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Azimio causing chaos knowing they have no path to victory; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-jQPznvkrY |
Luos transffered from Kibra to Langata after 2017 - but we got governor and pork. Keep Langata and the Kibra slum. StivoH2022: |
Tom Wolf of Tiffa clearly has no shame. The same with Azimio - backed by gov and everything - now they are causing commotion trying to stop tallying. This one is gone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-jQPznvkrY |
Just40:That makes sense |
Or the luxury of a small country that is wealth and tax haven. The Swiss, Monacos, Luxemborg, Qatars, Dubais, the Singapores, the HongKong live in their own world. These are not folks who check price tag - but brand or quality. Swiss honey or even fish is going to be 3 times more expensive. Anything made in Swiss is expensive. But it also premium. It highest quality. Just40: |
Ruto run against the gov and opposition combined and prevailed. They are in state of shock and panic. Election body has to make sure everything is in order...every T is crossed and every I is dotted. They will eventually go to supreme court. And that is because Ruto has a revolution that will turn their economic machines upside down. And those with criminal stuff will be going to jail. They are scared and they are hopeless. descarado: |
I am in switzerland now; I am not aware of anything that has changed; France; Italy and Germany are dealing with stress; Swiss is an exception - prize are always high anyway - so it's inflation proof. Germany normally has lowest inflation. France and Italy the highest. Generally Swiss live in their own bubble and will buy anything made in Swiss even if it' twice the prize. In short the swiss dont give a damn about inflation - they are inflation proof - because they will buy stuff on normal day that is some serious factor higher across the border - for them it about the country, the swiss brand as highest mark of quality, and their own world. You find the same in Luxemborg, Monaco and such small rich countries. These countries that value premium/brands - more than prize. They dont buy value - they buy brand. Just40: |
Kenya election update; Parliament ; Ruto has it.
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I will do a postmortem but so far I predicted Ruto will win; will have parliament, senate, governors. Your famous opinion pollster are taking a hidding. For example - this was governor prediction - I scored 40 out 47 - that pretty awesome. Last time I scored 39 out 47. Tentatively I scored 85% (A+) that is no joke The Final Governor Race Prediction Party UDA 24 ODM 8 UDM 3 WIPER 3 JUBILEE 2 ANC 2 FORDK 2 UPA 1 INDEPENDENT 2 TOTAL 47 CODE COUNTY PREDICTED WINNER PARTY 1 MOMBASA UDA - deffered 2 KWALE UDA - correct 3 KILIFI ODM - correct 4 TANA RIVER UDA - wrong - odm 5 LAMU ANC - correct 6 TAITA TAVETA JUBILEE - wrong - independent 7 GARISSA ODM - correct 8 WAJIR JUBILEE -? 9 MANDERA UDM - correct 10 MARSABIT UDM - correct? 11 ISIOLO INDEPENDENT - correct 12 MERU UDA - wrong - independent 13 THARAKA-NITHI UDA - correct 14 EMBU UDA - correct 15 KITUI WIPER - correct 16 MACHAKOS WIPER - correct 17 MAKUENI WIPER - correct 18 NYANDARUA UDA - correct 19 NYERI UDA - correct 20 KIRINYAGA UDA - correct 21 MURANG'A UDA - correct 22 KIAMBU UDA - correct 23 TURKANA UDA - wrong - odm 24 WEST POKOT UDA - correct 25 SAMBURU UDA - correct 26 TRANS NZOIA FORDK - wrong DAP 27 UASIN GISHU UDA - correct 28 ELGEYO/MARAKWET UDA - correct 29 NANDI UDA - correct 30 BARINGO UDA - correct 31 LAIKIPIA UDA - correct 32 NAKURU UDA - correct 33 NAROK UDA -? UDA leading - mostly correct 34 KAJIADO ODM - correct 35 KERICHO UDA - correct 36 BOMET UDA - correct 37 KAKAMEGA ANC - deffered 38 VIHIGA ODM - correct 39 BUNGOMA FORDK - correct 40 BUSIA ODM - correct 41 SIAYA UDM - wrong ODM 42 KISUMU ODM - correct 43 HOMA BAY INDEPENDENT - wrong ODM 44 MIGORI ODM - correct 45 KISII ODM - correct 46 NYAMIRA UPA - ? UPA leading - mostly correct 47 NAIROBI CITY UDA - UDA leading - mostly correct Total 47 StivoH2022: |
The polling and voting happened in polling station. The documents are sealed. What can be done is re-tallying. But boxes cannot be unsealed except by court order - and it will be supervised by high court judge. This avoid abuses. Kenya is a low trust society. Ghana is better in that regard. Our tribalism is very serious. Just40: |
There is room to retally the total but not alter primary document. The ballot recounting can only happen under high court order. The ballots are kept for three years Presidential petition is heard and determined in 28 days. Kenya became 1st country to annual a presidential election So there is no problem - if polling station data has issue - and the contest is very tight - normally high court order a recount - and can declare new winner or order repeat election. Just40: |
DENIAL PHASE. You're not making progress. NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Final tally is known 50.5% StivoH2022: |
NOPE. Everyone Knows Ruto won. In the entire world. The form returns were 99% available 24hours after election. In 2013/2017 we had digital transmission of results - our perenial loser - and his supporters - got into a serious shock - because three hours after end of voting - the figures settled - and never changed as they should. They cried server rigging, computer generated, algorithm - why are % not changing - yet polling station were keying in data.Now with these ones - images are send - then everyone slowly calculate. They have the time to go through all stages of griefing - by tomorrow they will be very peaceful ![]() You've seen their shock, anger, depression, bargaining... I say we keep this system...it a week of healing. https://forms.iebc.or.ke/#/ Just40: |
I hope you're seeing the trend - it started at Raila 63%. One more hour - you'll be asking IEBC to stop the count. StivoH2022: |
I am reading that US and UK have told Uhuru to back and go - together with Raila - or sanctions will start to fly. Travel and financial sanctions against him and his family looming if he tries to refuse to hand over to the rightful winner. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and UK Secretary for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) Liz Truss to inform him in separate phone calls on Saturday SOURCE: AGENCIES |
Keep the champagne on the ice. It's done deal. These Azimio guys are going through the 7 stages of griefing. There is no miracle - there have been many independent counts done. Ruto has won it. Kenya has finally defeated it's dynasties - who hijacked our independence - and created parastic elite We are going for BIG RESET. It going to be PURGE. I am praying for Miguna Miguna - the fiery Canadian based lawyer to lead THE PURGE GeneralDae:
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In kenya they cant. The polling station final declaration CANNOT be altered even if you can see a mathematical error. Doing that open room for mischief. It simply NOTED DOWN. That polling station has error of this nature - and used it as it. If a problem is serious - it's excluded from the tally The const tallies and national tallies can be altered if an error is spotted because they are not the primary document. Just40: |
It's very low risk - than giving someone in Nairobi powers to alter large figures. The max votes per polling station cannot exceed 700. The pros and cons were adjudicated until supreme court I think. The court finally declared what had been declared in every polling station is FINAL. If there are issue - you file a petition. The biggest mischief the president appoint 7 commissioner after long process of vetting/interviews - you give them power to alter results in name of correcting errors - they can get us into big problems. Just40:
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Kenya Election update. Post 2007 rigged election - Kenya has made many strides that makes election very hard to rig at any serious scale. We first invited the South Africa Boer Judge Kriegler, some Ghanians and Zambia to - an international commision of inquiry to study what had gone wrong.The famous Kriegler Commision Inquired into all aspects of the 2007 General elections with particular emphasis on the presidential elections. And it came with many recommendations that have been implemented. That dealt with all rigging scenario except one last piece. Most rigging use to happen in Nairobi - back office of the election commission - where figures were altered or corrected. The famous Maina Kia & others high court ruling of 2013 declared that polling station is FINAL. That means IEBC - commissioners at Nairobi - are USELESS. Each polling station has max of 700 votes - mostly under 500. Even if there are errors in polling station declaration - they are FINAL. This makes it incredibly hard to mess with election - because you'd have to alter 46,000 forms in all the places. After counting - the results are pinned on the wall, each party agent get a copy, another copy is sealed in the ballot, scanned one is immediately send to const and HQ in Nairobi, and the original is taken to Const - talled to generate form 34B - and then taken to Nairobi. In Nairobi - each polling station ORIGINAL FORM A is verified - against agent copies & scanned copies - and of course security features. Impossible to rig Kenya presidential election in any scale |
You're wasting time...FORM 34 A - has no "errors" and even if it has - cannot be corrected except in Supreme Court. Form 34Bs - no one has tabulated them - they are not all out. That error was noticed by a hawk eyed Journalist Show me one Form 34A - that has been corrected. They cannot. We know many in Luo Nyanza where Raila got 108% of the total votes. Wuoche: |
Singing national anthem when you're not patriotic enough to call Ruto, concede defeat, congratulate him and promise constructively oppose; Ruto will then move legislation in parliament to create the Leader of Official Opposition with Two Deputy Leaders and shadow cabinet; they will each get a gov office, prado, and staff. They will be occupied by Raila, Martha and Kalonzo - and his shadow cabinet. In return for all those 30 prados/landcruisers,salary, staff, security and office - we expect them to offer issue-based constructive opposition for 5yrs!! to make sure no corruption happen without them screaming - making sure all appointment in parliament are vetted, committee in parliament works. Kenyans will then get VALUE FOR MONEY. We want to avoid a situation like last 5yrs where Gov and Opposition conspire against the people. WE LOST FIVE YEARS because it became RUTO RUTO - entire gov and opposition shouting Ruto is a thief - while doing nothing and engaging in MASSIVE corruption. We have lost 5yrs - we need to recover very fast. Opposition IS NOT END OF THE WORLD. Azimio have about half the counties to run. Wuoche: |
The results are written in these faces Wuoche:
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And I am happy we are. The Nation Media that is giving you hopes - is outdated. An hour ago - official IEBC results look like this Wuoche:
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Calculation that are completed were done on Form 34A - which are irrefutable final forms. (Polling Station by PO) Form 34 A - 46,205 of 46,229 - only 24 are not online. Independent calculation all came down to 50.5% win for Ruto - 48% for Raila. (Const Aggregated by RO) Form 34B - are not yet fully been released-257 of 291 - with about few with issues - so so we about 250 out of 290 As of 11.50 a.m. (13/08/22) IEBC Portal has 253 Form 34Bs. I have tallied 246 of these (7 of them have some issues like missing pages) From the 226, here is the summary! Total Voters-18.7M (registered from the 246 Constituencies) Votes Cast-12.14M Turnout-65% Raila-5,690,933 (46.9%) Ruto-6,366,208 (52.4%) Mwaure-28,025 (0.2%) Wajackoya-52,989 (0.4%) Difference between the first 2 candidates 675,276 votes 44 Constituencies to go and here is the summary by county! Nairobi - 5 Narok - 4 Garissa and Wajir - 3 each Bungoma, Homa Bay, Kajiado, Kilifi, Kisii, Kisumu, Mandera, Meru, Mombasa, Nyamira, Tana River, Vihiga and West Pokot - 2 each Embu, Taita Taveta and Migori - 1 each Wuoche: |
Good. Now we are on the same page. Once Ruto overtake Raila - dont cry hacking or rigging or stop the count. Wuoche: |
Kenya election - Apart from Ruto election which is great news, there is an increase in number of women elected. Last time we had 3 women governors, now 7 have been elected. Seven women elected Governors so far, this is good, dare to dream. H.E Gladys Wanga (Homa Bay) H.E Susan Kihika (Nakuru) H E Cecily Mbarire (Embu) H.E Anne Waiguru ( Kirinyaga) H.E Kawira Mwangaza ( Meru) H.E Fatuma Achani ( Kwale) H E Wavinya Ndeti ( Machakos) Nakuru county certainly has taken to the next level - with total domination by women leaders. Kwale elected a Muslim woman as their governor. And majority of women leaders elected are under Ruto coalition- and Ruto has made commitment to have 50% women led cabinet.
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I have seen more than 10 independent tallies - final tally Ruto has 50.5% (51%) - Raila 48%. Accept and move on. We dont need to argue like folks who never went to school. FACTS ARE STUBBORN. Ruto has met all the requirements - 50% plus one - and 25% in more than half county - today or early tomorrow Chebukati will do needful. Then you have few days to contest the win in Supreme Court. I hope you have evidence because this time Chebukati is on top of things. Wuoche: |
Source of the data. Veracity of such claims. I expect a few difference because some people are colour blind or confused; they put MCA ballot paper on presidential ballot box. You will see about 1% such case that become spoilt and rejected. Now why are you guys complaining - You entire GOV machinery, You entire opposition machinery, You have the media and you have EVERYTHNG - Uhuru appointed 4 commissioner recently. You have billions available from Kenyatta, Moi, Odinga, name all the billionaires, you have everything you need to win. Ruto's hustler nation - we just have GOD the father.And we have Ruto very organized, very hardworking, very effective, very meticulous, very committed, and very passionate team. Hustler revolution (poor man revolt) will be studied for a long time in Africa. Ruto has refused to play ethnic politics - and has destroyed all kenya dynasties. Wuoche: |
The kids were born when Raila was losing and complaining. They will complain about rigging - now you're hearing IEBC has fake data . He is a perenial loser and complainer. In 1997 - even when he got 10% of the vote - he was still crying rigging. His father in 1992 was 4th - with 17% - cried rigging. So far with 75% reporting - now we are using tallies from each const. samorobo:
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Propaganda. Why delete it. Wuoche: |
BBC & Reuters. Gov told Kenyan media to stop the count. Now try ordering BBC or Reuters to stop. The forms are available for everyone. Chebukati is a genious who has deflected all pressure. 200 attempt to hack have been made but system remain solid. Tayser: |
I admire your tenacity. At 70 percent reporting by Reuters - % havent change - 53% versus 46% and 1% for others. BBC the same. Independent tallying the same. We are down to about 70 const remaining Tayser:
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as they should. They cried server rigging, computer generated, algorithm - why are % not changing