₦airaland Forum

Convert that N2B naira into dollars and log off - 5m dollars. That mean anually your railway is earning 10M USD or 1B kshs. SICK JOKE.

68816419:
You must be out of your senses, comparing a dead rail project with a system that is almost at it's brake even point, should be the craziest comparison on Earth.
NRC increases frequency of Lagos-Ibadan train service from 2 to 3 daily, while from 4 daily trip to 5 on Abuja-Kaduna route even without the commencement of cargo

You're twisting and turning tying yourself in a knot. South Africa nominal GDP is stuck and kenya will need 15yrs max to get her.

jl115:
I asked you specifically what was South Africa's GDP ppp in 2010 and you said it was 416 billion.........that has nothing to do with comparisons but your inability to either read properly or understand the difference between PPP and nominal

They are that crazy. They spend 1B dollars almost to build Abuja light rail that carries 400 passengers. The same for Ibandan-Lagos. Nigeria is a crazy place...totally bonkers.

Dont wonder where all the oil money went to - crazy stuff like those. AJeoukota steel mill rusted to ground after 8B dollar expenditure. Obasanjo spend 20B dollars to build power sector of 12,000MW - now they can barely get 2,000MW running.

What do we expect with primary school dropout as their head of state... Mono rail in calabar and grandioise projects now rusting to the ground

Nigerians are the purest of Bonobos

gallivant:
You Nigerians are ret@rds. Should we build double tracked highways for the wildlife?

We are comparing apples with apples. oranges with oranges.

jl115:
GDP PPP do you know what that is?

370B in 2010 and 416B in 2011. You're now back 10yrs. And expect the old same middle class rut. Do not be so delusional - you can do better than a west african by realizing what is holding your economy is not going to be easily resolved. Zuma been gone for 4yrs now. The economy of RSA will not grow in this decade...maybe next.

jl115:
what was our GDP ppp in 2010

Yet another Jewel in Westland - West Africa will reach here in next century if they work real hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKbv-X8aq0

Stop embarrasing yourself with iron roofed shacks

Just40:
Whatever happens in Accra also happens in Kumasi, Takoradi, Cape Coast, Ho and all other regional towns and cities.


Development must touch everyone's life



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAMsxESQ8E

The usual madness from resident mad man.

Just40:
look well again .... They all have more trees than most Kenyan neighborhoods ...

Or should I repeat the green city index for you again?

Anyway, you forgot to add untarred roads

Obaboon in his default mode. We are waiting for final quarter figures but chance are high it will exceed 110B - although Kshs is weaking against USD. I gave you IMF estimates of 109B.

obaaderemi:
After you post relevant source to back your GDP claim.

If you watch this Nigerian youtube and read the comments - it very clearly - West Africa has LOOOOOOOOOOOOOng way to go in almost all aspect of urban life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH85eq7dhcg

Is tarmac, concrete and lack of trees your definition of luxury -

Dont keep show us the same CRAP again and again.

Best estate yes should look like your village in urban area - because that most natural way to life the best quality of life - meaning lots of space (land size), lots of greenery, lots of trees, grass - and then features like golf courses, international schools, hotels with different cuisines, malls and all that.

Just40:
that is how villages look in West Africa

You're a 100 years from catching up with Ghana.
Learn that and know peace..

If you have this or this on repeat, you'll know why development everywhere matters... consistency


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U4p3eEcnI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdjoFzJRfY0

Describe the mess in 10 words.

obaaderemi:
Always a mess decorated with a few trees.

Kenya agricluture is on another level. We are already overtaken South Africa in avacado exports - and next we are targetting south american giants like mexico.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxvX2zATQzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ZDRabV8EI

obaaderemi:
Hater.
Overcooked like your GDP, you mean?

Where is the mess?. This how estate looks everywhere outside west africa - where best estates are at best concrete mansions.

You're 50yrs from reaching Kenya.

Watching this video on repeat mode for a week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps&t=17s

Just40:
sorry

Milimani is just another village below Akosombo

Anyway, why are your estates always a mess?

Your agri data is already overcooked - it cannot be cooked beyond there - just put the fork already - unless you want to overtake China and India. IMF say you will grow by 2 percent.

obaaderemi:
Rice production goes up in Nigeria ( I know the gluttony little Indians are salivating at this)

And oil prices hit $87+ (Remember how the little Indians always rejoice when oil prices drop)

Nigeria's economy should really grow this year on the back of agriculture, services and oil.

Milimani estate in kisumu beat anything in Ghana Nigeria the Zoo can learn a lot what it mean to stay in upper class neighberhood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fLplUcfWcY

Nakuru - newly elevated city - has 10 floor limit but it better than almost west africa cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3nqcdNqWFk

You can never compare kenya figures that fully cross referenced with many data sources with make-believe nonsense that Nigeria Yemi Kale produces.

kikuyu1:
Waffas,observe how stats are collated by the relevant authority mainly from airport traffic,hotel receipts,immigration entry and exit points etc,etc. There are people whose sole function is to collate and interrogate such stats unlike you guys where recently released Sakawa boys and Okadamen are labelled as tourists stumbling off the plane in Accra,Abuja and Lagos.

The beauty of having well diversified economy - domestic tourism save kenya tourism sector in 2021.

Kenya Tourism update 2020 v. 2021:

Passenger flight landings +44% to 59,486

Visitor arrivals +53% to 870,467

Inbound receipts +65% to Sh146.5 bn

However, Q1 2021 tourism earnings were just 43% of Q1 2020.

The bulk of hotel bed nights recovery was from DOMESTIC TOURISM.

What is retarded is that South Africa GDP was 410B in 2010 - and you're causing chaos online to be back to 410.
You're in middle class rut.
There is no where you're going in next decade.
Unless you have fixed issues that held you back last decade.

jl115:
you've made this same ret@rded statement over and over firstly SAs gdp nominal is $410 billion after its rebase.....

Also where is Kenya?

In GDP terms though, #DRCongo adds 23%, pushing EAC up from $238bn to $294bn.
Kenya is still top. It was 46% of the East African Community (2021 GDP estimate) and becomes 37% with #DRCongo joining. Kenya and Uganda together are half the economic size of the EAC after DRC joins.

obaaderemi:
Can you post any credible source that proves your GDP is up to $110bn? Thanks.

I see middle class estate. Few big houses but general estate is middle class. It's not upper class. But of course being a primitive west african that is too much for your brain.

Just40:
unfortunately that is just another primitive rants

Just like the rest on Nairobi, this place is just as bad...


This is what richness looks like and developed
The hills of beauty that has fast become another Hollywood like community.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIB3yeG2QXs

Ghana primitives - worldwide the rich live in places like these - green leafy neigherhberhood where you cannot even see the house - because the land holdings are large enough - it's not about paved roads or concrete.

Class is something you

This Muthaiga north street view. Half of Nairobi is like this - Karen, name them. All green leafy - but fly a drone and look at the houses in there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tr9yK3stWo

What impress you about that estate? paved roads? road marking? You west africans are bunch of primitives

Just40:
that is the modern that you'll never find in Nairobi

Something so special that when you guys get a taste of it, you throw jubilation party..

I dont see anything special. That is like half of Nairobi City.

Just40:
catch up to this level first


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U4p3eEcnI4

This is what developed wold standard looks like

Yes your future of Nairobi of 80s in 2050 will not come - because Nairobi is already at developed world standard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

Just40:
that future will never come

You should power your houses before you do street lighting.
Konza is not dead.
It's the Africa silicon valley of the near future.
It's not just any other city.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqewxXf8Us

68816419:
Konza is a failed project, nothing smart about it, all streets in Northern Nigeria are powered with Solar

In those 7yrs - Kenya GDP has grown from 60B to 110B.
RSA GDP is stuck at 350B.
In 2014 - Kenya GDP was 9 times less.
Now it three times less.
Now I know you have very bad education
But surely if you use simple projection - the next 15yrs - Kenya GDP could rise to 350B
And South Africa will remain stuck at 330B.

Two important concepts you need to grasp
1) Middle Income/class trap in South Africa.
2) Leapfrogging happening in Kenya. Kenya is nearly nailing all the key ingredients for take off. Economic growth is not linear..most of the time it assume hockey stick shape......then it plateaus..like South Africa and even crash.

There are pre-conditions that a country need to meet - before it get lift off ground. It's like flying a plane....you stay on the running away until you're overcome driff and you vroom! like Uganda finance minister once exclaimed

This what happened in South Asian tigers. This is how China has taken off. Veitnam is happening as we speak. Kenya could be next.

jl115:
I've been on Nairaland since 2014......thats 8 years.... I will bet my house that in 2030 you'll give me the exact same post but the time lines will just be different let's say 2040 and 2035 .....ive seen it all before mate

As I said, once Kenya has caught Joburg... Then will talk about gauteng, and then after that maybe South Africa but at that time I'll already be in my 80s

Are you sure this video that you intended to wow us with? All I saw is some random street?

68816419:
Just Give up
Here is Kaduna , be truthful to your self can you compare any Kenya city with Kaduna ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fbAa24x4NI

The wait wont be long. I gave you timelines for Kenya is 2035 or about. For Nairobi and Joburg - before 2030 - actually 5yrs from now - if we build 500K units in housing sector as proposed - and fix our housing deficit. Otherwise infrastructure deficit is closing very fast.

jl115:
yes... Because we all still waiting for Kenya to catch Joburg... Never mind Nairobi

Samrobo, as you engage in slum Indecency, Nairobi is moving ahead of Joburg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZwcSd_Gpx0

Yes KAIST is great move - hope more research institution will go to Konza - and then tech companies - that would create a silicon valley like synergy.

kikuyu1:
Was looking at KAIST: those are global players ! The Times higher education survey ranks them 99th globally as of 2022.
They're researching everything from robotics to AI to Health Sciences; the effects of which are seen everywhere from manufacturing, cloud computing to real time warehousing. It's said the uni established in 1971 was instrumental in taking SoKor first world.