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agaugust: after the last upgrade in USA, nigerian air force engineers now fully maintain all our C-130 Hercules domestically at home in nigeria so keep quite and stop the usual empty soweto boasting panarama

weblink source http://kaiserslauternamerican.com/nigerians-receive-first-c-130-after-pdm/

[img]http://www.bre-spot.de/brespotde/diasbremen/xlw/2000-2001/NAF%20917.jpg[/img]

Are you able to tell us when the other 4 C130 arrived in Nigeria?

Simply for those who say Nigeria never uses air charters (or never has). Now kindly close your mouths with regard to this topic.




According to Air Vice Marshal Ibrahim Kure, the Group Managing Director of NAFHC, the 737 would begin operations with the armed forces, police and paramilitary forces but will also be available for charter.

"One of the statutory responsibilities of the NAF is to airlift men and materials into the theatres of operation. Due to high rate of movement, the NAF, in some cases, had to go into lease with other airlines to airlift men and materials for such operations,” Kure said.

"It is believed that with the introduction of the United Nigeria Airlines, which is the name the aircraft would be operating with, the dependence on the other private airlines would reduce," he added.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30227&Itemid=107

NaijaPikinGidi: Are you mad? You said the British helped ... so how does that amount to Nigeria chartering planes?!! In your dreams? We airlifted all our men and hardware and the British gladly came through to marginally help for a much more rapid deployment. Nigeria paid no one any money for airlifts!! However, it is very proper for miliary partners and allies to assist themselves. It represents how extensive our military relationships have gone. Bilateral military pacts are key to successful military efforts. As such France got airlifts from the US to deploy to Mali and nowhere did France pay the US nor charter planes. It is so funny how you callously make baseless comments just to counter clear facts that have been presented with verifiable citations and web sources.

SANDF needs to learn how vibrant militaries operate through working partnerships otherwise you'll keep bleeding cash and men like your de-horned Rhinos. Knowledge is not a right!!

Britain allowed Nigeria to use one of its C130's for troop and equipment movements. The only reason they would do that is if Nigeria requested it. You requested it because you didnt have the capacity to do it alone. That is a fact. Simple as that. You can try and talk around the point all you want, it won't change the truth. You were given help because you couldn't do it alone, end of discussion.

NaijaPikinGidi: 9 C130s and yet a R100 million was spent to airlift 200 to 300 military personal to CAR in 4 months? Simply amazing nonsense. I am torn up in rumbling laughter!!

NaijaPikinGidi: 9 C130s and yet a R100 million was spent to airlift 200 to 300 military personal to CAR in 4 months? Simply amazing nonsense. I am torn up in rumbling laughter!!

Also laugh at how the British helped you with a C130 to move troops and equipment in Mali. That counts as a charter, whether you like it or not. Then when you're done laughing please send us the bill showing how much you paid them. SA has troops in DRC and Sudan. So spreading the work which would have to be done in those countries, plus domestic operations such as training paratroopers.....it is inevitable that we would have to charter at some point. Even the U.S does it from time to time.

Donian007: Thank you Saengine for debunking DictatorZAR's senseless LIES, now you've shown sm level of objectivity. DictatorZAR you should hide your face in shame!

Its not a lie, its just a mistake. We have 8 C130's, but our current resources allow us to have 5 in service.

DictatorZAR: Are you talking about that second hand plane.

Please try and land that thing in a hot zone.


Damn this mumu trying to fool us here, that plane can only be used in national transportation of troops.

By the way South Africa has 8 C130's currently in service, and we do maintenance in SA we do not send planes to Europe to make them fly.

Incorrect. We have 5 in service, but we do maintain them locally.

NaijaPikinGidi: Self delusion again Mr. SAEngine!! How did my one-word sarcastic expression amount to a miillion rands in your leaking pocket? Petty squabbles are not my mainstay. So "congratulations" again my boy!! You just won yourself a 10 cents bursary award your ... wasted time!!

Bring on intelligent issues and I'll give you better time.

Petty squabbles are not my mainstay he says, in a responce which in itself constitutes a petty squabble. Comedy at its best

NaijaPikinGidi: Congratulations!

what a man says when his nosy ass gets involved with things that have nothing to do with him, and ends up embarrassing himself

sheyie2007: Point of correction, NIGERIA has.. And I'm still waiting for a neutral source to the above claims

So now the Counsil for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), the home of South Africa's best scientists and engineers, known world wide for their technological breakthroughs is lying? I gave you a link to their website. Now you want a neutral source. My goodness.....heaven above

NaijaPikinGidi: So what is your argument about!! My point proven, so please take a chill pill.

My man. Like I said earlier, you seem to be in the mood to argue. Just for the sake of arguing. Nowhere have I said that Nigeria does not have researches and engineers. I was only responding to a post (not even your post for that matter) about black South Africans not having any intellectual capacity. If any pills need to be taken, it's by you.

NaijaPikinGidi: Your first profile captioned World's First finger print ... is already patently false. The technology has existed long before this side show. Please provide credible and non-sensational profiles of the nature and quality of inventions.

Johannesburg - South African researchers have developed a new fingerprint classification and recognition technique, the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) said on Wednesday.[b]"The structural fingerprint classifier... is able to correctly classify a fingerprint with only partial information, a world first,"[b] the CSIR said in a statement.
The researchers also introduced novel features to speed up the recognition of fingerprints."The technique is faster as it breaks down the overall database into smaller chunks to improve the performance of the fingerprint recognition system," the CSIR said.[/b]The scientist who has deverloped this technology is Ishmael Msiza, one of the new generation of young men and women within the CSIR Modelling and Digital Science (MDS) unit who are trying to establish themselves as researchers, scientists and engineers.[b/]
http://m.news24.com/news24/SciTech/News/CSIR-fingerprint-technique-a-world-first-20110921

Dr Leke is actually the head of the program, not the original inventor. The original investor, luckily for me is still a black South Africa - Ishmael Msiza. A you still going to deny? Now sit down please, you're making a noise. If you want more details go to the CSIR website and read their publications on the topic.

NaijaPikinGidi: Provide profiles of nature and quality of inventions. No match for the thousands of acclaimed and upcoming (to use your word) Nigerian's breaking scientific records across the world in the hundreds and thousands!!

Yes. Believe it or not Nigeria is supposed to have more scientists and engineers than we do, it's basic numbers. Just like China is supposed to have more scientists and engineers than the U.S. You just don't know how to reply to the fact that black South Africans are making their mark on the world stage, now you reply with that sad attempt to save face.

Henry120: Nigeria quite a good number of airlift options. It get really really tiring repeating these things over and over again.

We currently have 6 C-130's, 5 G222 medium transport and 2 boeing 747-500 planes

Of the C-130's nigeria operates 3 stretch variants, that is C-130-H and 3 normal sized C-130's

* 2 C-130's are currently in mali
* 1 G-222 is also stationed in mali

* one of our C-130's is still undergoing up-grades. So we currently have as at this moment 5-C130's in service.

Nigerian troops were never stranded in sudan.

In sudan NAF operates 1 super puma and 2 MI-17's.

Read and enjoy. I'll wait for you to get back to me claiming the article and comments are lies, all lies

http://beegeagle./2012/06/26/nigerian-peacekeepers-in-darfur-threaten-mutiny-concerned-soldiers-in-darfur-cite-abandonment-demand-to-be-airlifted-back-home-immediately/

sheyie2007: Black south Africans don't know shiit.. I repeat

World 1st finger-print technology - black South African

https://www.csir.co.za/enews/2009_jul/images/mds01.jpg

http://www.csir.co.za/enews/2009_jul/mds_01.html


PATENT for new genetic modification technology - black South Africa

https://www.csir.co.za/enews/2009_feb/images/bio01.jpg

http://www.csir.co.za/enews/2009_feb/bio_01.html


Breakthrough in optics - black South Africa

https://www.csir.co.za/enews/2008_aug/images/nlc04.jpg

http://www.csir.co.za/enews/2008_aug/nlc_03.html

Up and coming laser researcher - black South African

https://www.csir.co.za/researcher_profiles/images/bahtusile.jpg

http://www.csir.co.za/researcher_profiles/Bathusile.html


Breakthrough in TB treatment - black South African

https://www.csir.co.za/enews/2010_mar/images/07.jpg

http://ntww1.csir.co.za/plsql/ptl0002/PTL0002_PGE157_MEDIA_REL?MEDIA_RELEASE_NO=7523273


One of our top engineering deans - black South African

Professor Tshilidzi Marwala

He holds a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering (Magna Cum Laude) from Case Western Reserve University, a Master of Engineering from the University of Pretoria, a Ph.D. in Engineering from the University of Cambridge and completed a Program for Leadership Development at Harvard Business School. He was a post-doctoral research associate at Imperial College (London) and was a visiting fellow at Harvard University, Wolfson College (Cambridge) and a Visiting Scholar at the University of California (Berkeley). His research interests include the application of computational intelligence to engineering, computer science, finance, social science and medicine.

https://www.uj.ac.za/EN/Faculties/engineering/about/Staff/PublishingImages/Prof%20Marwala%20PRO%20PIC.jpg



And the list goes on.....

NaijaPikinGidi

You nicely avoided anserwing any of my questions regarding the state of Nigeria C130's. You don't have to answer, I don't actually care anymore. So Nigerian generals would rather have your troops complain about being left stranded in Sudan, than swallow their pride and charter jets. If that's what you guys do then fine, like I say I don't care. The majority of the equipment we charter is heavy equipment, we don't charter our own troops generally. Helicopters for example. It costs much much more to fly our helicopters to their bases in DRC, than to put them on a charter and re-assembly them that side. Most airforces do that when travelling long distances like we do.

Seleka did not capture any heavy artillery, any heavy weapons, and helicopters and jets etc etc. They have Geko vehicles used by our paratroopers and modified Toyota vehicles, as well as the R4 rifles taken from killed SA troops. That's it. Read how the battle in CAR unfolded here. This is the most detailed and accurate description of the battle you will find anywhere on the net or anywhere else for that matter. Read it, don't read it...i don't care. Believe it, don't believe it...i dont care. The troops on the ground did us proud and thats all that matters. http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841

NaijaPikinGidi: :: Well ... you don't know how Madame Mapisa may have taken the suggestion above.
:: The current scenario clearly signifies the difference between our militaries if there becomes an immediate need for military deployments anywhere in the world. While Nigeria saves and earns cash from our airlift assests SANDF and SA are forced to spend.
:: Abandoned military hardware and vehicles? Where in war do soldiers abandon gears if not in a state of defeat? For the SELEKA fighters it must be case of "finders keepers" on those abandoned mil-assets.

SA left CAR a "long time ago" ... but you lost men and hardware acquired with taxpayers money. Very interesting!!

Are you just in the mood to argue or what? Your points are all over the place. How many of your so called assets are serviceable and flying? How many of your 8 C130's can fly at once? Why were Nigerian troops not able to be airlifted out of Sudan last year, if you have this amazing airlift capability. Why did the U.S have to restore a C130 for you after it was seen rotting on a Nigerian tarmac? Why would you let your so called assets dip to such a level of disrepair?

200 South African soldiers were not going to hold back 3000 rebels forever. So ofcourse vehicle and ammunition will be lost or captured. Why weren't all 200 SA troops slaughtered? They had our base surrounded why didn't they just kill us all? Because we inflicted heavy casualties on them, they knew they would be wiped out if fighting continued. That in itself is a military victory. They came to us to discuss a cease fire, not the other way round. They had captured and retured 1 SA soldier back to us? Why? They could have taken him to the bush and shot him. But the conditions WE set was that he was returned. That again, constitutes a military victory.

So Nigeria has never lost men and equipment bought by taxpayers money? What useless point are you trying to make?

NaijaPikinGidi: Going by the report:

Mapisa Nqakula said that the defence force was uncertain about the amount of ammunition and the number of vehicles left in the CAR by the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) and that these figures would only become clear once an investigation had been completed, the national broadcaster reported.

I'd prefer we answer the salient question raised by Minister Mapisa's report above ... the crux of which I have highlighted in bold.

I suggest it's more cost effective to acquire permanent military airlift solutions than carry on with your current spending on chartered planes that accounts for 63% of your CAR expenditure in just four (4) months. SANDF should have spent on C130s or G222s than on your excess stock of Gripens. "Eish" like you guys will say ... SA must be bleeding cash and men to save face in CAR by all means?

I don't understand, are you proposing yourself to be the new SA defence minister? We know, new heavy lift aircraft are being acquired or are in the process of being acquired. SA troops left CAR a long time ago, so I don't know which cash and men you're talkinh about.

NaijaPikinGidi: =================
FOOD FOR THOUGHT

:: Why would a well endowed SANDF charter aircrafts to transport men and equipment to CAR?
:: How organised is the SANDF that they do not know the number of equipment abandoned or sent to CAR, yet they know exactly how many SELEKA fighters they "managed" to kill?
:: One finds it very difficult to connect the dots on this expensive CAR misadventure of SANDF.

We have already shown you guys a link of a Seleka commander stating he lost over 250 men in his unit alone. Did our troops then suddenly forget to shoot when faced by other units? Whenever we post that link you all go quiet, then bring up Seleka when you think we've forgotten about that post. Our troops killed hundreds of enemy, for the loss of 15.....get over it. And if you want a link from the BBC or CNN you aren't going to get it. This was a short, sharp battle. Not a protracted war. That's why there iznt even any video footage of the fight. There was no media to record it.

And it has already been identified that South Africa lacks a heavy lift capability. Our 5 C130's have a few years left in them. But that problem has been identified by the 2012 defence review.

sheyie2007: The story of some Nigerians selling drugs in your country has clouded your sense of reasoning..fyi: Amongst the best 'black' and 'African' scientist/inventors in the world, there's no single 'black' south African there.. You guys only contributed paedophiles, rapists and murderers to the African continent.. I wish the Boers had nuked y'all , I wouldn't be typing this shiit.. A quick search on John Ogbu, Philip Emeagwali will help

Very brave comment. Opening yourself up to a lot of ridicule, I must say.

thanks for making my point clear, i said F-7 jets were alert but no need to fly until threat appears. my combat tactics was perfect, thats what is called 'scrambling interceptors on red alert', perfect tactics anywhere in the world of air power. clap for me, salute me my boy

your helicopters are too slow speed 309km/hr and need more time to find/target my artillery, once they take off they are seen by my 600km radar, our F-7 jets are too fast climbing 600 feet per second, flying 2,00km/hr, firing many missiles with speed 4,000km/hr, more than able to handle any threat from helicopters, your helicopters get shot down in less than 1 minute, you made mistake, admit it and s.hut up.

i did not change my tactics, i was alert, and i responded to a new challenge i was alert and waiting for. you changed your ship/helicopter ground attack location/distance 3 times. admit it, stop lying, dont you ever talk honestly in south africa ?

If you could tell us how far from the coast your F-7 jets are taking off? In all my posts about Rooivalk and warships, to some it all up, our Rooivalk were between 6-8 km from your coast.


have you ever see war history where 4 helicopters destroyed 500 artillery guns hiding behind city, forest, and metal clutter cover ? would your helicopter use black magic or indian spiritual power to get that k.ill ratio from long distance ?

Did i say it would take 5 minutes to destroy you? As long as you are in range of our infrared scopes, we will find you and destroy you. Especially at night. When men are getting weapons resupply, moving their guns etc.


bring your Gripen jets along to nigerian coast because your valour warship has turned to aircraft carrier by magic. you really talk like a d.ullard, anyway you can ask france for permission to forward base your Gripen jets in Cameroon's airport

That is exactly why I said forward operating base. Which fool thinks I said they would land on our ships.

agaugust:
now back to classroom my small boy and let me teach you how to come back home alive from a war. simple, never attack nigeria never under-estimate nigeria, thats the golden rule for your survival.

i just shocked you by revealing that nigeria has new TRACON 100% radar coverage nationwide with range 600km you did not expect.

nigeria has more than 10 air force base spread along the whole coastline, and nigerian F-7 jets have superb climb rate of 600 feet per second, and will face south african low sea level 200 feet flying helicopters in 5 seconds, no time for south africa's unlucky helicopters to run back at their very slow speed, in war d.eath ccomes in very few seconds.

then how does the same south african Rooivalks fire a 10km maximum range mokopa missile on nigerian land based artillery since your pilots now have a change of mind to fear and run away from 12 nigerian F-7 jets firing dozens of air to air missiles of speed 4,000km/hr against 4 out-numbered 309km/hr speed running away south african Rooivalk helicopters.

you see why i said south africa always loses war because you always over-rate yourself and under-rate your enemy.

now you cancel south african mission impossible helicopter attack on nigerian army un-stoppable artillery forces.

this is the third time you want to change an attack plan you have already executed the first time, in real war you dont ever have a second chance to correct such a disastrous mistake, i already shot down all 4 south african helicopters and the entire force is already R.I.P

you see the whole s.tupidity of a south african naval blockade of nigeria ? you are dealing with a powerful nigeria not togo or congo republic.

sure y.ou have now learnt y.our lessons my d.ull student.

1. No you radar does not shock me at all.
2. What do you mean im changing my plan? In a war do you expect people to not adapt? In YOUR very 1st simulation you didn't even use F-7 jets. You said they were alert. Now you bring them in because you knew our Rooivalk would complety destroy your artillery. So our Rooivalk helicopters have already sent your artillery troops to the grave. We watched the artillery convoy setup positions at night through our scopes, and demolished them. Now you change and bring F-7. Are we now allowed to put Gripen and Hawk jets at a forward operating base, to provide extra air cover?

NaijaPikinGidi

I'll complement Agaugust's simulation by saying ... without pilots ... there is no air power. Nigeria actually will not wait for Gripen planes to be deployed out of 2 Squadron Makhado Air Force Base in Limpopo. The Gripens and their pilots will never be able to take the skies!! All that needs to be done is to have Nigerian Army SF commandos infiltrate the porous Makhado Base on a [color=#990000:
red [/color]mission to recee, secure, capture and take out your Gripen pilots. Of course we are capable!! And without a doubt the war would have been lost by SA before it ever begins. We know all of SA's national key points and we know what to do when the time comes. The Nigerian Armed Forces are supremely advantaged in the current situation where it's strike capacity and capabilities in modern warfare are underestimated by South Africa especially. Save for my sharing this strategy, there would be no way of countering such a surprise move by the NA SFs.

You had said enough before you even spoke. If you want to use special forces to fight, the whole world respects and fears SA Special Forces. There are hundreds of amazing books and web pages about that topic. Go educate yourself. If you miraculously place your SF in SA, we can also miraculously place ours in Nigeria. Taking out communication posts, destroying key military infrastructure.

agaugust: nigerian TRACON 100% coverage radar has range 600km. south african valour ship radar has range 120km. we see you a long time before you see us. why do you want south african helicopter pilots w.ives to become w.idows ? you want to marry them ?

weblink source http://www.nama.gov.ng/load.php?pg=131

And what is your point? How does your radar having a range of 600km change the point I made above? Your radar can have a range of 5000km, because you have already placed our ships at 20km off the coast. On a clear day they might be visible with the naked eye. Point is, unless your F-7 will take off on the beach sand, we can warn our pilots to come closer to our ships once we pick you up at 120km. So Rooivalk will be much much closer to our ships by the time F7 arrives.

agaugust: with all that, immediately south african helicopters take to the air, nigerian jets will scramble. aircraft dont fly at maximum speed to avoid permanent enjine damage, i posted sources and lectured your south african soldiers here last week you just forgot like a d.ullard

lets assume all aircraft fly at maximum speed, nigerian F-7 speed is 2,200km and its PL-9 air to air missiles speed is 4,000km/hr against targeted south african Rooivalk helicopter speed flying at maximum speed 309km/hr

south african helicopter needs to first find the nigerian artillery because they will be in usual camouflague army covers, now again you moved in south african helicopters with anti-tank mokopa missiles 6km from the nigerain coast to hit artillery on land, and valour frigate is running back away from massive nigerian artillery at say 30km away from land off shore into safe ocean, then umkhonto missiles protection is lost, and nigerian F-7 jet air to air missile has range of about 22km and missile speed of 4,000km/hr fired against the slow speed 309km/hr helicopters that are already heavily out-numbered 4 against 12 jet interceptors. your helicopters become R.I.P in only 25 seconds !!!!!

you see why south africa always loses her wars ? you only think of all you can do to the enemy, but you never think of all that the enemy can do back to you.

show me a south african missile (not slow guided bomb we dealt with many pages back, and there is no Gripen jet or Hawk jet on board valour frigate to launch any thing), nothing like that on valour ship or rooivalk helicopter that has range of 120km to hit nigerian land based camouflaged artillery guns, we did not line up nigerian artillery in the stadium football field or trade fair exibition show openly for south africa to see.

show us that imaginary 120km range missile you want to launch in your dreams.

like i told @andrewza, the first day y_ou @saengine go to real war, people will be bring y_ou back home in a sealed b_ody b_ag see the picture below, final result of poor combat thinking.

nigeria has the most modern hi-tech space to air, land, and ocean spy military hardware in all africa

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Reading is a fundamental skill taught in the early stages of a child's development. When I said my "original" post, I meant my original reply to your simulation. On page 312 I think.

Please show me where I said South Africa will use missiles with a range of 120km? I said our frigates have radar with a range of 120km. So when your F-7 jets take off and head towards us, our Rooivalk helicopters would have been given a warning long in advance, and move closer towards the warships. Unless your F-7 are going to take off from the sand on the beach.

Augustine Again: you got a defeat and so you changed your story again ? you said before that the 4 south african attack helicopters will fly and remain close to the valour warship for protection, now is the new 14km distance close ? you go school for village ?

your daily increasing F00LISHNESS has put the slow 250km/hr speed south african helicopter too far away and at the tail end of the valour warships umkhonto missile surface to air cone protection of only 1km cover remaining, and the Rooivalk be shot down very easily by nigerian F-7 jet with infra-red guided air to air missiles of missile speed 4,000km/hr and missile range over 20km !!!!

nigerian F-7 jet will be over 20km away from the limit of the south african umkhonto missile, very safe beyond your wildest imagination !!!

you see why nigerian education in maths, physics, geography etc is far superior to south african education ? your country is highly over-rated in everything including human brains quality. south africans, i am always your master


d.eadly nigerian F-7 jet air to air missile, higher super speed 4,000km/hr and better range over 20km fired at a 250km speed south african helicopter at close blasting range.....now R.I.P. south african navy !

https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5184/pl9ws1.jpg

This was my original post. If you can't read, then that your problem.

"Carrying a maximum load of 16 Mokopa missiles (8 under each wing), our pilots go on the hunt for your artillery at night. To get the maximum range from your artillery, you place them near your coast and not far inland. At 6 km from your coast, we can pick your artillery off one by one. One sortie of 3 Rooivalk will destroy half of your arsenal. At 6km from your coast we are also far enough from any Roland surface to air missiles you might have near by, and also close enough to our frigates in order for them to provide point defence with Umkhonto SAM. Your artillery will be nothing but sitting ducks. Each frigate would carry enough Mokopa missiles to destroy your artillery. "


At what range to you think we will know your F-7 are in the air? Do you think the Rooivalk will still be at 14km from our ships when you fire? We will pick your cardboard box with wings 120km away from us. By the time you get within 20km of us, our Rooivalk will be safely inside the cone, not at the outer edge. So our Rooivalk will be protected. And don't lie, top speed of Rooivalk is 309km/h. And even if one of your rust missiles makes it through, South Africa produces some of the best counter-measure systems in the world. Your rusty missiles will be so terribly confused by our superior counter-measures they will just blow themselves up, or turn around and attack you

South African electronic warfare technology
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/Oryx_flares_2010ep21.jpg

South African electronic warfare technology has, and continues to make its mark in the international military arena, with home-grown self-protection systems being used by numerous defence forces around the world.

A wide range of defence forces – including India, Malaysia, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Oman, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, South Korea, the Netherlands, Brazil, Canada, Egypt, Germany, Peru, and Greece - are using indigenous South African electronic warfare technology.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30704&catid=74&Itemid=30

agaugust: y_our b_rain is equal to that of a 3 year old boy, if all 4 south african helicopters launches mokopa missiles of maximum 10km range against nigerian artillery while staying close to south african navy warships for umkhonto air defence protection, then the warships themselves are now actually only 10 minutes away from nigerian coastal land artillery....

then the warships are in the easy range all the 675 nigerian army artillery bombardment and will be sunk in few minutes then the helicopters have no place to return and land, then they will come and surrender to land on nigerian airports under the escort and captivity of nigerian F-7 jets, then nigeria will post south african captured pilots and helicopters on CNN news website and televise the humiliation by satellite !

can somebody here please tell me how south african education is better than nigeria's ? i really dont see it.



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Do this calculation for us please. A Rooivalk helicopter is 8km off the Nigerian coast, firing missiles with range of 10km on coastal targets. That same helicopter is 14km away from a South African warship protecting it under a 15km Umkhonto suface to air cone. How many kilometers is the South African warship from the Nigerian coast? I'll give you a few days to solve this....I'm in no rush.

You say 10 minutes away. Ten minutes away by what exactly? Swimming?

agaugust: no, he is a d_ummy b_rain, he flew 4 south african helicopters at speed 278km/hr into nigerian airspace to challenge 12 F-7 intreceptor jet aircraft flying at 2,000km/hr in a war simulation....and he flew south african helicopters to final R.I.P

And you ignored the part where I wrote in plain simple English that SA helicopters would stay close enough to our warships to be protected by Umkhonto surface to air missiles (15km arc), while still having the range to fire Mokopa missiles (10km range) on Nigerias coastal targets. Just like how your fingers are ignoring the logical part of your brain before typing nonsense.

did south africa attack nigeria in that simulation ? no, your submarine stayed like a drowned fish under water, your warships ran away far from the coastline for fear of nigerian artillery fire-power, your air force had no jet aircraft to fly into nigeria, your army could not dare to land one single soldier on the shore of nigeria....do you call that an attack ?

People please listen to this fool. Like honestly guys can we please analyse the mental health of this human being on a serious level. I'm not joking. He asked if we call that an attack on a simulation that HE HIMSELF concocted in his head. From man to man, im asking seriously now....do you know that simulation you made never happened in real life? It's something that you imagined in your head and typed down. The insults from country to country must stop and the nationalism must end, so that we can work together to help this man. Maybe we can start a fund to get him professional medical help.

Henry120: Listen fool, that's because we are not an aggressor nation. Our defence doctrine and procurement is specifically tailored for self-defence.

Hahahaha, lmfao, now let's laugh at your stu*pi*dity

So basically if you even dared try do it, you would be vapourised? Oh ok thanks. The main role of every defence force around the world is to protect the citizens of that particular country from an outside threat, so don't try make Nigeria sound special. But an ability must exist to be the aggressor if need be.

And may I please please ask, why are all these simulations based on SA attacking Nigeria. Why not Nigeria attacking SA? I think we all know the answer to that

andrewza: http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/secrecy-surrounds-satellite-images-of-the-car-1.1522258#.UbRGbPmmjTA

South Africa’s space agency has taken satellite images of the Central African Republic (CAR) for the SANDF, but officials

are unwilling to divulge reasons for such a move.

In a written reply to Parliament, Minister of Science and Technology Derek Hanekom last week confirmed the SA National Space Agency (Sansa) supplied images to “various government departments and entities of state, including but not limited to the SANDF”, but said the provision of such images was confidential.

Hanekom was responding to a written question by DA MP Junita Kloppers-Lourens about whether Sansa had supplied satellite images of the CAR to the SANDF, the minister of defence or the president between December 1 and March 31.

Kloppers-Lourens also asked for details of any such images.

South African troops deployed in the CAR were attacked by rebels in March, and 13 were killed.

“In the case of the SANDF, the stakeholder provides Sansa with the co-ordinates of the desired image, and therefore the accurate geographic location of the area of interest could be better responded to by the SANDF,” said Hanekom.

He added that Sansa did not supply images to the minister or the president.

The Star

No use posting this. They will ignore it, because they can't counter it. If the SANDF has satellite imagery of CAR, its 150% possible that they have satellite imagery and information about Nigeria and its military installations if need be.

This is the basic logic of Agagaust that I have noticed. If Nigeria doesn't have something then they are most definitely developing it in secret. If South Africa doesn't publicly have something, there is no way we have it. There is no way we are secretly developing it, its impossible. He thinks every single South African defence program can be found on the internet.

There are very few military pictures more embarrassing than the one posted above. Are those soldiers or fashion models? Look at the two back to back. Not a single person looking towards the bush where deadly fire will come from.