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It's no biggie. Kenya is presidential system. How would you hand over winner certificate of governor for example? We do six elections. Returning officer hand over certificate - then later they are legally gazetted as winner. It's just a nice little paper to know you've own - otherwise previously during one party system - you may find the winner becoming the loser.

Just40:
They don't have to show anything since the declaration is already a legal document and must be handed to parliament

Kenya election - Some reports indicate Raila Odinga has made that call, he has conceded for the very first time. This would be a miracle.

The announcement will be done at 3pm kenyan time - that another one and half hour - I am sure the gov forces are beefing security in Nairobi slums and Kisumu - otherwise Ruto is preparing to move to Karen with his wife.

Acceptance is best way to heal. I have also lost with Raila. He is VERY USELESS politician. He cannot win unless he was only competitor.

Shma2022:
Sina uwezo, sina nguvu

There many type of certificate. Every winner in Kenya get a certificate showing they have won. Or how else would they show they have won.

Ruto and his running mate will get handed certificate declaring they are President-Elect.

Raila will have 7 days to file a petition in supreme court - which must be heard and determined in 14-28 days.

If he doesnt Ruto will be sworn in 2nd Tuesday from now.

Just40:
Did he just Graduate from uni, that he will have to be handed a certificate by an EC?

It's done. Ruto preparing to head to Bomas of Kenya to be handed the Certificate as the President-Elect.

Classic prevarication. As long as there are human involved - they will be attempt to rig or game the system.

jl115:
she was caught very swiftly, I never said nobody attempted to rig election here however it is pretty much impossible... Also it is small scale not like in Kenya

So there are no court petition filled alleging rigging?

jl115:
wrong, no rigging takes place here, we have one of the most free and fair elections in the world, not to mention Africa.

Shma, my boy, it's over. Ruto is now driving from Karen to Bomas. The Chief agents just went to sign the final form - 34C - and I didnt see Raila agents.

Chebukati will announce him shortly! After defeating everything! Handshake brothers must be shitting in their pants, same as kina kibichos, Matiangis, Atwolis, Manyoras, Mutahis, anti-Ruto bloggers, and the entire anti-Ruto crew.

After four years of humiliation and 10K spears directed at him, the man of Kamagut can breathe a sigh of relief as he takes the reigns of Presidency from a drunkard fool and a senile old boy.

Of course - the idea being if it's rigged or a tyranny - lot more people will be incensed and will come out with guns and overpower gov.
Trump failed because majority didnt feel - that election had been rigged enough to warrant a response.
That is normally the difference btw a democracy and a dictatorship
In Kenya rigging happen every election - and so does it South Africa - but if it brazen - I expect Citizen to RISE UP and FIGHT.
If number of people incensed as such that they overpower gov (like in my scenario) then gov is overthrows in a revolution
Like happens in many countries..for example in middle east...where gun ownership is high...during spring revolution...citizen shoot and overthrow govs.

jl115:
Yes a Tyrannical Government.... Not one that was elected but you don't like it

Dont just argue for it's sake.
US's 2nd amendment given citizen rights to rebel and fight an illegitimate gov.
"The importance of the second amendment is the ability to rebel against a tyrannical government. It also gives citizens the right to protect themselves, without restrictions from the government. The Second Amendment also allows us to protect ourselves from foreign and domestic attacks, if the government won't."

jl115:
my bru, the 2nd amendment isn't there for people to start a civil wars.....i guarantee that Biden didn't win the 2020 election fairly and yet there is no civil war in the US.

You on the other hand just speculate that if Ruto lost then it must by rigging and thus there must be civil war.

Also SA had democratic elections before 94 as well.... It just didn't include certain people

Lastly of you look at African countries who are the most free and the most democratic then SA leads, only the likes of Mauritius and Botswana compete with SA in that regard

Election Comission released the results within 24hrs - it just didnt release the final tally. Raila folks despite knowing they have lost - are priming their people for huge disappointment by claiming they are winning - using magic - then later they start wailing in shock - as usual blaming rigging and computers.

All independent tallies show Ruto has won, met 50% plus 1 threshold required and 25% of more than half countries(24) counties, and is president-elect.

Very little violence mostly in some slums of Nairobi where Luos are many and in parts of Kisumu. Such violence will fizzle out in hours. They simply dont have the stomach for violence like kalenjin.

We are gearing for final announcement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAf2OpnOb4

obaaderemi:
There's going to be violence. The electoral commission already allowed tension to build up. You are right, whoever loses will scream rigging.

Boss, you actually think Raila still has path to victory, how now?

The winner has been obvious from day one - when forms were uploaded.

Shma2022:
Tension is mounting.

Meanwhile, in Eldoret, Kalenjins are waiting for grand disappointment. I don't know what they will do after Rao has been declared the winner. I hope No violence will happen.

He already won when soft copy results were publicly exposed on 1st day. What we are doing is verifying his win and Raila loss. So far no major discrepancies.

vankelvin:
It seems Ruto is winning this election.

They are verified at polling station level. These 46,000 forms. Even if you have large team...this very intensive work. A day has 84,000 seconds.

Just40:
That verification can be done within a day

Even hard copies verification shouldn't take more than 20 hours.

In a highly suspicious society like Kenya, you wouldn't want to hold on to results beyond 48 hours less you be accused of number paddling

This zero trust society - the more manual the better. The DIGITAL FORMS came in within 24hours. What is happening is just comparing ORIGINAL forms with digital and copies. It's VERIFCATION process.

Kenya election have to be 1) simple 2) verifiable 3) free and 4) fair - we are now dealing with verifiability - meaning checking each form against digital copy sent immediately, copies each agent got, and against original. Then checking maths.

The difference so far btw what was sent the 1st night and now is not even 1,000 votes after 8-10 million. Meaning it's VERY accurate.

Just40:
what happened to fax and party agent verifications as well as EC authentication of their seal, stamp and security codes on the forms?

This general election with six posts - and official declaration can only happen - when all forms have arrived in Nairobi - and this being a close election - everything has to be counter-checked. The difference is about 250K votes or 1.5%. Therefore it's not easy - even US takes time in such election.

vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.

You were trying to flog her as some sex object appeal - an old post menopausal women that can only impress 75yr old men like Raila. You were actually asking folks here to admire her beauty and virality. Your AZIMIO are crazy.

Shma2022:
Congrats on electing youths!

Azimio doesn't care about age or gender; we go for brain & track record! You can be a woman or a youth but ignorant and obtuse of the task given.

So your point holds less water.

Before I forget: passaris is Old and "beautiful" , she's the people's choice. it doesn't matter whether she's 100yrs, you hate her, or you didn't expect her to win. I said the above to say this: swallow the pain(bitterness) in peace, my guy. Accept she won and get rid of these petty sentiments.

That still make it even best model. Civil war should occur if anyone commit coup on the people. That is why American have the right to hold fire-arms. American call it 2nd ammendent. Americans have the right to defend themselves from gov militia or fight it if there is legitimate cause - that is why some Trumpster stormed DC with guns. Our people it's 1st ammendment - you rig us - we kill you.
Why is kenya a model - unlike South Africa - that got democracy in 1994 - kenya has held election since 1963.
Kenya became 1st country in Africa to have sitting president election annualled.
Kenya is functioning democracy - that is envy of many in Africa.

jl115:
this from the same guy that said there will be civil war if Raila wins walking contraindication you are

They are screaming - UHURU DO SOMETHING - Tuju has barricaded Chebukati office. The good thing Chebukati has stopped displaying the running total to manage their stress. And they now have full choir & pastors preaching on the podium.

Definitely the morons will drag us through another month of court petition. They dont know how to lose and that is why this sixth loss. Raila has been trying to become president since 1982 when some of us were born

It's been a tragedy to have this Raila - but definitely this last time we will ever hear of a MOI, ODINGA and KENYATTA.

We are going to drain the swamp - bankrupt them and even exile some of them. By some twist of fate all of them - and their lankeys have lined up - a single shot has brought them down.

Uhuru himself got a call from Bilken the US sec - and was told any monkey games - will see personal sanctions flying. He has to hand over the power to Ruto.

The drunkard was made by Ruto - and Ruto did everything to get him elected 3 times - and his reward was betrayal. His reward was to sink anybody who has much as talked to Ruto - he has bankrupted many people business, send many to jails on trumped charges, has fired people for as much as talking, as cancelled projects in ruto stronghold, and even stopped fertilizer subsidy program - because Kalenjin are main farmers - now there is no maize.

Ruto is very brutal - and I really pity Uhuru - he better run run far away. By christmas he will be history. He is already half way to Seychelles.

NTSA:
I hear Azimio folks are still waiting for the hand of god from Ichaweri

There are many - infact most of UDA are very young, educated and smart.

Our next women Rep's under 30s of age
Bomet,Meru,kirinyaga,Nandi and muranga .

UDA Cynthia Muge, 29 yrs, Women Rep Nandi County,
Linet Chepkorir Toto, 25 yrs, Women Rep Bomet
28-year-old Jane Njeri Maina has been elected as Kirinyaga Woman Representative
30yr old Betty Mana - Muranga county women rep

Meanwhile you're still getting a hard-on from a 57yr old woman. My mother is about 61yrs. She is my mother agemate

Shma2022:
Don't preach morals when your mighty contester was trying to twerk herself to a top seat.

Morals should be out of the picture.

Care to mention one YOUTH? or a woman in 20s elected by your udaku and propaganda team?

Also, how is electing a woman a thing? They worked their @ss to the top seat, it has nothing to do with anything.

We knew the winner within 24hrs. IEBC have 7 days to declare the result. Kenya is model democracy in Africa - and you're living in one party dictatorship where election are rigged without shame. Your opposition leader is in exile in Belgium.

Kazikazi:
Son,why are you crying? You guys have failed big time. After a week,you still count votes? I think our school kids can help you to count,we are good at numbers

Kenya Election was truly epic.

Blue corner -Azimio (Combined Gov, Opposition, Name it)

You had the entire system, you had the entire KDF, you had the entire Police, you had entire system, you had tens of billions of our stolen taxpayer money on your side. You had billions of donor money from Kemsa thieves. You had everything any politician would need to win, and win convincingly.....

Yellow corner - Hustler Nation.

Ruto had nothing... Azimio shut their accounts. Azimio unfairly targeted their sources of money. Azimio arrested their Allies. Azimio blocked them from campaigns by shutting stadia and campaign grounds. Azimio used the media to malign them and paint them as the worst people on earth....

They were left with nothing...except the BRILLIANCE OF WILLIAM RUTO.

Nothing better signifies the epic battle than Azimio using police, goons and everything to stop Ruto rally - Ruto braved guns, tear gas and stones and address this rally - and epic picture of him addressing few supporters is the most apt description of this election. The triump against state, tribalism, violence, against all odds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRa3reYOfo

Kenya election update - 183 out 291 now verified. Look likely tomorrow morning we have new president. Arguably the next Meles Zenawi - sharp as whip - hardworking like a mule - and a natural leader

Meanwhile entire gov and opposition - plus all kenya dynasties, billionaires - are crying in public - Uhuru himself has shipped his stuff to Seychelles. The Kenyatta are scared because most of their ill gotten wealth will be nationalized. The State Capture Commission will start work on day 1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAf2OpnOb4

Meanwhile Ruto chillin - before work proper starts - Ruto normally will be in office by 6 am - and will leave late.

Kenya has finally found a leader it's truly deserve. Ruto in his first run has defeated the entire political patronage - and huge purge is coming - to clean up the economy - and spur it serious growth.

It's as result of 2017 Supreme Court decision to annual the election due to processes.
Now all physical forms need to be verified - and all the I dotted and all the T crossed.
So Raila doesnt run again to invalidate the election due to processes because he couldnt impugne the numbers.

This time round Raila has no grounds to challenge the election - he would just be wasting his time.

IEBC have done pretty much everything to get us free and fair election. Only issue was Mombasa and Kakamega governor election - and few issues in kakamega and Kitui kit not working.

cossano:
There is no rigging, it is just that no one anticipated these kind of rigorous screening of physical forms against the digital versions,plus i don't think that the commission is properly resourced..... trust me, the media and both parties already know their figures, the loser is known, for sure.

You're another nutcase. Ruto won this long time. In the first 140 verified...only discrepancy found in 6 million votes...was Raila was added 600 and Ruto added 600 votes.

Final number wont change. Ruto win it by 50.5% with 7.15M - roundoff.

There are now almost 100 plus tallies by independent institution and individual - all of them - come to same conclusion - either using form 34A or 34B - Ruto has 50.5%

https://elections.thestar.ke/

2022 - Presidential Results (Provisional)
Ruto
William Samoei Ruto
50.36%
7,152,655 votes

Standard 50.6% win for Ruto
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/2022elections/

Our final tally under the circumstances is as follows:
Ruto 50.30%

Just finished my simple Tallying, minus Prisons & Diaspora....
Ruto....50.37%

Candidates votes:
WILLIAM RUTO: 7,122,482 50.53%

cossano:
Out of the 18 constituency yet to upload their form 34Bs, 15 are core Odinga support base... there is no pathway for Rutos victory...

CNN's Larry Madowo - Azimio folks have lost controls of their bowels - they cant believe what RUTO has done to their man.

@LarryMadowo
People in Kisumu keep telling me that they’ve run out of toilet paper.

The agonizing wait for the presidential election results seems to have caused mass diarrhoea �

Nairobi Governor: 37yr old former Nairobi Senator now governor- Johnson Sakaja - despite all attempt by Uhuru and his gov to back a project candidate.

Definitely Sakaja has shown great promise in his "long" career heading big political party in 20s, becoming nominated Mp, senator and one of best senators.

Nariobi with him and Ruto as president will become best city in Africa.

UDA has elected many young women - under 30s - Not that old gold digging socialiate bimbo. I dont know why Nairobeans elected her.

This day Miguna Miguna completely destroyed her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTtWSkSqm4

Shma2022:
Have I really admired her?

The winner is known. Official results - the commision has 7 days. They have to verify all the 46,229 forms- one by one.

theenchanter:
So no election result yet? No winner yet? Na wa o.

Dude she is 60yrs or something like that - Raila's girlfriend - why would you be admiring a post-menopuasl woman.

Shma2022:
Nairobi woman rep.

Esther muthoni passaris.

@saddam. Your things

Kenya Election Update: As soon as Ruto overtook Raila on the official count; Azimio goons have basically stalled and disrupted the process; as police watch "helpless".

Meanwhile Kenya Kwanza - Ruto coalition - have absolute majority of parliament, senate and have majority of governors.

The Raila - our perennial loser - once again has choked despite enormous support from gov, rich political & business elite, and his opposition machinery.

Will there be violence...pretty much depend on the scared demented drunkard Uhuru...he is still hasnt accepted that Ruto has beat him and is coming for him.