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How did Raila perform.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Ruto was UNDERWHELMING. He overprepared, but underperformed. Yvonne Okwara was the BEST. Kikuyus THINK that Ruto is a JOKE when he said Enough is Enough. You cannot BUY a Kikuyu. You can only RENT one. #PresidentialDebate2022

Nobody get found guilty in a civil case.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
You are correct, he was found guilty of grabbing land belonging to someone who was chased away during 2007 post election violence. The old guy died without compensation.

But not appearing on TV by plunging the country into darkness because of a mortal fear of the intelligence of DP Ruto - sound like North Korea
https://twitter.com/Kenyans/status/1551991765011501058

MzeeMwenyewe1:
In SA im sure he would have been barred from running.

Fact or Fiction.

jl115:
the dude grabs land and murders people

They are committing rookie mistakes - and panicking at wrong time - Ruto was at 55 - now he is heading at 60 percent - already that is like rig proof - unless you cancel election.

They arrested Venezuelan logistic guys - idiot found nothing - because those were store keepers.

Now they have kidnapped Indian IT guys and their taxi driver.

Ruto has three parrallel tallying centers...

They are desperate. They are afraid. Ruto has prepared a WIN WITH RIGGING STRATEGY -

NTSA:
The writing is on the wall and they know they're loosing.

Gov were so scared they shut down electricity
Debate started 8 - they shut down electricity 8 minutes - afraid to face africa most promising leader.

Dr. John Njenga Karugia PhD.
@johnnjenga
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Kenyans are too smart for your bullshit KPLC. We know this script. Print it. Fold it. Thrust it where the sun does not shine
@KenyaPower_Care
and your masters. Testing for the 9th of August 2022, correct? You and your Masters mshindwe. Respect Kenyans. ⚖️
#PresidentialDebate2022

Despite overly negative and difficult questions - Ruto aced it. Poor Journalist eventually gave up..

Eng. Mohamed Tache Dida
@Mohamedida
DP Ruto is a Kenyan Obama & a more refined form of Winston Churchill. Brilliant but humble, straight-talking but respectful, highly gifted but very disciplined & above all a hustler yet too presidential! This man is a true making of an African statesman. #PresidentialDebate2022

We were busy celebrating. Ruto nailed it. Bottom up didnt come up because dynasty media thought they would nitpick and cherrypick and try to trip the greatest politician ever in Kenya, They failed. They were so tired and exhausted at end . Ruto is an exceptional politician...

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Where are the Udaku zombies, i here my guy Ruto didnt mention bottom up even once. Earth is hard

My take. Ruto as expected delivered. The media - owned by all the dynasties - tried everything - all the difficult questions - Ruto shined. Raila must be very happy he skipped it.

Ruto is a legend. He is the Meles Zenawi of Kenya. Ruto is someone you can actually sit down and respect.

People say lots of nonsense about Ruto but I have been in constant communication with his brother in California...who insist Ruto is the most no corrupt person you can find..Ruto is hardworking, hates laziness, drugs, keep time like a swiss watch, name it

He has mentored many mps who are now untouchable in their areas...didmus in kimili, kiharu mps, mohammed ali, very many.

Ruto believe in hardwork and integrity. And he lives it daily.

Dr Ruto arrives for the presidential debate - as terrified Raila decides to give it wide berth - afraid to meet one of Africa most promising leader.

This will be last major political event. At least 40 million kenyans expected to watch the presidential debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIrcaoZZH8M

Almost all kenya politician are corrupt. Stop this hypocrisy and double standard. Corruption in kenya is non-issue because almost every rational kenya knows right from MCA to MP to Governor to PORK it's a den of corruption. What people are looking for are people who can deliver inspite and despite of corruption.

You're talking about Ruto land transaction of 100 acres but here is 15,000 acres that Canadian investor had turned around from wasterland in Siaya (His homebase) - Raila demanded so many bribes and eventually grabbed the land - that land is back to a swamp.

The investor has left to Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8C15oXkxAI

Look at what investor had done - growing fishing, fisherlings, lots of rice, soya beans - in a wasteland in SIaya. Now Siaya is back to leading in poverty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7InLKTEs0

As Raila own people suffer - Nigeria have gone with him.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/rumours-truths-and-lies-on-dominion-farm-365666

Some time in 2011, a Nigerian Minister for Agriculture – on the request on former President Olusegun Obasanjo – flew to Kenya and went to Yala swamp to see what American investor Calvin Burgess was doing there. Obasanjo had been to Yala before on the invitation of Raila Odinga, who is a family friend. Soon after, the minister invited Mr Burgess to Lagos in a trip that he would later describe as a “great fanfare of private planes, helicopters, and fancy hotels”.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Uda camp are now saying Raila made a wrong decision boycotting the debate, i want to ask them since when did they start caring I thought the rule is you dont correct your enemy
Ruto is a thief, he stole the land belonging to mzee Muteshi and was found guilty. In 2020, Mzee muteshi died mysteriously like the ICC witnesses without getting his compensation.
I lose my respect to someone who supports Ruto.

"Muteshi hit the limelight after he sued Ruto in 2010, accusing him of illegally taking his land located in Uasin Gishu after he fled the area following the 2007/8 post-election violence that rocked the region.
Consequently, the matter was heard and determined in a record three years and in 2013, Justice Rose Ougo ordered Ruto to vacate the farm and pay Sh5 million compensation to the complainant.

Muteshi had claimed that his workers had been evicted from the farm. In his defence, Ruto told the court that he had legally acquired the farm from a third party, Dorothy Yator, adding that he committed no offence.

However, the judge found him having fraudulently taken over the lush-green farm."

Yes, pretty much, UON we use to say was mother of all kenyan universities.
JKUAT initially cut it niche by working with JICA, and in our time they were good for horticultural courses that was starting to make money & were competitive in job markets, and had started engineering/architecture.
Moi had Medicine, Telecommunication and Law.
The rest of universities were basically offering education.
Kenyatta has really transformed....in our time...it was just for bachelors of education....

NTSA:
When the Architecture program was introduced to JKUAT back in the 90s most Lecturers were from UON( which was the only university at the time offering Architecture )...same to other courses .
UON is an old established university while JKUAT is a little "younger."

Shma before you leave, I see not much has changed, UON still the destination for all top exceptional brains and the course remain as were 20yrs ago.
https://www.uonbi.ac.ke/news/uon-admit-50-top-students-country
The University of Nairobi will admit 50% of the Top KCSE students of 2019; The top students choice of courses is medicine, engineering, pharmacy, computer science, actuarial science, and architecture , among others.

Indeed you're very young - there is hope for you. In our era - there was no mass cheating because there were no telephone except landlines, letters and telegram. In my course there was no B+ admitted. The Computer Science degree at UON- cut off point was aggregate of 46 points out 48. That mean you need to score As in four key subjects (48) and almost A in aggregate divided by 2 if I remember JAMB weighted formulae. There were a few A- (strong) but most folks were pure As(92-96). I recall in our year there 111 As and about 500 A- minus in the entire country - those that didnt fly abroad - generally did Medicine, Pharmacy. Computer Science and I think actuarial science was also new exciting course for most folks.Most of engineering you could get by with 42 point - except Electrical Engineering- and also Architecture was in high demand. Law was 40s but you needed to score an A in English. Medicine cut off was 47, Computer science 46. I have never gotten A- minus in my life except in English and Kiswahili. I dont read that much - because I have an almost photographic long term memory - but I had lot of problem with short term memory -so I'd forget stuff like keys - but I simply never forget things I read - I am a walking memory of many things that interest me. In campus I use to work fulltime from 3rd year and I use to read for only two days before exam - the entire course that I didnt attend - except if teacher was keen on marking register. Dont compare yourself with me. My primary maths score of 99 (KCPE) is yet to be broken in my school now going into 30yrs. Languages were only things that gave me lot of trouble because they are unstructured.

Shma:
So you went ahead and edit your gibberish!
I did matiang'I KCSE in 2016. I scored a strong B+ ( that is like a plain A in your Gumbaro ERA.) I scooped a whooping Aplain in MATHS, PHYSICS & BUSINESS. I joined JKUAT in June 2017 to study a course I will not disclose. I have played CHESS for this country to EAST AFRICA LEVEL! Chess is not a game for the Weak brains ( your IQ should be above average to compete in E. AFRICA) --- that's why my intellectual quotient is so unfathomable by your expired brain cells.

THE HELL!

South Africa racial politics. It doesnt need any rebuttal. It's elephant in the house.

Of course when you live where there is no sun - in the cesspool and armpit of Africa - I can understand.

chrisooblog:
Fallen giant that's still taller than you lilliputians

Nobody cares about your medals won from trekking under the sun for hours.

Not bad for the fallen giant- I see you got two medals.

If my running tribe (Kalenjin) was to listed...it would be 2nd after US - with 8 kenya medals - three in Uganda (including gold) - and probably first gold for Kazakistan - and probably 1st bronze Isreal will ever get - 13 medals.

chrisooblog:
All hail Tobi Amusan 100 meters hurdles World Champ; NIGERIAN, AFRICAN and WORLD RECORD HOLDER! GOAT levels

Dont project you weakness on Kalenjin. Kalenjin - just a section Nandis - fought the mighty British for 15yrs - longer than anyone in East Africa. Unlike most of you - Kalenjin dont consider Kikuyus as masters. Despite their numbers, we have beaten them severally, in the 1990s, Moi made them sing in two elections. In 1950s-1960s - we didnt join Kikuyus - Kalenjin were in KADU - and only joined KANU when Moi was VP. We bid our time and got presidency for 24yrs. When Kikuyus tried to upset the power pact - Kalenjin went on rampage - killing and blundering. After 2007 progrom when Kikuyus had leadership but it couldnt help them - country was a week to civil war- Kikuyu understand for peace to prevail - Kalenjin must never get that angry.

Long story short - Kikuyus knows the only people they need to make peace with in Kenya are Kalenjin. We have best land, we have money, we have warriors, we can literally cause war anytime anyday. We have LEVERAGE. You got nothing. Just loud wailing and cries.

That is why they have refused to follow Uhuru because they are afraid of the consequence of such a power pact unravelling.

Kalenjin backed Raila out of anger and almost immediately regretted - because boys CANNOT WIN POWER - Kalenjin did everything for Raila - provided him intelligence, money, and even went to war - he collapsed in Sagana and came back with development ministries. That is despite Ruto telling him that bare minimum was to get Finance or Security. That day Kalenjin elite realized they had gone to war with little naive boy.

At that point, Kalenjin realized they had made a huge blunder, and we had to back the proxy Uhuru for another 10yrs, Now see people who have backed Raila - it's been 40yrs of crying and wailing. An idiot like him cannot win presidency. Does he even have 10 billions kshs to throw around? Gideon Moi is trillionaire(KSHS). Ruto is mutli-billionaire. You cannot get power in Kenya without billions plus many many others things.

Raila right now is totally dependant on Uhuru - he would otherwise be holding a paybill number asking for fundraising.

I want you to watch how Ruto - a real man - is going to win power - Uhuru has thrown everything - including the kitchen sink for five years - he cannot beat Ruto - because Ruto is smart, has money, and counter-intelligence.

Kalenjin-kikuyu power pact will last because both parties want it to last - if it doesnt - kenya may not last.

Obiano13:
Dont compare Kalenjins to Kikuyus. The only reason you are near power is courtesy of Kikuyus. Kikuyus use you to rule the country. If not for old Kenyatta choosing Moi you will never be close to power, not with your near nothing intellectual prowess as a community. In 2013 when Kikuyus wanted to succeed themselves after Kibaki they chose Ruto your man to do the dirty work. That was prime opportunity for the country to break free of Kikuyuism but you became puppets after years of supporting Odinga, our man. Now Kenyatta doesnt want you, you'll not come near power in your lifetime. Your other hope Gideon Moi is a lackey who bears no semblance of leadership. Dont stupefy yourself with power. Proximity to power deceives people into thinking they bear it. In this country we are all under Kikuyu hegemony and unless people like you stop being used it will never change.

Nope. Kalenjin are electing 20yr old to leadership more than any other community. That mean post-Ruto there is sufficient talent coming in. I would worry about other communities electing disanours. I was with Tolgos @UON - we use to play pool together @Mamlaka hall when Moi was president - he just finished two terms as governor - Murkomen was a year ahead of us. Kericho senator is younger than me. Nandi governor going for his 2nd term was elected senator in his two...now going for his 2nd term. My own mp is my agemate and playmate...now going for 2nd term.

We now have 24yr old as Bomet Women Rep, 29yr old as Nandi Women Rep (she already did 5yrs as MCA), the list is endless.

Wakina Murkomen are just 41, Kiptoyot is probably 35. And they have already carved national niche.

Ruto himself is just 55yrs. Having joined politics as 31yr old like Moi. Ruto has 20-25yrs before he get to Raila current age.

Kikuyus are also starting to elect young leaders...but generally speaking no other tribe in kenya has as many young leaders as kalenjin...Murkomen at 40 is going for his 3rd senate term...kiptoyot before 40..also third.

Shma:
Ruto is moi's project. No other powerful kalenjin comes close to Ruto. That's why I said, the error of Kalenjins in power is over, and dusted In 9th August 2022 when the last Man standing - moi's project will be escorted to Sugoi.

Don't get me wrong. I don't hate kalenjins. I am a tribe-All advocate.

How is that related. China is a dictatorship. And it economy is firing in all cylinders. As long as we are able to do peaceful transition - we are fine.

jl115:
Same fvcktards talking about catching SA can't even have a fair and free election

Ruto was running Jubilee 1.0 so how did it expire in Moi era. Uhuru was always a Kalenjin elite proxy or project because he was known as useless chain smoking drunkard. When he ditched Ruto - Gideon Moi took the driving seat. You cannot win power without numbers, money, tact, and etc. Uhuru is trying to use Raila as proxy hoping he dies after 2 yrs . But Kikuyus have not bought into his scheme. Therefore the battle long ended. Kikuyu-Kalenjin pact will see us through to 2040. After Ruto 10 - Gachagua or Ndidi will do 10.

Shma:
Kalenjin error expired in Moi's regime. Most Kalenjins were brought to power by Moi... And they were too incompetent to perform intellectual duties, that's why the majority were given AP and Traffic police jobs.

Bantus will lead this country for a while( Kikuyu mostly, kamba, luhya, kisii). Maybe to some extend - once in a while, Luos or Kalenjin. But in this election, a Luo is taking it.

The lameduck is gone. He will be jobless in a fortnight. Only Chebukati will annnounce the winner and hand over the certificate. Unless Uhuru kills him btw now and 8th August - Chebukati and four commissioners are firmly in team Ruto. Uhuru has 3. Chebukati is the presidential RO.

Election will be rigged by both sides whenever possible. Rigging probably underway now with recruitment of CRO, ROS and name it. Who then recruit POS who are pliable. Uhuru the drunkard slept - and woke up - to find Ruto owns IEBC. They are now having loose bowel movements as they race against time to beat IEBC.

I am sure both sides are racing to influence the POS to rig for them whenever possible, to bribe agents to look the other way, and name it.Technology - will help eliminate some of the rigging.

Uhuru has been outfoxed and outstmarted. Now his remaining card is to sabotage election - which will lead to civil unrest if not war.

Shma:
vote rigging, involves illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both - stop pretending you don't know. We must allow IEBC to stay independent and do their work. Ruto is too desperate for this seat, hence why he's trying all means to secure it. IEBC is not a deep state - commander in chief is. Uhuru knows all the gangways where elections fraud happens. He will use his power to seal all the hiatus that will result to unfair game.

No vote will be stolen, no war will happen, nothing will happen past 10th August - just celebration of Raila amolo and Martha inauguration.

Ruto has elevated Kenya politics into a semblance of issue-based campaign with a coherent national message and coalition of the poor - Hustler Nation or Revolution.

Anyway I see you're really angling to get tribal.

When it come to Kalenjin. I think you underrate us despite the fact that Kalenjin has been president or vice/deputy president for a combined period of almost 50yrs out of 60yrs Kenya has been independent. Moi did 10yrs as Vice and 24 as deputy. Ruto is just finishing his 10yrs.We are 2nd to Kikuyus when it come to being political force - we have a say in about 11 counties - we will have deputy governor or governor in those 11 counties - kikuyus come 2nd with 9 I think. The rest struggle with 4-5 or 1. We have about 50 Mps - Kikuyus are about 5 more than us. Kalenjin and Kikuyu dominate gov circles - so called systems and deep state. Raila become something - PM - because of Kalenjin.

Luos are down and out...now Kalenjin are a million plus them demographically - because of HIV-AIDS and Odinga messed up politics lead to under-development.

Once in 2009 - Kalenjin and Kikuyu decided to make peace - realpoltik I dont see how you can beat such a twin force. Uhuru has tried to undo the peace/power pact - but majority of Kikuyus - both elite and esp the masses - have refused to board.

So basically prepare for Kikuyu-Kalenjin power pact for quite sometime

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Thank you for admitting that Raila was once useful to this country, i cant say the same for your candidate. Kenyans will never make the same mistake of electing a kalenjin president or deputy, tried and tested.

The reason why UhuRuto won 2013 election is not because they are the most competent, or because they have the best track record or because they are the cleanest NO!! Its because of Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.

As long as Kikuyus vote unanimously, they can make any one the president even murderers and thieves like UhuRuto. This time like 1997 the tyranny of numbers will be broken and Ruto will suffer the consequences.

Kalenjins alone cant make Ruto president because they dont have numbers, i personally have only met less than 10 kales in my life.

How can bag seals be used to rig election? IEBC is the deep state. The rest are desperation. Chebukati is the guy who will announce the winner - and he has only one name - William Ruto.

What is clear - desperate Uhuru deep state - are trying to scare away Smartmatic - technology provider- so the biometric identification doesnt happen. This is Museveni playbook but Kenya is not Uganda.

I think if election goes manual - Ruto has more organizational ability to outrig the drunk Uhuru and his lackey Raila. In fact its for their best interest to have IEBC do a thorough job so their loss can be less embarrasing.

Shma:
In other news, I'm hearing that Ruto wants a 54% win as he did in 2017. He's planning to rig the votes. But this time around, he's tickling the balls of a lion. The deep state won't allow this to happen.

We could crash if only we dont manage our political transition. That I agree. We are limping. Ghana will probably go down before we do.

Once we elect Ruto - in two weeks time - we will avoid IMF kind of mess - by employing unorthodox methods to get out of the last three economic turbulences (COVID-19, Ukraine & Politics). I imagine many countries are similarly limping.

As for Tanzania - I havent checked lately - but did you stop cooking economic data. Magufuli was trying to manufacture growth after realizing running up and down like headless chicken was not transforming TZ but scaring everyone (investors, citizen) away.

Kazikazi:
Stop those stories of hardworking,no one starves while working hard
For now you should try by all means to avert the looming economic hard
crash landing since you are the next srilanka.remember your other friend Mr Ecuador is crash landing as we speak.

His usefulness ended in 2010 with enactment of new constitution.
That is why in 2013 he got beaten by two ICC indicted people - despite being PM with half cabinet and being supported by US/EU.
It was a very shameful drubbing.

We are now on the 2nd republic - and the issues we faces - Raila is least qualified or prepared to deal with.

Governance issues are now secondary - the main issue is the economy, poverty, employment .

Tanzania can do with a Raila. Otherwise it's like ANC of South Africa - useful when they were fighting for majority rule - now useless and incompetent in face of new challenges in RSA.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Raila fought for Multi- partism during when Ruto was in bed with dictator Moi, Moi is also kalenjin like Rvp.

Raila fought for the second liberation of our country while Ruto and Uhuru were hiding behind the balls of Moi.

Raila brought the New constitution to Kenya which is touted as one of progressive ones in the WORLD.

Raila was the Prime Minister when we experienced an economic boom as a country.

You cant compare Raila to your old drug lord Bola Tinubu.

Polemics.
Let agree on some basic facts.
Jubilee 1.0 was a coalition gov btw URP(Ruto) and TNA(50)
Jubilee 1.0 delivered.
UhuRuto defended it's track record and it 2017 increase it's mandate from 51 to 55 percent.
Most people voted Jubilee for 10K rural paved roads (that Ruto made it happen by working on new road standard for low seal volume)
and world fastest electrification (from 2.4M connection Kibaki left to now 8.1M) - again through Ruto effort.
A million tablets were delivered to all public schools including them providing electricity coverage.
Ruto stood tall in 2017 and defended Jubilee 1.0 impressive record.
It's scored almost 90% - only failure was maybe Stadias.

Let move to Jubilee 2.0
Uhuru decided to run things alone - or with help of Raila.
You now do not want us to talk about Jubilee last 5yr record or even Uhuru.
Because it's been an epic failure.
Yet Azimio is coalition btw ODM and Jubilee principally.
How do you want kenya to take you seriously if you cannot defend your last 5yr record?

People know Ruto was the brains and muscle of Jubilee 1.0 and that Uhuru was mostly drunk.
If Uhuru had controlled is inferiority complex - and agreed to allow Ruto to run things - we would be far ahead.

Ruto has said no problem - we will do Big 4 again - lets talk in 3yrs when it will be nailed.

That is why Ruto and his party UDA are now most popular in Kenya.
Uhuru is less popular than weed man Wajackoyah.
Raila is slow punctured on all the four wheels - cant move forward or backward.

In two weeks time - Kenyans will decide!

Do they go for someone who is brilliant, effective, efficient go-getter like Ruto or an old tard who can barely stay awake like Raila.

All we pray is that desperados now trying to frustrate IEBC will realize they cannot win and start running to exile before Ruto gets them.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Big 4 agenda failled even before it kick started because it was hot air. The first term of Jubilee was a reminiscence of moi days, the levels of corruption and state capture were that of a typical Shithole failed state.

1. Jubilee didnt built a single stadium.

2. Jubilee built a jointed Sgr with 1960 diesel trains at inflated cost to Nowhere.

3. Galana kulalu failed miserably, just setting up an irrigation scheme was too much for Ruto. Why?! Because he wanted to import maize at higher price.

4. Our economy was at the verge of recession.

5. We were losing 2B daily which Uhuru said his hands were tied. You already know by who because all the scandals eminated from parastatals headed by kalenjins.


I can go on and on but i dont want to expose too much for the sake of this thread. Your only re- battle will be, "but but they won by 54% in 2017" forgetting the Supreme court ruling.

I expect they will continue to run South Africa. The South Africa blacks will take any suffering before they allow Afrikaan party or coalition to rule over them again. At least with ANC - there is no apartheid like happen in National Party of the before. You need to confront the racial reality. You dont yet have the tribal division like Kenya because the racial divide(prospect of white rule) is a real threat to the majority of blacks they cannot afford the luxury of splitting into tribes.

jl115:
of course the ANC is all over, they are SAs largest party.... What did you think it was going to look like?.... The ANC is also the largest party in Gauteng however it controls not a single metro

Who is Azimio Chairman? Uhuru. How can you not discuss the elephant in the room? The thing is you cannot box debate. If you ask an experienced politician to talk about climate change - he will find a way to talk about other things unrelated to climate change.

Raila is getting hammering - mostly 1) Uhuru - his gov failrues, state capture - and 2) Age.

Raila by some twist of fate decided to go to bed with Uhuru. He cannot run away from him. It most inopportune time to be an incumbent now because global economy is sick. Incumbents are getting kicked because inflation is hammering folks and voters are not in the business of understanding or excusing gov.

He went for the money, system and deep state - and he is harvesting voter anger due to inflation.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
If the presidential debate will not focus on leadership, integrity and corruption theres no point of raila attending. Whats the point of the debate if one side will be talking about Uhuru for the whole 2hrs, On 9th August, they will hate uhuru twice more.

Okay I cant argue with you on the nitty grities but looking at the map - ANC is all over - except in the cape of good hope. Hope springs eternal.

jl115:
well obviously you did not look properly because the ANC only got 46% of the national vote, secondly the EFF didn't grow, they have reached their ceiling and their policies especially those on open borders has kept them from growing, ActionSA on the other hand only contested 6 municipalities... Only 6!! And it already got 2.5% of the national vote, the DA has recently lost white votes not black votes, neither is it a white party, simply looking at SAs demographics will prove that the DA isn't a white party you ignorantly call it, the DA has also done well in recent by elections and is currently controlling 4 of 7 major metros in Joburg, Tshwane,CT and Ekurhuleni.... They might have not grown in support but they have increased the number of metros they are controlling and they are doing very well at running those metros.

My predictions for 2024
ANC: 41%
DA:25%
EFF: 12%
ActionSA :7%
Others: 5%

Unless the EFF go into a coalition with the ANC which is very unlikely we will see a coalition government led by a DA president.

He has been outfoxed - Ruto is not only leading but has IEBC under lock & Key. I dont think Uhuru has folded camp yet - though he is doing the bare minimum and as always promising to go big next week/month/ - so maybe he has.

They are now fighting IEBC. They just spend 8B kshs on maize subsidy. He tried to issue 1M titledeeds but it seem many peasant were not bothered to go collect them. Kibicho and Matiangi are going round organizing chiefs but they dont seem to have the money to finance them - my bro works for prov administration in Kiambu - Kibicho gave 600k for 400 chiefs/ass - 1,600 per person and their assignment was to look for 35 votes each. The money was hardly enough to cover their fare back home.

The problem of course Ruto has huge momentum working for him, Rigathi finished off Martha last week, and we have the presidential debate that they aint sure anymore of attending.

Looking at the cards Uhuru can play now - sabotaging IEBC is pretty risk - could results in a civil war - and I dont think he want to go there. So it likely they will attempt to rig - and if it fails - wait for the results. Depending on how the margin of defeat - looking increasingly overwhelmingly - they will go supreme court or they will scatter.

Uhuru should be busy negotiating a jail free card if he was smart.

kikuyu1:
I refuse to believe it's that serious. Today I just heard from a reliable source Uhunye has been advised by NSIS he's losing. He's TWICE FKed as he's completely antagonised Ruto and MUST yet protect his dad's ill gotten gains without even minimum home ground support.
Meaning? He's yet to come to terms with the fact the cards he's holding are ishyt!
Also even the so called Deep State, who btw couldn't even head off the repeat election have largely sided with Ruto.

Quick look of 2021 local election in South Africa
https://elections.timeslive.co.za/results?type=1091&mapType=results
It appears to me that apart from Eastern and Western Cape where Afrikaans & colored are the majority; ANC pretty much dominate South Africa - and will continue for the forseable future. EFF has better chance that DAF - because it can grow it support - the white party has no prospect amongst the majority black. But hope springs eternal.

jl115:
No! What's confusing is that you think the ANC will dissappear after 2024....the fact is they will still be the largest party in SA, the opposition will still be united against the ANC until at least 2029.....what happens then is anybodies guess, either the ANC will be renewed under a new anti RET leader and will seriously challenge again in 2029 or will die a slow death if a RET leader is elected at the 2022(not likely) or 2027(very likely) national conference...

Imo if the ANC does fade into obscurity the two biggest parties in 2029 will the DA and ActionSA... Both have very economically progressive policies and either can lead SA to great things