgetting that Igbos are a big and inseperable part of Niger Delta.
Try and speak to many Ijaws, urhobos like Asari Dokubo etc and see if they share the same opinion as this writer.

Well, I dont see why not, It worked in Osun state

There's is something a bit mysterious about Islamic sect Boko Haram

Many leaders is the North (eg Buhari, el-rufai) think that Boko Haram was funded by GEJs government to destabilise and incite disunity in the north by recruiting mainly Igbo [/b]foot-soldiers/suicide bombers.
These [b]Igbo terrorist go about blowing up churches and then claiming responsibility as BH.

General Azazi thinks it is being masterminded by PDP.

Others like (Sanusi and Mu'azu Babangida Aliyu) think that it is because of too much money in Niger Delta.

Some say it is the CIA who have an agenda to see Nigeria disintegrated by 2015.

All these theories went up up in smoke a few days ago when a dying would be terrorist claimed in HAUSA [/b]language that he was doing the work of [b]GOD (Allah).

The begging question is who is the real Boko Haram , Is it Igbo Christians, CIA, Government or Hausa/Fulani Islamic terrorists in the name of God(Allah), PDP or CPC

He deserves a nobel prize for his Sanusinomics

Less Oil Money = Education is Evil (Boko Haram)

Who knew it was gods work!
I thought it was either GEJs government, Igbos or CIA
I also thought it was unequal distribution of oil money
hmm what a surprise!

onatisi: i dont want them to come but these politicians are giving them a very tangible excuse to come back.believe me if they do come back which i know it will be soon.it will be a ppular one.did u take notice of the poll on this thread over 70% of respondents wants them to come not me i am only following the ppls feelings.

That 70% are Northerners, let them keep dreaming. They still think they dominate the military, If the military takes over it will most likely be lead by a southerner or a middle belter at best.

F**k Muhammed !

hardywaltz: Though as it is today, the political elites of the region are in unprecedented disarray, all hope is not lost as the region still has many pluses that it can turn to its advantage. However, the million dollar question is how realistic and pragmatic is the present North to turn around its present predicament into fresh fortune.

—Abdulaziz, a writer and development worker, is based in Kano

http://www.leadership.ng/nga/columns/27590/2012/06/18/north_rise_and_fall_superpower.html

A coded description for Boko Haram. Well lets see if its gonna work this time.

onatisi: i have a feeling Jonathan knows about all this attacks and that was why he left on Sunday so that he wont be pressurized , because lets face it if it was his own ss people that were being killed would he have traveled

Abeg no blame Jonathan jooo ! What do you want him to do?
Send soldiers to shoot at sight ? so that he can be blamed?

Ask yourself what has nothern leaders done.
Whan has Ibb, Sultan, Buhari, El-rufai, Sambo, ATiku, Sanusi and co said or done while their home regions burn.

Abeg leave GEJ , this is not his problem

This whole kidnapping issue seems to have picked up steam in delta state

I don't think there's any military man or woman stupid enough to lead a coup in Nigeria.
Certainly not IHEJIRIKA (Remembering what befell his brother Ironsi, who was in an identical situation and opted to do the most sensible thing)
Unless there is mutiny within the military ranks, which will cause ripples in the military with the military fracturing into tribal allegiances. (Remember 1966)
If that happens, and GEJ is removed from power, 4get oil money from Niger Delta.
They will have to preside over a penniless broke country.

Just reminds me of what an old former Biafran soldier always said to me.
The civil war never ended, it was only suspended.
Some people still needed time to understand their realities.

This time around, there will be no scapegoats (Igbos)
People who preferred to bury their heads in the sand will have to stand up.(Niger Delta Minorities)
Those who sold out for a plate of porridge (Yorubas)
And those who formed alliances without taking a good look at their allies (Middlebelt)

Without trying to sound like a doomsday preacher, We can only hope that the 1966 conflict is put to rest this time.

Guess what !
He's not the only one laughing.
Right now there are millions of Nigeria laughing whenever BH strikes in the north.

Anaskie: T.A Orji, na u we know!!! Nobody is going to to snatch dis title 4rm u. Ur d worst Governor to ever walk the face of Planet Earth

Sorry my friend but T.A Orji is sooo last year, Peter Obi is the man of the moment !
He is the one most befitting for the award.

rhymz: Mr Globe
If you must argue please do so from an objective standpoint regardless of your political inclination.
Most of the Igbos that support El Rufai's falsehood are political opponents of Peter Obi that are ready to do anything to rubbish his government no matter what he has or has not done.
Even Fashola gets thesame treatments from Yorubas in the PDP. They peddle all manner of falsehood and exaggerate his mistakes. We all saw how his detractors exploited the Sacked Doctors issues and stuff like that.
I care less about defending Obi's administration but I will not agree or condemn wholeheartedly the developments in Anambra state or allow myself to be indirectly used as an agent of divisive politics through spreading of falsehood or outright distortion of facts.
I have been to Kano and Kaduna( the pride states of the north) and now I am in Sokoto, none of these northern state can boast of being better than Anambra state in any ramification even with their past and present heavy FG patronage, FACT!!!
Like I have said before, El Rufai's intent goes beyond innocently critiquing the Government of Peter Obi, it was a direct and deliberate attack on the people of Anambra and in a way, a subtle attack on the entire southeast people, trying to paint a grotesque image of the subregion using Anambra as a launchpad all in preparation for 2015.
There is no sincerity of purpose in his intent, it is all politics and divisive machination to cause confusion. If you understand Obi's position and influence in APGA as an Igbo political party and as an Igbo leader, you will understand why he had to pick on Obi.
Obi might not have done well in all rammifications but I dare say, his performance in Anambra towers higher above the performances of Kano and kaduna state governors. If El rufai wants to genuinely write on mispriorities, the north is a perfect case study. The government system here does not support the people here in anyway, it is all politics and no substance. They have no programs here to educate their people about backward cultures and traditions that put them in the vicious cycle of poverty. A 15yr old girl in the North has no formal education and is already one of the many wives of a poverty stricken man with no sustainable means of survival. The people of the north care little about education, most of the professional establishments here are manned by Yorubas, Igbos and niger-deltans. He should pressure the governments here to be sincere and help their people. Hausa breed childrien here en mass without any plans for them and yet Mr El Rufia wants to pontificate about misprioities to a state that has way more wealth and development than people from his state. Talk of lip service and insincerity of purpose at its highest order.

I think people should distinguish between an attack on Peter Obis performance and an attack on Anambra.
The former is very accurate while the later is a bit off the mark.
Anambra has got a lot of problems and honestly so as every other state in Nigeria but I dont think anambra will lag most other states.

Kobojunkie: It is all a result of inferiority complex and nothing more. And yes, a whole ethnic group can suffer from this. White Americans are equally castigated by the world . . .have been more than any group out there, especially for their treatment of African Americans, and other minority groups, and their involvement in Slavery.

Inferiority complex !!! To whom
Everyone else in Nigeria
Don't make me laugh ?
Pride and complex are kinda contradictory words, don't u think ?

I'll go for defensive and siege mentality.

Kobojunkie: It shouldn't be that way. How majority of Ibo subjects are dealt with, mostly by the internet tribalists has nothing to do with the reality of life for Ibos in Nigeria. So I think we should not confuse the extremes here on the internet(nairaland to be precise) with that which exists in the real world.

The message contained in the article was compiled by a fellow Ibo man. As you can see, some are close to labeling him an efulefu because he chose to criticize Obi's administration. The mentality among Ibos, which you previously spoke off has seriously damaged Ibo land for decades, and not until the people move away from this, will the land begin to flourish, as it should.

My point is that the attitude of igbos in the face of criticisms is as a result of a peculiar and seemingly organised culture of misguided prejudices when it comes to igbos which might have led to a sense of siege like mentality amongst igbos.
We see this attitude in the African American community in the US.

Even though I dont support Obis response to the issue,
1. How can El-rufais say that a state with 3 urban centers is rural.
2. A state which has been in the news for opening factories such as SabMiller, Innosson, Emzor Pharm and Orient Refineries be the least friendly state to attract investment.
3. A state which consistently come 3rd in Jamb Application and admissions be educationally backward.
4. A state with the 4th concentration of banks in Nigeria be lacking in economic activity.
5. A state which has accomplshed arguably the longest stretch of road construction than any state in Nigeria.

El-rufai is right though as the above have got nothing to do with Peter Obi, and Obi has been guilty of misplaced priorities and laughable projects but the points he highlighted are grossly inaccurate and in most cases in stark contrast to reality.

I shoulda thought they where already earning more than 13%

Kobojunkie: Beginning ke? The East has recorded so many decades of this misplaced pride. Obi is simply riding the same horse that many of those before him have ridden.

It is hard to access the true situation on anything Igbo.
I must add that in my own experience, igbo issues have occupied to extremes of any critical dialogue.
With Igbos it is a case of Pride vs Prejudice.

El-Rufa’i’s Impressive Misrepresentations

13 Jun 2012

Mallam Nasir el-Rufa’i’s analysis of Anambra State’s 2012 budget lacked the objectivity and attention to available evidence needed for believable conclusions. He certainly got some data on physical and human geography and capped it with random and recondite statistics. This is all right where the targeting audience is foreign, especially if el-Rufa’i wants to later assemble the episodes in a book; as one suspects that he will eventually do. It will then be the seminal work of a good governance minded African – in principle at least.


El-Rufa’i’s claims about poverty in Anambra State is the exact opposite of the truth. This is evident in the Poverty Profile Report of the National Bureau of Statistics, published in the Punch Newspaper of February 14, 2012. Corroboration can be found in the congruence of government efforts and the self reliance driving the state’s economy. Dr. Magnus Kpakol, as head of the national poverty eradication programme, said as much on December 31, 2010. This was during the flag-off of the payment of the Poverty Reduction Accelerator Investment and second phase of the Care of the People (COPE) programme, when he urged other state governors to emulate Anambra.


El-Rufa’i used faulty data which had been officially brought to the attention of the Minister of National Planning, Minister of Finance, the Vice-President and the National Economic Council. Is it not curious that the source of El-Rufa’i’s statistics shows Anambra to be poorer than Yobe, Taraba and Sokoto States?


At the governor’s meeting of May 22, 2012, with the Manufacturers Association of Nigeria (MAN), Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi Chapters, the Chairman, Dr. Chile Obidigbo, confirmed that the state had performed beyond their expectations in its promise to encourage and empower indigenous manufactures. Mr. Peter Obi is the only governor who meets regularly with them.

Anambra has special funds in the Bank of Industry (BoI) for manufacturers. Obi laid the foundation stone for the construction of Innoson Motor Manufacturing Company, built the road leading to the factory and invited President Goodluck Jonathan to inaugurate it. Cutic cable in Nnewi has a related story and there is close interface with firms like Chikason, Orange Drugs and other manufacturing companies in the state says a lot more than can be gleaned from El-Rufa’i’s analysis.


The second largest brewer in the world with the market capitalisation of close to 50 billion pounds and which is twice bigger than MTN, BA Miller, will commence production in Anambra; with the state investing N2 billion. Anambra State has more bank branches than the entire South-east put together and the numbers doubled under Obi’s tenure. Whereas Anambra State had about three really good hotels in 2006, today there are over 30 of them.


The Ambassadors of the USA, Russia, EU, China, Denmark, Canada and South Africa, among others, have visited the state; each concluding some investment conversation before leaving. Development partners have quadrupled their interventions in the state. Anambra is a reprioritisation economically impactful road networks and targeting roads that will enable farmers get their goods to the market; and link communities needing economies of scale by leveraging their areas of strength. Local governments like Anambra East, Anambra West, Ogbaru and Ayamelum got roads for the first time under Obi. On record today, there are over 600 kms of physically measurable major (and interconnecting) roads, built within the last six years.


El-Rufa’i set out to educate people about the Anambra State Youth Reorientation and Empowerment Programme (ANSYREP), but without first informing himself. The funding of the remaining beneficiaries will be concluded next month. More new and thriving fish farms and poultry houses will merge to empty their yield into the market at considerable profit. New trained floor tilers, electricians, painters, hairdressers and barbers, as well as roofing and ceiling P.O.P service providers, tailors, confectioners, etc are the deliverable from the programme. Many beneficiaries of the programme are now employers of labour and others used the ANSYREP leverage to better prepare themselves for the WIN programme of the Federal Government; and some of whom got up to N20 million from the Federal Government for their respective businesses.


A more diligent writer would have gone beyond the generalisations supplied by paid researchers to note that there has been no bank robbery in Anambra State for the better half of a year now. The state chose to equip the police, which has so far got over 300 vehicles, communication gadgets and offered other forms of logistical support. The data on crime rate exists for reference. Only last month the community-police parole initiative was announced to be facilitated with security vehicles for each of the 177 communities in the state. Every community gets regular security funds of N500,000.


Anambra is among the very few states actually paying the new national minimum wage and was the first to pay it in the South-east. But the state did not accept demands for pay hike based on workers’ comparative assessment of what their ‘professional colleagues’ were earning in other states with higher revenue base. The government showed its receipts and asked how their demands would be accommodated. The strikes were eventually called off, without the pay rise. But attention was focused on ‘the fact’ of a strike and not on its underpinnings and final resolution.


A state that hosts the most non-indigenes in the South-east, in which the Northern community now has a traditional ruler tells a story: The logic of settlement is that people flock to places of higher economic value. The 1000 housing units making up the second phase of Ngozika Estate have all been completely bought; with the state government under pressure to build 10,000 more. This is poverty, per excellence!
Its youth empowerment programmes always have values reorientation components. As for the state doing nothing about then crude oil deposit in the state Orient Petroleum was formed in 2001 and only got energised under Obi; for which the chairman of the company, Chief Emeka Anyaoku, made his appreciation public. In addition to constructing the road leading to the facility for over N! billion, the state government has invested N4 billion in the project.


In education, Anambra State had a celebrated school handover to their former church owners last year, along with money for equipment and rehabilitation. There is N6 billion in the bank, for the four years’ salaries of the teachers.

This is in addition to a public apology for the rude takeover of the schools without compensation 40 year ago and an open admission that government’s takeover of schools is responsible for the collapse of morals and standards. Anambra has consistently remained among the first three states with the highest number of JAMB applicants and the performance of Anambra students in national and international academic competitions give the lie to el-Rufai’s analysis.


It is true that the health sector got N1.4 billion in the 2012 budget, but that is because there are multiples of that amount being expended in the health sector by development partners. Before the current government, no health institution in the state was accredited, but two modern hospitals are now accredited.

The following have also been accredited: College of Heath Technology, Obosi; College of Nursing and Midwifery, Nkpor; and School of Nursing, Iyienu, among others. Hospitals have been built and rehabilitated, hospital equipment have been procured, various health programmes are implemented.


The state is funding 10 hostels in various missionary-owned hospitals this year, while a new maternity complex at Waterside is under construction. Borromeo hospital at Iyienu and Adazi got over N500 million attracted by government from development partners.


This scenario is also applicable in the water sector, where Anambra is working on many water projects with support from development partners, like the EU, UNICEF and MDGs. This year alone, the MDGs will deliver eight major town water schemes and UNICEF will provide water to 30 communities in Ogbaru, etc.


Agricultural sector is private-sector focused and the state recently secured N1 billion loan for farmers. Close to N1 billion is committed to the FADAMA project and Anambra’s FADAMA III is regarded as the best in the country by the World Bank. But el-Rufai does not know any of these. He also does not know that the state is working on over 27 erosion sites. In the usual delusional language of a presumed economic crusader, he advised the government of Obi to cut down on the size and cost of government, not knowing that the cut down on all costs is already 40.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/el-rufa-i-s-impressive-misrepresentations/117885/

bestview: Bunkum. The only Nigerian state that can be compared to Anambra is Lagos and Rivers state. Go figure. Elrufai should be more bothered with the army of almajiris, lepers, beggars parading the caves and stone age northern Nigeria. There is no single northern state that is worthy to be compared to Anambra state.

This baseless pride of not being able to accept critisism is what Obi has been exploiting for time now.
You could see in his response to el-rufais comments as an Igbo attack.
This mentallity especially of Igbos is beginning to damage us big time.

Alas, it took the comments of El-Rufai to trigger off this critical analysis and I am sure there are many more to come.

El-Rufais comments are commendable and most welcome !

Peter Obi is right on this one thing though.
El-Rufais crtisism is a slap on the face of Ndigbo and Anambrans most especially.

The fact that citizens of the state have turned a blind while while their governor got away with being the WORST in Nigeria
says a lot.
Hes not even getting half the flak of Orji and Uduaghan even though he has a worse record.

You should all be grateful to El-Rufai for speaking on you behalf!
SHAME ON ANAMBRA !