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In many words Nigeria as Identity simply doesnt exist because you've not built it.
That is why Igbos want out.
20 states are fully on Sharia.
You simply dont exist as a Nation. You are just states.
What Kenya and Tanzania has shown rest of Africa is ability to create an African Identity through first common Language.
Now Kiswahili is being adopted by almost half African countries.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is multicultural, so I don't need to wear Bangles to remember my identity. UK has 4 countries making it up, that hasn't deleted anything from the UKs identity.

You've spend the whole day heckling.

obaaderemi:
When a grown man starts name-calling, I know he is crying.

Obaboon you're grunting as you tag team the mad cow. You bring more animals. The zoo has them in plenty. This is the time for you to play bonobo games.

obaaderemi:
You don't put Ashanti and anything Kenyan together. It's an insult.

Dressing in African Prints is not identity.
At least Tanzania can talk about Identity.
They are far ahead of kenya in that sense.
The rest of Africa remained hobbled by ethnicity.
Ghana and Nigeria - you dont even have a national african language.
Keny is miles ahead in creating a national identiy.
We are just behind Tanzania because of our ethnic politics that is starting to change now.

That probably the only think Julius Nyerere nailed - his economic policies failed but he created an admirable Tanzanian identity

Just40:
that's why they couldn't foster an identity and lost themselves.

Yes you're still slaves of your kings who own everything including your family land.

Kenya is modern country of everyone. Black, white, brown. As long as they are law abiding and are not sitting on stolen lands like south african whites.

We are not Ashanti Kingdom.

Just40:
sorry, we've not lost our identity like you to become this desperate.


We don't do that shit here

We are building a kenyan identity. Not Ghana where Twi at 49 percent dominate the others.

This is why every kenyan is wearing kenya bracelet.

Least said about Nigeria where Igbo are forever bitter the better.

Just40:


I'm sad for them... When you lose your identity, you really are lost

Manage GOLD first.

Just40:
if you want modern democracy, just come and learn from Ghana.
That kind of shit is only done by desperate people who have no identity

British had made Indians 2nd class citizen while Africans were 3rd class while they were 1st class.
Now everyone in Kenya is 1st class citizen of Kenya.
That is how you build a modern cohesive and prosperous nation.

obaaderemi:
What problems did Indians cause you before you started attacking them, raping their girls and stealing their property in the 70s?
Oh, it's intertribal problem.

We recognised Indians who came here in 1890 as a tribe
We recognised Nubians who came from Sudan in 1910s as a tribe
We recognised Makonds who came from Mozambique in 1940s as tribe
We recognised Shonas who came from Zim in 1960s as tribe.
I am sure next tribe to be recognised in kenya will be stateless Igbo people if they dont engage in crime and get deported.
Even Twi if they present their case will can make them a tribe...tribe of short people with short ambition
We want diverse and modern democracy.

Once they are recognised - they get privelleges as minority - they get hired into jobs - are given gov contracts - etc.

Kenya modern constitution protect minorities - and gov has to have face of kenya - so one Indian there - a shona here - we protect and welcome all.

In turn they dont repatriate their money like chinese do in Ghana. Make chinese Ghanians and maybe they will invest in Ghana long term not smuggle your gold.

Just40:
you're a funny guy

Designating India as a tribe is one insane thing

What problems have Indians caused us? They didnt grab our land? They didnt colonize us? What is your beef with Indians? They open small manufacturing business and soon graduate into big things.

What we did in kenya was brilliant - unlike other Africa countries where you find India running retail & wholesales ( I saw in Ghana - Chinese do this - in Kenya we banned them from retail & dukawallas.

Now most Indians in kenya are into manufacturing - creating many jobs. They cant get work permits to bring other Indians - so they hire kenyas.

In Nigeria - you got a million indians who do anything - from welding to driving trucks - and they come everyday - without work permit. Dangote has hired gazillion - in almost all his businesses.

Your gov protect Dangote business - ostensibly so he can provide jobs - he hires Indians

obaaderemi:
They've accepted Indian domination. That's why they designated the Indians in Kenya as a tribe as if the Indians don't belong to different Indian tribes already. How the Indians must have laughed at them. Remove the Indians from Kenya's economy and see the country die.

Yes of course. You cant hide fake data for long; USSR tried until they gave up in 1990.

kikuyu1:
Btw,rmbr way back in '16 on ToT we first discovered Dr Hanke as he revealed Naij hyperinflation? I'm glad much of what we've been saying has been validated by events.

Kenya -> In bid to collect 30B dollars by end of next year as taxes Ruto commit to register every kenyan with ID as taxpayer - and double that to 60B dollars (almost South Africa level) in 5yrs.

Universal tax registration is a historic endeavour to enlist all Kenyans in the patriotic effort of reinforcing our independence by enhancing self-reliance.

The imperative of embracing technological solutions to KRA’s strategic issues is clear. There are only 7 million people with KRA pin numbers. At the same time, in the same economy, Safaricom’s MPESA has 30 million registered customers, transacting billions daily. The fact that this opportunity remains unclear to KRA demonstrates why radical changes are necessary. Every Kenyan with an ID should have a PIN number. Technology and a considerate, fair and professional mobilisation will do the job quite well. Safaricom, a telco, has registered more people than KRA, a powerful state organisation. It is very clear that the magic lies in technology and strategy, not power and resources.

Why are not planning to refine their own. You should colonize Ghana officially

samorobo:
Rvp pls read carefully and ooze those salty tears



Dangote Refinery will cut Ghana’s fuel imports and reduce pump price, says NPA Ghana Chief Executive

- The completion of the refinery is expected to have a huge impact on Ghana’s downstream sector, which is currently deregulated.

- Ghana is presently facing the challenge of a continuous rise in the price of petroleum products due to high importation costs and a deregulated downstream industry.

The West African nation, which has been a net exporter of crude oil since 2010, is highly vulnerable to oil price shocks because it imports a significant share of petroleum products consumed in the country, mainly from Europe (Rotterdam). As a result, their economy is subject to volatility in international markets for crude and petroleum products, as seen recently with the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Things are, however, expected to change as the Chief Executive Officer of the National Petroleum Authority (NPA) of Ghana, Mustapha Abdul-Hamid, believes the coming onstream of the Dangote Petroleum Refinery is expected to transform the Ghanaian downstream sector.

According to him, the coming onstream of the 650,000 barrels-per-day (bpd) Nigerian refinery will transform the Ghanaian downstream sector through the reduction in the cost of importation of petroleum products into Ghana.

Speaking at the 16th Oil Trading and Logistics Expo in Lagos, Abdul-Hamid said the completion of the Dangote Petroleum Refinery project would be a breakthrough for the West African region, which has for a long time depended on the importation of petroleum products.

“Right now, Ghana’s downstream industry is completely deregulated, and there is no petrol subsidy in Ghana. For a deregulated market where the importers recover their costs fully, importing from Nigeria will certainly be more cost-effective and cheaper than importing from Rotterdam in the Netherlands, where we get the bulk of our fuel in Ghana,” he said.

“As we all know, the price builds up for a litre of fuel will include the cost of shipment, transportation, insurance, and others, but if we are importing from Nigeria into Ghana, this will bring down the cost of fuel in our country,” he added.....

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/dangote-refinery-will-cut-ghanas-fuel-imports-and-reduce-pump-price/6b7xl8f

Lamu deep sea port - 3 berths already - is deepest and biggest. And it was not built by Chinese loan - but kenya money.

PROVERBZ:
Out Kenyans brothers please join us to celebrate as we launch the deepest sea port in sub Saharan Africa(the lekki deep sea port)

And also join us to pray that the other one which is taunted to be the largest and deepest port in the whole Africa( the badagry deep seaport.)
Which just got approval for construction to start would also be a success like this.
My Naija brother 3 or 4 years ago we were posting renders of ambitious projects and being laughed at. Today Nigeria is about to become the first black industrialised nation on earth.

All those audacious projects are now being commissioned.

Just40:
I told you that a long time ago.... Ghana has already received that confidence just by the mere news break of talks with IMF.

Ghana debt is within manageable levels and the yearly obligations are also within Ghana ability to pay It will be 2.8 billion next year which is peanuts money for Ghana.

What we need to do most is to solve our toxic politics that seeks to make ruling Govt suffer as punishment for their bad deeds.
IMF has never been needed by Ghana.

Kenya needs the IMF, without them your country will be a venezuela in months. You have a huge 12 billion obligation because of how your debt ballooned. You don't have the money to pay and don't have the confidence of your creditors after you restructured for years and decided to default.

Until you have a DEAL with imf I will be here to watch madness...as you descend into it...cedis free fall continues.. inflation of now must approaching 150 percent

obaaderemi:
Remove 5 Indians in little India you are dead.

We don't have any indians in Kenya.There are in Nigeria running industries including all dangotes ones.We have 5th generation Kenya Asians..a tribe in Kenya.One of them owns you largest steel/aluminium mill.. Towers Aluminum. Kenya-Indians are in 5th generation, speak Swahili, are in parliament and have little connection with India.Now Nigeria has million indian indian from India...they keep moving in thousands to come weld and name it dangotes n their own factories

obaaderemi:
Indeed.

Remove 10 dangotes in Zooland...you got nothing left

Shaytun:
Hotels are closing across Kenya.

Economic Fallout

One hotel shut down an old structure that is now in busy downtown doesn't mean hotel industry is shutting down or the economy.That Hilton should be turned into office blocks.

You don't understand the importance of imf deal.Its not about the money.Imf gives very little money.Its stamp of approval and confidence that deal with imf gives.This because everyone knows imf will straighten the economy because they are coming in to manage things.Their technical input and micromanagent is signal to creditors and everyone that country is on the mend . without it Ghana can't n won't manage..3 billion is small money because Ghana debt has ballooned with interests n all that. Whatever you do nail the imf deal...you need it otherwise you're gone .

Just40:
Ghana only started engagement with IMF which is even backroom engagement just a month ago

Ghana already has 3 billion dollars sitting in the sinking fund.. No one with money in the bank get desperate for a peanut loan.

Ghana just raise 800 million from African development bank and we just raised 2 billion dollars for Ghana cocoa board..

Like I said, we ain't Kenya that is bankrupt... Face your Sri Lanka situation alone.
Comparing yourself to Ghana will only make more Kenyans go hungry.... Ghana was flexing with it bank balance but Kenya couldn't do same because you're a poor bankrupt country that needed to be rushed to the IMF after countless debt restructuring that got your best pal China pissed.


This is Ghana next finance minister for the opposition party talking.

AfriqueDuZuid:
200 000 you say

international school... independent or private schools in Kenya are everywhere.. almost half kids are there

Now see who is laughing now. You've been begging IMF for a year plus. They are saying - Ghana - we dont feel you. Lebanon and Srilanka.

Ghana is desperate for 3 billion - they'd have float eurobond by now ) . Imf say float 10 or 100B centenary bond we see . Eurobond are saying come baby come..50% interest rate...before we talk principal.

Now raising even 100m dollars is hard

Just40:
SA had better finances and didn't even need it .

Kenya on the other hand had no option...

Ghana realized it didn't need debt freezing so we didn't sign on to it and we didn't need IMF as well hence we did sign on to it last year when Kenya was on stretcher being carried there despite the good will Ghana did for your country.

Even south africa went there - IMF due to corona - had opened their warm embrace - no question - come all. It was simple - Kenya - problem - covid - admitted. South Africa - covid-19 - admitted. Nigeria - covid-19 admitted. No questions. Covid-19. Ghana - mmhh - imf we have beef and pride..

You refused. I dont think you have the independence to decide shiet if you cant repay debt. Youre a colony of debt.

Just40:
You run there because you had no option ... No one would loan you money, your export value couldn't be raise fast enough and you were defaulting on your debt obligations.

That was your death bed..

Ghana can decide today that it doesn't need an IMF program and it will still be able to pay it debt as well as keep financing it other obligations. A liquidity issues is not the same as Kenya debt crisis .

Nigeria went to Imf with kenya. They walked themselves in, and were given medication, every three months, they see a doctor, and go home. Ghana refused. They want to go in and come out. IMF are telling them you go in and stay there - in the ICU - until we are sure - or go straight to the morgue.

samorobo:
Same sh1t different smell. That’s all I see here.
Splitting hairs doesn’t make your zoo any better .
It’s only a matter of time until it’s caught up with you.

We walked ourselves to IMF - you're going via ambulance - and they are refusing admission. Big difference. We visit hospital once in a while - quick check on our vitals - the nurse - says go home. Ghana, your lying-in casualty half-dead and they won't admit you - until you pay in dollars serious deposit. They are almost sure you will die soon...for eurobond is increasingly choking any life out of you.

Just40:
the IMF is an expert enough...
They are administering a bitter pill to your country...

By the time they are done, more Kenyans will be multidimensional poor with a huge unemployment issue on your hand.

Among the ignorant

samorobo:
Wealth is never associated with the name Kenya,go ask around.
Famine,drought,aid,poverty, slum, safari,running are the things associated with Kenya. Don’t flatter yourself kid.

Quote one expert.

Just40:


Please don't comment on Ghana politics you simply don't have an idea... NAna cannot run for elections again.

Your country is just a bankrupt man on his death bed being sustained by IMF....
Your country will not be able to buy fuel in 2023 if from all indication, your wage bill will be forced downwards by the IMF.

That means more suffering and poverty for the ordinary kenyan

we support drought victims. I cut my teeth in such programmes. Do the same for annual flooding. They dont deserve our sneers -
One of the most outstanding book I ever read is called HUNGER - by some norwegian.

I would recommend you read it

samorobo:
Say something else pained, and stop getting personal. You know absolutely nothing about me. Face your desperation elsewhere,as I continue to drill you with Kenya’s harsh reality. Your outbursts are a delight to watch - heck I could watch you all day.

Anyways I also want the best for Kenyans and that’s why I am calling the evil of your govt. they’ve relegated 18m Kenyans to hot dying starvation for forty years and here you are worried about a few people displaced by flood. A natural disaster that started about 2months ago or even less. Something must be wrong with your dirty head,look In the mirror oga. I will not give you that opportunity to gloat whilst your houses is caught up in a deeper flame than mine.

You will wish your problem was starving after drought. The problem will end when rains come. Your problems will take min 10yrs...max forever. Ask Zim, Argentina, and other hyperinflation victims.

I rather starve due to drought than go through hyperinflation - it crazy - it long lasting - it debilitating

Just40:
Ghana is not the one with an unprecedented 18 million people starving ..... Ghana's economic growth creates enough buffer for all Ghanaians to benefit so an increase in inflation have little effect. It creates income growth for the largest percentage of the population.


The only Africans crying at the moment are Kenyans who can't find food or have been priced out of the market

Replace kenya with Nigeria.
Subsidies came coz Uhuru was desperate to get his guy elected.
Just like Nana is desperate for re-election
We never had subsidies before of anything.
Ruto has deleted them...except fertilizer,
How can kenya without minerals afford it

Just40:
Kenyans mind a lot because the Kenyan economy did not create a trickle down effect for growth that give a buffer to the ordinary Kenyans to benefit. So the only way they could feel something from your economic growth was through subsides.

You guys became drunk on it and it has caused a lot of pain for the ordinary Kenyan when IMF force the removal of most of them.

Madcow take your meds. Where is kenya here. Ghana has risen to 134 percent percent. Nigeria the big zoo is up there 35 percent. But 135 percent.

SOUTH AFRICA also crying real tears

Ohoo they hate us

And this was 10 days ago.

Now hyperinflation - 200 percent.

Next cameras from CNN and Reuters will descend to witness the economic massacre

Just40:
I know you don't like facts but those are the realities you Kenyans face.... Next year will be more difficult for Kenya.

Pray you don't end up with empty shelves as the IMF force you guys to strip yourself.... Ordinary Kenyans will suffer more.

The Ghanaian govt do not run subsides on anything

Only because Uhuru the drunkard messed up - with Nigeria type fuel subsidy. Kenyans dont mind paying for anything for any prices as long as it available.

This week I welcomed some Zimbabwe guy - to europe - from Nairobi - he swear he never saw people who have money like kenyans - and you cant explain what they do. Kenya has 200,000 kids in international schools - higher than any in Africa including south africa.

Kenyans party monday to monday and Nigerian come & cant only afford one room of 100 dollars for 10 men - they sleep in turn -

Just40:
they always like to talk about things they don't understand

They think we have forgotten how desperately they had to join cues for days just to get fuel to buy as if they were the next venezuela.

Pure madness. Trash

Just40:
Ghana has a whole room for 20 people not just leg room. Ghana is not facing a debt problem because Ghana is highly solvent
What is happening is Ghana bureaucratic problem causing a liquidity problem. Something that can easily be solved by moving money from Ghana stabilization fund into Ghana sinking fund and getting approval to to use the money. Doing this will mean no IMF but govt does not have the numbers in parliament to make those changes.


Kenya is in a serious full blown crisis and that is why you ended up at the IMF far back in 2021. Ghana has not gotten to that problem yet. IMF has caused serious inflation issues for ordinary Kenyans as prices of most thing that used to be subsidized by your govt have had to double in price.
We saw the shortages of basic stuff in your country such that if not for the IMF, you wouldn't have been able to purchase fuel or even grains for your economy.
That is how bad things got