₦airaland Forum

jln115:
how did SA have a head start? Couldn't Kenyans build a country without a whitey?

You had more minerals than any country on earth..Saudi Arabia of mineral.Your country was not built by whites but incredible minerals on its soil like Botswana and Namibia

And some midget from Accra - a city looking like Nairobi of 1960s has spend the entire day trying to challenge our common senses

Give Nairobi 10 or less years - and No city in Africa will be anywhere close.

We just need to fix light rail - and fix more roads - I think we are nearly there in all

And then also fix the few slums - occupying only 5% of Nairobi built area or 2% of Nairobi landmass.

Nairobi - 6th most dynamic city - meaning fastest growing city - only one in top 10 in the world against Asian cities

Nairobi CBD when you combine is starting to whip South Africa's Joburg (main cbd, rosebank and sandton)

Nairobi old CBD

Nairobi Upperhill

Nairobi Kilimani

Nairobi Parklands

Nairobi Westlands.

And Mombasa roads

Heck even Eastleigh is a serious business district

Accra is where Nairobi was in 1960s
http://www.mccrow.org.uk/EastAfrica/Kenya/Kenya.htm

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Precisely. Ghana's Accra is Nairobi of 1960s.
In 1970s - Nairobi started building highrises.
In 1980s - That is where Ghana is aiming for - as you saw in the picture from their midget president.
Nairobi post 1990s is too much for Ghana.

Nairobi of 2020 is going toe to toe with Joburg and Cairo.

gallivant:
Vintage Nairobi was still better than present Accra.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjNXEbWXsAEpYNg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjNXFSrW4AYpVkw.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjNXFgRXsAImU6S.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjNXGlJWwAEmijT.jpg

jln115:
No the point is SA is not a developing nation like Kenya but a NIC

Stuck in a middle class trap

Just30:
which pic of him was nairobi of the 80s?

Nairobi world fastest growing or dynamic city nonsense still makes it city center small than Accra

That makes nairobi a joke

Nairobi of today is not even close to Accra status of 10 years ago.

Develop nairobi infrastructure fast for it to catch up and stop making noise here.

No sane person will dignify Accra by comparing it to Nairobi. TRY MOMBASA

jln115:
Johannesburg skyscrapers: 16............Nairobi: 11

I bet if we included those under construction or approved

Just30:
Know what?

That the picture he took was Nairobi of 80s..Nairobi is sixth world fastest growing or dynamic city..

Just30:
kai

when nairobi is far below joburg in development , how will it be Africa capital?

delusional kid

please let your president know that...he already declared Nairobi to be beyond aid goal north star

jln115:
you are truly delusional as fvck bru

I may also be blind because joburg in terms of high rises is soon trailing Nairobi..maybe Sandton is impressive but the rest mm.Nairobi is the new Africa capital

The walling is mostly what we call "ndaruguo stones" - mostly machine cut natural stones found near Thika town. I think Nigeria you guys have to cast - your blocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAd8lHioCGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtwCpYpJ1I
https://i.roamcdn.net/hz/pi/listing-thumb-543w/c415c21bd5a579cac5a6b21e5a0cb406/-/horizon-files-prod/pi/picture/qn78w50/719bdc031a187264a52cb81bfa5c7c769aa6a263.jpeg
https://d12prgon3aw7l1.cloudfront.net/1638700_img-20190717-065110-4_1500x1125.jpg

Vlain:
What do.u guys use in building this highrise. I don't like the exterior at all.And the roofing makes it even worse. It has very strong similarity with kibera affordable housing unit.

Looking at Joburg drones footage - I do think Nairobi has probably overtaken it - except for the Gautrain and few better roads although Nairobi is getting there soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg_n3mU1mwc

Big lie.

Vlain:
The Kenyan guy that drove along goblack2africa vlog said 90% of properties in kileleshwa, Westland, killimani is built and occupied by mostly Indians then Chinese.

Evidence..briqueetes of 6B dollars or you mean coal.

Austine1213:
Lol

Did you know our Cars exports are over $7b and briquettes $6b

South Africa did well - built one of world great's infrastructure - I cannot take that away from them. But now they are not doing as great. Their minerals are now running out - and it's time for Ghana, Nigeria and DRC - to step up and do something - before their minerals run out too.

Vlain:
Just shut it and enjoy SA pics with me once they start popping up. U can't write off that modernity even if U are a demon from hell.

Which foreigners have build skyscrapers in kenya
Kenya real estate is mostly by black kenyan.

vankelvin:
Skin pain is when you envy someone but in my case is the opposite.

I have said this severally.

Kenya Cities are better planned than ours.
They have more high rise buildings than us but beyond the planning and high-rises, what role do the citizens play in the development process of their country?

Should they talk the forefront in developing their country?
Or they should sit back and allow foreigners take over their country?

It is so stupid to see citizens rejoice over few high rise buildings which belongs to foreigners when majority of them live in the slums and suffer.

Your standards are very low. But at least you're better than your president who thought Nairobi of 1980s is good north star for Ghana.

South Africa built what you're enjoying ALMOST exclusively from minerals like gold.

Ghana you have the same minerals - you have no excuse not to build South Africa level of instratructure.

Vlain:
Becos it's not my place to and I enjoy SA pics. They are so modern than anything in Africa atleast for now. Let a man admire in peace cos their cities are that visual appealing.

When will you decorate our views with Ghana villages. You think by licking south africa ar.se you'll become one.

Vlain:
Then decorate our view with Pretoria pics .

We export and import power - it's part of East Africa power pool - you cannot afford to pay Nigeria for their gas.

vankelvin:
[b]

Ah, is this guy normal?

At least Ghana or nigeria generates their own power. And Ghana is self sufficient when it comes to power generation.

We don't buy power from other countries as you guys do. Without Uganda you guys are nothing when it comes to electricity generation.

I am. I use God for Nature.

popizaino:
I thought you were an atheist?

Nigeria - the generator city.
Ghana and Nigeria - you need a lot of electricity to just survive the heat - your need ACs in your homes or at least a fun.
Do you know in Kenya we don't need AC - except in very few places - like remote north where nobody lives.
Kenya sits mostly on highland/mountains - so it's very cold - despite being at the equator.
Our power consumption in typical household is therefore for lighting.

As for manufacturing - in COMESA - after Egypt - it's Kenya.

Obviously we don't have minning industry like you or south africa - consuming power

We do light manufacturing - leading Africa in AGOA textile manufacturing for example.

Just30:
Lies upon lies

The country that leads Africa in individual solar power generation is Nigeria even though they dont document it.


Ghana individual solar power generators currently have an install capacity of 400MW and some of them sell their excess to the national grid.




Kenya does not have industries so shut up
We all see that in your disgraceful trade data


Now you are making excuses for why your power consumption is so low

Most large institutions in Ghana have also switched to solar and that includes universities and research labs.

Yet our power consumption is still increasing at 300MW per year

He look like a typical Ghanian to me.

Appisko:
Mr kenya says hi

1) Kenya lead Africa in solar power installation at household level - this is not documented anyway - so it not captured.
2) Nearly every kenya industrial player produces their own power. Not captured
3) Nearly every large institution in kenya have their own power source. Not captured.

Just30:
You keep making noise but this is our 2019 peak demand below in the chart
2,800MW

see the 300mw growth per year and realize how stagnant your country kenya is

All thermal plant are producing at capacity

check the chart below

Its a disgrace for Kenya to only half the consumption of electricity that Ghana has

Precisely. Very obtuse.

Shma2020:
you'll never convince this zombie with anything. a zombie who can confidentiality say village Accra with two highrises, few interchanges and nearly zero rail services is ahead of Nairobi is just a classical case of fantasy dwellers.

From horse mouth
http://www.energycom.gov.gh/planning/data-center/energy-outlook-for-ghana

Just30:
your lies dont even surprised me any more

It is pure stupidity.


We have more than enough gas on our hand such that all our thermal plants are producing at full capacity.

Our FRU will land very soon and shell will be supplying us Additional one million tonnes of LNG for new Thermal plants that will come on stream this year and next year.

The single largest FRU in sub saharan Africa.

We've finished our gas pipeline from the west to the east to supply all existing thermal plants in the eastern enclave.

Akosombo dam is the least depended on power generator today, Bui dam is even more dependable than Akosombo.


It's not our fault that Kenya hasn't seen any real growth
A paltry 1900mw electricity consumption of kenya is stagnation

Please midget...I just gave you a report from your own energy regulator - the latest for 2020 - regarding 2019 - I am sure 2020 is bad - for everyone. The nonsense you are spewing are waste of your time.

As of 2019 - peak demand was 2,300MW.

Installed capacity is nothing - most of thermal plants - from your own regulator report - are idle - mostly for lack of fuel or gas.

Just30:
Guy you are living in the past

Ghana generation capacity is 5,200 megawatts
Dependable generation capacity is 4,800MW because machines dont run at 100% efficiency.

Current peak demand is 3,400MW and will grow by an additional 300MW to 500MW this year, bringing peak demand to 3,700 or 3,900MW.

It takes a vision to anticipate the growth in your over demand and provide the necessary infrastructure to meet those challenges ahead of time.


Kenya is stagnant hence why your electricity demand remains as small as that of Togo or Ivory Coast.

Let me leave you video evidence of what we have done.

Take 30minutes of your life to watch these videos - and come back - and tell me again that we have done nothing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NIgWNh1Vs&t=719s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE&t=319s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE1Y-e21HM&t=235s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRdqC4lhRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuoAznN-Alc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtC3iQIg3kM

Appisko:
Kenyans nonsense and egocentric bull crap is what I dislike about u ppl . Kenya have done nothing to be proud fo is not our fault u guys are poor .
U country have done nothing all it's doing is borrowing and keep borrowing

Ur country is gradually becoming a Chinese colony

Installed capacity versus real consumption - huge mismatch in Ghana - real consumption is not even 2,500MW - while installed capacity is twice that.
Most of your thermal plants - are idle - expensive misadventure.
Kenya we have very little thermals plants - and are now almost on renewable clean energy.

Just30:
Aluminium smelter takes only 75MW and it is the largest electricity consumer. And that is why it is as a bulk consumer and the only one listed.


6 different steal plants will be coming online this year
3 different fertiliser plants will come online this year

6 car manufacturers will have their plants online this year.

And we will have to increase our electricity production by another 2000MW.


Real growth is seen in an expansion in electricity consumption

More reading - I discovered your thermal power is mostly dysfunctional - due to lack of gas/fuel (can't afford to pay Nigeria?) - and so even smelting has to be constrained by power. It appears the real power is mostly hydro.

So your installed capacity is just good for the books - but in reality - you're still relying on Kwame Nkurumahs 1960 volta akosombo dam

Just30:
Aluminium smelter takes only 75MW and it is the largest electricity consumer. And that is why it is as a bulk consumer and the only one listed

The usual lame excuses.
Kenya has done very very well compared to many (nearly all) of Sub-Sahara Africa without MINERALs.
Ghana your country is rich in gold, oil, bauxite, name it.
And yet your cities, rural areas and name it look horrible.
You have a dysfunctional democracy where every gov in power fudges figures to look good.
That is why Ghana fails the picture test.
Don't blame me - it's Kazikazi igneous invention - one of those engineering things of pottery.

There is NO SINGLE DAY a SANE KENYAN will respect Ghana or Nigeria - after what we know.

God gave you everything - but the brains - to turn it around.

Arable land, Minerals, huge rivers, forests, sea, name it - and YOURE POOR - and your entire cities shanties.

God gave us only 11% arable land and no minerals.

And yet when you look at Kenya - you got be proud of what we have done for ourselves - best out of the worst (africa) of course.

Appisko:
What the Kenyans here needs to realize is that few high rises doesn't mean ur country is developled .
Development should be cut across the whole country lol the turkana people all need portable water and access to electricity l

Get rid of kibere which is 5km to ur CBD

Before u start compring ur country with countries why above ur league