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PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 5:18pm On Oct 25, 2013
Obi1kenobi: Because of those, we should ignore trivialities like personal lifestyles and sexuality and face the real monstrous threats that plague this decadent, immoral society. You hate gay people? Simple avoid and ignore them. Don't make friends with them or join their gatherings and parties. They will always be a small minority of society so it's pretty easy. I'm sure there are a lot of Europeans that find the practice abhorrent but they're civil enough to tolerate it.

Sponsoring legislation criminalizing it is playing to the gallery and detracting from the REAL issues. We have the most inept legislature on the planet awho earn more than the US President for doing absolutely nothing. But I guess criminalizing homosexuality makes them an insightful band of visionary Einsteins. Applause to their Nobel worthy initiative shared by such bastions of free democratic, advanced human civilizations and morality like Somalia, Sudan and Niger. I'm proud of them.
We should ignore "trivilities"?

Really?

I sure hope you never end up running a government or anything in your life.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 5:16pm On Oct 25, 2013
ccollins: I still maintain my stance that you are just exponential abt my personal life and it will be foolish to say things abt someone you do not know because you are amazed by his strict views
You still are not denying it.

You are an homosexual?
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 5:09pm On Oct 25, 2013
ayokatu: @ sagamite knowledge is not far fetch... This is an act passed into law through the pension reform act of 2004 and it operating well in nigeria presently. I don't work with insurance company but I have the full knowledge relating to pension matters.
What has annuity got to do with pension?

Why are you trying to sell an annuity to a retired person?
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 4:22pm On Oct 25, 2013
ballabriggs: Madam Vampire Oduah, CFR, CRIMINAL OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC.

She is a thief and you can see it in the number of contradictory statements she has been issuing. It is all about desperately trying to cover her shameful ways.

Onyeosi, hardened criminal.
It is all part of their mind games.

The fucktards are employing jobless fucktards like taharqa to go online to manage image by denials, lies, distraction, diversion, claiming ethnic victimisation or employing strawmans.

Their boss is called Reno Omokri.

[size=14pt]Official Denial, Appeal To Ethnicity, Diversionary Publications And Media Blackmail: Desperate Measures Employed By Mrs. Oduah To Stave Off BMW Scandal[/size]

When SaharaReporters broke the news of the scandalous purchase of two BMW armoured Cars by the cash-strapped Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA), the Minister of Aviation, Mrs. Stella Oduah and her collaborators went silent, hoping that the two-day Muslim public holiday would blunt the report.

Instead of responding the allegations Mrs. Oduah reportedly called on the Reno Omokri, the social media man at the Presidential Villa to handle scandal.

Reno's job includes using a loose network of paid "anti-bloggers" to attack the credibility of such reports by leaving comments on Facebook, Twitter, Blackberry Messengers and the comments sections of websites.

The “anti-bloggers” went straight to work by claiming that Mrs. Oduah’s signature was not found on the documents SaharaReporters published and as such, that she could not have been involved. As that argument didn't seem to hold water, they quickly started a new line of argument to the effect that she was sufficiently wealthy before becoming a minister and thus could afford the cars.

That line of argument was the first official reaction from the minister's office through the spokesperson of the Federal Airports Authority, Yakubu Datti.

If Mrs. Oduah thought Mr. Datti's intervention would work, it turned out to be a failure as the response outraged the Nigerian public which was reeling from recent accidents in the aviation sector.

By Wednesday, Mrs. Oduah had instructed her media aide, Joe Obi, to own up to the purchase of the cars but to claim that they were made because the minister faced “imminent threats” from certain forces in the aviation sector. While the admission was aimed at creating a sense of siege and thus capitalize on the insecurity in the country, that argument only incensed more people, such that, Presidency sources said, President Goodluck Jonathan began asking questions on what to do to appease Mrs. Oduah’s enemies.

As the condemnation grew, Mrs. Oduah reached out to leaders of Aka-Ikenga, an Igbo social cultural group, to help frame it as an "ethnic issue" in view of the fact that the two main culprits in the transaction are Igbos. She figured a response by Aka-Ikenga would scare off the public and help mobilize her ethnic group in support of the corruption involved in the car purchase. Mr. Omokri's crew also went on to strengthen that argument, attacking newspapers, websites and blogs republishing the stories as being "anti-Igbo."

They claimed the attack on Mrs.Odua was because she upgraded the Enugu Airport to an International Airport
. Even though this argument helped mobilize some unsuspecting Nigerians, it didn't serve her too well as several individuals from her ethnic group condemned the purchases.

Meanwhile, several newspapers had picked up the story. By Thursday, Mrs. Oduah had urged her crew to try another trick: getting some blogs to publish the story that the Lagos State Governor, Babatunde Fashola, had bought three armored cars for N600 million, one of which he gave to his predecessor, Bola Tinubu.

The only lacunae with the strategy was that Mrs. Oduah's supporters could not produce the compelling evidence to prove that Fashola bought the cars, but even if that were to be true, many argued, it could not be used to justify the Minister’s monumental corruption.

By Friday Mrs. Oduah tried another strategy: she invited the media to a press briefing in Abuja. However, lacking the courage to come out of her office to address the media, she sent the Director General of the NCAA, Fola Akinkuotu to take the stage. A befuddled and clearly confused Akinkuotu then addressed the media in the most bizarre manner, making claims that further embarrassed the Minister as to the rationale for purchasing the cars.

An unprepared Akinkuotu spent more time accusing whistleblowers in his agency for leaking the documents. When he was rounding up the press conference, he promised to take reporters to see the vehicles, but quickly disappeared when two reporters volunteered to follow him.

Later in the night, Mr. Akinkuotu did what most Nigeria officials do best: offer money to newspaper editors to help kill the report. The problem was that most of the newspapers had already concluded production and couldn't reverse their publication.

Dateline Sunday: Mrs. Oduah and media aide, Joe Obi, commissioned some writers to pen articles to defend the minister, blaming union leaders and certain voices critical of her for wanting to destroy the aviation sector. Such an article penned by one "Capt. Ore Kingsley", titled "Why Stella Oduah Must Be Punished" admitted that the BMW purchases were egregious but went on a rant to blame Captain Dele Ore and others for the “gang-up” against the minister.

A few minutes later Mr. Obi had circulated another spurious report claiming that Fashola bought N600 million worth of armored cars, claiming that a Ghanaian website, Modernghana, made and published the findings. But the sad part is that the Mrs. Oduah and her aides didn’t understand that Modernghana.com is an aggregation website that collects news from any source without verifying authenticity.

As of the time of publishing this report, Mrs. Oduah had recruited Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) party elders and the Secretary to the Federal Governmen, Pius Anyim, to embark on outreach to critical segments of the Nigerian society and to help appease her opponents, it is unclear if this will work as President Jonathan has already claimed he wants to look into the scandal.
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/official-denial-appeal-ethnicity-diversionary-publications-and-media-blackmail-desperate-m
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 4:08pm On Oct 25, 2013
[quote author=2s£xy]Some fucktards need to be screwed!!!![/quote]grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
PropertiesRe: Jarus CountryHome - A Journal by Sagamite(m): 4:02pm On Oct 25, 2013
Jarus: Building A House - My Experience

I have decided to open this thread to share my experience on my current project in Kwara, perhaps all of us, both home owners and prospective landlords, can learn one or two things and exchange ideas.

Project: A 3-bedroom flat, plus 2 room+parlour BQs. Later, by God's grace, to build mosque in the compound and shops adjoining the fence.
Location & Purpose: Kwara state; to serve as my countryhome, and follow family tradition of building first house in our village.
Size: 2 1/4 plots.
Initial plan: To do a modest 3 bedroom flat with no more than 2.5 -3m! But I find myself, most times on advice of parent and supervisor(an architect), tinkering with the initial plan many times, including BQs, reshaping  the plan and costs flying up!

In subsequent posts, I will share pictures of the different stages, costs and share key lessons I realized.
My Mr President, eti kowo je ni? (You don chop moni?) grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 3:29pm On Oct 25, 2013
Obi1kenobi: One of the things that does irritate me most about the gay debate is the pretentions to moral superiority when some people sermonize about it. It's usually a mentality of "those disgusting, immoral Westerners want to bring their filth here". It's a laughable sentiment cos this country's global reputation is as low as it gets. "Nigeria" is a name that conjures ridicule among your average foreigner - from our neighbours, Ghana, down to the far Asian countries where we peddle drugs. Whether its human trafficking, drug trafficking, terrorism, systemic corruption, religious bigotry and its associated genocide, mob jungle justice, ritual murders, e-mail scams, church scams - I could go on all day - this country is filled with the lowest scu.m and pond life of the human race. I finished my youth service in June, where I was posted to a public senior secondary school in Lagos. During exam invigilations, you would be hard pressed in a class of 60 people to find a single soul that is not looking to cheat - and they're tacitly encouraged by many inept teachers. When I wrote my JAMB in 2006, I could swear that in a hall of over a hundred people, I only saw one young girl sitting quietly in her corner who wasn't misbehaving and trying to cheat, even as invigilators were hawking exam solutions in the hall. And for good measure, there was a "special centre" nearby where everyone is guided through the exam.

Majority of the anti-gay moralists here (I'm not saying "all"wink are likely cheats through school. That's the reality of the Nigerian situation.

This is a very rotten, rotten country to the core despite the paradox of the religious piety of your average Nigerian. The anti-gay crusade doesn't resonate with me in any way cos this country has FAR bigger issues of more relevance to me.
And because of these we should integrate homosexuality?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 3:15pm On Oct 25, 2013
ccollins: You do not know me and cannot conclude on my personal life you cannot even ever know... Fyi,you anti _ gay radicals have a dull memory to know that a person does not need to belong in a particular class before she /he supports such class I.e does a person need to be black or white before he/she speaks against racism
There are enough clues.

Further added to by no denial.

You sure do argue like someone with a personal association with homosexuality.
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 1:43pm On Oct 25, 2013
taharqa: I was just trying to say that you are a Bladdi HYPOCRITE; and seeing what you just tried pulling by ascribing d said sum to 2 cars instead of d 54 so CLEARLY started in yr own article (a comment you didn't even respond to), one wud also say that you are a LIAR as well.... You too may THANK me later..
You are a person!

How is what you said relevant to this stealing?

Your moronic arsse thinks you are talking to another failed product like yourself that you can be saying "what about your own"?

Cretin!
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 11:26am On Oct 25, 2013
Chanchit: Choi...! This one wei Oga Sagamite don follow open thread on Sister Stella, the only advice I have for Pro-Stella supporters is that they should thread easy on Sagamite's thread o, cos he's always ready. That guy is gifted in prolonging wahala.
When the story first broke, the fucktards said she had no say in buying the cars that it was a set-up because she is Igbo and refurbished Enugu Airport to be International.

Those are the fucktards our education system churn out.
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 11:12am On Oct 25, 2013
taharqa: By d way @OP and 'Corruption Crusader', d LASG wud spend bw #170-#180bn to construct d 49km Lekki-Epe Rd, instead of about #30-#40bn. This is FACT; and there are at least 3 threads on d Politics section on this FRAUD and WASTE... Wonda why a Voltron like yrself hv not seen nor commented on it..
You are a person!

Why are you telling me this?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 11:04am On Oct 25, 2013
ccollins: Here is a practical experience of one of my liberal colleague who does not believe in restriction or in enforcing old traditional values on anyone....
I have every little doubt from your argument pattern that you are surely an homosexual or have a loved one that is. undecided

I can tell. undecided
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 10:44am On Oct 25, 2013
yetseyi: pls can sum1 change PFA with just 24months 2 retirement. my mum uses ARM but wit what I ve been reading abt them hmm
I am 100% sure you can.

Make sure you do something about it, DON'T LEAVE IT IN THE HANDS OF GOD!
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 10:41am On Oct 25, 2013
The NCAA also spent N7.5m (£30K) on average on buying vehicles.

What vehicles are they buying for public officials that cost £30K?

I am sure most of the vehicles are not even bought at all or are second hand. Then in another 3 years would sell it to themselves for N300K (£1.3K).
PoliticsRe: NCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op): 10:36am On Oct 25, 2013
blacksta: I tire for this matter grin

Authoritative stealing - It is clearly confirms - these people are trying to outdo themselves when it comes to stealing

The same people will attend church on sunday - Raising hands in the air praising God.
GBAM!
SportsRe: I Don't Understand On What Grounds Ronaldo Fans Think He Is Better Than Messi. by Sagamite(op): 10:35am On Oct 25, 2013
iamteekaygal: Messi is no doubt the best, most people that argue and try to place C. Ronaldo ahead of Messi are just being biased or a madrid or Man united fan.

A lot of people are against Barcenola's dominace, they feel its taking too long. Hence they try to be little Mesi's capability and hype C. Ronaldo, but in the true sense we all know who the best is. The statistics are there to support it.
Yep. No doubt!
PoliticsNCAA Actually Spent N1bn Of Taxpayers Money On Cars, including N255m for 2! by Sagamite(op):
[size=18pt]Oduah approved purchase of N255m bulletproof cars – NCAA[/size]

The Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority on Thursday told the House of Representatives Committee on Aviation that the Ministry of Aviation approved the controversial purchase of the N255m bulletproof cars for Ms Stella Oduah.

The Director of Aerodrome in the NCAA, Mr. Joyce Nkem-Akonam, made this known during the committee’s public sitting in Abuja.

Nkem-Akonam, who handled the transaction as the acting managing director of the NCAA, had made spirited efforts to defend the purchase.

He told the committee members that since “Leased financing, not direct financing, was adopted to procure the vehicles,” the agency breached no law.

When asked if leased financing was not a commitment that the NCAA would still pay for the vehicles, he said it did not mean that it was extra-budgetary spending.

Facing a barrage of questions from the committee members, he later said the NCAA got approval from the Aviation ministry.

BPE faults NCAA, says it wasn’t contacted
But, the Bureau for Public Procurement faulted him when it disputed the claim that the contract for the cars followed due process.

An official of the BPP, who represented the Director-General, Mr. Ayo Aderigbigbe, told the committee that no ministry had powers to approve any expenditure above N100m.

“A ministerial tenders board can approve expenditure of N100m and below, but if it is above N100m, it must go before the Federal Executive Council,” he explained.

The BPP official also surprised the committee members when he disclosed that the agency was never contacted by the NCAA over the car purchase.

He said, “We have nothing to forward to the committee on this matter. We have no information on the purchase of the two vehicles or the contract in question.”

The Director-General of the NCAA, Capt. Fola Akintuotu, had earlier told the committee that he was not in charge of affairs when the transaction took place.

He said he assumed duties on August 14, after the expenditure had been done.

But there was a mild drama when the committee asked him whether the earlier explanation of the minister’s aide (Joe Obi) that the cars were bought because the life of Oduah was in danger was correct.

“I can’t speak for the SA(Special Adviser) to the minister,” he responded.

Again, he was asked whether a minister was entitled to the type of protection the cars were meant to serve.

To this, he said, “I believe that is a hypothetical question and I cannot answer it.”

Minister can’t cut short visit to Israel
Oduah, who had earlier been summoned by the committee to appear before it on Thursday, was represented by the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry, Mr. George Ossi.

He explained that the minister could not attend the sitting because she was already in Israel when a letter inviting her reached the ministry.

According to him, the letter dated October 17, got to the ministry on October 22.

He said, “The minister had already left the country. She transmitted a scanned copy of her reply from Israel.

“She is leading the Nigerian delegation to Israel to sign a Bilateral Air Services Agreement.

“She cannot cut short her visit to Israel because they will most probably sign the BASA on Monday (next week).”

N1bn committed to cars by NCAA
Fresh facts emerged during the committee’s sitting on how the NCAA made a commitment of “over N1bn” to procure vehicles for security and operational purposes this year without appropriation by the National Assembly.

The agency bought 54 vehicles for N643.1m under “Leased Financing” entered into with the First Bank Plc. These included the controversial N255m bulletproof cars.

The total budget approved by the National Assembly for NCAA’s vehicles this year is N240m.

The National Assembly’s figure (N240m) is for 25 vehicles, excluding the two bulletproof cars.

The Aviation committee, which worked on the budget of the agency, had rejected the NCAA’s request to buy the bulletproof cars.

The NCAA later side-tracked the National Assembly to seek the approval of the Ministry of Aviation to purchase the cars.

More revelations indicated that the NCAA applied to buy each of the bulletproof cars at N70m.

However, it later opted to pay N127.5m for each car, totalling N255m for the two.

This brought the “extra-budgetary” expenditure of the NCAA on vehicles this year to N643.1m.

The committee discovered that the N643.1m was a loan taken from the First Bank Plc and excluded interest, charges and other costs built into the terms of the agreement.

A member of the panel, Mr. Mohammed Wudil, said, “What has come to light is that, if you calculate and include all the charges, the NCAA has committed about N1bn of public funds to these vehicles.”


1999 Constitution breached—Panel
The committee, which is headed by Mrs. Nkiruka Onyejeocha, said the “NCAA clearly committed an illegality and breached the 1999 Constitution by spending without appropriation by the National Assembly.”

The committee later ruled that Oduah must appear unfailingly on Tuesday.

“Our ruling is that the minister must be here on Tuesday,” Onyejeocha said. She directed the NCAA to also appear on Tuesday with all its bank statements.

APC, TMG caution FG
The All Progressives Congress and the Transition Monitoring Group have warned against any attempt by spin doctors in the Ministry of Aviation to use politics as a cover-up for the car scandal.

In separate statements in Abuja on Thursday, the APC and the TMG asked the government to get to the root of the matter and penalise those involved in it.

The APC, in a statement by its Interim National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, said it was most unconscionable for anyone to blame the opposition for the widespread outcry against “the monumental corruption and abuse of office engendered by the scandal.”

Mohammed said the opposition, in particular, should not be blamed for the justifiable indignation of most Nigerians to the scandal, as “Yakubu Dati, who goes by the title of ‘coordinating spokesperson for the Aviation Ministry’ tried to do in his winding postulation on the scandal.”

He added, ‘’What Dati and his co-spin doctors tried to do is to play on President Goodluck Jonathan’s insecurity as far as 2015 elections are concerned.

“This is very insulting not only to Nigerians but also to the President himself, and it will not sell. After all, attempts to blame the opposition for the lingering ASUU strike has also failed.

“In any case, what is the business of a public servant, who is supposed to be apolitical, about whether a President is re-elected or not?”

Mohammed said Jonathan had again failed to live up to expectation by allowing clowns to seek to pull the wool over the eyes of Nigerians in the name of defending the indefensible.

He wondered why Jonathan would engage in a diversionary and exculpatory strategy of setting up a panel to investigate the scandal, when there were statutory bodies empowered by law to do so.

Mohammed said, ‘’There is precedent on how to handle such a matter. In case President Jonathan has forgotten, his then boss, President Umaru Yar’Adua(late), sacked Adenike Grange and Gabriel Aduku, Minister of Health and Minister of State for Health respectively, for spending part of the ministry’s unspent budget.

“The Permanent Secretary and other top officials of the ministry were also suspended when the issue broke out. No panel was set up before this action was taken.”

Also, the TMG said it was shocked at the shameful and embarrassing transaction and acquisition of the armoured cars for Oduah.

It said it was even more shocking that at a time like this when Nigerians had been calling on Jonathan to sanction the minister, he found it comfortable to make her a leading member of his entourage to Israel on pilgrimage.

The TMG, in a statement by its Chairman, Ibrahim Zikirullahi, and Publicity Secretary, Eddy Ezurike , said it was “not at all surprised at the rash response by the minister to the purported ‘query’ issued her by the President.”

It added, “Given our governance system, it may well be the person issuing the query is the same person providing answers.”

The TMG urged the anti-corruption agencies in the country to quickly investigate “this financial and executive recklessness” in the aviation sector

In Lagos, the Coalition Against Corrupt Leaders described the probe panel as diversionary.

The Executive Chairman, CACOL, Mr. Debo Adeniran, in a statement on Thursday, alleged that the panel was meant to divert the attention of Nigerians from the issue at stake.

He said, “The panel is just another attempt to sweep the scandal under the carpet. Nigerians now know better that the probe panel is a way to douse the heat that has followed the revelation of Oduah’s shenanigans in the Aviation sector.

“The panel itself is another way of wasting the scarce resources and man-hour that could have been deployed into doing something more meaningful. All these diversionary panels make a mess of President Jonathan’s purported fight against corruption.”


Source:
http://www.punchng.com/news/oduah-approved-purchase-of-n255m-bulletproof-cars-ncaa/
PoliticsRe: US Senator Apologises For 419 Jibe At Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 10:26am On Oct 25, 2013
Moronic journalism!

Saying someone meant no offence is not the same thing as an apology.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:22am On Oct 25, 2013
ccollins: The Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement
reckon the project is not art and
cheapens the special relationship of sex
between loving partners.
Hope u saw the above line, well nothing you say can nullify the acceptance of homosexuality even if you bring in ethnical values or the virtue of morality... Homos have come to stay and are humans who cannot be ripped off from their mother land because of your narrow mind to issues.... Fyi, u know that losing of virginity is a great concern in the heterosexual and have broken uncountless destinies
Lol!

Homos have come to stay in the West, not in Nigeria no matter what your moronic mind thinks after brainwash. They sure wouldn't be practicing it legally in their motherland. I am very happy for Cameron and Obama to give them sexuality asylum.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:06am On Oct 25, 2013
ccollins: Another advantage- Many opposite sex marriages end in divorce when one of the two finally come to terms with his/her true sexuality. Codifying same-sex marriage is an
important step towards gay acceptance that will
lower the number of gay people entering an opposite
sex marriage, which is better for all involved. Same
sex marriage will reduce divorce!
Where did you copy this from about advantages of homosexual marriage?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:00am On Oct 25, 2013
If you want this kind of brazen sicko displays in your society then you will oppose the Naija bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/24/student-clayton-pettet-lose-virginity-gay-sex-art-project_n_4154703.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:59am On Oct 25, 2013
Handsomeemmy: Seriously, there are lot of things that need attention in this country, deparment of public complaint is just there bearing the name and people just receiving salary for doing almost nothing , the judiciary that ought to help the common man is bloody corrupt, labour leaders and civil servant do nothing but sit and expecting monthly allocation so that they will share it among themselves, go to most local govt secretariat and you will hear arguing about football club matches or women and at the end of the month they will receive their monthy salary.

Things are not just right.
So one even EXISTS? shocked

E no go better for fucktards like Jonathan!
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:54am On Oct 25, 2013
ayokatu: Like I have posted earlier. I see this avenue as forum in which we can help our self get what we want. If anyone have a retired person that is not satisfy with the services of any PFA can opt for ANNUITY in an insurance company as it is been stated in the pencom reform act of 2004. Anyone can contact me for details 08036579282
Shut up!

You are an exploitative conman.

Someone should come and by annuity after retirement? What sense does that make in Nigeria?
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:51am On Oct 25, 2013
simplynola: Its not the government that will save cuz they are all part of the system. Labour leaders are the cause of everything, they are all betrayals and thieves. They accepted all these conditions before pushing to the employees. After collecting bribes in huge amount, you will now see them coming out with muscles and worn out veins claiming they are in support of the masses. Even the money deducted from some salaries in the name of union dues are uncalled for and unjustifiable. Only to see them brandishing plate numbers like NLC 1, TUC 1, Comrade 2 etc. Now they want to go on solidarity strike with ASUU, you know how much that will fetch them? but you will think they are really doing it for the sake of Nigerian students. Thieves!
WHAT?? shocked

The country is sick.
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:49am On Oct 25, 2013
emmysenior: St*pid! Woe betide you for supporting disgusting evils.

The PFAs are rogues, they pay you half of ur gratuity and keep the other half, from which they will be paying 1/3% of ur salary as pension for just 15 yrs and later you go through hell to get the other half of ur gratuity back and that will be the end of you receiving any money from the govt through them.

Imagine someone getting 60k as salary and the same person start getting 19k as monthly pension?

That's absurd and you a paid a55 lick supporting it. Such a huge shame.
What are you expecting to be collecting? grin

N60K for doing no work? grin grin grin grin grin
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:39am On Oct 25, 2013
logica: Interestingly, these same f00ls will sit in their offices and talk about the corrupt government all day long.
The people are as bad and are as wicked as their leaders.
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:38am On Oct 25, 2013
Omexonomy: Then go and reside there. You talk as if they did not went through all this nonesense.
AHHHHHH, I didn't "went" through o.

Olorun maje (God forbid) make I "went" through "nonesense". grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 8:34am On Oct 25, 2013
eluquenson: Based on my knowledge, pension managers are good & pay beneficiaries as at when due for retirement, my mum was a federal ministry worker, she retired last year & she was paid this year.
Subsequently, she receives 35% of her (then)take home on monthly basis now...NLPC PFA grin
The issue about the demise of a beneficiary's next of kin having difficulties getting the entitlement is not limited to the pension managers alone, its the rudiment of our financial sector, even in the banks it happen, a letter of administration is very key.
In a sane country, your mum would have been receiving her pension the very next month after retirement.

It is not rocket science for a firm to figure out when a pension policy holder is about to retire and start doing the processual work to ensure they get their entitlement asap. All they need to do especially for a federal worker is to look at the age and date of starting service on their pension application form.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m):
Obi1kenobi: In countries where it's integrated and tolerated, has it made their societies any worse? So are Switzerland or Norway or Sweden or Finland or Belgium or Germany for example any worse or any more decadent for public gay tolerance? Do you expect that pro-gay legislation, if passed, would suddenly make them have sexxx publicly in lewd shows in Nigeria?
No 1, I have not lived in Scandinavia.

No 2, I am sure Scandinavians have a different temperament to the UK.

No 3, in the UK where I live, and where it is tolerated, it has become a worse society for me.

No 4, I have enough brain to analyse things based on a long term perspective. And, yes, the probability they would start parading like sickos in public is very high.
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m): 11:02pm On Oct 24, 2013
kenny1911: the OP is absolutely correct. I'm a witness to this thieves called Pension Fund Administrators (PFAs). I lost my dad four years ago and incidentally I was d next of kin. I gave up claiming his meager contributed pension after working with a company for three year because of the processes and documents to produce before i would be able to claim the fund. from information I was going to spend aver a 100k for letter of administration, 25% lawyer fee, court affidavits, birth and death cerficates, and so many I can't remember any longer for just to claim over 150k. I just told my siblings to forget about the money because I don't have the luxury of time to pursue the claim and get less than 50k after two years. the Pfa I am talking about here is ARM pensions
N100K (£400) for a letter? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Nigeria: The shithole country that does all it can to frustrate its citizens as much as it can. undecided

https://www.nairaland.com/1410261/tear-burn-nigerian-passport-once/4#17647364
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:53pm On Oct 24, 2013
Obi1kenobi: The thing is, I just don't get why it bothers people so much. If you're secure in your shell as someone who is living right, why do you have to project your lifestyle on others. I'm not gay and the closest I've come to enjoying such is teenage por.n consumption watching lesbos. But I don't see why gay people should bother me in the slightest.

I've had an encounter with someone I knew intimately. He was a kinsman introduced by a cousin. I was a 17-year-old first year student at UNN and I wasn't ready to move into the empty hostels (most students hadn't resumed for the semester). He offered I could stay with him for the night. I remember it was a cold harmattan night in December. At first, I had wanted to sleep on his thick, soft rug but he offered we could share his fairly small mattress. Long story short, I woke to see him fidgeting around nervously in the middle of the night as I caught him touching me inappropriately (he claimed he saw some big spider on me). Strangely, he repeated it again and I simply moved to the rug and slept off. The next morning was very awkward and I just packed up and moved to the empty hostels. He avoided me a lot after that on campus - even when I tried talking to him.

I felt no real anger at the whole experience. Just sympathy at someone who obviously had deeply etched issues that he knows he can't talk about with his friends or family. The whole gay issue isn't as simplistic as made out. For many, it's just a choice and lifestyle. For others, it's a genuine hormonal disposition, where their body chemistry dictates what they feel and they can't force themselves to feel different. You can't purport to understand it if you've never felt it. Some are even transgenders with both male and female sex organs and a skewed hormonal balance. What do you suggest their sexuality should be?

I couldn't care less if everyone on my street were gay (maybe it would inhibit Nigeria's overpopulation) if it meant I'd get uninterrupted power supply and my roads are tarred and clean and the crime rate and insecurity is down, and inflation is checked and unemployment is tackled and the systemic rot and rabid corruption pervading every sector of the country is eradicated. Why on earth should 2 men humping each other or 2 women eating each other out have any relevance to me?
I don't give a shyt if people are homosexuals.

I give a shyt if they aim to integrate it into my society.

Let them keep it private behind closed doors and we are cool.
InvestmentRe: How Pension Managers Are Cheating Nigerians by Sagamite(m):
Azwealth: HOW PENSION MANAGERS ARE CHEATING NIGERIANS

Nigerians need to wake from their slumber. This is necessary in respect to the issue of pension managers who collect forms on behalf of workers with the promise of a better retirement.

These pension funds are usually deducted from the workers salary but usually hard to collect when it is needed or at the retirement age. These pension managers request for many documents and lay down difficult processes before releasing the money to the owners.

It is usually even worse when the worker is dead and his next of kin wants to collect the money. He has to go through tedious processes and peradventure he scales through, there is still one obstacle to stop him-"THE ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENT". This is usually issued by the court of law and may take a year to get or even more.

What's even worse? The so-called lawyers will demand for 25% of the money to be collected and some other court officials will request for bribe to process the document faster. Before you know it, you have spent more than you are expecting.

Take for example, a colleague of mine who has #245000 with one of these pension managers died recently. As expected, his next of kin decided to claim his entitlement but was faced with series of obstacles which stopped him.

The most painful aspect is that when this funds are deducted, there are usually no clauses but when it's time to get your money, these clauses are their to stop you. The government should please intervene in this matter because this is a means used by the rich to cheat the poor masses.

This is a wake-up call to all workers to ensure that their years of labour do not end in vain.
That is what you get when you have fucktards running the country. It can't happen in Great Britain.

https://www.nairaland.com/1410261/tear-burn-nigerian-passport-once/11#17678247

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