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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:44pm On May 10, 2019
Nairobi - More angles.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:41pm On May 10, 2019
You mean a toll gate smiley - that road is double lane I think.
jaycent:
In your widest dream. Do you have this kind of road shocked
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:40pm On May 10, 2019
Nairobi - More angles smiley

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:22pm On May 10, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:00am On May 10, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:25pm On Apr 17, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:07am On Apr 17, 2019
Nope. First, he wanted to build a cement company - he talked big - and wanted concession - free land, free rights to coal, tax holiday of 10yrs and lots of freebies - gov said nope. Kenya has many cement companies - and they don't ask for any freebies - they buy land, get limestones, clinker and get any special favors.

That was 10yrs ago. Now one of Kenya cement company is on the red - and Dangote is among the many suitors.

Dangote like many Nigeria businessmen is not straight. They benefit from Nigeria closed economy. Abuja have like 30-50 list of critical items whose imports are banned or require some license. They also have stone-walled regional integration. That is what Abuja federal gov uses to make money for themselves or their friends.

They cannot hack it in place like Kenya which is very open liberalized economy - and we have free trade with East Africa countries.

vaxx2:
lol. I read about the saga, he wanted to buy an existing cement factory in kenya thereby monopolized kenya cements. What he is currently doing in Ethiopia with his 1.2 biillion cement factory. In Ghana , he has gotten a production plant and large warehouse but he will not get the opportunity to monopolize the cement business , though it is selling well in Ghana but not as Ghacem and diamond.

Dangote already monopolize Nigeria cement industry,. If given the chance well enough, he will monopolized any exsiting market he ventured.

Prior to 2003, dangote is just like any normal Nigeria billionaire but the saga of obasonjo and his vice( Atiku) then paved way for him to put Nigeria in his pocket. And that is how obasonjo compensate him with what he is benefiting today. Since he was a chief donor to obasonjo. And again, he Will soon be given Nigeria destiny (oil) if he successfully complete his billions dollar refinery. The refinary according to expert has the capacity to produce more than the four combine Nigeria exsiting refinery.


Dangote himself was successful oin the back of political corruption. So what else.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:25am On Apr 17, 2019
Says an idiot whose country is literally owned by Oil companies - namely SHELL.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-cables-shell-nigeria-spying
AskiaHarem:
Nobody owns Nigeria but native Nigerians. Nigeria the most independent black nation on earth. Where making bank while your few industries are owned by Indians, British settlers own large swaths of your land to grow flowers, and Chinese slowly buying up your resources and burying you in debt.

#PreyForKenya cry
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:57pm On Apr 15, 2019
Yes Kenya Shs is very resilent - and really all our macro-economic indicators looks good.
Jonraid:
The strong shilling has been our saviour. Look at how the likes of Ethiopia, Angola and Sudan have gone down the curve!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
3.9% - Magufuli is killing their country.
TayserMahri:
Kumamoto, we told you you cant run a country like a kiosk.

Dominant

Kenya’s economy is expected to remain dominant in the region, staying ahead of its rivals in terms of overall size and the welfare of the average citizen as expressed in GDP per capita.

Ethiopia’s GDP, which was previously tipped to overtake Kenya’s economy, is now projected to grow 7.7 per cent to $90.9 billion (Sh9 trillion) this year.

That of Uganda is expected to expand 6.2 per cent to $30.3 billion (Sh3 trillion).

Tanzania is estimated to register the lowest growth rate of 3.9 per cent to $61 billion (Sh6.1 trillion), interrupting its recent rapid expansion that has stood at more than six per cent per annum.


https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-tips-Kenya-economy-to-hit-Sh10trn-this-year/539546-5072338-view-asAMP-14ls2qiz/index.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
I see IMF have raised their 2023 - If the IMF projections hold out, Kenya’s economy could grow to Sh15.7 trillion in 2023.

Previously they claimed kenya economy would be 12.8 kshs or 128B in 2023.

Look like Morrocco is the next - then maybe Algeria - and we can face the big giants of Egypt & South Africa - Nigeria

Jonraid:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-tips-Kenya-economy-to-hit-Sh10trn-this-year/539546-5072338-view-asAMP-14ls2qiz/index.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:15am On Apr 15, 2019
Nigeria cannot do all that - with 25B dollars annual federal budget - it insanity. They have no money.
tlann2:
It is the largest project in kenya so what is your problem
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:23pm On Apr 14, 2019
You got all oil in the world and huge arable land - but you see the POVERTY, the lack of basic electricity and general mess - you gat NO BRAINS.

Kenya has about 20% of it's land arable - the rest barren semi-desert - with nearly zero minerals - and yet if you looked at our cities, villages and nearly every indices of progress we are DOING BETTER.

Kenya has been able to build a broad-based well-diversified economy on the backs of it's human capital - we have invested in quality education and infrastructures - and it's paying off. We had few problems in 70s-90s as our population was world fastest growing - so despite growing - we lost all that to pop growth - now we have reigned on that - so expect to see us LEAPFROG many countries.

Kenya GDP ended the year - around 90B - we are waiting for final results of 2018 data - but IMF projection was 89.6B - normally IMF & WB - underate kenya economy by few basis points.

Angola like any typical oil country is this year in shambles. The Kwacha has collapsed. They are stuck with Nigeria in negative & low growth rate as Oil recoverty strutters.

samorobo:
To hell with you and your kenya has no minerals and it is a success story.who curse your country mot to have one.it is not our fault that your land is resourceless ..

That is just a prediction show me some thing real cause when we mention eko atlantic city you guys shout utopian dreams..
I challenge you to provide me a post that said kenya gdp currently sits at $89 billion and it has overtaken angola.
Remember I deal with reliable source
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:06pm On Apr 14, 2019
Start by educating yourself with internet. Kenya GDP as of last Dec was around 89.6B. This year it will end up around 99.2B according to IMF - possibly higher. Kenya economy will be 3rd biggest in Sub-Saharan Africa.

Obviously South Africa has done well - it used it's mineral resources (Gold,Platinum, Coal, diamond) well. Everyone knows Nigeria has wasted it's trillion dollars of oil revenues for most of it's 50yrs of independence. It now boasts of having the poorest people in the world.

Kenya obviously is the unique story of Africa - it has nearly zero minerals (unless you want to count salt smiley ) - and yet it has rapidly grown - and this year will be 100B dollar economy. When this thread started - I think Kenya was 45-55B dollar economy - and Nigeria was 500B (smiley ) - and 3yrs late as Kenya cross 100B - you're stuck there unable to out-cook the 2014 re-basing.

African countries GDP nominal in $ US Billion projected this year (IMF)

1. Nigeria - $444.9 billion [overcooked]
2. South Africa - $371.3 billion
3. Egypt - $299.6 billion
4. Algeria - $183.7 billion
5. Morocco - $121.4 billion
6. Kenya - $99.2 billion
7. Angola - $92.2 billion
8. Ethiopia - $91.0 billion
9. Ghana - $68.3 billion
10. Tanzania - $61.0 billion
11. DR Congo - $48.5 billion
12. Cote d'Ivoire - $45.3 billion
13. Libya - $45.0 billion
14. Cameroon - $39.2 billion
15. Tunisia - $36.2 billion
16. Sudan - $31.5 billion
17. Uganda - $30.4 billion


samorobo:
Olodo oshi..I don't know where to start with your illiteracy.
First your gdp is not more than $78 currently despite the 100% steady gdp growth.
You should be ashamed of your useless country.
You have the same population with south africa and you also share similar white investment just like SA, but where is your gdp when compared with theirs.
You got your independence before them and yet you barely rake up to $80 despite your useless overcooked growth whilst SA has been in deep recession since 2013 with a stunted growth of less than 1.2% anually.
It will be a curse for nigeria not to be a trillion dollar by 2028 not even 2030.next year we will be a $690 billion economy despite our stunted growth and our various diversification at its infant stage.even if we should grow by 2% we will still be a trillion dollar economy by 2030.

Let me start by Telling you that they are only three africa countries(Nigeria,south Africa, Egypt ) in africa that had been predicted to join the developed world in growing a trillion dollar economy and this was judge by our current growth individually.
You where lost on that list.overtake angola first then maybe I will open my self to the possibility that kenya is worth noticing
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:55am On Apr 14, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:48am On Apr 14, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:18am On Apr 14, 2019
Samrobo,
Kenya will be at South Africa current level in 10yrs - Nairobi by then will be Africa's Capital City (it already well under-way with most companies picking it her over Joburg).

Ten years ago - South Africa GDP was around 290B dollars - now at 2019 is projected to be around 370B.

Ten years ago - Kenya GDP was around 35B dollars - now at 2019 - it is projected to be 100B (3 times!! bigger).

We know Kenya's growth is broad-based, well diversified, has hit a sweatspot of 6% growth rate year on year and it about to reap demographic dividends - and unlike the oil or commodity dependant economies - like Nigeria or Angola - we can expect the momentum to be maintained.Kenya gov expect the economy to be around 150B by 2023.

South Africa medium-term economic prognosis is very bad - 1-2% growth rate - for next few years.

So 10 yrs from now - Kenya GDP will probably 300B - South Africa will be around 450B - around 2019.

By around 2032 - Kenya and South Africa will probably be around 500B - if Kenya won't have overtaken RSA at that point.

Nigeria probably won't exist as country then - Oil will be on it's way out - and Nigeria would be busy in civil war.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:56pm On Apr 13, 2019
Maybe in Nigera. Certainly not in Africa. You need to travel a lot more.
Can't beat even Nairobi.
https://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/3032578/highRes/1227794/-/maxw/600/-/w23bwn/-/dnThikaRoad0204b.jpg
68816419:
Best road networks in Africa (Abuja)
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:39pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - old CBD - still kicking ar.se

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:32pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - Slum Cities like Lagos & Abuja should learn something from her.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:24pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - Jozi will see dust by 2030. After the Big Housing Agenda is complete -- and furious real estate & infrastructure is complete - Nairobi will become the Capital City of Africa.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:14pm On Apr 13, 2019
More Nairobi - Random.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:10pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - Random

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:08pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - Random.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:05pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - Kilimani -

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:03pm On Apr 13, 2019
Nairobi - in next 5yrs - will completely transformed with 500,000 housing units planned.

Park Road

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:58pm On Apr 13, 2019
More pics of Nairobi - The Green City in the Sun.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:56pm On Apr 13, 2019
Picture break - Nairobi - my new workplace - Kilimani

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:55pm On Apr 13, 2019
Picture break...Nairobi..Green the City in the Sun.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:18am On Apr 11, 2019
In Sub-Sahara Africa - it appears Kenya will be providing competition to South Africa and Nigeria (paper giant).
Jonraid:
“Kenya, Nigeria and South Africa received 78 per cent of the total funding with Egypt close behind, an exact repeat of last year. Kenya took the lead attracting $ 348 million (+136 per cent YoY) in funding over 44 deals (+76 per cent YoY), Nigeria has attracted $ 306 million (+167 per cent YoY) in funding over 26 deals (+53 per cent YoY) and South Africa slowed down compared to Kenya and Nigeria, with US$ 250 million (+49% YoY) in funding over 37 deals (-12% YoY),” the report reads in part.

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/nigeria-kenya-south-africa-top-in-1-16bn-startups-funding-report/

Kenya leads Africa in startup funding and not Nigeria!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:17am On Apr 11, 2019
Kenya yes overtakes Angola to become the 3rd biggest SSA economy - after Nigeria (cooked) and South Africa.
Jonraid:
2019 IMF GDP forecast

Tanzania has been overtaken by Ghana

Even in PPP,we now bit Tanzania

Only drought stricken pastoralists and kibera would save them!

The next target is to reach Morocco, it would be a tall order but we can overtake them!



1. Nigeria - $444.9 billion
2. South Africa - $371.3 billion
3. Egypt - $299.6 billion
4. Algeria - $183.7 billion
5. Morocco - $121.4 billion
6. Kenya - $99.2 billion
7. Angola - $92.2 billion
8. Ethiopia - $91.0 billion
9. Ghana - $68.3 billion
10. Tanzania - $61.0 billion
11. DR Congo - $48.5 billion
12. Cote d'Ivoire - $45.3 billion
13. Libya - $45.0 billion
14. Cameroon - $39.2 billion
15. Tunisia - $36.2 billion
16. Sudan - $31.5 billion
17. Uganda - $30.4 billion
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:31pm On Apr 08, 2019
Their police head said something close to 11m undocumented illegals live in RSA. I know many zims - possible 2-5m have left for South Africa. In kenya we have seen truck loads upon truck loads of Ethiopeans and Somalis beeing trafficked down to South Africa for many years.
Kazikazi:
Mr home grown economist, where did you got that 10m?

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