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Let me help the Ghanian and Nigeria slum dwellers understand luxury.

Luxury and class is subtle. It doesn't scream like you have low self esteem and trying to overcompensate like the Trump Tower

The house should first be as functional as possible...like the best place to live in when all factors are considered.

In Nairobi - there are two very expensive houses - very old well built houses - some rent for 7,000 dollars a month - and contemporary ones.

Like this simple contemporary house...it deceptive but it has class only the discerning can notice.

Fenced mostly with white picket fence or a trimmed hedge. You guys are just used to living in squalor.

Just30:
So the US also have insecurity too as most of their properties are fenced and walled.

I was just posting an example of what I and many consider luxury finishes. Hard wood finishing. Now you're giving me cheap chinese ceramic finish - that floor is cold for your feet - you must wear socks or have a carpet - and many other factors that are considered. There are many reasons why people go for certain type of finishes...and hard wood is the most expensive - and the best.

Just30:

Rant on

that thing that you posted is so ordinary there is nothing in it that look like luxury.

Even average people homes here look better.


This is a middle class home, check the interior

See the corset and vanity everywhere

concrete walls are only common in countries like Africa where insecurity is a problem. The rest of the world have trimmed edges. In many place in Nairobi many people try to cover the concrete fences by planting hedges around it.

Just30:
He hasn't travelled before

let him fool around

This is actually standard everywhere except in Nigeria and Ghana. You guys don't have any class or know any luxury. If you want luxury in urban areas it very expensive. In Nairobi it's start by being able to afford at least 1/2-1 acre minimum - in leafy places - and everything from there is too subtle for you.

samorobo:
You are making noise...focus in the luxury home and leave your evil forest village greenery out if it.....


Btw the area is greenery.... perphap you need to learn the difference between urban greenery and rural greenery in estate development...rural greenery is more of a Kenyan style since they are usually tucked few kilometres from the city into a rural poverty village which is mostly a backwater as a result of decades of political ignorance and urbanity ..

The best in kenya is a little to sophisticated for you. You'll not understand. That is why you call Nairobi a forest. Referred to Kitusuru-Lower Kabete as forest.

samorobo:
Both interiorly and exteriorly our luxury taste is far ahead if yours...don't even go there...
Wood finishing is not the only form of luxury flooring they are wide varities those that fits into the style of home you are building...imagine using wooding finishing for a modern day condominium style building...that is pure satanic madness...
I have seen your best of best and they are nothiing close to ours... seriously I am not kidding..

Shitty house in shitty neighborhood. Luxury and class is actually easy - you're looking for a house that is livable in all the matrices. That means a lot of fresh air - that you generate by planting lots of trees, trimming grasses,lot of flowers, gardens, birds chirping, a few monkeys, a subtle drive way, swimming pool, kids play area, jacuzi, the best material for indoors - like hardwood that keep the house as natural as possible - and the same for the roof. You can put all security features but they have to be subtle...you can have stone wall but you plant hedge or ivys to cover it completely.

At end of the day we are primate - ANIMALS. Our natural enviroment is not a concrete jungle. It's the real jungle.

samorobo:
I don't see what's written g with perimeter fencing..it's a thing allover the world not just nigeria...
Here is a video with fencing in Abuja...the house looks lit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3xOWWWYmZM


The pics below is also a luxury home in SA with perimeter fencing...stop acting like a timid fool..

I see you've given up on the exterior.

Let's go to the interior.

What you call luxury in Nigeria is ostentatious display of fake gold plated Chinese trinkets. In kenya - luxury - is defined by HARD WOOD finishes. The more hard wood you see the more luxurious - and the less stuff (trinkets) - you see the more luxurious.

Luxury is subtle. One paint work could probably cost all the Nigerian "luxury" Chinese trinkets. One little wooden piece of furniture or a little carpet would be worthy more than your fake Chinese trinkets.

High end housing look like this on the interior. On the exterior - the more trees you see the more expensive. You see life is very funny luxury is all you got right there in Nigeria - you don't have to ship truckloads of fake chinese trinkets.
https://www.woodproductskenya.co.ke/images/floor/slider/Flooring_4.jpg
https://www.citiscapevaluers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Sakile-Bogani-Park09-1200x680-1200x680.png

samorobo:
Dude you know when it comes to luxury you have alot to learn from us..most especially interiorly...
Your interior finishing is wack and overpriced...y'all do the payment detail attention to every corner or the house..I guess maybe that is the taste of the Market (Kenya)

I don't think you have an idea what middle class development look like.

Just30:
I wish i was that smart in Social engineering so that i wont be working all around the world.

My middle class areas which cut across my entire country is what a Kenyan wish for in life but will never attain because only 4% of Kenyans are destine in life to own a home.

Go through Ghana on any map and all you will see is middle class development for miles.
Too bad your country does not have a middle class because everyone is just so poor that they cant afford a home.

Urbanization without requisite development. Urban sprawl of squalor. Slumpolis.

Saddamochieng00:
If you want to see West African shithole in their true states just head here. I swear the area covered in slums in just two cities:Lagos and Accra is the size of a fvcking country.

6.59°N 3.31°E | Zoom Earth https://zoom.earth/#view=6.589655,3.313952,14.57z

You want to compare 10 units housing estate with neighborhood some sq kilometers long. Ghana - where is all that gold - gone to?

Just30:
dont worry

you will catch up some day.
When you do, more than 4% of your citizens will be able to owned their own homes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2qVDAr9zF8&t=148s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ye0LMuULBQ&t=10s

Yes, formal retail is now at 33%.kiosks and groceries in Kenya accounted for 66.3 percent.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/image/view/-/5208286/medRes/2403280/-/maxw/1272/-/a0npapz/-/conveniece.jpg
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/datahub/Retailers-shift-battle-for-market-share/3815418-5208258-v0sr4o/index.html

I told them they are going down so fast. Instead they started hating on the messenger.

mtisTheQubit:

When it come to formal shopping - we are 2nd to South Africa in SSA. We are probably going 35% formal retail - while Nigeria is not even at 5%.
Local Kenya stores
Nakumatta dead was 65 plus stores -
Tuskys is 60 plus stores
Naivasa is 60 plus stores
Quickmatt is 30 plus stores - merged with Tumaini
CleanShelf - more than 10
Chandarias - more than 10
Maathais - more than 10
Magunas - more than 10
Kassmatt
Eastmatt.

So many - even in my little town of Kericho - Kipchimatt now has maybe 10 stores


Foreign stores
Ukwala/Choopies - Kenya bought by Botswana - now dead
Shoprite - dying
Carrefour - thriving
Game
Other south africans stores have come and gone -

obaaderemi:
Kenya's top 3 store chains do not have 60 stores plus. Stop lying.

Besides, Foodco is headquartered in Ibadan. Show me any supermarket chain outside Nairobi as big as that.

Store chains do not have to have 60 outlets to outperform foreign stores. What the country needs are many small players. Some with less than 6 outlets. That's the secret. Retail income in Nigeria is still far larger than in Kenya.

Gold coast use to claim they don't have skyscrapper but are developed But surely if they look at Nairobi low rise development - they know they will get here in 2100.

Some Nigerian by name of Sammy described Kitusuru as forest or his village in Igboland. These west africans are insane.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXRvgio_X4M&t=620s

Saddamochieng00:
I used to think that minerals were a curse on African countries until I discovered a shithole by the name Venezuela. From a country which was at one time the richest on earth to what it is now is quite shocking. I also see South Africa heading in the same direction.

But at least they left the country a bit developed unlike a certain Gold Coast whose cities look like chicken coops.

obaaderemi:
In Ibadan for example- it's Foodco. How can Shoprite with 2 stores in Ibadan compete with Foodco with 11?

And @ bolded... We are controlling our retail sector unlike the little Indians who according to TayserMahria, have left it to the French Carrefour.

11 stores and you talking about controlling.. grow it first..Kenya stores are approaching 500 if I am not wrong.Top 3 local stores each has 60 plus

Desperate Nigerians,

Why can't Nigeria build their own rail. Shell will be transporting fuel through the railway. It happen British PE owned small part of Vivo - Shell downstream. PE don't own money - they are just a nameplate - more like brokerage. The only Nigerian about all these is two British-Nigerian founders.

But meanwhile Shell owns Nigeria. I mean the real shell.

samorobo:
Lol.ae are at it again...Nigerians is building their rails now ....rvp & shma will not like this...

Nanyuki-Nairobi rehabiliated 250km railway begin operation. Naivasha-Kisumu is also going to be rehabilitated starting this month. Nairobi commuter rail is also being rehabilitated


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7zFvH8z-N0&feature=emb_logo

Maybe mini-markets; Nigeria formal retail is very small.

chrisooblog:
true. the estate i live in has about 4-5 supermarkets selling various things. i think where shoprite has an advantage is that they have more of a variety of products but truth be told other super markets are cheaper

But why. Somalis and Ethiopeans are just into business - and they do well. Maybe it's contraband electronics and cheap clothing but surely that is a border control issues. They don't engage in crime or drug trafficking or Yahoo like West Africans.. They do a lot of Khat and that is pretty much it.

Yes they tend to trash - and spit a lot.

Austine1213:
The Ethiopians and somalis are the worst of worst in townships

kikuyu1:
Nigga, this place gets old with your redundantly repetitive BS! We long ago established the true nature of Abuja a combined
-Potemkin village with abandoned mansions built for money laundering
-a giant open air toilet even within the CBD without basic amenities like any other town in Naij.
Must I repost the pics?

nearly missed this

I predicted Museveni would defeat COVID-19
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/africa/article/2001381317/ugandas-tough-approach-curbs-covid-even-as-africa-nears-1-million-cases

At least we have personal freedoms. We can express our thoughts, and share them freely.

Mzal3ndo:
Okay, you can insult the president, then what happens?? Do roads fall from the sky? Does he stop getting richer by exploiting poor Kenyans? Does corruption end? What benefit do Kenyans get from insulting their President?

You're an idiot. Tundu Lissu can plan to pump himself with 30 bullets or what was the number. Just for show. Tanzania you're cursed with stupidity.

Mzal3ndo:
Everyone in Tanzania where they accept it or not know that the shooting of Tundu Lissu was a CHADEMA inside job, just like they tried to kill Zitto Kambwe back then after he became bigger than the party. If the government wanted Lissu dead he would be and no one would think to point at the government. You might start saying why would Chadema do that, if they weren't responsible why are they hiding the key witness to the shooting?? It was an inside job gone bad

Obaboon, you're a funny man. RCB - Richard C Bowen - was started by Kenyan born white kid of a missionary doctor. He was denied citizenship Initially it was a way to connect with Kenyans in diaspora - and became a full blown forum - in those days - the average person online had a msc or ma or phd.

https://rcbowen.com/

"I grew up in Kenya, and started the first website, ever, about Kenya, back in 1992. It's gone, but not forgotten"

This if you're tech inclined like me was pre - HTTP(S) - the protocol we are using to communicate with you.

It started as gopher - more like morse-code. During my time in the ISP - many were happy with dialup modem on their landline phone.

It was cheaper than what was available...damn expensive long distance calls..or letters that would arrive 3 months later.

The world has changed so fast. Online forums have changed very fast - from PHD level discourse to what we are doing now - folks who are hardly literate shouting obscenities' day in day out . It's one reason RCB finally closed shop after nearly 25yrs.

obaaderemi:
When you start your name calling game, it shows that I got my knee on your neck and you can't breath.

Kenyatalk named after Rich Bowen? Do you know what it means to be named after someone? Kenya got internet in 1993 and it wasn't mainstreamed until 1995. So how could you have Kenyatalk in 1992?

Is Kenya a decent country? Your Mashada and other sites were largely failures.

Rubbish as usual. If an idiot halfbaked specimen like you could belong to a forum then someone with the brains of sufferinsmiling could hack it there. You should know you are not intelligent by now.

So, can you show us any link to show that Kenya had internet in 1992? And that your phantom Kenyatalk existed in 1992?

Uhuru is game. Well adjusted if you ask me considering his family wealth. Someone who graduates from Amherst in Art degree is very good. I once worked with Chinese-American (adopted) Amhret graduate and I can say she was the smartest - well 2nd smartest person - well the 3rd - the 2nd has to be this little Belgium-Korean girl from Yale. The first has to be this insane American from Carlton..Bleep that..it has to be Oxford Briton I co-founded a company with early in my career.

What were we talking about. yes, Uhuru is bright.

68816419:
Nigga I am not Uhuru Kenyatta

If you want to compare banking industry - then you go there. If you want to compare individual banks then you go to the Banker. Just be aware due to different markets - don't use it to pass judgement on a country.

68816419:
so?

I prefer the Freudian slip. It tells me more about yourself than this pretend machoism.

Just30:


I dont date Kenyan women, they are too ugly for my liking and most people liking.

I am not an Asante and yes i bought a teen slave an the person was Kenyan.

I castrated the kenyan guy and sterilized the Kenyan ladies womb so she doesn't continue bring poor and dumb people into this world.

Banking stats can be found in your Central Bank. Stop the cheap insults oga. Next time you're in Nairobi installing shitty system - I can buy you changaa.

68816419:
Mad man, what stats do u need than the total capital , revenues or international presence of these banks?

You'll never be a south african even if your praise them. Chance are high they will kill you - those ungrateful kwerekwere weaklings - killing Africans instead of taking their land from the Boer.

Nigerians you're a joke. The first time I was in South Africa - right at the airport- those Zulus - police officer - were telling Nigeria they are UNWELCOME - right at the Bleep,.ing OR Tambo Airport. That was 2002.

These were police officers just telling random Nigerians to go back home - they are not needed or welcomed.

samorobo:
Mpumalanga over Kenya anyday,any freaking time..

They will soon update - like they did the PPP - and you will be JustShutupAlready.

Just30:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=KE

This is what the world bank says
Go argue with them

Jesuraleem ooho!

gallivant:
College dropout from Western Cape ran for the hills of Mpumalanga fast.