Actually the country name is NIGERIA for you, not 9ja, we dont call Malaysia Mlsha now do we??

@Aieromon, I dont know if you noticed, but there were some 8 -10 HOT men on the PB. Hot bodies, hot accents, raw energy, inteligence to the T (scofield and mahone), the works.
The only reason anyone liked Sarah was because of she and Scofields love story. Otherwise, who cares about the women on the show?? lol

@Poster. Do what your heart tells you, even if at the end you get hurt. There are some experiences we must live through, otherwise, we will keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
Thats life. We experience it. The good and the bad.
Sometimes, a 'relationship' isnt over till its over. So you might leave him and then go back cos youre scared youre missing out. It means in your heart, youre not done, and until youre done, you'l keep going back.
Gather your courage and leave if you have the strength, but if you dont have the strength, then see the thing to its end. As bad as it might be.
I might be wrong, but he would most likely end up hurting you badly (its written on the wall).
And believe me, it isnt until that happens that you'l realise just how strong you are, and how much better off you are without him confusing you and taking you for granted.
After you have cried, get up, dust yourself and carry on. He wont be the last man you meet.
Just makesure youre more attentive to such signs next time.

It happens. You think maybe the deeper we go, the better thigns will get, and they just dont. And then because youre so used to waiting, you wait anyway. And you tell yourself to be patient . And then you wait somemore. And then youre done waiting, but you ask yourself: what if he's ready now and I leave?
Its not easy. You have to take the full dose and then you know you'l never go down that road again. This is her's I guess lol

Missy B:

I'm not arguing wiff You . . .I'm just touching Your points where necessary.

lol, oh ok. Sorry I just wandered, cos it wasnt very clear.

FL Gators:

3 years? Dude got bored.
A guy that's too "busy" to care for his woman, too "busy" to talk to her or communicate, too "busy" to ever be caring does not want your ass nomore.
Quit and stop emotionally depending on him. grrrrr, women love wasting time

My sentiments exactly. No too much talk. The guy is done!

@Missy B, Im quite sure Im not the poster
I have told her to leave him before he leaves her.
What exactly is your argument?? Cos Im not sure anymore 
Cos one time you say he doesnt have to be cheating on her cos I was cheated on, and then in another breath you ask why its so hard for her to bounce if he's always been like this whats up

Missy B:

That You were being played doesn't mean she is.
T's not like he changed over night or after having intimate relations wiff her . . . .
She said:

Yep , she said he's been that way since they met. She's probably been waiting for him to change and he hasnt. Cos he wont.
MissyB, a woman always knows. We just have a way of ignoring the writing on the wall.
If she's so insecure after 3 yrs, theres definitely something wrong. My being played wont change this. A woman always knows. Its just convinient to ignore the signs. And all these ARE signs

Missy B:

You must have a very good knowledge of the dude in Q.

Nope I dont. This is just experience talking here. A man who loves a woman wont make her doubt his feelings for her. He'l makesure she always knows how he feels, even if he doesnt say anything.

Tatian:

I have been dating him for close to three yrs. He's jst the same way since have met him, he's never romantic, never caring, always giving excuses but, always sincere when he does so. Have always thought of quitting but, can't just bring myself to do so. Am going crazy. pls nairalanders, i need candid and honest advice.

Leave him before he leaves you. He's bidding his time until the girl he wants to marry returns from whereever she is, or until his parents find him a wife. He's just not that into you. RUN

Dclique:

Everyones just going for scofield because he played a 'smart guy' role.
This brother might be as dumb as sh!t in real life.

Dont hate now lol. , which one you no come de. Scofield was the hottest thing TV produced in a long time and so please allow us ladies salivate ok.

Sine1:

i pray that as u walk down the street u will be shot. if u survive u will be shot again.

Ah. I see. One on the loose. I now understand. Like Sky blue said, I should have recognised already, youre one of them.
Our words are messengers we send forth. So your words will come back to give you their result

Sine1:

may yaradua kill your mother. Amen lol

What does that have to do with anything?? Why the cursing now? Were'nt we just discussing. Having a decent heated discussion?? Where is that coming from? And you were irked at first cos someone was being sacarstic`??

Sine1:

Valid point? which valid point did you raise? except that you will never live your life unless yaradua steps out of office.

You still havnt said anything to validate where you stand. NOTHING.
All you have said is that people who are poor are poor because they dont treat eachother well and so its their fault they dont have electricity and water and this has nothing (in your opinion) to do with yaraduas person as president. He's just there as a figure head
You have said each nigerian should lead himself and stop complaing cos the leader cant do anythign for us. Thats not what he's there for. He's there to be a figure head.
You have said people treat you badly and as a result deserve a bad government or non at all. Its all their fault and has nothing to do with you or yaradua.
You have safely manuevered your way into talking a lot, but saying nothing and arguing with those who had valid worries to raise.
Now thats what I call a waste of time

kokoA:

Inferiority complex drove him there to avoid giving a speech a the UN general assembly

I totally agree with you. Meanwhile he sent his wife to atend the IAEA general conference a week ago in vienna. I dont get the man's actions.

Sky Blue:

I just keep asking what he has done because I do not get how someone will write exam and submit his answer sheet with nothing on it then get a pass mark of "average". I just don't get this marking style at all.

LOOLLLL nice one. lol . He should have gotten ODOH

@Sine again, the moderators on NL are not responsible for nepa or water in nigeria. Or healthcare, or any of the basic things a government should give its people. Moderators on NL are not the President of nigeria and their actions do NOTHING to affect the decisions taken by our government
I resign, youre one of them people caught up in petty irrelevant rubbish to face facts.
Like Sky blue said, you just seem to constantly go off tangent. Non of what youve said can be produced as a point. Youve gone on and on over private petty issues.
Not good enough my friend. Petty doesnt fly here. This is too serious a topic. Stop trying to save face. Two people CAN agree on any point. So dont use that excuse to run out after avoiding the issue of the thread in the first place

OAM4J:

Nobody says Yar adua is the cause of someone yelling at the bank, but we are saying he is failing to lead us as a president should. For God’s sake how can my president prioritize attending opening of a new university in Saudi to UN General meeting and Universities here in Nigeria are closed. He has been president for more than two years; tell me how has he improved the life of an ordinary Nigerian since he became president? That’s why we say he should resign if he has nothing to offer us as our leader. Mind you he offered himself to lead.

@Sine1. Obasanjo was president for 8yrs and ASUU strikes reduced drastically. Somehow people got through school and finished. If you say Yaradua is building on what obasanjo left behind, what is he doing about it My sister has being waiting to do exams for 5months now (this was a thing of the past). ASUU is on strike and Yaradua is opening a university in SAUDI ARABIA. His mates are in New York, I repeat.
Theres NO logical explanation to his actions.

I dont think Im better than him Sine1. And I DONT want to be leader of nigeria. I DONT want to be given the opportunity cos Im not and never will be a politician. THATS the point. If he wasnt ready to lead, he shouldnt have let himself be rigged in as leader. He cant act like he's the average market man and if its too much for him (as it obviously is), he should leave.
Im a floor member who has a good idea of what people go through and Im a floor member who expects more.
And its not the people who complain that are the problem, its people who keep quiet and condone. That is nigerias problem.
You have a neat way of avoiding the issues and unpleasant questions.
Average isnt good enough my dear. We should aim for the sky and settle for the tree tops, not upside-down!

thameamead:

Gaddafi is nothing but a hypocrite . he tore the UN chapter and they went on to say African's should be commensated for slavery. this bastard locks up thousands of african's (including children) in dentention centres in Libya without medical care or proper sanitation facillities or legal advise. they are all want to return home but he's refused to deported them. what planet is he on. if not for the massive oil fields in his country italy and the uk would not give a damn about him. shame on Gaddafi for treating his own peole like dirt,

And its strange how the CIA hasnt killed him, cos he's just the kind of leader they should have gotten off the human population a long time ago. A pain the the a##

Sine1:

Sky Blue
No no I am not here to condemn any bodys ratings or objectivity! i did not say or insinuate that others are not objective not here anyway! but what do you want? A floating castle in the sky? Maybe a robotic maid or manservant? Its strange when you want progress sharp sharp but are only ready to blame every other person.
I Ask HOW CAN THE PRESIDENT GOVERNORS COUNCILLORS ETC BE THE CAUSE OF EVERY PROBLEM YOU hAVE?? Is it not weird when you wake up in the morning and you blame Obasanjo for not putting a full English breakfast on your table?? How can we pass this blame on so happily?

And nwo this conversation is soo over, cos I see youre hell bent on ignoring the POINT of this thread. Sky blue didnt say anythign about an english breakfast. Dont go off point. We're talking NIGERIA. Dont go off point.
And mind you, the government IS to 80% responsible for ALL our problems. The rest is our fault. We however need a leader.

In fact your points are so petty, its almost unbelieveable.
They spoke to you rudely at the bank?? So?? Are you the first or last.
There are threads where people complain about such. The issue on debate here are nigeria's problems.
Have you see the suffering mothers go through to raise their children to makesure they have an education (or a semblance of one)
Have you seen what the young girls on campuses turn thenselves into at night because their parents haves worked their arses off 'doing their part', honest hard working people and still couldnt rake up enough funds for their daughters education??
Have you heard of the 15yr odld boys who are now into internet scam becasue theyre tired of watching their parents suffer and get NOTHING for workign so hard, so they choos the easy path (even though wrong) so they can feed their folks
The security man at the bank treated you bad and so nigerians deserve bad leaders
Thats soo petty, and soo wrong on soo many levels, I cant even believe you any more!

Sine1:

But do you really take care of our duties on the street? In our homes? at work?
I went to a bank back in Nigeria people were so angry.including the employees. People trying to jump the queue. . . Tellers snatching things from me. even when I wanted to park the guards where hollering and screaming like I was driving a trailer. Just do your own. Yar'Adua doesnt need to tell you to say Good morning and thank you. Courtesy.
mind you im not even a supporter of the man. Whether he entered or it was Atiku or even Tony Blair or Chairman Mao we would still be in a postion of complaint. Its sad when for 49 years generations of people still depend on the government to put them through school and give them jobs. They want to earn 150000 every month for getting a 2.2. No amount of begging can let people see that they are the solution to their own problems.

Im sorry to say, but this your point sounds rather petty. We are talking ISSUES here. People dont have food to eat in abundance and youre complaining about how you were treated at a bank; people have to walk kilometers to fetch water that isnt even clean and youre complaining people jump queues.
My friend, people jump queues everwhere. Nigerias problem is, our own is always over the top.
Im not saying we dont need to treat eachother better, Im the first to say that, but my treating you well at the bank wont give proper education to the people in rural arreas. It wont bring nepa.
Please, whilst the point of treating eachother better is valid, it doesnt apply here. Eachman should do his own bah? Is that not the one the people who work hard on the street are doing? or are they doing someone elses own? Are you saing we should all just do and keep our leaders quiet
I treat my neighbours well, we have fun, my driver, I pay him well and I makesure he has enough to pay his childrens fee's. This is what I consider doing my own. But when I get home at night, there s no electricity. WHO'S own is that Sine1 The tap doesnt run water, who's own is that

We might be the solution to our problems, but the nigerian on the streets cannot make nepa regular. Neither can he make water run. That a porous argument and it holds absolutely no substance. You are contraicting yourself cos it seems youre the one lookign for a people who are the messiah.

Those people shouting at you at the bank, they are impolite as many nigerians are. And I blame this kind of behaviour on frustration. Nigerians are a highly frustrated people and the government is 75% to blame for this. I know how to behave myself and I try my best. But it just so happens that some people cant hadle their frustrations well.

Those shouting in the town halls at obama and the senators who were trying to explain the health care option obama is trying to put in place in the US? What will you say about their behaviour. My friend every nation has badly behaved people. Nigeria has more, but that adds NOTHING to the fact that we have a useless government.
Put any man in the shoes of a nigerian man, no matter how refined he seems to be and in a short time, you'l see the battle he will go through to still act like a human being. The frustration and poverty is simply too much. The government is there to erradicate it.

Dont tell me that by treating my neighbour well, Yaradua will now know he has to provide our basic needs. I will treat my neighbour well because its the right thing to do. It will however have no effect on electricity or water. It wont, so dont tell me that.

And you were asked, what has yaradua done in the two years he's been in office? Answer that. Dont go hiding behind old ancient cliches that have helped no nation so far.

I still disagree with you. Cos the issue here is Yaradua and his role as leader. We cant all chase eachother and ask what the individual does about the rubbish he throws out his window. This is somethign I can take care of myself, but the tarring of the road and the fixing of nepa are yaradua's duties. Im not the leader, I cant fix those things. I cant make water run. There is a man who owns office to run such. I will do my own in my corner, but yaradua should do his. And as leader, his happens to be a whole lot. If he doesnt feel up to it, here with the next, until we get a leader who actually leads. Im not too sure youre on topic here.
Our treating eachother right or wrong will not bring nepa. Afterall there are pedophiles and serial killers in america and europe. Do they treat eachother well? Are you telling me the majority of westerners treat eachother well and thats why their systems work?
Please. The one is completely different from the other. I will take care of my duties as an individual in her corner. Yaradua has a NATION to take care of. Thats the point of this thread

These simple traffic laws are broken in the most developed countries. The have to be enforced. No people on earth are soo good that they dont need authority bodies that actually control and makesure laws are obeyed. The secret is getting the people to do it. It takes dedication. Dedication a leader can only have if he is interested in his country.
A people as complex as nigerians need someone who is interested in the country. We have never had a good leader. And you can only complain or compare us with other countries cos they have gone through their own stages of development.
I no longer think nigerians want a messiah ( i used to think so). People who work as hard as nigerians just want to know their leader is interested. I think they want someone who has a little time to go over the problems the average man has. Electricity and water. On a national level. Let people feel human. Then will come other things, other concerns.
But we need a leader. And I think pretty much everyone is crying for this now. No God-send. Just a man or woman who is interested in the country.

There was a time no one in lagos used a seat belt. But LASTMA or whatever you call them had a law, and if you were found wanting, you paid heavy fines. This was institued by the leader. These are the small things a leader does. The people ordinarily on their own wont have obeyed the law, so it is enforced. On the streets of lagos, you cannot drive on the BTR lanes, if caught, you pay a fine. This is how it works. Laws are made and then ENFORCED and the people will follow. Things like this should be encouraged.
A leader should help his people move forward. In the developed countries of Europe there are all manner of laws and officers to enforce them and so the people obey.
Have you noticed however that when europeans leave europe, come to say nigeria, within a short time they become like nigerians? have you noticed? Because they observe that no laws are being enforced.
What will you tell me about them now? They are normal people like us, and nothing makes them better. They only have a better system because they have leaders who enforce laws. Their leaders do the work the people put them in office for.

Sine1:


@Sky Blue
My problem is not with Yar'Adua to be honest. I really believe that he is a representative of the people. Our development does not depend on the 'Nigerian leader' as some of us may put it but on 'Nigerian People'. . . because the Leader is SIMPLY a representative of the people.

And thats where I think youre wrong. A leader OWES his people to lead them. A leader HAS TO know better, otherwise we could all individually be president. One person has to take the lead and he might come from among the people, but he has the responsibility to take decisions the average man cannot. The leader owes his people just as much as the people owe him-by being followers.
Our development does depend on the leader, cos he will make rules that the people should follow. It is his vision that will lead the people. Otherwise WHAT is he leader for?
So lets drop this attitude of believing the leader will always act like the people. He should not. He should be an example.
I think we've so gotten used to a society without role models, people dont know what it is to have leaders who stand out. We should all not be the same. Some people will lead and some will follow, and our demand is that those who lead are distinct. Demanding that they be same as the everyday man, or accepting this, is the mentality that helps our leaders fail.
There was a time america was called the wild west cos everyone shot everyone for the slightest of reasons. Lincoln was president at that time,and he had vision and is one of the greatest leaders of all times. Not many americans at that time thought like him, but he layed foundation stones america built on.
Please lets stop with this excuse of the leader being liek the people. The average man on the street should have a reason why the president is leader and not him , the acara seller. There must be a difference

Calling Obasanjo a farmer is not a personal insult. He IS a farmer. He was one before he became president and he went back to his farm at the end of his terms. Bush was constantly called a cowboy, and this wasnt a personal insult. He is a cowboy. Theres no following the crowd here.
The question remains, critically asked: WHAT IS YARADUA ALWAYS DOING IN ARABIA?
For goodness sake. The UN general assembly in exchange for a school opening in saudi where he, a president was recieved by a governor?? where was the king who invited him?
His mates were at table in New York discussing world issues, they may still not have found resolutions to, but he shouddl have been present.

Sine1:

Hi Sky Blue there's really no need to address others with such sarcastic remarks. . . this is one of my first posts and I was rather insulted.
Thanks  
Now I had just posed a question asking what we would cite as reasons for his resignation. . .Would it be things he hadn't done or things he had done wrong?

lol. You better not be offended oh, cos more is coming your way. Let me tell you for your information ehn, I joined this Nairaland a month ago and its like a market place. Youre going to have to take a lot of abusing, and so just get ready for it. You'D have to ignore snide remarks and insults, cos there will be many and you cant answer all. So just state your case and keep to it. lol

Sine1:

But if he had attended the UN Meeting responses would still be negative. . . as they were when he attended the G8 summit, if you recall. Is Yar'Adua truly to blame for the Nation's troubles? and would his resignation solve these woes?

He should still have attended. I dont know if youve noticed, but Obama doesnt get a pass mark for anythign he does. And he's trying his best. Clinton, as loved as he was, was insulted on a daily basis for not doing enough. Merkel in germany is abused constantly. Sorkozy same. The countries with the best systems have their people on their necks, constantly critisizing them, cos they have to keep them on their toes. Why should we nigeria who hasnt even achieved a lot suddenly be content with a yaradua??
One of the things you sign up for as a leader, is that people only appreciate you in retrospect. IF you do your home work. Thats the way we human beings are. Yaradua is not the cause of our problems, but if he's not going to alleviate some of them, he should kindly give way to someone else. Nigerias problems wont be solved in 10 or 15 yrs. We have a whole lot of work to do. But we have to start NOW, And having a president on sabatical will not help. He is a liability.

Yes, we are like that. But thats his job. To work and be hailed and abused. It comes with politics. People will always be dissatisfied. It has its advantages and disadvantages. Obasanjo went for all and we abused him, not that he had gone, but he went and disgraced us in his usual farmer way. But its good. Thats a democracy. People should complain until they get a semblance of what they should have and not settle for just anything. Nigeria has a long way to go and if we as her people dont constantly complain, we wont move. We need results and then with experience we know when to stop complaining. But we must speak