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[quote author=Mynd_44]If/when I marry, it will be because I love that woman and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. It will be because I could not near to go a day without seeing her face, can't eat without hearing her voice and not be able to sleep without her in the same bed not because of kids.

If I wanted kids, I could as well stay unmarried and knock uo the first girl I see.

Cheers[/quote]Mynd, you are on your own on that fairytale description.

If I marry, I would love my wife, but definitely not to the disneyland/Mills & Boons unrealistic level you described especially when I know what women are made of.

I can't even see myself as emotional as that especially when it comes to sacrificing eating my food until I hear her voice.

To hell with her voice, I will chop my pounded yam and efo elegusi with relish.

tpia1: your actions are what determine your future.

Jesus worked with any kind of personality.

Have you checked the OP's stated attributes of being unloveable?

"people that have hurt them".

So it is the unloveable's actions that determine how loveable they are, so the OP is just copying Jesus' love.

carefreewannabe: Different things, e.g. your definition of a nice guy. A nice guy is not the same as a jerk.
I don't expect a nice guy to say I love you when I slap him. He would be s.tupid to do this.
Also, the fact that YOU believe that MOST women need the same kind of treatement. I can't believe it's coming from you.
Sometimes, you say things that make me feel like "wow", this guy is special and at other times I want to scream and shout and ask you: Why have you stopped using your brain and where is the potential I saw in you?

I know, you don't give a f... but this is how I feel about your "virtual personality."

No 1, you have to catch up and get my sense of humour so you know when I am trying to be funny.

No 2, if I need to make a description (especially of people) I will always use a(n) average/norm/commonality/typical/etc as I have other things to do than describe for each individual in a group set of millions or billions.

https://www.nairaland.com/1093028/what-marriage-taught/1#12829684

So anytime you have this "disapointment" feelings, just try and regulate it and give me benefit of doubt because, trust me, you can never find fault in my fine, impeccable brain.

carefreewannabe: Saga, honestly, don't tell me everything is either black OR white. If you consider yourself intellectual then you know that there are different shades of grey as well and even other colours.

If you EVER want to have a mature relationship with a beautiful, intelligent, well educated and SANE woman, you need to reconsider your views. If you don't, well that's your business.

A relationship between two adults is not about playing games (unless it's in the bedroom ). And it's not about playing roles.

Anyway, I know you will not try to understand. Have a nice evening. I have to leave soon.

Why you dey lecture me?

Wetin I say that warranted the leshure?

[quote author=*Kails*]SOOOOO true!!
I don't know what it is about some men and power. Give them an inch they will take TWO MILES.

You know its funny, I defended good guys in the "ladies would you date a nice guy" thread but truth be told many of them aspire to be the azzholes they claim are "stealing the ladies". One guy I grew up with was ONLY given a manager position at his job. You should see how this once sweet and soft spoken man turned into "Hulk", beating his chest and exacting revenge on the chicks who never paid him any attention. He started shortening their hours and giving them difficult tasks I couldn't believe it and what's hilarious is once he was able to finance his sports car, started getting tatted (tattoos) and hosting parties at his crib (apartment)...GIRLS STARTED TO GO AFTER HIM! I kid you not!!

offtopic: thank God for the back button oh! lol[/quote]When he was a good guy, the girls sexually frustrated him while dishing out the goods to bad guys like a UN charity Apache helicopter on a food drop mission in Somalia.

So the guy did what he had to do to end his famine, and he got the results na.

carefreewannabe: Definitely not the first one being 70 % of all times selfish in bed Your competition is too big there.
And who told you women say "I love you" and wait for the guy to return the compliment? If it was me, you would wait a lifetime to hear those words. Actions speak louder than words
Damn Saga, you're becoming a big disappointment

Me? I say I love you every morning, even when the girl slaps me.

When I finally have sex, I will be 100% steady and say "thank you, baby for you giving me the privilege to sleep with you" after every session. I would show I am grateful getting some.

I am a good guy o, not a bad guy.

carefreewannabe: Now tell me, what is the woman supposed to do when she is around 45, 50 and her husband is not able to satisfy her anymore and therefore to fulfill his marital duty?

She is a woman, I don't need to even suggest what she should do. She will most likely always act in her best interest.

As long as she is making her choices and no one is forcing her, that is her palava

carefreewannabe: Why should women agree to the risk of becoming a young widow?

Because they have judged some other reward far outweighs the scale of the risk.

carefreewannabe: Do men really think that women don't like sexy male bodies? Do they really think that money is everything that counts for a woman?

Ahhh, one of my favourite women's defensive myth to debunk.

Yes women like male sexy bodies but once they have passed and are becoming distant from the teenage years that is definitely not a priority or primary factor for most women. Otherwise, guys like Seal, Sean Penn, Kanye West, Jay Z, Lewis Hamilton, Claude Makelele, Russell Simmonds etc would not be dating some of the most desirable women on Earth.

On the other hand, beauty/sexy body is and always remains a primary factor and priority for most men well into late ages.

Let me go back to my EFP theory. Women are into

1) Emotional (e.g. companionship, love, conversation, sense of humour, loyalty, connection, charisma etc)

2) Financial (e.g. Wealth, brains, academics, power, influence, wit, fame etc)

3) Physical security (e.g. height, six pack, athleticism, bedmatics, strength etc)

The power of each of the EFP securities is really dependent on the environment.

- If you are living in a third world country with no social security safety net, high levels of poverty and women are not equal, women would put financial security as priority.

- If you live in a Western country where women are equal and can get jobs and don't need to depend on men, emotional security would be premier.

- If you live in a society with high crime and violence rate like a semi-war zone with war lords then physical security would be the primary attractive feature.

Now lets take it academic where we factor in supply and demand.

In economics, there is a conditional theory they use to judge how market players' behaviour will impact supply and demand if the optimal conditions are in place. It is a fictitious but very useful condition called "perfect competition".

I will not bore you with the details but if you want to read more and understand it, here is an introduction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition

Now as a Professor in Womantology let me try and apply a similar theory to the supply and demand in the courtship process where men will be the producers/sellers and women would be the customers/buyers.

I will call my theory "perfect coupling". And the structural conditional characteristics I would apply are:

- It is a safe and stable social environment, where your size is insignificant to the relativity of your ability to defend yourself. There is still se.xual dimorphism and men still come in different sizes and shapes from each other but the society is not violent.

- Equality is achieved. Women are as capable as men to forge a career and make their own money. There is no gender pay gap and women get full pay even when on maternity leave and suffer no career drawback for going on maternity leave. That said, the society is still based on merit so people earn different wages and talented people make more.

- All forms of marriage are allowed. The state has no say in relationships and can not dictate its forms and behaviours in it. All are free to chat up, toast and shagg whomever they wish.

- Biologically, men are still men and women are still women. The still have the different physical structures, aging process, sexual desires, emotional make ups etc.

In what order do you think the EFP securities would matter most to women?

I think it would be emotional, followed by financial and then physical as long as all three meet a minimum threshold.

Women would continue being attracted to other characteristics of men like talent, fame, intellect, communication skills etc as much or if not more than looks as long as they have the emotional make up they have that results in wanting company, their primary tool of attraction is still looks and they still have survival instincts like the rest of us.

Kai! And all these people would not believe me when I say I have a PhD in Womantology. That I am an academic scholar.

Tgirl4real: Me, I will go for Sagamite.

Oya, which one are you?

Sagamu is a good guy. Very polite, humble, unargumentative and a virgin (I am assuming holding hands with girls is not counted as sexual intercourse?).

How come all the ladies kept quiet after I described what a bad and nice guy are?

https://www.nairaland.com/1108764/ladies-date-nice-guy/4#13060962

You all know which one you will choose?

Oya, all of you start confessing. Which will you go for?

[quote author=D-Explorer]You are a lunkhead!

You deserve those cheap punks. Dude, stop degrading Nigerian girls, instead, think of upgrading yourself to meet up their status. Now run along [/quote]You are a person!

In your moronic world, girls who on average are rude, inconsiderate and exploitative are what you call upgrading!

Cretin! No wonder we have many shythead girls, when they have fucktards like you that are grateful.

Product of a failed education system.

Ball-less pussyclat man.

[quote author=D-Explorer]You're a Lunkhead!

Those cheap punks are equivalent of your degraded ideologies. You deserve a naija girl that will punch that your silly face [/quote]You are a person!

Only pussyclat men like you will get a Naija girl punch his face and he would tell her he is grateful and she is the best.

[quote author=D-Explorer]You're a Lunkhead!

At bolded, i got the same advice for you. Change those punks, they sure gonna have attitude problems because they're cheap. BTW, likes begat likes, a dude with poor ideologies of the Nigerian girl deserve a Nigerian girl with attitude problem. Deal with it [/quote]You are a person!

I leave the punks to you because you obviously cherish them and love punkishness.

A pussyclat man would obviously love when women drag him on the floor. That is his ideal fit in life.

Pussyclat man!

Tgirl4real: Personality is different from doing right or wrong IMO

Nah, doing right or wrong is part of personality.

Tgirl4real: I had always not being the type to hold grudges or keep malice. However, what I struggle with is letting go when the person hasn't yet apologised for the wrong done to me.

For example, when people bear false witness against me or slander me, it hurts me to my bones. If I have the opportunity to present my case I usually do, if not I don't care what people think. And I leave the offender to God. But, it does hurt me deeply.

When a person refuses to apologise it is one of the following:

- They are too proud/have a huge ego and do not see you as powerful enough to make them apologise to you.

- They do not see what they have done as wrong and, hence, it worthy of apology.

- To them, it is a mind game and they must win you in.

When someone is slandering you and bearing false witness, I suspect it is the third one. To them, it is a battle of arguments and they are using their arsenal. They want to win and you lose.

[quote author=D-Explorer]LOL. Dumbo, i roll with pretty clean lass if you know what that means. I respect every woman regardless of her status and they do like-wise. My eyes sees the best in a Nigerian girl and not the evils you're counting. Now you know we're different. Dude, your ideology about a home and even the Nigerian girl is tosh. You don't deserve any of them except those cheap punks revolving around you. Go grab a Somalian babe, i heard they say "YES SIR" at every command. Lunkhead! [/quote]You are a person!

Which decent girl goes for a pussyclat man?

The same "pretty clean lass (sic)" your dumbarse could not describe?

Obviously we are different. At your moronic level, you will see the best in a Nigerian girl even when Nigerian girls themselves know something is wrong with their attitude. Dumbshit!

You do deserve the average Nigerian girl.

Pussyclat man!

tpia1: no way around it, unless you're not a christian.

if Jesus didnt consider your personality before offering you his unconditional love, then why are you tagging others with what was forgiven in your case.



matt 18

Jesus is giving you unconditional love?

But there is a condition under which he will help throw you in hell fire to suffer because of your personality?

Jeez! I don't want that kind of unconditional love.

4bobo: were ni e,opolo e si ti daru. omo irankiran. be a good boy and stop fuc.king your mother.

person, do you think everyone does what you do with your mother?

Cretin!

[quote author=D-Explorer]Damn! I was too busy today to duly reply your rubbish. C'mon lunkhead, show some respect to a real dude that appreciates the Nigerian girls. If all you see are those negatives you profess, then you don't deserve a good naija girl, you got your class bro; those cheap punks around you, live with it. LOL[/quote]You are person!

The average Naija girl is definitely a perfect fit for your arsse. I will gladly dash your moronic arsse them.

Pussyclat man!

ronkebp: I think it depends on how you play the game....before i even answer, what is your definition of being nice? you can be nice and still be full of fun. Everyone likes fun.

Let me help the OP with the description.

Who else is best in a position to do it other than me, when I have a PhD in Womantology and MA with High Distinctions in Ashaworism?

Bad guy
- When he approaches you, he is quite self-assured and knows what to say to develop a conversation.
- Meeting up with him, he is not quick to show you he likes you, he makes you work a little for that privilege. He does not put you on a pedestal for you being attractive, you have to show him you are worthy of his time to like you.
- In a relationship, he is the type to say he loves you first only once every 2 weeks; other times he is only replying to you saying it.
- He is very confident and to some extent passively arrogant.
- Women are strongly attracted to him and he is quite a prolific flirt when he wants to be. His instinctive reaction to a fine woman is to flirt even if it does not end in sleeping with her or he does not want to sleep with her. He is just a natural and experienced flirt, and damn good at it.
- He has no fine and sexy female friends because historically it has always ended up with them being in his bed or fooling around, so he only has female relatives and not-great-looking girls as friends.
- He has had 7 main girlfriends with relationship length ranging from 8 months to 3 years and he has had numerous flings/one-night-stands/fck buddies/friends with very good benefits (nothing outrageous in number, maybe like 30 girls).
- He cheated on 4 of his ex-girlfriends but that did not include the 2 he has had the longest relationship with (of 3 and 2.5 years), he was faithful to the longer term girlfriends.
- 50% of his ex-girlfriends/flings are superhot.
- Sees a woman as the weaker sex and likes to be in charge.
- When you decide to test the boundaries as all women do, he is willing to tell you off. If you don't back down, he is even more assertive and confrontational and does not resist letting you know he is the boss. If you maintain offensive behaviour after that, he can employ hard tactics of ignoring you until you get your head out of your arsse and give a full apology.
- You know only about 50% of what is on his mind, there is still some mystery to him.
- Has a passively or actively dominant personality when with other men. He knows how to control them without them knowing he is controlling them and they like him even though some feel intimidated or see him as a threat.
- Normally calm but not averse to being confrontational and telling even guys off to their face if needs be.
- Quiet but respectful with strangers. Just says hi and continues what he is doing or wants to do except they talk to him or he has a duty to mix with them (e.g. he is a host in a party).
- He is self-centred (not selfish), he focuses on what he wants when with other guys (e.g. he would go first for the finest girl even if one of his friends is already oggling her and will die to have her but is scared of making a move).
- Selfish in bed 70% of the time but the 30% he decides to please you, you are like "What the Bleep did you just do to me? WHOOOO!". He has fabulous experience and knows what he is doing when he is interested (30% of the time).



Nice guy
- When he approaches you, he is quite nervous and just gives out complements so you like him.
- Meeting up with him, he is quick to show you he likes you, he makes every effort to show you that you would mean the world to him and he would be loyal.
- In a relationship, he is the type to say he loves you first at least 4 times a week even without you saying it.
- He is normal and quite humble
- Women see him as a nice guy and someone safe to talk to as a friend.
- He has lots of fine and sexy female friends who like him as a friend but do not see him in a sexual way.
- He has had 2 main girlfriends with relationship length 3 years each, and 2 other attempts at relationship that never worked (lasted 6 months with only holding hands). He has never cheated on a girl before because he is not capable (game) and he is not willing (conscience).
- He goes out with average looking girls, no superhot hot or fine girl.
- Sees a woman as his equal and does not feel he has the right to tell her anything, it is 50-50.
- When you decide to test the boundaries as all women do, he wants to negotiate and appease you. If you don't back down, he becomes nervous and keeps quiet so as not to offend you further and to end the argument. If you maintain your offensive behaviour after that, he starts apologising and pampering you till you stop.
- You know him in-out and can even predict his next move/comment before he makes it.
- He is friendly and willing to please when with other guys. Guys see him as a nice guy and are nice to him.
- Will avoid confrontation with other guys at all cost. He would smile, acquiesce and try and douse any heated atmosphere even when he is not at fault.
- Eager to be nice to strangers. He greats them and tries to mix with them. He wants to please and be friends all the time.
- He is altruistic, he focuses on pleasing other guys (e.g. he would go and deliver a message to the finest girl for one of his friends who is already oggling her and will die to have her but is scared of making a move, even though he likes the girl too).
- Steady and average in bed 100% of the time. Willing to please and asking what you like.

caseless: i'm d best guy for her..






Sent from my car engine V8

Mascot take note!

Love your barb.

I was going to develop one of my own about my phone being "Sent from my i-jebu 8 made in Iperu", to ridicule him, until I saw yours.

adaemetu: I like nice guys but I barely meet them. Maybe it's cos I'm nice too. You know the saying oppositer attracts.

You meet them, you just don't notice them.

Your attention is focused on the bad, dangerous-looking boy.

Yes, majority will date a nice guy .................... i.e. when they are looking to settle down and the clock is ticking too hard.

Young girls don't normally date nice guys.

sanb: Okay...well I didn’t want any insult which was why I made the request...

I agree with you on our intellect; indeed, we have highly intelligent women in Nigeria as well as other parts of the world. And as you’ve said yourself “At best she can be on par with you”. It’s also good that you see highly educated and intelligent women as "a great bonus".

Most women don’t want their man to run his house like a military camp. They require some tender touch and to feel relaxed when their man is around and not scared anytime he’s in the home. So on this analysis, I think you need to relax a bit. But as you know, we all have choices to make and every woman will have to determine the sort of character traits she wants in her man.....

If any man wants to run a military camp, I suggest he joins the army.

I don't intend to dictate to an adult like a child, so if I date a woman, I expect her to have her own mind.

That said, we need to recognise the strengths and weaknesses of each other and utilise the strengths while minimising the impact of the weaknesses of both parties.

The type of man I am, I am a leader so I need to lead. So despite being partners in the relationship, she would need to realise when it comes to the koko, I am the Senior and Managing partner, she is the Junior partner. I am the CEO and Executive Chairman, she is COO. Basically, she has immense powers, influence and say in everything and would be appreciated for her talent but I run the show when superior power needs to be applied. That is my own policy, it is really that simple.

[quote author=fresh_dude]Abi na Cynthia Rtothrock? Women fail to understand that the human male is a very easy species to please. All we want is: No Drama![/quote][Sagamite chants to himself]

Kai! I am not a schizophrenic. I do not have multiple personalities.

I am not a schizophrenic. I do not have multiple personalities.

I am not a schizophrenic. I do not have multiple personalities.



Couldn't agree more. Honestly, I am one of the easiest people to please because I am clear on and know what I want. And I know it is not stewpid drama.

AjanleKoko: Roman shouldn't have given RDM a contract in the first place. Which is really the problem with Chelsea. The club doesn't really have the thinking of a big club. It's just driven by one man's ego, and no real philosophy or long-term institutional goals.

Remember Jupp Heynckes and Real Madrid in 1998? That's what big clubs do. The man didn't deliver to the level Madrid wanted, and they fired him at the end of the season, despite his winning the Champions' League that year.

Giving RDM a contract was merely for sentimental reasons. Look at what City owners are doing, using Mancini to take the club to a certain level. Once they are satisfied, they will throw him out and get someone like Pep or Mourinho to start a project. Most likely Pep, since they already hired most of the Barca think-tank from the Laporta era. City will be the biggest club in the EPL, second only to United, in half a decade, at the rate they're going.

Roman is a man in his 30s that has never worked in or run an efficient business and it shows.

The guy just jam money by being fortunately in a corrupt network.

sanb: You're sure about this? Okay I’ve got a few questions to ask and please whilst you give me a response kindly avoid insults;

Why will I insult you because you asked a question?

Ever seen me insult people for that?

sanb: Are you normally intimidated by a woman who makes her own money?

NO WOMAN INTIMIDATES ME!!!

If Kim Kardashian sees me now and wants to date me, I would date her with no problems despite:

- Her public popularity.

- She being richer than me.

- Her ex being mega stars.

- And a pack of press wolves that would follow me around 24/7.

Why would I be intimidated because she makes more money?

If you ever read me on NL, you will realise I am not one of those mugus that worship money or attribute money to superiority.

The only thing that impresses me and I see as superiority differentiator is "intellect" (and I am not talking about exam score ones), and no woman can ever have that more than me. At best, she can be on par.

So, nah, I don't get intimidated. I am more likely to admire her if she makes it honestly and through her hardwork (not connections and privileged life).

sanb: Are you happy when you meet a woman who is highly educated and intelligent? and

Not a priority. I tend to prefer beautiful face, curves around her body, good milky way and a great arsse. As in:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogas2XA6qqA

My criteria is she should meet the intelligence threshold, that is for her not to be dumb. You know those girls that all they know is make up, gossip and talking about celebrity. The ones that can not even recognise the picture of Finance Minister/Chancellor of the Exchequer if shown one.

So if she is highly educated and intelligent, that is a great bonus, not a priority to Saga.

sanb: Are you able to tolerate a woman who might not necessarily say yes to every single thing you want to do?

Hell yeah! I am a great proponent of women' rights. Everyone should be free to do whatever they want to do without being forced.

That said, if you want to be in my life expect some of my rules. Remember, I should have rights as well, hence I am free to leave you if some of my critical rules and values are not followed. ...................And you will and should not get half when I make that decision.

AJJ: and you‘ve just accepted that you‘ve been dating the dumb ones! Maybe you should change your taste.

How has he accepted?

What makes you sure he is not focusing on the 10% by identifying the 90%?

[quote author=fresh_dude]Lol. I'll reply you the exact way you would have a post like this, ''so because of a wedding ring I should tolerate disrespect? Please change all this archaic menatality, this is 2012''[/quote]PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT

I swear to everyone on NL, I am not fresh dude. I am not using another NL username secretly.

We just happen to have EXACTLY the same mentality and approach to women, and tend to deliver it with the same insightful words and beautiful repartees.

Fck me! On this issue, I must admit we are like clones of each other.

gulfer: If I be one of these fake Pastor around wey never make am, na now I go come out with one powerful programme for all governmet officials, 'Defeating the Spirit of Death'. Tell you, my harvest will be bountiful.

TB Joshua would have cornered that market.

He is market leader for that sector. He would get all the fat-cat looters, maybe your hypothetical church might be able to aim at the niche segment because of his dominance.

You will have to settle for clients like NURTW chairmen, local government councillors etc.

sanb: You’re so right...It makes me wonder "WHY" myself...

It is amazing how when men are not interested in some women, they use silly words like "he is intimidated".

E.g. "Black men go for white women because they are intimidated by the strong black woman".

Intimidated ko, ingeminated ni.

If men are not attracted to some woman, it is because something is wrong with her personality and/or looks. Pure and simple!

Personality! Looks! If she lacks one of the 2, her chances are drastically reduced.

She should feel free to console herself that she ingeminates men instead of correcting her unattractive faults.

Who she be wey she feels she dey intimidate men? Xena the Warrior princess?

The fcking ediot called Abramovich does it again.

A foool with too much money he did not work for keeps on hiring and firing managers and creating further instability.

A manager is in the top 3 in the league that is has not yet even reached half stage and you decide to sack him. Cretin!

4bobo:
BUT IS IT NOT MAD LIKE HUNDGRY COW , TO POST SOMETHING LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMEONE DIES, REMEMBER, HE MIGHT BE YOUR PAPA. BESIDES, HE REPRESENTED YOUR COUNTRY WELL UNLIKE SOME NOW A DAY'S HUNGRY POLITICIAN.
PAPA R.I.P.

Shut up, moronic person!

Product of a failed education system.

So what if he might be his dad, cretin!

The only Nigerian High Commisioner to UK that I can ever feel sorry for if he dies is Dr Tafida. Before he came, the embassy was a complete mess and a jungle because people had to loot.

The fucktards like this would say "He represented his country". Representing your country as an organised, inefficient and incompetent piece of shyt might be what makes someone of your moronic standard pleased, but don't speak for others.

Cretin! More like "He humiliated his country".

carefreewannabe: Many guys on this thread are guilty of number 7
Or are they just on their period?

The women love it, so why not?

[quote author=D-Explorer]Start your rehab works on Sagamite, it's getting worse daily [/quote]Shut up, person!

Women don't have respect for cowards. Pussyclats that run from other men. See point 4 on the list.