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Meanwhile the generate white collar graduates - but there in India - they are sending craftsmen and artisans to do basic stuff. We need to reform our education system to generate blue collar workers. Nigeria is a zoo of course and cannot even have such convesration.

Obakillah:
Not just plumbers it seems Nigerians have embraced Indian domination even on low paying jobs. Nigeria is open for business...

https://whichisbetters.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Nigeria-Jobs-Today-2021-%E2%80%93-For-Refinery-Plant-1024x576.jpg

Been trying to tell Obaboon - that Nigeria education system is due for reforms - now look you're importing plumbers from India?

samorobo:
Yes we are very educated as you said,any problem with that.

Of course. Nigeria electricity access is 50-60 percent - but we know you'd be lucky to get 4 hours of power in the best part of your city. Installed capacity of 12,000MW but we know peak power production is now less than 2,000MW. So we have to go beyond FAKE NIGERIA STATS.

theenchanter:
Wetin make I take the mumu post do? Is that how to counter a point? Rvp

1st thing when I googled Nigeria water access...

Although about 70 per cent of Nigerians are reported to have access to a basic water services, more than half of these water sources are contaminated. And although 73 per cent of the country's population have access to a water source, only nine litres of water on average is available to a Nigerian daily.

For kenya I get this

59% of people in Kenya have access to safe drinking water. 29% of people in Kenya have access to improved sanitation facilities. In 2020, UNICEF certified 1,765 villages as open defecation free. We also provided WASH facilities for over 600 schools in 2020, to help with reopening.

theenchanter:
it's expected of u to purge whatever ur brain gulped.

That's water access rate for d continent, u're still behind Nigeria.

Internet penetration rate, second frame.

Keep living in the delusional atmosphere rvp built for u guys.

Kenya education standards as much as it best in Africa - is at the bottom of developed world. If we were just satisfied - we would be like Nigeria - Kenya is making progress forward by taking PAINFUL reforms including instituting mass failures.
Now pray when will you institute even the most basic reforms in ANYTHING
Like dealing with millions of kids out of school?

You cannot compare Kenya education in almost all aspect to nearly all sub saharan africa countries. Mauritus and Magreb maybe.

obaaderemi:
90% of students failing an exam defeats all attempts at making excuses.
This is for the monkey trying to give a stvpid excuse for mass failure of students in little India:



This Kenyan minister of education is wicked. He burst RIP2008 open.
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/kenyan-students-failed-secondary-exams/4181773.html

Obaboon,
A functional gov doesnt just operate on auto-pilot like NIgeria.
It make deliberate policies and strategies to drive the nation forward
Of course - there were exam leakages, too many kids in universities and all sort of things.
This what changed in 2015 - and this mass failures - is intended to achieve SPECIFIC OBJECTIVIES
The fact remain Kenya education standards are Africa best. When kids are compared on the same exams - Kenya kids excel.
But if we were to just sit on our laurels and be happy - we will become another south africa.
Promising country hobbled by bad education.

If we want to pass kids - we just moderate our exams.

obaaderemi:
Okay, the government moderated kids to fail exams for five years in a row and then turned around to start complaining about children's failure. Five years in a row, you ugly monkey.

And then the products of such a system could not pass a routine English test for nurses You are indeed insane.

Nairobi - World 4th most dynamic city - Under Construction -

Africa Traveller highlights construction in Nairobi Metro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDGeWjhLUe0

Obaboon you come from a zoo. Let me help you with how it works in a functional country

From 2015 - kenya exams were not moderated and exams have been made difficult....

Last year due to COVID - gov has promised to moderate the exam. Exams are moderated or standardized to generate a normal distribution curve...so the decision on how to fail or pass students lies with examiners...they can decide an A is 20 marks if the exam is very hard....because there has to be a normal distribution curve. kenya gov since 2015 deliberated refused to do this...to dissuade too many students going to university

This is just few days ago...
Magoha and team off to UK to oversee exam printing - The ...https://www.standardmedia.co.ke › Education
5 days ago — Additional 78,424 candidates have been registered to sit KCSE, according to KNEC data. Magoha said the March examinations will be moderated to ...


Expect 'easy' KCPE, KCSE exams, George Magoha tells ...https://www.kenya24news.com › kenya › 209771-news
Education Cabinet Secretary George Magoha has assured candidates in ... March that test questions will not be hard and marking will be moderated to factor ...

obaaderemi:
Now I know for a certainty that you are an insane monkey.
I have suspected it since the day you said Kenyan kids are failing because the government wanted it that way, to reduce the number of people going to university.

More filters...yet Nairobi city is huge construction site - everywhere you look - tall buildings (75 percent of all skyscrapper under construction in Africa), world class roads and name it.

That is why Nairobi is world 4th most dynamic city - competing only with Asian cities similarly growing very fast

Once Nairobi is done with construction - what will you tell people?

More filters....

theenchanter:
Nairobi without filter is nothing.... OR

Nairobi, without filter, is nothing....OR

Nairobi without filter, is nothing.

Choose your choice.

You opinion is not worth a bucket of warm spit. Nairobi was voted 12th best city to live in by Expat. Now that is something worthwile. 4th most dynamic city. In the WORLD.

Your useless opinion is just an online rant. Provide evidence like some ranking. Not your opinion. Flap your gums endlessly if you must to deal with your envy of Nairobi

samorobo:
Lol nothing in Nairobi is developed,at best decent,and pls don’t get me started on the rest of this chicken coop they call cities,honestly it’s not worth anybody’s time,Atleast not mine- I know better.

PURE NONSENSE.
US after industralizing in 20th century has always been short of labour.
Importing labour worlwide.
Never exported Labour.
Just a few peace corps type to help Ghana - for one or two years before they go back home.
US economy grew because of it's domestic industry.

Ghana, Nigeria, Philiphines and India - those have been exporting labour.

Ghana began exporting millions of slaves in 15th century.

And it still look worse than Burundi.

Just40:
To Europe since the End of world war 2.
To Asia before the reign of Mao
To Africa, all throughout the independence struggle era.

To South America throughout the 20th century


Learn wide and you'll know a lot about the world ... Screaming and throwing tantrums in not the way to a good educational system...It doesn't speak well of the education you received..


Pick and encyclopedia and you will learn a lot .... You'll also find numerous history books in the process, that will enlighten you

Beyond your paygrade. US exported Labour to Europe? and Africa? Which year was? You should have been failed in any exam - moderated or not. You see the caliber of Ghanains and the quality of their debate - their total lack of critical thinking skills?

You're an indictment of your education system.

Just40:
The US exported labour to the entire Europe and Africa ... As well as Asia and south America ...

Swedes and Norwegians are all over Europe because of how smart and innovative they are.

If you don't know, just ask.....


No educational system take pride in mass failure, if it happens anywhere, they will call for and entire review of the system and teachers getting fired

How did US export labour and to where? This kind of stuff beyond your Ghana brain.

EXAMS CAN BE MODERATED - again beyond your little puny brain.

We can decide how many kids we want to score A - we can make an A - 50 marks.

We have decided we want very few kids qualifying for universities.

We are not a factory for cheap graduates to the rest of the world.

From 2015 - we decided to deliberate make exams very hard and not to moderate the results - mass failure is intended to send them to vocational training.

Just40:
The US, Norway, Finland, Sweden

They've all exported labour all around the world...

Waa look at the nonsense you wrote above .... Your kids ain't smart enough to pass exams on things they've been thought
How will they compete in the world ?

Chinese graduates are all over the world trading one thing or the other.. that is the advantage their country has offered them

In 1963 - small holder farmers produced 10% ; multinational 90 percent of tea.
Now - multinational produce 20%; small holder 80%
KTDA - Kenya tea dev agency - is without doubt one of africa most succesfully smallholder tea farming.
It regularly pays about a billion dollars to farmers.

Appisko:
90% of this farms belongs to white Invaders in kenyan sad reality

Show me one country that has developed from exporting labour - start with philiphines and india and nigeria and ghana.
We fail our kids so they can join vocational training
Not acquire degrees without commensurate formal jobs.
We can make the pass exams with flying colours like we use to do - exams are moderated - you decide how many you want to pass.
You should do the same - and manufacturing will crawl - soon you will be china
Do you see Chinese graduate all over world looking for jobs?

Just40:
yet has quality human resources in abundance than your country will ever have.... So much to the admiration of the world

Meanwhile, as we speak Kenyans just want to escape to Arabia to do menial jobs


All of these are just distractions.....

Talk about why, for 10 plus years now, Kenyan students have been failing massively

Entire country arable - farming methods primitive - Ghana. Ghana is size of Uganda - you can feed 200 million people.
11 percent of country arable - world class farming - Kenya

This my homeland - and we have done very well with tea - not just multinationals - but private farms - they are now close to 100 tea factories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lag34RqblI&t=4s

Just40:
we will never create and over supply because our food buffer stock company is ever ready to buy everything for storage in their massive warehouses spread all across the country.

Almost 1 million tonnes of rice produced last year
Almost 1 million tonnes of cocoa
Tuber products are in abundance


Blood drinkers need to learn

When Ghana stop dreaming of going abroad never to comeback like Nigeria - come and we continue this conversation.

Just40:
Handling corruption will always exile the corrupt...

Rawlings did exceptionally well done any politician in your country hence why his influence goes wide from Cuba to the entire southern America and the majority of Africa.

Mad cow....we started from bottom in 1963 and have now caused a global tea glut....try to do that in one industry and talk to us from your cane rat hovel.

Global glut pushed down tea prices in 2020 – KTDA - The Starhttps://www.the-star.co.ke › business › kenya › 2021-0...
19 Jan 2021 — Oversupply of tea at the Mombasa auction affected prices in the second half of last year, the Kenya Tea Development Agency has said.

Tea price drops for fifth week in a row on global gluthttps://www.businessdailyafrica.com › ... › Commodities
15 Nov 2021 — The price had rallied for two months after the introduction of the minimum price that buyers were supposed to pay for Kenya Tea Development ...

Global glut pushes down tea prices - Capital Businesshttps://www.capitalfm.co.ke › business › 2021/01 › glo...
18 Jan 2021 — NAIROBI, Kenya, Jan 18-The volume of green leaf produced by smallholder tea farmers under Kenya Tea Development Agency (KTDA) management

Just40:
there's more room for consumption... The Europeans you constantly seek to please are ever demanding..

Hence why you grow that which you don't consume


All of this is just noise .... Go and deal with your mass failure in exams, that speaks volumes

What is democratic about Ghana military that exiled elites and even poor people to Nigeria.
Murdering judges, politicians and elites - and the enforcing marxist rule?
Your society has PTSD - and I hear you're harrasing NIgerians now.
You need therapy as a country to treat Rawlings Post Stress Disorder.
What Rawlings and company did is not easy to heal from.
See how mad you've become?

Just40:
When a military rule is more democratic than a civilian rule, then you should know that you have yourself in deep shit...

You don't always have to be a Lunatic...


We never suffered because of military rule to need recovering...
Your country is suffering from a totalitarian monarchy... Hence the mess

Madness 101. Get a grip of yourself. Will you drink all the extra tea? We already have global tea glut from kenya over production. India are starting to protect their industry.

Just40:
and who made it so?

If you grow more tea, tea will be equal to gold...

You can start by giving every Kenyan an acre to grow tea

In any case, you don't need all of that before you can develope, all you need is planning and investment that captures all

Now you quickly detoriate into madness.
How can military rule be compared to civil rule.
Your are yet to recover from what military did to you.
Jerry Rawling literally culled your elite - leaving idiots like you in the society
Many run to Kenya, South Africa, and rest of the world - many never will go back.
Now look at you country - all the golds, oil and name it - country look like it's emerged from a war.
Kenya is long standing democracy - while you're long standing military dictatorship that recently go into flawed democracy.

Just40:
In 2020 you had disputed elections ( in any case Ghana also had disputed elections)?
Your country has always rant below Ghana even when Ghana had military rule..

You don't rise on democratic index when you have bullish institutions like exist in Kenya. Especially the media and court

Gold=Black tea? How that comparable? If you stopped smuggling you'd be earning 15B dollars annually from gold alone. Our tea is just 1.3B dollars.

Just40:
we are not the world lee
Adding producer of gold ... Despite that we have a well developed country

You're the world leading producer of black tea and yet you country is undeveloped..

Only a slowpoke make excuses like because he doesnt dig much minerals, the rest of his country should remain in the stone age.

I see Kenya is ranked lowly because of disputed elections and claim of rigging.
We just have one dude - who participated in 6 hour attempted coup in 1982 - we put in prison for 9yrs - and has subsequently been losing elections for three decades - and crying rigging - related drama including violence, swearing himself in and all shenagians.
Hopefully we will retire him in six months time- this time permanently - now that he is almost 80yrs.
Once we do that - we will rise in the democracy index.
Kenya is one longest democracy - even during Moi dictatorship - it was still one of best in Africa.

Just40:
These are the best democracies on the continent

Those flourishing are the first 8 above... lunatic

Ghana has the oldest democracy on the continent


Ghana has almost 70 tribes, all of different heritage and unrelated and were also fighting each other.... But has one if the strongest democracy ...so theres no excuse for Kenya

You're world leading producer of GOLD - literally named gold coast - yet your country looks like a cane rat underground hovel. Kenya minerals are so tiny - only a slowpoke talks about them.

Just40:
yet Tullow just pumped 500 million dollars into your oil wells.... You've been digging gold for generation..

The money that come from cocoa goes to cocoa farmers as payment for their investment in farming the product

Such tortured arguments can only emanate from a mad man. Of course with Akans at 50 percent - and even other tribes very related - ethnicity is non issue - therefore your democracy out to flourish - and so does dictatorship. Kenya is mish mash of unrelated tribes - all who were ever fighting and quarreling - but our democracy is one of Africa best.

In Africa - Kenya is one oldest democracy - with no coups. Deal with it mad man.

Just40:
Even Russia have elections... It does not make them democratic..

Military generals from here are even more democratic than what you currently have in Kenya...

While Akans are 49% of the population, that doesn't mean it is easy to do politics here as we don't vote base on ethnic lines.

You will actually have to work hard to convince Akans to vote for you.

We dont have oil well or gold pit to get money to be shared.
The money that come from cocoa should be invested in cocoa
Not taken and distributed in remote area.
So that essentially is our logic - you produce - you develop.
You produce nothing - you develop nothing.

Just40:
leaving 60% of your population to the mercy of NGOs is the reason why you will never really develop.

The choice does not have to be subjugation and destitution for the majority to favour the very few

Joke from a country which has been under military dictatorship until 20yrs ago. Nearly 40yrs of Ghana is military generals.
Kenya has only 6 hours of an attempted coup in 1982.
We have held elections every 5yrs without fail since 1963.
Every election since 19963 we send home on average 70 percent of leaders.
Kenya has free and vibrant - local and international media.

And this despite a country of 42 tribes where largest tribe is not even 20 percent.
You can imagine a country where most tribes are 10 percent and less.
The average tribe is actually 2 percent of the population
It's very quarrelsome but we have managed it.

What you have going for you - everyone is almost Akhan (sp) tribe - so it's very easy to do politics - as ethnicity is no biggie.

Kenya main problem remain ethnic politics and corruption - otherwise everything else is on the mend.

Just40:
you have none in the italic

You don't have a democracy but a flawed copy which is totalitarian... And your media ain't free

We thought about that very seriously. Btw 1970s till 2010 - we decided - we cannot waste our meagre resources to develop everywhere. We developed a economic strategy that focussed development on high potential areas (cities, arable rural areas) and where people are really there. The rest we left for UN and NGOS. When we did that - our economy grew very fast - and the videos & pictures are testament.

Of course some areas became remote and marginalized and in 2010 - we decided to fix that - now we have devolved gov - and those areas are emerging from under-development.

You gotta make a choice if you dont have oil and gold

Just40:
so the remaining 60% of your population, who live in those places don't deserve any development?

You're crazy. Nobody expose its warts like Kenya. It's the reason most of you knew Kenya as being Kibera and poverty - and these kind of threads are eye openers for you. Most foreigners come to kenya to work in social enterprise - to work with poor people and poverty.

We have a vibrant democracy - one of Africa longest surviving democracy - a free media - and everything exposed here.

You keep posting post 2015 results - when we decided to make our exams hard - evidence enough that we are ever reforming and changing for the better.

Nigeria the zoo is miles away from kenya - a vibrant democracy - with free media (all global media houses) - vibrant social enterprise/ngos (social capital of the world) - with ability to reform itself.

That is why you guys are struggling against 1) a semi-arid country that is water deficient and 2) barren of minerals

obaaderemi:
The reason is simple. West Africans are more open and honest than East Africans, especially little Indians.

When you visit west Africa, say Nigeria for example, your host is ever ready to show you both the good and the bad. He exposes to you the government's ineptitude and washes the society's linens in the open. Kenyans would rather coverup and smile.They're the true definition of suffering and smiling. Have you not seen that with their attitude on this thread. Plus the fact that about 80% of all their budget goes to Nairobi. Half of all electricity generated go to Nairobi. Yet Nairobi is crap with huge smelly slums.
The foreigners do not get to see Kenya well. If they knew, Kenya's fake data would be revised. How do you, for instance, reconcile Kenya's fake hci and school leavers always failing their final exams?

China incredible construction machinery - timeline of 9 months construction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idB81gXYgjo

Nakuru city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRo3Kci8oFE