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RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m):
pleep: Yea its no fun to approach a girl when shes got a friend around.

Especially if that friend has a hijab! talk about intimidation lol
Yeah, it is not the greatest setting to be frank. Luckily I have a good sense of humour and can be innovative when approaching girls, so sometimes I can approach in such an environment.

It can even be fun because you can make it difficult for the girls to know which of them you are interested in by focusing your chat on all of them. This might even make them much friendlier as they try to figure out who you want and work hard to make it themselves just for the ego boost, even if they are not interested. Well that will only occur if their is no huge dichotomy in their appeal. Like when you see a gorgeous girl with her butters friend(s) 4 times her size. Then it is obvious who you are going for and the cockblockers are likely to do their thing:

https://www.nairaland.com/942597/why-women-own-worst-enemies/5#10897644

Even if they are all fine, that depends on the group of girls though. If they are Naija, I suggest you waka pass, as they might see it as a great opportunity to humiliate you and feel like a Super Star amongst their friends.

As per the friend wearing hijab, that does not mean nada to me. grin I have even approached a girl that was wearing hijab before. It is not the norm, but fck, she was so freaking curvy wearing hijab, waist coat on a top white shirt and colourful gypsy skirt that assenuated her hips, to the point that I could not resist. Hips are a universal, non-religious language. grin

She happened to be a Naija girl from a popular Lagos family with double barrel surnames. She gave me her number and we went out on a date. She was not sure but thought since I had the confidence to approach her while wearing hijab, I must be a Allahu Akbar guy. She asked during the date, I never answered. Turned it to a joke and game without lying. It was when she used the word 'haram' and I did not know the meaning, when she realised I was not muslim and started laughing. grin
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:01pm On Nov 27, 2012
[quote author=ekt_bear]Update:

So she responded. She is busy with finals related stuff this week, but has agreed to hook things up sometime after that.

So....suck it, haters grin

ekt_bear wins again cheesy[/quote]Except she is the one suggesting to meet up, this seems a bit rushed by UK standard considering she was not willing to give her phone number.

In the UK, she would just think you are desperate and [as a black girl] is just likely to exploit it.

But, Hey, that is the UK. I will not tell someone in the US how to play the game there when the rules of the game might be different.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:52pm On Nov 27, 2012
Tgirl4real: This is so not fair. If it's true, how can anyone treat another this way? huh

Sad!!!
Welcome to the behaviours of the average L'Oreal modern day woman that men are suppose to endure to be privileged enough to be tagged "Real Men".

The same selfish, wick and inconsiderate woman in that link would be the same one complaining when a man dumps her arsse in marriage and looks for his happiness elsewhere. Then you will hear her moaning "did the 10 year marriage men nothing to him".
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 6:29pm On Nov 25, 2012
Dopefiend: Olodo grin

@carefreewannabe nd segamite, u guys r floodin d thread. D OP already left
So because an OP has left a thread, the common issue he raised stops being relevant?
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Prayer Network For Patience Jonathan by Sagamite(m): 6:04pm On Nov 25, 2012
Lets not forget that Nigeria's annual budget is roughly $32bn per year.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/31-billion-stolen-under-president-jonathan-nigeria-%E2%80%93punch

Yet, the people you pray for that go abroad for healthcare will only abet corruption and never fight it.

Then mugus run to pastor for miracles to change their lives. Only God can ......................... grin

https://www.nairaland.com/1108630/no-child-after-marriage-how/3#13084398
FamilyRe: Family Section Reality Show - Keeping Up With Nairalanders by Sagamite(m): 5:37pm On Nov 25, 2012
jennykadry: So it was 1k she asked for? "after now" you will see her speaking grammar like say she can fit cater for herself. Of all the men to look at na Saga? Saga, those your biceps, your six packs and your ripped body must be confusing these women oooo. Cmon show them what you've got.
No min them. They must to fall.

This is how my 6 packs look.

https://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/six_pack_beer_belly.jpg
FamilyRe: Family Section Reality Show - Keeping Up With Nairalanders by Sagamite(m): 5:25pm On Nov 25, 2012
jennykadry: Excuse me? angry is that why efe has been carrying her big nyash around this forum, wearing that her yeye iro and buba that let not make me see road well, with her "kpatewo" hair style, asking for you to give her 2k naira to make her hair?

As for BB she has failed. The ship has long sailed.

Say what? Which pre-nup? do quick and share your playstation, nintendo and Wii games in half abeg grin
Na my bags of Garri and the one plot of farm land in Sagamu.

And, no, it was not 2K Efe asked for. Na 1K for hair, the other 1K na for top-up and transaport.

Where I wan give girl 2K for hair out of my 10K a month salary. She be thief? She dey use juju? angry
FamilyRe: Family Section Reality Show - Keeping Up With Nairalanders by Sagamite(m): 5:11pm On Nov 25, 2012
jennykadry: Which Kain queshiun is this one? Sagaamu? The king of my heart grin cheesy that is why
You want me to reveal to all my okpekes on NL that I am actually married?

You want me to tell the story of my marital life where my wife is the one that goes to pick up my girlfriends for me and she then excuses us by spending the night in the Guest room based on the contractual terms of our prenuptial agreements? undecided cheesy
RomanceRe: Ladies: How Long Before You Accept A Wooing Guy? by Sagamite(m): 4:24pm On Nov 25, 2012
bukit05: Men! If they agree instantly, u will take them to be too cheap and if they take time before they accept they will say d girl is proving hard to get. Nawa ooo
I have seen several, different girls from other countries and regions consistently handle the situation with grace and class that does not lead to either accusation.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 4:11pm On Nov 25, 2012
[quote author=mr.drizzy]i believe theres something wrong with u guyz,what is it with u guyz and number and insult.i believe u dnt have anything doing.if ur bored go do sumthing rather dan embarassing urselfs mtscheew[/quote]undecided

You forgot the rotation rule is "puff, puff, give"?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s_zsOyHbVY
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m):
carefreewannabe: Saga, you have never experienced a guy calling you like 5 times every day JUST because you gave him your number, so you don't understand why some girls prefer to give their FB profile information.

I'm not on facebook neither BUT I prefer to take a guy's number due to bad experience. Don't blame the girls all the time. See what guys do sometimes. It's crazy, really. And it's scary.
I think a combination of careful selection of guys and transparency in your intent would really limit that.

A girl that is as inconsiderate, rude and mean like this should not wonder why a guy responds like this to her.

https://www.nairaland.com/820236/what-not-after-first-date

https://www.nairaland.com/820236/what-not-after-first-date#9723514

Also there is always the 'Get out of jail' card I rarely see girls use and they should use more often: "Hey, you are so sweet but I am sorry I have a boyfriend/I just started dating someone this week (i.e. if you had given him a number and change your mind)". That should always work eventually even for the most rorku of guys.

But most women just don't have the balls they advocate men should have. They would rather not pick up a phone call than be transparent and say I am not into you. But they want guys to grow the balls, "man up" and break hard news to them when it is the guys turn to avoid a hard message. They love to give rules they wouldn't follow.

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils/7#11126660
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 3:52pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: 2. You should see these your boys acting different when they are around a girl they like. What they tell you is one thing, what they think and feel is another. I have brothers and male friends and I know that guys like to pretend in front of their buddies when actually they're more sensitive than they allow themselves to be in front of other men. Anyway.
4. You were! Just because you like little girls, doesn't mean other men don't like mature women. I have already told you THAT enough older women are more attractive than some young girls. And I have also told you that EVEN when a woman is 40 there will STILL be older men willing to please her. You don't have to tell people be to be nice when they have the "power", either they have a lovely character or they don't. I have seen so many elderly, unatttarctive women being rude. This tells me that age didn't change them. Apart from that, how do YOU know that some older women were NOT nice when they were young? And how old are YOU to KNOW that women are rude when they have the power and nice when they get older? You must be very old to say that.
2. Maybe your brothers and male friends are just scared of your snide comments. You know Saga Saga, Saga-one-time, Sagalicious could not give a hoot. wink I am with my boys most times and I know what they are like when they are around a girl they like. They might want to be with her and see her as the perfect live-in babymama and they would marry her but they are definitely not desperate to marry. A couple of them have gone to jail this year. undecided

4. And I have told you that most men are attracted to younger women because they are at their aesthetic peak. Successful, eligible men then to go for these younger women than older women. Older women are known to complain about this and being alone usually with snide comments. I am 55 years old, I know most Naija and black girls are very rude and inconsiderate when young (beautiful and powerful), but then they expect a romantic and considerate man when their biodegradation begins. Black women really need to change. I have said it before, a lot of my friends have not dated a black woman for over 10 years just because of their attitude. https://www.nairaland.com/1012348/parents-how-teach-daughters-self-esteem/4#11750251
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 3:31pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: Unless he's not interested in a mature relationship, he should listen to Saga.
If he's interested in a nice and serious relationship, he should ignore Saga's comments.
If the lady responds to Saga's tricks, she has self-esteem issues grin
She is already not interested in a mature relationship when she could not say "No" and she is giving FB contact instead of phone number.

Don't take such a girl seriously except she is willing to work for it and repent. cool
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m):
pleep: Seriously, the more i look at it the more obvious it becomes that Nigerian men are idiots when it comes to women... This is why all ur chicks are golddiggers and use you like tampons. because you guys have no 3rd eye.

Create the attraction? believe me chicks are just like us.. they know if they like someone the moment they meet them. Nothing good will ever come of trying to create attraction with someone who didnt like you before.

Imagine if some ugly chick was trying to make you keep her around, what would she have to bring to the table... alot of money and free dinners right? I hope you catch my driftwink
Women are different from men. You can create the attraction even if she did not like you from the start. They really don't know what they want.

As long as she is willing to have some contact, he has a chance.

The best option is always to go for a girl that is infatuated with you from the word 'Go' though. Those are the ones that will love you to the bone and I go for.

The next best is to create the attraction with you in control of the process. You will get her eating out of your hand.

Another, which I don't like but happens, is for you to show her love and she starts liking you. Wrong but still gets the girl some times.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 3:23pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: 2. You don't see them 'cause you're not dating them. Apart from that, you're talking like only women feel the need to marry, which is NOT true. Many men feel the same way. Many men marry when they're still young. At the same time, some women love being single or don't consider marriage a good choice. Don't think everyone is like you and your buddies.
3. Ok, then. I'll remember what you said about women being after money. wink
4. No, it wasn't suppossed to touch a nerve. It was suppossed to show you how you discriminate against the most natural process of a human life, that of aging.
5. You have ignored me telling you that women ALSO like nice, young, athletic bodies instead of pot bellies tongue
2. I am friends with them and we talk about everything. Many men marry young because of love, culture or because some girl they love demands it or would end it (that is what happened between me and jennykadry). I will correct your grammar: "At the same time, a few women love being single or don't consider marriage a good choice".
4. I was not discriminating. I was only being factual and telling people to be nice when they have the power. If they are not, they should not moan when others are not when the boot changes foot. My core problem with women. undecided In my world, you can't be an arsee and then demand kindness in future.
5. I posted you a link that has already answered the question. cool
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 3:09pm On Nov 25, 2012
pleep: He has no game because he cant tell! its so fuckin obvious she isnt into him.. If a girl told me something like that i would have just said "its cool" and moved on.

He opened a topic on NL cuz he has no skillz.
He is still in a position to create the attraction. He can still have her eating out of his hands if he can play it and her external environment coincidentally is favourable to him.

His chances are reduced but they are definitely not dead.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 3:03pm On Nov 25, 2012
pleep: [size=25pt]Disregard all this yeye advice! [/size]

You have no game dude. This chick obviously doesnt like you.. leave her alone! keep your dignity
Because a chick (sic) does not like him, he has no game?
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 2:49pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: 1. Perfect!
2. Many men around 35 - 40 want to get married quickly. They change a lot around this age. Cultural pressure or not. Why do you think many girls are marrying? Cultural pressure!
3. He is YOUR role model. And you can have your preference but pls don't complain about Nigerian women being after money in the future because men like you add up to this way of thinking in women. I perfectly understand now.
4. It's his life and it's his choice. Fortunately, not all men think like you. By the way, how old is your father and how old is your mama? Did she lose her worth when she became older? Was her worth limited to looks and age? And do you really think women don't prefer sexy, young, athletic bodies but are rather into (fat) old man who can't perform in bed like the young wild ones? Like honestly!
2. Nah. I don't see them. They still have alot of choices and many marry women who are desperate to marry after they have got bored of smashing different chics. It can become uninspiring boning a girl and immediately afterwards you really want nothing to do with her anymore. That is when guys think "maybe I should pick one" but the disadvantage of such a choice is that the girl would demand commitment immediately as she is scared she is just another in a long queue considering his history (not married at that age). That is how those kinds of guys get married quickly.
3. Despite the fact I don't understand the link and relevance of the point or how I add to it, I have never complained about Naija girls going for money. cheesy
4. Is the bringing of my mother suppose to touch a nerve? grin grin grin Snide comments? If you compare my mother's chances with the most eligible men with that of Meagan Good, my mother would win hands down. cheesy https://www.nairaland.com/1092778/how-does-aging-affect-love/4#13071399
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 2:37pm On Nov 25, 2012
slyfoxxjoe: because she always has the option of ignoring/deleting you on fb whereas she cant stop u from calling her phone 50 times a day. either way she is not just interested bro,
BS!!!

Trust me, it is most likely all a Power trip. She gets guys asking for her number everytime and she feels like she can toy with them and enjoy their attention.

I am not saying she should give her number to every guy that asks but she could easily have said "No" but she thought let me put him on a back-burner and bask in his attention and seeing him work to get me.

Don't believe all the BS excuses women give to justify their behaviours.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 2:27pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: 1. You don't have to be hot to attract guys. There are so many ugly guys who take anything they can get.
2. The same happens to men, if only a bit later. I'm talking from experience grin grin They can be really desperate, talking about children and marriage too soon.
3. If you look like George Clooney, it's fine. If not, it's disgusting. Don't think your wife will be faithful when she only married you for your money but in fact thinks you're not her type and too old. Reality.
4. I have always complained about grandpas marrying women that could be their(grand-) daughters and I will continue when I get older. Nothing to do with age. So now that I'm still young, it's ok, right? But if I get older, you'll say I'm saying that 'cause I'm old, right? You're reading something into it.
5. Good for you. wink
1. You need to be hot to attract the more eligible men. Obviously there are alot of agbero boys for agbero girls and girls that leave it too late. They settle for each other.
2. Nah, not a little bit later. There time is not up for many decades to come. If you see a non-pensionable guy doing that, it is because of cultural pressure.
3. George Clooney is a role model. cheesy Keep young and keep them young. I would rather have a hot, young girl that is after my money than a my-time-don-pass older woman that is looking for a mugu to take the biodegradeable offerings.
4. If he has the powers to catch and date them, more grease to his elbows. Why should he settle for anything short of the best he can get? cheesy
5. Thank you. I understand risk management immensely. cheesy
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 2:09pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: 1. Your first mistake is to think that a woman's power is limited to her looks.
2. Your second mistake is to think that a woman has no power when she gets older.
3. Your third mistakes is to think that only older women feel disgusted by grandpas running after "young skirts".
4. Your fourth mistake is to think that older women can't get older man. Even when a woman is 40, there will still be men who are older than her and willing to please her.
5. Your fifth mistake is that you always focus on negativity and surround yourself with such.

Go ahead and open a new thread.
5. Your fifth mistake is to think that ol
1. Yep, that is their primary power over men, in attracting men and in a relationship.
2. It is drastically reduced that is why you have shot-gun weddings and girls asking "where is this going after 2 weeks".
3. Got you. The snide comments. cheesy
4. Not as much as younger women and they complain about older men going for younger women leaving them with limited choices. The pool drops drastically and their checklist is drastically shortened. The most eligible men (i.e. affluent and even buff) in their dating bracket go for younger women (who are still in their prime) with their Ferraris. Then snide comments like "mid-life crisis" emerge.
5. I don't surround myself with it, I make myself aware of it so I don't suffer for it.

5. Your numbering is wrong. tongue grin
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:51pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: Why should she?
There are just a lot of older women I see nowadays that think they, after enjoying their "power" when they had it and think it is OK, can change men and stop them from using their "power" by insulting them or using snide comments. grin

I have even been thinking of opening a thread on it. cheesy
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:42pm On Nov 25, 2012
carefreewannabe: No no no. You're wrong.
Now that she is young and hot, she'll go for an older one who is already made and will be settled and fine when she gets older grin grin grin
Fair game. wink .......................as long as she is not whining and insulting some men in future for being George Clooneyish. cheesy
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:25pm On Nov 25, 2012
[quote author=ekt_bear]Up Kenyan girls

Up Ethiopian girls

Up Southern African girls.

Up Eastern African girls.

Up Eastern European girls.

Up Naija girls

Down stuck up half-white african american girls

Down any women who don't want ekt_bear and Sagamite cheesy[/quote]Fixed for the UK version.

US rules don't work in UK.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:13pm On Nov 25, 2012
oyb: demand and supply cheesy
If there is a higher demand for light-skin girls, I really would not understand why. undecided
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 1:06pm On Nov 25, 2012
cantell: @Op,
The lady doesn't like you. She's just being polite. I've seen what ladies do, when they're interested in a guy and this is not one of them.
From the way i see it, you look like a good guy to her and she doesn't wanna hurt ur feelings. . .
Even if she eventually gives you her nos, you'll always be the back up plan and trust me, you don't wanna be that guy.
So move on bro, it's a lost cause!
So fcking well said.

Always avoid being a girl's back up plan.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:59pm On Nov 25, 2012
Luxythere: Its very hard for a girl to play hard to get in this information age.

With a phone no in your hand you will have tooooooo easy access to her while with Fb you have more pics to swoon over.

Why does a gal play hard to get ? Its a good way to know a guy who is really really into you.

Its a great way to know a guy who does not give up in life.

Some tribe in Kenya give the woman to the man who can take the most lashes, the yorubas make him prostrate the Ibos make him pay through his nose.

A man values what he works for.

My advise is do not give up...
Keep your mumu lectures for Real Men.

ArchMed, I hope you are jotting this down?
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:56pm On Nov 25, 2012
pro01: Smh. Is her father Godswill Akpabio or is her mother Diezani Madueke? I would only lust after a girl's phone number relentlessly (and put up with her bullshyt) if I believe I can get a N400m government contract through her dad or mum's influence.

Other than that, I would be mad to waste time with a random girl (however 'fine' she thinks she is) who hesitates to exchange numbers with me(as opposed to "giving" me her number, as if I need it more than she needs mine). The fact remains that one has absolutely nothing to gain from her (or her number), other than pusy - which often turns out not worth the effort anyway. It doesn't make sense to validate any mgbeke's over-bloated opinion of her pusy's worth. It's not like there aren't several other men that have bleeped and are fucking her senseless at that point in time, so you shouldn't allow her experiment her selective (and therefore fake) 'hard to get-ness' on your honorable self.

Some of you guys need to stop making these mgbekes feel too important. I imagine even hookers do shakara with their numbers in the daytime, only to peddle those same numbers freely at night.
No mind the girl.

When they both grow up and he starts making serious money, her looks are gone or in fast decline and he is then pulling younger girls as fine as she used to be then she would be insulting him that he is a "pervert, he should go for women his age". Thinking she can use insult to deny him is pleasure and rights. grin
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:51pm On Nov 25, 2012
kenkruse: Op you haven't said much to attract her attention. Girls fall in love with what they hear. Make her believe that you aren't gona disappoint her. Some lies will do.
Rubbish!

If she is hot and young and you say this, you are D-U-N done.
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:49pm On Nov 25, 2012
stillwater: I guess it's different for different people. I believe phone numbers are more intimate.
BS!!!

How come you did not give me your phone number when we met, despite the fact you were crazy about me, and only gave me your NL user name? tongue grin
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:46pm On Nov 25, 2012
Archmed: Bro,u are just being egocentric..be a gentleman and stop being a nuisance to her.She isn't giving u her number now,doesn't mean she aint gonna give u in future..She needs 2b convinced abt ur personality das why she wants d Facebook platform as a 1st medium for conversation..and come 2think of it,who told u can get intimate thru F.B dan phone call?....are u serious at all?
Loser. grin
RomanceRe: "I Can't Give You My Phone Number, We Can Be Facebook Friends Though" by Sagamite(m): 12:39pm On Nov 25, 2012
[quote author=ekt_bear]It is what it is. I don't meet girls who look like her every day. Better to try and fail than not to try at all, imo.[/quote]I agree it is better to try.

But it is key you are not just another one of the guy that is attracted to her. As you said, she is hot, so she would have them in a queue.

Leave the queue and move to a distance 20m away and tell her to come over. She needs to know you are not one of the guys that will laugh and try and please her, you are willing to tell her to fck off.

You have already messed up a bit twice. Taking the FB offer and contacting too soon when she accepted.

Now when you chat with her, make sure you are yourself and emphasis the areas of you she complains about with confidence. If she says she does not like loud/confident guys, then tell her you are actually very loud/confident and you love being so. Pile up all the things she might say she hates about you, instead of adapting to her wish, don't tell her what you do for a living so as not to appear you are trying to impress her (turn it to a joke of something she knows you are not e.g. gang banger), keep the contact light but polite, if she is not generating at least 30% of the conversation in a chat, tell her you have to go and you will chat later, and make sure you let her know you are not in a hurry to see her again that you have other things to do. Definitely don't be extra nice to her, it is obvious the monster inside her feeds on that. Give her a project!

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