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Juliusmalema:
Ipob is a useless organisation.

You know I don't think so...

Wickedfact:

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gidgiddy:
I also listened to it too and I think its more of a miscommunication between Uche Mefor and Nnamdi Kanu. I hope both of them resolve their differences soonest. People will fall out from time to time, thats what makes us human. What is important above all else is that we Igbos get our own separate country out of this unworkable disaster called Nigeria.

Stuff like this do happen. Regrettable as it's, I hope the rank and file will not be demoralized! I also think that those in the leadership position should learn to compromise and bind together to guarantee a common front. Lots of people are dying as a result of federal Nigerias scotched earth policy against our people! Balkanization of the major agitating group at this critical juncture will prove counterproductive! Folks should learn to stomach thier pride. And this Buhari is dead rhetorics should be reduced. It's not gaining much traction with the public. That said, it should be freedom at all costs for all oppressed people..

Moferere:
2015 - 2020
Buhari has spent $1.6 billion on Turnaround Maintenance (repairs) of refineries and nothing is produced, I mean zero barrel of oil per day.

The Niger Republic refineries he signed MoU with last week was built at $980 million.


When we criticise Buhari, his praise singers will attack us.

They know next to nothing.

This is overwhelmingly alarming

Nigeriabiafra80:
Let me me give you a benefit
Happy Michael
Updated Slain Victims Of Obigbo Army Massacre: Their identities are: (1) Pastor Igwe (slain husband of Mrs. Amara Igwe), (2) Queen Nwazuo (slain fiancée of Mr. Monday Bakor), (3) Okoro Peter and (4) Mr. Chinwendu (the two were shot at close range and killed instantly by soldiers including busting the brain box and fluids of Late Chnwendu on 24thOct 2020 few meters away from Gov Wike’s convoy during his visit to Obigbo), (5) Jude Egejuru (died from gunshot injuries), (6) Clifford Okeke, (7) Cornelius Anya, (cool Udeme Ossy Monday, (9) Edochie Steven, (10) Ebere, (11) Wisdom, (12) Chizy (missing and presumed dead), (13) Michael Nkama (believe to have died from gunshot injuries) and (14) Chinonso Joshua (died from gunshot injuries), (15) Godwin Samuel Umahi, (17) Sunday Umahi, (18) Queen Eze, (19) Darlington, (20) Chinonso Udoh (missing and presumed dead), (21) Kufre Sandy (missing and presumed dead), (22) Justice (shot dead in front of his residence), (23) Martins (missing and presumed dead), (24) Ebite Orjinta (Ihite-Uboma, Imo State), (25) Sunday Aneke (missing and presumed dead), (26) a young nursing mother (died from gunshot injuries) and (27) her newborn baby of one month, 3 weeks and two days (yet to locate her relatives), (28) a yet-to-be identified dead citizen, (29) second yet-to-be-identified citizen and (30) third yet-to-be-identified dead citizen. The three slain bodies were shot and left to decompose along an Obigbo Street in a verified video footage.

Updated Injured Victims Of Obigbo Army Massacre: Among the deadly injured are: (1) Chukwuma Chinonso, (2) Nwoke Okwudiri Nwonye, (3) Uche Ogbonna, (4) Chikaodi Agwu, (5) Michael Okwudiri, (6) John Emeka, (7) Agwu Enyi, (cool Obichukwu Chibuike, (9) Izuchukwu Igwe, (10) Eluu Chukwuemeka, (11) Arinze Joshua, (12) Nwakama Izuegbe, (13) Destiny Okorie, (14) Israel Asoh, (15) Emeka Heart, (16) Victor Heart, (17) Orji Amaoji, (18) Paschal, (19) O

These are names of people who were seen, there were many reports of people who were taken to the bush and murdered and their bodies taken away.. He's now declaring curfew left and right to justify using the same method to waste young lives at Obigbo.

kalu61:
lgbos don't discriminate when it comes to investment.

How much does this attitude help igbos? He is from Orlu and even as governor, he didn't build any school acquisition center there. The one he tried to start , he couldn't finish it. The one already in place before he was sworn in, he didn't refurbish it. Ok, he built his own personal university but it hasn't been finished since almost 8 years now! I don't understand this man , Orji Kalu and Emeka Offor. Their desperation to be seen as better Nigerians make them do crazy things.. The projects they site elsewhere, their communities don't have them..

It's doable and is a product of great ambition! Biuld enough universities and set up funds to help graduates start off in life. Many kids that asre qualified to enter the university in the east don't do so because of the competitive nature of entry exams. This is a man that has singlehandedly built structures in Anambra. Visionary

Orji Kalu travelling from place to place without masks... Covid dey oo

Ijaya123:
How do you manufacture raw materials?

Lol,
Sorry
I meant car parts, instruments stuff like that or even any essential chemicals needed.

Gilbertase:
and irredeemably stupid.

Very very..

grandlexuz:
Those are a very valid points you raised. However I think in a struggling economy and country like Nigeria where millions of people still go to bed hungry, people die from preventable and treatable illneses like malaria, cholera etc, the production of local cars is hardly its top priority.

With Nigeria's number one commodity in free fall, avenues to raise cash becomes a priority. If you ask me if bringing down custom duties is directly proportional to more funds for the cash starved government then it is a win win situation for both the citizens and the government.

Mind you even China with all its technological might and wealth still depends on the importation of cars. In 2019 only two local brands featured in top ten sales. Volkswagen leads the sales with importation of cars making 63% of car sales in China

It's ok. Though most of the foreign cars sold in China are assembled locally.. As per more money for the government? Lol. Add another thrillion naira in their revenue, it will disappear through estacodes, inflated contracts and jumbo allowances for political office holders. They will still complain of lack of funds to run the government. I do understand your perspective tho..

grandlexuz:
I think you are over hyping the locally made car industry in Nigeria. A slash in custom duties will stop the influx of smuggled second hand cars across porous borders by promoting direct importation from which the government can earn custom duties albeit now on the low end.

The car manufacturing industry is capital intensive with the need for a viable market. What percentage of the Nigerian population can afford a brand new car priced in the thousands of dollars when the minimum wage is lower than the price of a tyre.

As much as I accept the should be incentives in place to promote local car productions it takes much more than the custom duty placed on second handed cars to woo buyers for Innoson and other local brands. Even at 85 % custom rate most Nigerians will rather import a used Mercedes to buying a brand new Innoson; even if expenses incured on the Mecedes were higher.

I totally agree with you. But in terms of biulding a country, biulding her economy, her technological know-how, her industries, especially now that a sizeable number of companies are already mastering this technology, it's obvious that this policy is not positively sustainable. Where do we go from here? How do we ensure that folks drive quality cars while enhancing local abilities in the automobile industry? Have a bank that can calibrate a people friendly product which can be accessed by say, tax paying citizens? More massive investments in this area to reduce quantity of imported raw materials thereby making the final products fabricated locally to be cheaper? Dedicated funds by the government to subsidize such purchases, depending on the ability of the beneficiaries to pay up in installments? Or do we just go on with imports since they're readily available and relatively cheaper?

BUSHHUNTER:
Nsukka, Enugu State...The only state I can marry their girls in SE.

All quality of wife material dey thre body

Ohafia, Abia State still dey manageable

Na Imo girls useless pass! onye ponpo onye macha! ndi akuna nkita! owerri orlu mbaise


tueh!

You sure say u get money to marry from Ala Imo? If them tell you how many crates of beers to bring nau..,U go begin vex, begin ask whether na brewery you want start..?

pacespot:
They say those vehicles whose tarrifs will be slashed are for haulage, how is that damaging to the country? Those buying fancy cars can still continue to patronise innoson and the likes. Nothing can be more damaging than the current economic situation we are in. And mind you, Nigerians are not Europeans that tarrifs will affect their business so much, they will also find a way to circumvent it.

It's not just for haulage, both cars..

pacespot:
How many people employed by car making plants in Nigeria today compared to a lot of businesses that cheaper cars will help in the country?

This policy will be popular with the people because everyone wants to buy new cars, but in the long run, it will prove damaging to the economy..

yusufu16:
Innoson should have started with keke or bicycle.

I give up! Bye bye thread!

TruthinAction:
Na car we go chop? Bag of rice rose from 9,000 naira to about 35,000 naira in the five years of this government. One sachet of tomatoe paste is now 150 naira from 50 naira in Port Harcourt. Open the borders and let food come in. It will bring down the price of every food items and the low income earners can cope.

How can a presumably important country prioritize the importance of used cars over staple edibles like rice tomatoes and onions!? Is there anything I'm missing?

pacespot:
Abeg let them bring and dump the tokunbo cars on us in Nigeria, it will help many businesses that are struggling with high costs of transportation. This will drive business and commercial activities in the country. A car owner will always find a way to survive no matter how harsh the economic situation in the country is.

Ok ooo
More cars on bad roads with high costs of fuel and of course lost revenue and jobs from car assembly plants... Let's see how it goes..

grandlexuz:
To begin with I doubt any Nairalander owns an Innoson car. Even at peak production can Innoson meet the transportation demands of Nigeria.?

Is it not better for the government to focus it's energy on providing policies to make locally made cars cheaper through targeted investments in companies associated with the supply chain rather than throwing the damn borders open for all sorts of countries that have done so before to flood nigeria with second hand cars?

jesmond3945:
you are asking me? Am I the President of Nigeria?
Okay enjoy my brother. Pound is now 620 dollar 490 and whiteman comes and tell you that the economy is growing and you believe him. Tell buhari to nationalize our oil industry and watch boris johnson chase him out. Boris would invite buhari to come and sign deal but will travel to Malaysia to sign deal. Hahahah

Don't mind that guy..

BigBashiru:
Low iq man looking for who to blame for your problems is a sign of both laziness and mental illness....

People like you are the main problem with Nigeria. You don't even know your problems, don't even know the source. Dont care because of your placid political orientation! You are only interested in sharing the meager change from oil revenue because you are alarmingly lazy. If foreign countries continue to tweak your national politics to suit their desired goals, your unfortunate country will always struggle. If you really want to know how Nigerias politics is designed to fail by the British right from independence, there are lots of literature on that, including from British diplomats. Go, search for that, read and get educated! I don't have the time to baby feed a fatty irritant like you..

OneTemplate:
She is right and you are an ethnocentric Igbo bigot unable to see the big picture and only interested in what benefits Igbo individual rather than what is in the interest of millions of Nigerians in the biggest black nation on Earth.

Nigeria must take drastic steps to secure locally innovated and home-driven economic growth post covid socio-economic devastation because all other nations of the world will be too busy trying to spark their own economy to life to even be interested in helping us.

Put your bigotry aside for a second if you can. Innoson should respond and slash price to compete or get out of the way. Any truthful Nigerian businessman will tell you it is criminal for bulk head articulated lorries to continue charging in excess of 400k to transport goods from Lagos to even Minna simply because owners of these lorries paid huge duties to import them and accordingly need to recoup their capital outlay.

Crash the price and watch competition fashion a truly competitive transport and haulage sector that will help many businesses grow and thus aid the economic progress of Nigeria.

Haulage costs are high because of bad roads, high cost of pms and the unbelievable delays at the ports! Has little to do with the cost of importing bulk head which can be defraid with just 5 to 6 business trips from say Lagos to Onitsha! It cost over a million naira to transport a container from Lagos to the east! It was lower by more than half to do so about 6 years ago with the same duty quotation on bulk heads! So What changed? Naira depreciation, fuel hikes, rising cost of other services related to the haulage business and of course bad roads! Not that I'm praying for bad results but may God keep us alive, if there are no significant changes on these areas, I will be here to remind folks like you on how you turned Nigeria into a dumping ground for used vehicles while not really making any dent on costs of transportation!

This policy is mainly targeted at family cars like sedan and SUVs. How many bulk heads are imported on daily basis and if there is an urgent need to reduce the charges on bulk heads, can't that be done without a blanket policy that destroys local ability to manufacture other brands of vehicle? You rant and rail about those posting with tribal motives, yet you haven't been able to explain to us why you support total ban on the importation of rice while not supporting any sort of ban on cars! We are waiting..

BigBashiru:
So why can't Nigeria and Nigerians impose bad leaders in the UK as well to get their resources as well as their financial services sector? aren't all humans equal?

Also where is your evidence to PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT THAT Britain imposes leaders on Nigeria and that Britain imposes Buhari on Nigeria?

If you can't provide any evidence then....

Be waiting, you hear? Where should I come to prove that? At your Alkali Cort? Let me assemble erminent SANs to "PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" (you should have written that in red too for more emphasis) to you that Britain influences Nigerias elections! Justice Big Badhiru..

BigBashiru:
In business there's something called competitive advantage and comparative advantage.... Nigeria is not the only producer of crude oil. Boris Johnson has said by 2030 no 100% crude cars will be sold in UK. So you can see u r overvaluing your oil. They buy from other countries too....

Similarly Britain didn't want to be dependent on Africa for cocoa and they discovered it grows in Asia and started doing business there....

And is "our oil" really ours? Since the white man left has the oil money ever reached you? Let's think!

We are saying different things! You are talking about buying and selling, and I'm talking about wayward imperialism.. As per buying and selling of oil, We also sell to India and China. Those countries get their stakes in Nigerias oil industry by "competing" to win bids. Britain and co imposed Buhari and has been supporting all types of brutal leaders amenable to their interests here. Getting all sorts of kickbacks from the back door as a result. You may say, 'that's the game nations play', but as a citizen of the country at the receiving end who watches as his country goes through the endless pangs of poverty that follows with such intrusion, I have a right to object!

BigBashiru:
Wait so Luggard said Nigeria must now be called Nigeria and no body in the entire country opposed the new name? To be fair to Nigeria, Ojukwu opposed the Union which triggered a civil war but it was still Nigerians that fought against the break up of the Union that Luggard created. This makes any further blame of Luggard invalid. Let's think critically please.

I have never mentioned Lugard in any of the posts because I know like you rightly pointed out that Nigeria has had numerous opportunities to change course but refused.. I specifically talked about Britain as an imperial power. Essentially I was talking about the actions of Britain today, post independence, post Nigeria-Biafra war... Wasn't talking to about a man that died over a hundred years ago..

tsdarkside:
abegi park....!!

how many of you igbos actualy bought innoson cars....??

people dont want made in nigeria....their is nothing you can do about that fact....
you cant force me to buy cassava when i prefer basmati rice from india....

its my money....
what nigeria can still do is providin things that people prefer and not forcin them to what you have....

if nigerians prefer ferraris,then nigeria have to try to build something like ferraris or even better....

I don't like made in Nigeria rice. Lots of stones. So why am I being forced to eat that with the closure of the borders? How can you support the ban on imported rice, a staple food eaten by Nigerians daily but become happy with the liberalisation of car imports? What changed!? Import bans on rice makes an essential, very costly, while reduced charges on car imports, makes a not so essential product cheaper... The problem with you guys is that you all start off by projecting your rabid tribalism on others. The only good thing in this policy is that Abuja politicians will have more money to spend. Otherwise any critical mind will know that this policy automatically makes Nigeria the dumping ground of used cars in the world. You are going to buys cars. Many cars. But it's still tokumbos used elsewhere. Capital flight with streets and highway littered with broken down caterpillars and lorries. Why bother explaining to you guys? You will always see it from your normal tortured lenses..

omenka:
Na wa ooooo!!!

We complain everyday about how difficult it is doing business due to the burden of tax, duties and levies imposed by the government. Now they say they wanna slash levy and someone thinks IT IS TARGETED AT INNOSON.

Isn't this a normal economic incentive deployed by governments around the world to help boost commerce and stimulate the economy? Why do we always have to bring everything down to tribe and religion in this country?

How do you people's minds work exactly. Gosh!

We are talking about how policy summersaults destroy budding local industries and the need for governments to think this through before proclaiming such policies. In this regard, innoson is the biggest local automobile industry! Nobody has talked about tribe yet until you injected your noxious conjectures into the thread. For heavens sake, This is the same government that has closed the countrys land borders because they want local farmers to sell rice!

RealEzee:
well that's basically the trait of any woman who's in love with you not stereotyped to any country bud, there is this NLer babe here who before marriage was the one hyping about her boyfriend's job as an furniture maker , posting his jobs and gbam calls kept coming more jobs for her boo, baba kuku wife am n she's still does that till now sef, btw the guy good at his job too ,d guy no need a better marketer than his babe , if the guy cheat on her I no go surprise if she carry hammer burst em head

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Good stuff she's doing @Happinesd44.
But Chinese gals are productively romantic in a relationship. No hype!
Not trying to compare between Nigerian gals and chinese babes tho..

SavageMaster:
I heard Innoson is expanding to some African countries. I hope it works out for him so it will cushion the effect of this new government decision. Really troubling times.

Best bet will be to quicken the process of manufacturing most of his raw materials locally. That will be capital intensive tho. Maybe alligning with the Chinese suppliers to set up shops locally.. In better managed environments, government would have helped to prop-up factories to help the supply chain. But this government is more interested in tax and spend. It's very easy to revert to policies like this to jack up revenue in the short term, but domesticating sundry technologies related to the car manufacturing business will ultimately grow the economy/Nigerias industrial base in the long run. There is also the problem of costant change of policies. Most of the big brands trying to open up assembly plants in Nigeria may not go on with the plan. Obviously, tokumbo cars will be cheaper..

Yenefer:
Sai Baba. Buhari havr to rebuild Nigeria all over again after years of PDP destruction.
Innoson motors? Who cares. We don't

You are noisy..

That will bring more revenue to Nigerias government because it will kill the car importation business through cotonou. But at the same time, it may mark the end of our growing automobile industry. The likes of innoson should worry. Government has chosen more money over greater technology transfers here. Obviously, the government is really cash strapped. Benin republic rakes in billions from Nigerians through the many cars going towards Nigeria that are cleared at her ports every year. It may also improve the quality and models of cars driven in Nigeria. You will be surprised that in relative terms, folks in cotonou drive more recent models of cars than Nigerians. Nigerians have to drive older models because importers pay lesser duties on those, thereby standing a better chance of making more profits... Problem is that the accrued revenue will ultimately disappear into private hands or end up being used to biuld up Niger republic..