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armyofone: Nothing wrong being housewifey. Ann Romney is a good example and she is enjoying Romney's money (they built the wealth together)

No need crying over lost money. Man up and start all over.

Crase girl!

davidylan: moral of the story - marry a woman who is on the same level financially as you. That is why i have a problem with men who see themselves as their woman's super hero. She brings 50% you bring your own 50% and make sure everything is in both your names.

Women tend to always want to marry up!

It is evolutionary.

Marrying a woman at same level is usually a challenge especially if she is good looking.

If you want to do this, you might end up having to compromise on looks. If I did that, my ancestors will cause earthquakes in anger from their numerous graves in Sagamu!

sally bonne: A Gold Digger is a Gold Digger With or Without A Prenup

My dear NL in family section I greet,this is my first post I think.

I have a question which was inspired after watching a South African movie and this is it; what is the use of making ur partner (wife) sign a pre-nup when at the end if its your property she's after and she will still get it.

The scenario am about to paint is a black woman who got married to a white south African, his family says she's after his money so she must sign a pre-nup for them to be sure she was not interested in their sons wealth, which she did.

After the wedding, because of the love the husband had for her, he sponsored her on various trips abroad, mostly over budgeted. Any gift the husband gave her was and must always be in her name, from building house for her family to buying a shop, cars and boutiques in her name and all. She made him move outside the area his family was living to another state so they won't have control or say, they were not bothered cos according to them, she signed a prenup.

After running down his company to open hers which were in her name and family members name, she divorced her husband. They could not do anything when they found out cos according to the lawyer, what she now has were gifts given to her by her husband. He was heartbroken and ended up in the psychiatric ward.

So my point is, a gold digger is a gold digger with or with a prenup. Most of them don't need half of your wealth in d case of a divorce, but a means to open their own coy thru ur company.

So from the above case scenario, is prenup really necessary to a gold digger? cos if she wants gold she can stil get it with or without a prenup.

Second question: if its the woman that is rich do men sign prenup? cos I have never heard or seen a man sign prenup b4 marriage, anticipating your constructive comments.

Thanks.

What a silly question.

She can get that from a mugu Real Man, not a man from Sagamu!

She would pick broom and start sweeping from SA to my street in Sagamu if she ever thinks she can use my head like that.

The guy is foool does not mean prenups cannot work.

kay9: MBJ, i dunno knw if anyone is paying u for these arguments but u really should stop talking out of your depth. No offense man but u're REALLY beginning to sound stewpid; Murray is mediocre?? No great player out there..have u ever heard of Nadal?? Federer? Djokovic?? Jeez, do u even have a t.v??

Seriously dude, your ignorance stinks. Just shut up, ok? Or better still, leave sports out of your arguments.

This is a lesson to people.

If you argue emotionally instead of with logic and objective, you will get stuck soon and start chatting shyt.

If people give you logic and objectivity and you refuse to accept and decide to dig your heels in for your lame arguments, you will soon start making errors that make you look silly.

Pure facts!

I know he knows he is stuck but he does not want to lose face! And I will enjoy the ridicule of his lame arguments that he keeps on giving to defend the previous lame one.

Andy Murray is not successful at all!

MRbrownJAY: oga Sagamite and his selective reading LOL.... ok read my post one more time and tell me if you missed it again:
now dont twist my words as you always try to do, football is a TEAM SPORT, so if that said TEAM never won any of the important competition, like WC/EC/CL etc, then that team will NEVER be considered successful, even if they win all the charity shields in the world, lol!

so if weah played in a team who won any of their respective league, which falls in the ETC i wrote (unless you wanted me to enumerate all the top championships/leagues in the world) then that player is/was a successful player indeed.

JJ MBJ Logica!

It does not matter if it is a team sport na! Surely if Weah has never been in a or join a winning team, he must not be good enough then? Successful teams don't want him. Then he is a failure.

So Ato Boldon, Tyson Gay, Asafa Powell, Johan Blake and Frankie fredericks are not successful athletes in 100m at all then, according to MB-to-the-J logic and common sense!

They are failures in the 100m because they have never won the Olympic Gold in it.

MRbrownJAY: just because YOU believe the law is stoopid does NOT make it a fact......this is YOUR opinion and you have the right to it, but please dont try to make it like it's a damn FACT.

When Sagamite says something, it is fact! You will do well in this world if you adhere to that philosophy.

My opinion will always have superior sense otherwise I would never have made them.

The laws are stewpid and unfair. Any git knows that.

MRbrownJAY: money is only PART of the contribution that is made in any union, the minute YOU understand that, is the minute you will live a more peaceful life (when it comes to issue of marriage). EXAMPLE: if a wife brings out the best out of man so that he finally can get up and make some serious money for the family, then this woman's contribution is the backbone of any dime they would ever make as a family.

If you ask even the most useless quack in psychology in University of Maiduguri, he would tell you that is unlikely to be the scnario for extremely successful men. It is the values I have drilled into you that are the ones. Successful men are overwhelmingly naturally talented and driven men, usually with middle-class or privileged backgrounds.

Go and do the case study.

MRbrownJAY: oh lawd, oga Sagamite and his selective reading again........... his wife is NOT contributing to his earning from FB, she is contributing to the WELLBEING OF THEIR UNION (in whatever ways she does).
after 7yrs, then he should give his wife whatever is RIGHT for him to do (and her to accept)....if they cannot come to an mature understanding, then let the court decide on how much she should be awarded. but IMHO, she is entitled to at least 30% of whatever money was generated (between the two of them) during their union.
the fact that oga Sagamite does NOT believe that she deserves it, is irrelevant to the point at hand. if anyone does not like these practices, then they certainly shouldnt get married. CASE CLOSED!

Tell me why you think she is entitled to at least 30% of the money he makes from FB?

MBJ Logica!

MRbrownJAY: Weah won the French league with PSG, the French cup with Monaco, the Italian league with AC Milan, voted world AND European player of the year in 1995....so i dont know about you but he did win some IMPORTANT tournament, duh!

Abegi! He was unsuccessful, he did not win the WC or Champions league!

I thought you said even if Murray was ranked No 1 but does not win a Grand Slam, despite willing a lot of Masters he can not be regarded as successful.

Weah was useless! He was not successful at all!

MBJ Logica!

MRbrownJAY: if thats your point, then why are you busting a vein when the court looked at the evidences and decided to award the money to the lady that this thread is all about? you should have accepted the ruling and be done with it.

Go and learn the unreasonable, bias and stewpid premise of the Western divorce laws.

MRbrownJAY: again, dont put words in my mouth, i said the wifey should get a % of the money that was made during the union (depending on that said wife 's contribution)......in the US it can be up to 50%, in other countries it is different ...... ok, since you are a bit stubborn on the issue, let me help you understand how it works.
marriage is a contract, therefore there are rules that have to be respected, just like any contract......for example: if you sign a contract with BT to have a line installed at your home for a set price, then no matter what happens, you must pay that fee. whether you like it or not. i dont make the rules, i just follow them.

marriage is the same, if you get married, then you become ONE and therefore everything that is accumulated during that period will be shared in some ways at the end.......depending on the contribution of each partner. some people prefer to write prenups, while other dont, but the facts remain that wives do contribute in other ways than monetary to a couple's well being. you may only see the MONETARY contribution, while there are much more than that. even if wifey simply fukcs her husband every night to sleep then thats her contribution to the wellbeing of that union....it may not be worth half to you but in the States it is. different countries different laws. take it or DONT GET MARRIED!

What BS?

Who are you trying to BS?

Her contirbution? Did you not say money made in a union is jointly made?

OK, tell me what contribution Zuckerbergs wife will make to his earnings from FB. If after 7 years of marriage, they decide to divorce and he has made another £900m from FB in those years they were ONE and wants to pay her £1m as divorce settlement, will you think that was OK and fair payment from the "union"?

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MRbrownJAY: bro, all the people you mentionned were good athletes (at one time) but will never be considered GREAT.......or on the same level as the likes of Carl lewis, Maurice green, Usain Bolt etc......they will quickly be forgotten because they never won the important races.

now dont twist my words as you always try to do, football is a TEAM SPORT, so if that said TEAM never won any of the important competition, like WC/EC/CL etc, then that team will NEVER be considered successful, even if they win all the charity shields in the world, lol!

I am not even going to the level of greatness.

Lets us even ignore the ungreatness of Goerge Weah for now.

They are, according to MBJ logic and common sense, unsuccessful atheltes.

They were useless in their sports.

MBJ Logica!

MRbrownJAY: bro, what are you smoking?! of course the whole issue is about the law....but every different court cases have different outcome DEPENDING ON THE WIFEY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE FAMILY WEALTH. how can you sit here and try to make us say that they should all be judged the same way (aka no money for the wife)? we were talking about ONE specific case, and now you want to use my point to judge EVERY DIVORCE in this world (without knowing what the wifey's input may be)?

again, you have issues against married women and therefore cannot make a sound contribution to this issue.

Who said they should be judged the same way? Me or you?

What I said was that judges should look at the contribution of each party in each case should be valuated and award each person to the T with what they contributed or missed opportunity cost.

You said it is money made in a union so anything made during that period should be shared 50-50.

YOU SAID Mark Zuckerberg's wife should get half of his earnings during their marriage. YOU!

MBJ Logic o!

y me: Sagamite, 'A word to the wise is enough'

I am a very intelligent man.

I know how to manage even the worst situations to my advantage.

y me: Hold on a second
Just because of that incident your 'friend' decided to say good bye to black girls just because he couldn't take rejection for the first time
pardon me to say but he is indeed not a man.
just one chat up with a black girl and the response he got was rather unpleasing he decided to opt for white girls? oh please that is the silliest of all excuses for one to decide black girls are not worth it
I agree the jamo's girl reaction was very degrading and unpleasant but that does not warrant him ruling out black girls out of his life
so does that mean if he applies for a job in the banking sector and gets rejected he then tends to lock up and conclude all banks are definitely going to reject his application?
porfavour!!!!

Stop being silly.

I only gave you one example, that does not mean that singular experience is all his experience with black women. Obviously there is more.

He has a dyck between his legs, in biology, they call such a person a man.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Well said.

@ Sagamite, I get what you're saying but like I mentioned earlier, a lot of this depends on WHAT you the guy are looking for, and WHERE you go looking for it. Obviously, I can't speak on behalf of every naija girl, much less a West Indian one (I'm yet to fully understand them too).

But having said that, I do believe it works both ways. If you're going to tar every most Nigerian girls over here as rude, self-centred, vain and materialistic, then you should also tender the equivalent judgement for the Nigerian guys that go after them.

Have you really asked yourself why they act the way they do? I for one can think of a reason. These girls probably view the Nigerian men that go after them as wanting one thing only: to use them as a means to an end... to get their papers. I personally know of a number of Nigerian ladies born and brought up here, who married our men. These guys act like butter won't melt in their mouths during the dating period and during the early part of the marriage. But what happens immediately their papers come through? All of a sudden, they see the girl as being too liberal, can't cook, doesn't really have Nigerian values, the list is endless.

It's happened time and time again, so based on that, don't you think that in itself should be enough reason for these ladies to be extra-cautious? Doesn't it make sense that they want to make sure that the guy has got what it takes to make it on his own, without using them as a meal-ticket? Afterall, who in their right minds would want to be used and discarded??

I think, this might also be one of the things at the back of the West-Indian girls minds too (just my opinion, like I said, I don't really know much about their mindsets). At the end of the day, each person should be judged for what they are and not pre-judged on some pre-conceived notion / generalisation of what is and what isn't.[/quote]You have a point there about paper guys.

I am Omo Mama Queen from birth, so I will never understand that mentality.

But people can still be classy when disapproving of suitors, no matter their suspicion. It is no excuse.

BoboYekini: lol saga, so true. all the black athletes can't be wrong.
smh @ "When you get a job, have a business or prospects, come back and try your luck"!

Hmm, my broda!

"When you get a job, have a business or prospects, come back and try your luck"!

DAMMMMMMMMMNNNN! That is cold!

It is so cold and memorable. We call it one of the Classics! Me and my friends still all say it as a chorus when we meet up at parties and BBQs with other people there. Even the buddy finds it very funny now.

Come to think of it, out of all of us 5 guys that were out that night, I am the only one that still dates black women. All the other guys have not dated black girls for at least 7 years.

I have so much stories like this but I can't put them here because we discuss them alot in real life and it might blow my anonymity. I was taking a big risk putting that one up because it is notorious!

cotton101: so sad that this topic how now been reduced to this - the amount of times in the past a nigerian guy has openly told me to my face while chatting me up or getting my number that "ur so nice, this is so unlike nigerian girls" "ur the best of both worlds - a white girl in black skin" i'm sorry but that is a f**king insult to me and shows a level of ignorance and lack of exposure to me - how can a few experiences with a number of black girls now tar all of us with the same brush. Gosh it was not that long ago we as a people where deemed sub-human and made slaves based on black people seen as inferior to all other races

Sweetie, it is not like if black men have a series of mid-night meetings to plan how to create stories and disparage black women.

This is the exposure they get with black women. What they say to you is not planned, it is instinctive based on experience and exposure.

If a lot of black men are saying exactly the same thing about the SAME group of people, then you should start thinking it is TRUE and PREVALENT, not some niche experience. It is not like if we black men are meeting the same small group of girls, while the good ones are blocked from us.

It is even more true when you hear white men and men from other races saying black women are scary.

Then you hear these same black women, instead of changing, saying "Oh, black men go for other women because they are scared of strong women". Fck me!

Ah, I see! This is just the normal attempt by women to use maligning words to shape moronic Real Men. "Scared"? That is somehow suppose to be challenging to our masculinity and then sit down and take shyt from them?

I was expecting and I am quite surprised no woman has come here in anger to try and malign me by saying I sound bitter. That it is because I have no game. Where is tpia? That, I guess, is suppose to challenge or insult my masculinity.

The act of some should not tarnish the reputation of all but we are in the real world. Most people are not intelligent. They like generalisation and lack critical thinking. More so, time is precious and people use it for things that give them the best odds. I take each person individually but if I see the traits of what I hate, I go hard in rebuttal. That is why I went hard on Cuddlemii recently. That is why I go extra hard on queensmith.

cotton101: I doubt any of us women would ever start saying to a nigerian guy "oh ur so nice, u don't do 419 like so many other nigerian guys" "o ur so different u don't have 10 baby mamas scattered around the place" "o u must be a wife beater since its the norm with african men"

If most men start doing bad to you, you WOULD!

If most men start impregnating and running and abandoning you, you would.

Lets just say, for black women, the chicken is coming home to roast. It would make sense to put the fire out now but if majority are not even willing to accept and acknowledge the need for change, I don't see change happening.

Result will be that a large fraction of successful and eligible black men (with choices) will keep on ending up with non-black women and black women will continue to moan.

cotton101: Sagamite - u are quite an intelligent man and I like to think these postings are just online rants but it saddens me as a mother to a black girl that our men think still think like this - it has so many other far reaching consequences that if you think about it properly u can begin to see why black women are really seen as the bottom of the human/racial food chain.

maybe i'm not making sense and ur confidence is slightly sexy (my fiance should not see this o!) but honestly try to say the black women u have come across - and like i said stop chatting up london girls

I take extreme pleasure, the finest pleasure, vintage pleasure to be the one saying this about black women and Naija women especially. I love being right!

I am a strong advocate for justice, fairness and objectivity. I love people to face the appropriate consequences of their actions. That is why you see me raining curses on people like Marriam Babangida when she died, not the moronic Naija "You respect the dead".

It made me laugh when someone [coughs] thought they used subjectivity to "corner me".

www.nairaland.com/986088/grown-up-kids-kick-father-out/3#11391698
www.nairaland.com/986088/grown-up-kids-kick-father-out/6

If my daughter is an arse, let her be rewarded like she deserves.

If my daughter is an angel, let her be rewarded like she deserves.

I am the God (on this Earth o) of Objectivity and Logic.

Of course, you are right, my confidence is sexy. I am a sexy guy. Mo sexy baje baje. stillwater, tell them. Please confirm this. Tell them you see me as the sexiest man alive.

JallowBah: 3: It depends what you say is rude. Up north we seem rude for people down south, so when I guy approach me, I just say no, and smile. If he continue with hey baby blablabla, I might seem rude when telling him no again, yes. Where I am from this is a NICE way of rejecting someone, but down in the capital..its different.

9: I cancelled a date with a guy because I understood after texting etc that it would not work with us, he was not my type. Really a sweetheart, but the connection was not there, and he REALLY liked me. I didnt wanted to e rude to him, so I cancelled and said I was sorry, but did not tell him the real reason until a few days later.

Other than that: Nope.

When it comes to mens feelings, I dont wish to play.

Obviously what you put there are not rude.

That said, I don't believe you.

I struggle to believe a black women, more so a Naija one, has always been polite, fair and truthful to men. Even virtually all white woman cannot achieve that. Women are built selfishly. They do not know what equality and fairness is. It is "Me, me, me, me, me"!

You will be one in a 100 million if you are telling the truth but I don't believe it.

When I say share price falling, I did not mean their wealth, I meant their looks.

Majority of women are at their aesthetic pick between the ages of 17 to about 25.

Note: That is majority, some might break that rule. Secondly that does not mean when they are over 25, they become look-wise like witches with leprosy. Nah, they are just not at their peak, they might still be hot.

Now unlike men, women attract partners based on two core things: their looks and their personality. The former is by far the most dominant, the latter is important too though.

I am yet to see a woman that is not good looking that attracts genuine mating partners because she is talented at singing, business, running etc. If she is not good looking, most men will just clap and appreciate her talent but not be turned on.

Now Usain Bolt is not the most handsome man one can see but I can guarantee you at the moment, he is the most sexy man in London. Majority of women would love to split for him. If he was not a fast runner but replenishes the shelf stock at night for Tescos, he would stuggle to find an attractive girlfriend despite his height.

So when Naija girls are at their peak they lack the personality part of attraction. They see no problem with this because there are many desperate niggas in London that will take their shyt. When these girls start aging and the looks start declining, they start trying to develop personalities that they should have developed long ago. Some would struggle to attract partners because some of their bad personality traits is well ingrained and a proclivity that they do instinctively and they do not even know they are doing because they have never got anyone giving them feedback as we live in a cultural setting that tells women they can behave as they wish, and men are discouraged from saying anything negative about women because it is not gentlemanly or metrosexual. And most of these mugu London men are enthusiastic about this philosophy, they are hungry to get a black belt certificate from women for being top Real Men.

Let me give you a hint of the rudeness of black girls in London.

When we were back in Uni, me and my buddies went out for a night of clubbing, one of my buddies saw some nice black chic that Kai he had to make a move for.

Okay, this girl was Jamo, not Naija. Homeboy approached her and went to say hi. As usual you know the disparaging, mean stare most young black girls are somehow raised to give. She looked at him up and down like shyt and continued staring into space. Homeboy continued and tried to be nice. He said something to her and she replied and looked away, then he left her. I still remember his chat up style categorisation I did back then. His style was complete sweet complimentary talking with a soft voice. We all have different styles.

When he came back, we asked him what happened. He said he said hi and was trying to get to know her. When she was not responsive (looking mean) he told her that he really felt she was attractive and he couldn't miss the opportunity of trying to get to know her. She then turned to him and said meanly: "When you get a job, have a business or prospects, come back and try your luck"!

Damn! That was cold. I thought they would have to call an ambulance to get me to emergency because we were bursting our bellies with laughter.

That is what the guy got for trying to chat up a black girl. He sucked it up and we went to take our night buses home. No money for car back then.

The guy now wears a suit and has a good job. He has been with a white girl for years now. I wonder what this Jamo girl is up to now. She would probably see him in suit with a white woman on his arm and start insulting him for not sticking with "sisters".

I understand why footballers go for white girls.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Sorry, no.[/quote]Yeah, I guessed as much.

Most likely they are within the 27-35 age range.

Look, I don't know your friends. As far as I am concerned, they might have personalities close to Nayah at one end of the spectrum, or they might have personalities close to queensmith at the other end.

But if I was to judge based on general black women, most likely they were like typical Naija rude girls when they were younger and at their aesthetical peak. They were most likely rude to men, have their head up their arse, say men are annoying and "disturbing" them when they are approached (that is why they are justified to be rude). Then, they would probably have said they are looking for bad boys that are rich, nice 6-pack physique, 6ft2+, dark and handsome. And any man falling short is discarded as not in their league or not worthy to chat them up.

Then when they are getting older and the looks are disappearing, all of a sudden they know how to be polite a little when they see a guy with potential/prospects because they have become ATM women (Anxious To Marry), and then start whining how "I am a nice, intelligent woman, how come men don't want to commit to me". They want a guy with potential to come and take the fading goods.

To me, this is akin to a trader that dominates a market with his special medicinal fruits that other traders can not provide. This trader is now very rude to his customers and greedy when pricing. He does not care about them queueing up for hours to buy his stuff. Telling the general customers to fck off if they do not like it and leave his store. He is only nice to the aristocracy and royalty who are ready to pay him loads. The general customers buy because he is the only provider and it is the only fast and good cure to their ailment.

Then one day, some Chinese traders enter the market and are able to source and bring this medicinal fruit to the customers at cheap prices. They understand customer service and give low prices. Everyone flocks to them. Then the local trader tries to reduce his price and wants to start being nice to customers because he has stock that would soon degrade and perish if he does not sell it soon. He then starts whining that why are customers buying from foreigners over one of their own local sons.

This was the analogy I gave to a close friend recently when I was at Liverpool. Naija girls need to be nice when they are at the top or peak value. Not when the share price is falling.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Is age an issue here?

You obviously can't stand the average teenage / early twenty-something-ish dimwit, self obsessed with er...Brazilian weave, etc

Not that I've confirmed their ages or anything, but you really can't eat your cake & have it. Or can you?? [/quote]Answer the question and I will clarify.

Dis Guy: Nigerians are hard to please and mostly ignorant

this is not football, we lost to USA kini big deal, were you guys expecting nigerian college players to thrash professional players within 2 months of getting together?

Best of luck to the players jare, You qualified againt all odd, Angola, Morrocco and top African BB teams didn't make it

Some of these halfwits don't realise the loss was akin to the Brazil team of 2002 with talents like the 3Rs (Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho), Cafu, R. Carlos etc beating a Mali WC debutant team 13 goals to 4, with Ronaldo (Carmelo) being on utter fire that day.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Ah! I think I just might have found out why Oga Sagamite is so angry with Naija girls!!

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils

Sagamite, pls confirm



** quickly dashes out of this thread! [/quote]Yep, Naija girls are more guilty on average of most of those than women of other regions.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]^^ So, having said that, why not give these "bad, classless" UK Nigerian girls a wide berth? Why d'you keep going back for more??[/quote]Obviously that is what I do. I am poor at it though because my closest friends have not dated black girls for over 10 years and say they will never again. They have stuck to it very well.

https://www.nairaland.com/826849/desperate-find-husbandis-it-normal/1#9784967

I still bump into a few because I like my Naija circle of friends.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Personally, I think you need to decide what exactly it is you want from these girls. If for example, you're looking for someone to settle with, "marriage material" kind of girl, don't you think clubs 'n roadsides are the very wrong place to look? ( i.e for your home girl).

If on the other hand, what you're after is a bit of "tumble & fun", then by all means SOHO & clubs are the joints to seek them out.[/quote]What is wrong with girls in clubs or on the road? Women that want to marry don't go to clubs anymore? They don't use roads?

Where are the right places to go in case, god forbid, I want to marry?

Come on, Efe, lets stop giving excuses.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]I do have extremely well mannered, poised, financially independent single friends who are nothing like what you've described so far. And they hold their own when it comes to discussing intelligently. But they have to anyway, based on the nature of work they do. Sagamite, they are BRAINY too...[/quote]How old are they on average? Give me their age range.

JallowBah: Except for white lies about him looking nice in a shirt I dont lie, or how much the dress I bought REALLY cost; no
When it comes to important things, like feelings for another person, I do not lie. But I guess you do, since you give the impression of it being perfectly normal.

I have NEVER acted like I had feelings for a man just to get something from him. Never.

So you want to tell me you have never done any of the following:

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils

cotton101: Sagamite - if you have a preconceived view of Nigerian women don't you think when you do interact with them you will be looking for those things. Its like how some men say black girls will only go out with a guy with money but the last time I checked the girls stalking footballers and sleeping with as many as they can in a month don't happen to be black. some of nigerian women have not been brought up to worship money and follow the first man that drops an iphone or brazillian weave.

As for being classless - u need to broaden ur horizons and maybe stop going out with London based nigerian girls (even I have to admit some of them can be rude and scary )

As per the topic I think fundamentally when a child knows its loved the confidence will follow - I see it with my daughter and to be honest I think even at her young age i think she thinks she is the best thing since sliced bread (my bad - she is lol!)

So what if I look for it?

I have some telepathic powers that make them confirm it?

Look, lets not give excuses!

The critical first path to change is to acknowledge there is a need for change, not start giving excuses.

The reason it is other women that sleep with footballers is because the footballers have already developed hate for black girls based on their experiences before their success. Not because the black girls don't want to. The men now have choices and they choose the ones they like, not the one they hate.

As I said a few weeks ago, if I was a successful footballer, most likely I would stick completely to white chics too.

https://www.nairaland.com/985116/white-boyfriends-better-than-black/11#11380765

[quote author=Efemena_xy]@ Sagamite: you know, you've said quite a lot without really saying anything.

Methinks there is more to this than meets the eye. So come on, spill the beans & give us an example of what really happened.

Afterall, there's no smoke without a fire somewhere, as the saying goes... [/quote]You know I said everything, cut the BS! Na me you wan dey use sense for.

Look, it is not all their fault. It is the fault of the ball-less black men we have in the UK.

We have so many "Real Men" that are so hungry to show they are the ones that respect women the most so as to get a pat on the back. That is what is making these women hard to change.

When men like us tell them to fck off, there is one mugu Real Man that is willing to chop her shyt and massage her ego. Just too many Real Men that would.

I don't respect people that don't respect me. If they mess up, I put them back to their place.

stillwater: Sagamite, hear ye, hear ye.

But I have to admit, most Nigerian guys in the UK complain all the time though about Nigerian girls in the UK.

[Dust my shoulders off] Classy man here. Ask the non-Naija girls.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Na wa o!

Sagamite, you break my heart, re: Nigerian girls in the UK...

We aren't all like that na! Okay, I know you said "not all" but even then, that was really venomous from you.

Exactly what sort of places do you find those girls anyway? Libraries? Churches? Voluntary aid organizations? Family theme parks / recreational centers?

And also, if you don't mind my asking (abeg don't bite my head off o!)...have you considered it just might be something to do with your approach that ticks them off? [/quote]University, clubs, roads, parks etc.

It could not possibly have anything to do with my approach because it is exactly the same approach I use for women from other geographies and they are delightful to interact with whether one scores or not. Something is wrong with the Naija women then.

dayokanu: This one is right because I think America is one of the best places to be a blackman and have a job

The ratio of eligible women to men in some areas might be 10:1 .

E.g Atlanta

That is why I have always hated you on NL.

I am just jealous of your life.

Ah! Atlanta! 20 black babes to one black man!

Heaven!

https://www.nairaland.com/554294/black-girls-america-it-true/1#7185101

MRbrownJAY: whatever rocks your boat, but i doubt you should marry her then (if what she brings to your life is just the same as what any BS gf would).

who said it was? just because it is for some, does NOT mean we have to generalize the issue. people are different and therefore every r/ship are different. you need to look at the individuals at hand before you can say that.

good for you but that is not what happens to EVERYBODY, dont take YOUR ppoints as a FACT for EVERYBODY out there!

if her contribution to your life is the direct reason why you became succesful then she deserve at least 30% IMHO. but hey, to each their own!

bwaaah! you are funny, to say the least!!!!
if Messi marries today, he would have to pay 50% of the earning that he made during that union BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW in the US, not because MBJ said so...... i am just following the law and telling you that if you dont like it then you shouldnt get married, et voila!
dont mix apples with oranges: the guy in this matter was A) poor when he got married B) you have no clue how involved the wife was in the family biz and C) he thinks that she only deserves 1% of the family wealth......how can you compare this with Messi is quite disturbing.

now if a man has wealth and get married, then whatever he generates after the day of marriage will be split, due to the fact that they got married, thats the damn law, why you want to make it like it is what MBJ said?! if you dont like the law then go picket around the court instead of giving me grief on the issue because i believe the law to be fair.

Ehn!!! MB-to-the-mufcking-J, you are repudiating your own logical reasoning and common sense now?

So you mean all your argument so far now is based on Zombie follow-follow, not your own reasoning of the issues?

Ah! O ba ti sor (You for don say before). You just make us waste time when all you were doing is regurgitating the law. We all thought it was your common sense.

[size=4pt]Which it was! [/size]

Like if we don't know the law and need you to tell us what it is.

sweetcocoa: Sagamite,hope you won't marry a Nigerian lady o?

Deep down, I hope not based on what is on offer.

I can get a good bargain elsewhere.

dayokanu: Assuming Messi on his own right now makes 20m a yr, When he is married would the wife make his earnings increase to 40m?

Cos If he is still earning 20m, Then how has the wife contributed to the 20m he was already earning even before he met her?

Is it by the wife getting a lifetime executive seat at Nou camp wearing bikini and sipping champaign while Messi is enduring tackles, kicks, sprinting like a mad man, getting elbows to the head, kicks to the groin.

LOL

You are not logical, shut up!

MBJ correct him!

Let him see the liggggggght!

MRbrownJAY: read my above answer to understand clearly what i was on about.....but if you have comprehension issues, let me make it easier for you:
ANYONE WHO HASNT WON A GRAND SLAM TITLE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED A SUCCESSFUL TENNIS PLAYER, even if he wins every other tournament on the ATP tour and becomes #1.

Amazing logic from MBJ Logica!

Any player that has never won WC or Champions league cannot be considered a successful football player.

Any athlete that has never won Olympic Gold is not a successful athlete.

Gabriel Batistuta, George Weah, Gheorghe Hagi, Tyson Gay, Ato Boldon and Frankie Fredericks are all unsucccessful people in their sports.

[Sagamu starts screaming and waking up his neighbours]

LOGIC!

LOGIC!

LOGIC!

I HAVE FOUND LOGIC!

ALL OF YOU COME AND SEE LOGIC O!

Kai, Usian Bolt's girlfriend is the one that is making him run well tonight. Abi MBJ?

Not:

- His God-given personality and brains.
- His hardwork.
- His preparation through the sports techniques he learnt.
- The nurturing and mentorship his parents gave him.

There is wife hidden somewhere that is making him a better man.

[Chants] MBJ! MBJ! MBJ! MBJ! MBJ! ............

MRbrownJAY: bro, whether this woman turns you into a superstar or not, you should understand that she will make you a better man........ if not, then there is NO REASON under the sun that you should marry that lady.

She would make me a better man is conjectual rubbish.

She would make me happy might sound more reasonable.

That said, she making me happy or a better man is not the factor that would make me successful.

If she is not there, I WILL overwhelmingly most likely still be successful.

What will make me successful is:

- My God-given superb personality and brains.
- The hardwork I put in while 419 boys were pulling all those figure 8 young girls in my youth while I was destroying Maths for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
- My preparation through the education my parents paid for and supported me through.
- The nurturing and mentorship of my parents gave him.
- The networks and connections I make.

Just like virtually all the great and successful men in history.

All that said, she making me happy or a better man WILL NEVER make her warrant taking 50% of my money except she contributed it through work of equivalent value.

Our common sense is different.

MRbrownJAY: and her contribution during that union is down to WHEN THEY ARE MARRIED, and about what money was made during their marriage......not the wealth that was brought into this union, which was earned BEFOREHAND.

Yes now!

According to MBJ common sense and logic, if Messi marries today, it is his wife's contribution that is amounting to 50% of his earnings from then on because it is made in a "union".

If he had not married her, he would only had made 50% of what he is making. She is contributing to the wealth.

MBJ LOGICA!!!

WAPA!

OGA, na you o!

Yorisb: U dey craze. I nearly fall from Okada LMAO.

Now I know what makes successful men successful now.

Now I know what I need to be successful.

Thanks to the logical reasoning and common sense of MBJ.

y me: Sagamite you need deliverance
No2 and 4 got me cracking up so bad
seriously you leave me no choice than to conclude you have been hurt emotionally by Nigerian ladies countless times

Na, I am not hurt emotionally. I just don't let people put me down. Remember, I am Sagamite.

As for my deliverance, what do you want me to say?

I am a sinner!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zirtzDl2RH0

y me: Please park your load and go
The UK chics won't miss you at all

I dey go!

y me: sooooooo whats the bitter hype all about then if you know not all Nigerian ladies are classless and rude?

No 1, I never said all.

No 2, it might be law of demands. In Yankee, black men are normally guests in jails so you have to hone your skills to fight for the few black men with prospects.

No 3, it is a small sample pool.

No 4, it might be holiday blues. Maybe when you are both local, dem fit turn to normal Naija chics.

[quote author=*Ileke-IdI]We love you too [/quote]Thank you, jor!

E ma wo awon babes.

I will soon move over paa paa just because of the classier babes.