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Affordable housing- Nairobi - 1,565 units - 1st block ready - and previous occupants of low rise gov building - will get free houses

Two years ago - they were 48 old buildings -owned by Nairobi City - that were demolished. The tenants were paid 6,000USD - and now get free houses.

Nairobi hope to build 70,000 units from such old Nairobi City councils


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHNOt5seo9E

https://cdn.standardmedia.co.ke/images/friday/zmzmrl9v9pezct61eabb41749a7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp3jeOcYCeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vBIgd03Vyo

Rich coming from a Ghanian. Your towns are horrible. Infact your two cities look worse than Nyeri

Just40:
Kenya really need to stop building nasty jungles

You wish. It's a big problem as we speak.

GeneralDae:
Old news.

How is the sot pollution in your city of port harcourt today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTwr8qoPjqg

samorobo:
Loly

But of course the show must continue.


Nyeri slumpolis. Nothing much to be said here,just watch and throw in some wicked pity. This show has been an eye opener.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCg4V_7ibpc

This week I went to look at Daykio estate in Kiambu county - Juja - near Thika. Started in 2014. There are many such upcoming estates in Nairobi metro that would put to shame many west african concrete jungles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uly-u1Vxc&t=157s

I watched. The end is the gate community that is nice. It's akin to Nairobi metro - mostly Kajiado and machakos counties estates - Kiambu county for most part has high end estates - it's not considered rich by any stretch in Kenya .

if they planted trees and fixed the roads it would good step forward. The potholes reminds me of Uganda. Why dont they like planting trees to deal with I hear the terrible heat is beyond me? I also saw huge generator by the road.

Example of Nairobi Metro estate it should aim for - Ngong town - you may not be able to see houses - because of large land - but certainly Ghana can learn about planting trees, trimming edges and the works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpfetaphi-c&t=467s

popizaino:
@Rvp2018

Watch till the end to confirm your suspicions.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOSV-l9-2Bw

Thika superhighway BRT nears completion

GeneralDae:
See who is talking of road network and yet you don't have paved roads in about 70% of your country Kenya?
Even your fellow Kenyan here admitted that.

our road quality is one Africa best..even non paved road as long as it's well maintained murram or gravel and is all weather is better than pot holed tarmac.First start by enforcement of axle road and even cutting overgrowth in your road

68816419:
The Sukuk funding, Internal and external loan, national Treasury , excess crude account, PPP, and many more

I suggest you use the money to rehabilitate your road network before you build new..the culture of maintenance is sorely lacking in Nigeria..no point building a road then 5yrs later it's like moon surface

Using which money?

68816419:
Nigga, No country is building road projects in Africa as Nigeria ,the projects Covering over 13,000 Kilometres of the 35,000 plus Kilometres of Federal Highways and Bridges. over 800 road projects are ongoing,
here is the link of the projects

https://worksandhousing.gov.ng/management/uploads_images/1562351340.pdf

Good progress. There are still 8 million IDPs? I dont know why you keep 8 million in tents and just build 500 houses for a few one!

68816419:
@RVP2008 Borno closes its 6th IDP camp as officials inspect the construction of 500 detachable houses in Mai Bukarti and Jubrinti, in Jere Local Govt., This what your government should be doing Too many development
Unveils, Allocates 580 Resettlement House to Displaced Families in Borno state , a state far more developed than many Kisumu and Nakuru combined

Take you medicine mad man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP8P19RxIWk

Just40:
the answer is obviously yes .... If after reading what I wrote and you didn't get you answer, it simply because you are dumb..

A place with good water and electricity supply than most people is Nairobi will have ( Nairobians trek miles for water)

A place with better homes and good roads which is something 70% of Nairobians don't have especially considering the number of flying toilets

14- kilometer road - and it's a reconstruction - you have a long way to build new stuff because your entire road network is totally dilapidated.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/buhari-to-inaugurate-ijebu-ode-epe-expressway-in-december/

68816419:
Early this month , Buhari commissions housing projects and 41km dual carriage road built by Dapo Abiodun in Ogun State.( no single Noise was made ) , if any country in Africa would develop any time soon, surely it most be Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKHKsPVxdw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XWlRD-ZSOI

Old videos.

samorobo:
I don’t see no paved road neither do I see the toilet.peepoo still exist for a reason.
Majority of kibera resident are among the 50% not connected to the grid.tell this lies to someone else, stop wasting my time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxB6B8z_2HU

Kamikaze grotesque ideas that wont scale. Until you begin building high rises for the poor - you're wasting time, land and energy. Those houses near to be near their hustle....meaning near business district, industrial areas and upper class.

Otherwise youll create another Soweto problem.

Just30:
They are far beautiful and modern than leaving poor nairobians to live in nasty slum scrappers, zinc and mud houses without toilet
and guess what, they are far more affordable


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UsyWd7gDBo&t=58s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nbiSUX6QX8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoTNVhn1p1c&t=31s

Kibera has seen a lot of improvement - there now thousands of toilets - there are now paved roads - everyone has electricity that works 24hrs - and they have water. It's better than 99 percent of Nigeria.

Again remember our slum problem is very easy to solve.

2 percent of land mass. 5 percent of built up area.

EASY.

Yours need jesus.

samorobo:
Kibera had a plan since 2003 and hasn’t implemented shiit,who the fvck are you to interrogate me?

Container city That is why your president has Nairobi as his north star. A used container is 1,000usd but that is not a house.

Just30:
Lunatic

Do these beautiful 12,000 dollars homes look slummy to you?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePKAr_5YkXM&t=156s

or this 6,000 dollars one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgwOkwxQ0I&t=1183s

or these ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7KdM26CpM



you are fuming at your mouth because there's no way that Kenya can solve it huge slum mess all around the country

Yet you never stop watching videos looking for broken pavement.

samorobo:
Your cbd is actually a slum like mombasa’s. I though this was different. Lol you keep wasting my time.

We are not doing to impress anybody. We are doing to provide decent housing to every kenyan including Okada driver! Affordable housing is for low class so they can also live like humans - not like Nigeria zoos.

Now what is big plan for Makoko and entire slumpolis that is Lagos.

samorobo:
A few is less than 5k. You are not impressing Uganda at this point.

Small problem of improving paving and walk ways. We are working on that. Nairobi Non motorized transport will cost mere 10M dollars. It's under way and most of it already fixed.

That is lipstick - but big problem is eliminating slums.

samorobo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiMDdAc0iQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv0ede9RvP8

Mad cow - container houses? You cities are slumpolis. Not comparable to Kenya cities. Your housing problem is gigantic. You need to build brand new cities from the scratch. You cannot fix Accra. You'd have to do what Rwanda did...mass demolition and displacement of people. You literally need to flatten your cities and start a fresh.

A city should look like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE&t=799s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

Nairobi we have small problem - Just 5 percent of the land mass.

Just40:
you mean an endless number of well planned communities with beautiful homes..

Those can't be compared to your nasty slumscrapers, zinc and mud houses that fill your city...

West Africa contained that problem far back in the 70s hence why it hasn't become a huge mess like in Kenya where everything is a slum.. That is why you won't find huge slums in most west African cities like you find doting all over Kenya


See the beautiful affordable homes that people are getting at 13,000 dollars
This is the power of the private sector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhrN9Cy4DQ

We have completed a few thousands - many thousands are under construction now. If our president was not half-drunk most of the time - we should have done a lot of work.

samorobo:
We heard this four years back and the years before yet nothing. You had the knowledge so what’s stopped you from harnessing. I expected by now you should have erected those structures.next year will make it 5 years y’all were screaming “by 2023 we will have 500k affordable housing units” almost 5 years now and we haven’t seen a concrete block.

See you're mad cow - because you dont even read but proceed to make crazy arguments devoid of any factoid.

In first place your housing sector is even worse than kenya - there is barely any private sector involvment.

It's informal sector completely - people building their houses in different colours and shapes - and creating huge mess - which worse than Kenya slum problem - because it create an ENDLESS SLUMPOLIS of tin shacks like ACCRA, KUMASI AND NIGERIA CITIES How do you even begin to address your housing problem? Everywhere is just ramshackle of tin shacks mixed with offices and churches - sprawling endlessly.

Kenya at least has problem that can be contained before it become west african mess.

And it can only be contained by BIG DEVELOPERS BUILDING THOUSANDS UNITS IN ORDERLY FASHION.

You cannot call private sector - informal sector - where everyone wakes up - buy land - start building slowly and slowly - over 20yrs - and create a huge mess.

Countries that have developed leave that job to insurance companies, large housing companies - talking 10,000 units estates, pension funds and such private housing sector who can deploy ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

People in developed world dont even know how to build a house because they just buy a house through mortagages - it's not Africa dotted with hardware shops with everyone building their thing on their own pace on their own taste - INFORMAL HOUSING SECTOR.

Just40:
I don't have time to read all your nonsense...

The private sector knows how to build affordable housing at 11,000 to 20,000 dollars beautiful homes and they still make profit.

Private sector is profit driven. They are not going to build low end housing units that are affordable - but are market driven - because they borrow money from banks - and have to repay loans - and make profit.

What kenya is doing is simple - de-risking the private sector.

Public sector or gov will NOT BUILD ANY HOUSE.

Kenya gov is de-risking the private sector that want to involve themsleves in AFFORDABLE housing - not build luxury units.

What kenya gov will do is to provide free land (30% of cost of unit is land) because gov has lots of land - and secondly it also going to allow zero rated building materials and zero taxes on profit (that is another 30% down) - lastly the gov is going to build horizontal infrastructure within housing estates (roads, water pipes, sewage, etc) - another huge cost cut.

That drastically cut the cost of housing for those building affordable units....and they can deliver a two bedroom for 20K usd.

That fixes SUPPLY SIDE.

Then we move DEMAND side...effective demand. How do we get poor people driving trotos or driving okada to afford 20K usd unit.

Simple - like you have done for your National Health Insurance - we have similar housing levy - that provide them with deposit - say 2,000K usd - sort of IMPOSED COMPLUSORY SAVINGS for their housing need.

Then give them 15-20yrs mortgage - that should be equivalent to the rent they pay now as okada rider renting a house.

These people pay maybe 50-80USD for slumscrapper unit. Now they will pay the same - and it will be mortagage - not rent.

Now the developer build these cheap houses - the gov uses the housing levy and commercial banks to issue loans - and where loans are not affordable - the kenya mortgage refinancing will TOP UP.

This model that is already working - we just need to scale it.

Just40:
Ghana even started building the 10 billion dollars 200,000 unit project all across the country and then infighting happened between the partners just after a month which landed in a huge court battle.

Now the private sector is leading the effort with over 2 million units under construction.
The solution to affordable housing is private sector led... The 60s to 90s are long over

Anything would fail in zoo like Nigeria or Ghana - even basic stuff like electricity supply. Affordable housing was working in Kenya until IMF/WB SAP led to it's abandonment in late 80s and early 90s - and housing sector went informal.

So this something that has worked before...Singapore is good example of how it can work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dBaEo4QplQ

Before we abandon affordable housing - we built estates like buruburu, umoja, name them - nyayo high rise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzhMtGkrEdM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwgVhL7kAVg

The zoo patronizing Kenya Really Nigga. Zoogeria can NEVER EVER tell us anything. I rather listen to a South African.

samorobo:
All I keep hearing is promises,future tense,we will,Chinese will,Kenyatta will for the recent years. I still remember how you,jonrad,Tylaan ,stevoh18,yobeezy made this same exact noise with thesame exact lines 5 years ago.Fastforward now and pictures are still failing,you are left with empty words from 4 years back in 2022. Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? Stfu and rest.

Bla bla de bla. As always please keep it pictures and videos. You're obsessed with Nairobi because it better than anything in Nigeria.

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE

samorobo:
No you lie,everywhere outside your 3cbd is a slum or rather a demeaning unimpressive settlement and this is prevalent across your country.

Let’s just say Nairobi extremely numerous (becos everywhere you turn to is a slum) occupy 5 percent,then the decent areas are like 1%(remember 85% of ur urban populace lives in what is regarded as a slum).the rest is forest that has t been deforested.so that noise on 5% is dead on arrival. The slum will keep ballooning into the forest as more rural-urban migration happens. So I predict 12% in the coming decade.

Deal with your Buhari first before you demand action. Are you now a Kenyan?

There has been action - lots of action - but not as fast as would have been ideally.

The affordable housing model is tested - it's just the execution that has been as fast.

Chinese developers were willing to put up 750,000 units - and all gov provide them is free land, zero taxes on inputs and on profit - gov to also build roads and all horizontal infrastructure.

That will make those units very cheap - and then Kenya Mortagage Refinancing - would issue mortagage - so cheap almost every kenyan would afford - because it will equal to their current rent - 100 dollars or even less per month - sort of Tenant Purchasing agreement.

The biggest failure was inability to get Housing Levy to pass in parliament and court.

Once this is done - Kenya can build a million housing units - and Joburg will look like a child to Nairobi.

samorobo:
We don’t indulge in cheap political promises,we want visible action not carrot talk.

FACTS are stubborn things.
Slum occupy only 5 percent of built up area. Yes it houses millions - coz of their density.
Nairobi is actually a deceptively developed city - you will not see those slums - maybe Kibera is one that is very visible from Langata.
Nairobi has three if not five business districts.
Nairobi middle and upper class residence is more than half the city. The other half - Eastland - half of it also very decent.
Slums and slumscrapper occupy very small land.
The problem is contained and easy to solve.

68816419:
same promise promise shiiit, the fact still remains that, Nairobi tiny CBD shouldn't equate the whole of Nairobi CBD

If the current president had focused on Big 4 agenda that included Affordable Housing - we would be somewhere - but he choose to focus on fighting his deputy and attempting to change the constitution.

But if we get right president - Nairobi slums can be eliminated in 5yrs - while providing employment to 2 million people.

Below has been epic failure - although he is claiming to have build 185,000 units - I doubt if he even achieved 20,000 units.

Our slums appeared in late 80s and early 1990s. The solution is simple. Ruto who is running for president this year has promised to eliminate all.

Slum arose because kenya gov got out of social affordable housing.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-01-12-ruto-ill-do-away-with-slums-if-elected-president/
“We will employ 400,000 youths to take part in the construction of the new units as we plan to move the people of Nairobi from the slums to the modern houses which will have enough water and a proper sewage system.”

68816419:
Stop celebrating small victories, ; Nairobi will never be a developed nation because the majority of the city is underdeveloped and the tiny developed parts are not even habited by the majority of the population who are blacks. What will you do with locations like Mathare, Githurai, Kawangware, Waithaka, and Zimmerman, as well as significant swaths of Nairobi? tiny section of Runda is good, but Mji wa Huruma behind presents a different picture, Karen is an affluent area for those who want and can afford high life( mostly British whites and few Politian) , but right beside it is Kuwinda slum with dwellers surviving on a lot less than a dollar a day, what do you
1- Huruma an area adjacent to Runda 75,498 persons(2019)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EEPUZQ8MrE
2- Kuwinda slum just behind Karen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T21VBBGrYhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKmiFjU3gs

Dead on arrival. We are approaching 20yrs. How many people reside in that city

samorobo:
No city in Africa,I repeat no city in Africa comes close to this in beauty,infrastructure and the list goes on. Just look at those beautiful canal,and the water goshh!!!!!! So fvcking beautiful.